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Old 01-31-2010, 11:39 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Jetpack, thank you for posting this thread. You have made me look at my personal feelings towards the rich, it's been quite fun and eye opening! So I appreciate your post! Thank you!
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:53 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I breifly asked myself, "What do I think about rich people?" and I got that I thought that they were kind of high-and-mighty, didn't want to come down from their clouds to connect with lesser mortals.

Then I asked myself again, changing the words this time, "How do I feel about rich people?" and felt a sort of pain in my back. Then I felt like I had the wind blown out of me, like I was in a race and saw other people flying past, too fast for me, and felt weak and hopeless.

Thanks for inspiring this introspection, I'm sure it's been helpful. I command these feelings to resolve themselves with the help of higher perspective and become aligned with Truth now - may my subconscious work out a more effective and accurate way of perceiving reality and influencing my actions. I don't want to think too hard right now as it's late, but may my subconscious work this out as I sleep, perhaps through dreams, and bring me answers in the morning - for the highest good of all, in a healthy and natural way, to empower me to achieve my goal for financial independence and abundance, of course

I'm working on a blog post about money right now, with any luck it'll be up tommorrow, or soon anyway

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Old 02-01-2010, 12:17 AM   #63 (permalink)
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I love rich people, every thing about them. Especially their great way of spending so much money on everyday frivolous items.

Haven't read all the thread but thought I would say.

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Old 08-25-2010, 09:23 PM   #64 (permalink)
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During my teen years, my parents became pretty successful which pretty much boosted us into upper middle class. You might think, wow, your life must be so much more wonderful now. Not really.. I was just as happy when we were solidly in the middle class than now when we have a big house with a fancy car.

In my parent's process of becoming richer, I've got to be around a lot of other kids who are rich. Again, you'd probably think they have the most wonderful lives. Indeed, they do get a lot of what they want but if you look deeper inside, you find that a lot of them are lost. They have the money and potential to be very successful, but they just end up using their money to party and buying drugs. There's no motivation to do anything with their lives because they've already experienced it all before. Obviously, this is a generalization and not all rich kids are like that, but it really just shows that being rich doesn't make you a better person than anyone else.

I'm probably not quite anti-materialistic, but I do act in a way that shows I don't put much of an emphasis on money. I assume that most of the hatred against rich people stems from jealousy. Understandable, but from my experience, I'm pretty indifferent about it.

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Old 08-25-2010, 09:39 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I have found that if someone is still harbouring feelings of resentment toward rich people and somehow they get rich, then they do act how they perceive rich people to be. They also try to get rid of their money as quickly as possible by making foolish mistakes with their money. My sister married a man who was in law school. She stayed with him through thick and thin and he eventually started his own law firm and started making huge money. Finally, the marriage broke down and they got a divorce. She got a good settlement, but just to add, he cheated her out of millions by hiding money off-shore. She was resentful already of people with money, then when she found out he had cheated her she became angry and hateful, complaining all the time. But she never did much to get the money that was rightfully hers. Instead she started making increasingly bizarre choices like selling off her property and investments and spending the money from that. She started drinking excessively. An interesting but sad thing I noticed was that the entire time she felt an unstoppable urge to sell everything because she was 'broke'. Broke is a relative term, but that's all she talked about. Perhaps she wanted to purge everything she had gained from the marriage. Maybe he threatened to destroy her so she thought she'd beat him to it. Yeah, her lawyers sucked. I don't know what has become of her. She doesn't speak to me anymore because according to her I was to blame for many of her mistakes! I would imagine she is back to where she started when she met him.
I started hating her mostly because she got everything I wanted. If I wanted a new apartment she would go out and get 3 for herself! If my daughter wanted a toy but I couldn't afford it, she would go out and buy it for her own daughter and have her show if off to us. But this comes from my aunt and uncle. My uncle was my father's half brother. He has worked his way up at a big company since he was 16. By the time he was about to retire he was VP of sales. He was a millionaire, but he never shared it with my dad. He had lost his only child to a motorcycle accident and was jealous of my father for having us. He was very critical of us. I just remember going to their mansion when I was very young and crying; wondering why we couldn't have such a big house. I think my sister identified more with them. She observed them and held their character in too hish-esteem. So when she became rich she emmulated them in every single way. The spending part comes from my father's mother who was wealthy but lost everything when she married my uncle's (the rich guy) father. My sister started spending when she had more to do with my parents and less with others in the family. It was almost like they convinced her to spend it and convinced her she was broke (because that's all they knew), even though her bank statements said otherwise.
I know that there are times in our lives when we can 'make or break' it. I look back and I realise that I may have sabatoged myself when it came to wealth. Of course one can't tell the future and they can't tell whether it was being too safe or being wise. I have started concentrating on working through my feelings of jealousy and resentment towards rich people. I realise that if I don't I will never be able to join their ranks. So far though, I haven't been able to find anyone who is both rich and self-aware, but I think I'd be in a totally different situation if I had by now.

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Old 08-26-2010, 12:07 AM   #66 (permalink)
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I know this thread is ages old, but I would like to say that I grew up with a trust fund, so I don't hate rich people! I always worked for a living, however, and gave to others. My dad has always had means but he does not spend conspicuously. In fact, most people who meet him would probably not have any idea how wealthy he is. He is also socially progressive, and very interested in helping the impoverished.
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:08 AM   #67 (permalink)
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No, why would I hate someone based on how much money they have? It's much better to hate others based on what they did to make their money.
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:32 AM   #68 (permalink)
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No i don't hate rich people. I know a multi-millionaire (wow come to think of it i know more than one ) and quite truly they live normal lives and they work. They're no different than you or me...
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:34 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Especially their great way of spending so much money on everyday frivolous items.
That is a generalisation. I have a multi-millionaire in my family. He works hard, raises four sons with his wife, and i have never seen luxurious items at their place. Just sayin'...
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:45 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I try not to hate anyone, but I do have a serious dislike of stupid people.

I've known a few millionaires. Some of them are super nice, honest, have worked hard, and deserve every penny they've made. I've also known a couple of millionaires who got most of their money from cheating people and screwing people over.

You should never generalize any group of people and assume that they are all good or all bad. Even some of the stupid people out there mean well....
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To many people in this world we are considered rich. When I see documentaries on 'poor' people I wonder how they feel about the Western World 'over there'. Are they resentful of us or are they not even aware of what they could have? How would I feel if upon talking with them I find that they are resentful? Would I think less of them? Would I think that THAT was the reason why they are poor? Would I feel guilty? Perhaps I would learn something from them.

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Old 08-26-2010, 04:05 AM   #72 (permalink)
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At worst I ENVY successful people, but later in life, I really wanted to find out about them. I lived most of my life with NO success or money awareness. My life turned out SO different from my early peers. I am kind of like a "voyeur" of successful people, because I find them SO different than me with regards to their natural drives and interests, so I like to read about them. There are a lot of rich people I wouldn't want to be, because they have to deal with problems I have no resources for. Just seeing a rich man doesn't bug me, but seeing ANY man with a woman I consider "hot" makes me very envious. It almost makes me feel like stalking them.
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Just seeing a rich man doesn't bug me, but seeing ANY man with a woman I consider "hot" makes me very envious. It almost makes me feel like stalking them.
Old Dead Wood: Just curious, are you a man or a woman?
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:51 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Lets not generalise that rich people are bad...

They work hard to be where they are today...

Anyone dont want to be rich? Do i want to be rich?

I think i can solve many problems if i am richer, but i think i will encounter bigger problems that cant be solved with money later on...

I suppose i should be content with what i have now...
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Old 08-28-2010, 05:16 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Of course, if you look down upon the rich you can't manifest that state. That makes perfect sense to me. But this post brings up an interesting dichotomy to me. . . it seems false and silly to me. I neither want to be rich, nor poor, and I don't hate either group, but I don't have "good" feelings about either group (in general) either or see it as a life I want to lead.

I don't hate all rich people, but I certainly do disagree with how many of them made their money/what they do with their money/how my country sorts money issues/how the world views money and materialism sometimes. That said, I don't try to manifest loads of money. I don't really try to manifest within what I'd consider 'materialism.' I like only the freedom of having enough money (and then some) for what I need, and that includes the freedom of not needing many big, fancy things. Don't get me wrong---I like lots of things I can do with money, and I get enough money to do them, generally, like travel to crazy places, donate money to charities, or even buy a fantastic pair of shoes. Or live without working for months at a time, if I want. But back when I actually cared about money, I manifested money but not the things I actually wanted: the freedom and experiences, because I was so tightly tied to money.

That's why the whole million dollar manifesting thing doesn't work for me. I don't really want a million dollars, and I know it. I'm not saying I'd turn it down, but I don't 'vibrate' upon the idea of it. It doesn't do much for me. I don't judge anyone who does want money necessarily. I suppose some people want money for what they want, some for freedom, some to keep score. . . it's all different, and I don't really think any of it is 'wrong' in a broader sense, though some are less compatible with my earthly sensibilities. But those sensibilities don't make me unhappy. . . so far as I can tell. (Other things do, and I'm working on those.) I do agree it's a HUGE problem if you feel negatively about the thing you claim to want. That's just silly and causes needless cognitive dissonance that throws muck at everything. But I only use my negativity -- i.e. "He made his money by cheating working people, and I disagree with that" -- to discern between what I want to experience (identifying I want neither cheating others, nor being cheated can be the first step in saying what I DO want sometimes) and what I don't. Then, I try to ignore what I don't as best I can. This is where I usually fail, when I fail, personally.

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That's why the whole million dollar manifesting thing doesn't work for me. I don't really want a million dollars, and I know it. I'm not saying I'd turn it down, but I don't 'vibrate' upon the idea of it.
same thing... obviously i would not turn down one million, because repaying the house in one go would be great . But in terms of real luxury... meh. If i lived in luxury then died suddenly, all of that would be left on earth behind so what is point?
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