Think without words!

[MacFly]

Have you ever noticed that when the voice in your head talks, the muscles in your throat, mouth and tongue are actually moving? I realized it on myself, and I was curious if I could think without translating it into words, and making the voice in my head talk. The things I noticed are incredible. When I think without words, I can think of anything without any doubt arising. And as I experienced, this way of thinking doesn't really pulls me out the present moment. I don't feel like I'm not "here". Try it yourself!

[Strem2]

How are you thinking? Are you thinking in pictures?

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by Strem2

How are you thinking? Are you thinking in pictures?

No, they are just impressions or something. The thing that every thought is before it's translated into words in the head.

[Strem2]

Originally Posted by MacFly

No, they are just impressions or something. The thing that every thought is before it's translated into words in the head.

MacFly, I think that's your unconscious! Your unconscious sends directions to your body to get up, for example, before your conscious brain thinks, "Oh, I'm going to get up now."

This is the reason that a batter can hit a pitch 30% of the time. If he had to wait for his conscious brain the ball would be in the catcher's hand every time before he swung....

I'm going to work on that too. Thanks!

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by Strem2

MacFly, I think that's your unconscious! Your unconscious sends directions to your body to get up, for example, before your conscious brain thinks, "Oh, I'm going to get up now."

yeah I talk about exactly that. it's so much better if you stop at that level, and don't let yourself lose in words.

[Jack]

I think it may be like animal thinking.You know,they don't think in words but they think(at least they seem to think).And they're at (maybe always or most of time) present moment I think.

[Lil Chris]

I wonder if that's what "The Science of Getting Rich" means when it says, if you think in this certain way... Perhaps that is what you are describing here... It also says, Man can form things in his thought, and, by impressing his thought upon formless substance, can cause the thing he thinks about to be created.... It's a really good book.

I've made it available at one of my sites, Intelligent Substance

Look under the categories in the left column on the right side

[Eric Roosevelt]

Allowing your subconscious to process words can actually help you think faster. This is basically what happens when you do speed reading. People who can read fast simply don't have time to vocalize what they're reading in their head.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by Jack

I think it may be like animal thinking.You know,they don't think in words but they think(at least they seem to think).And they're at (maybe always or most of time) present moment I think.

yeah i haven't even thought about it from that perspective!

and I also noticed the speed thing. if you don't create words, you think much faster.

[viking4525]

Originally Posted by MacFly

Have you ever noticed that when the voice in your head talks, the muscles in your throat, mouth and tongue are actually moving? I realized it on myself, and I was curious if I could think without translating it into words, and making the voice in my head talk. The things I noticed are incredible. When I think without words, I can think of anything without any doubt arising. And as I experienced, this way of thinking doesn't really pulls me out the present moment. I don't feel like I'm not "here". Try it yourself!

Mcfly - what you are touching on I have seen called "Non Verbal Communication". I came across that as a method of communication when I was trying out the Hemi Synch brainwave courses. I won't go into WHY this is potentially useful according to the course and course books as I never had personal experience of having to communicate myself.

However its useful for translating your dreams with symbolism as you get used to the NVC.

[PerDev]

Is this similar to meditation ?

Originally Posted by MacFly

Have you ever noticed that when the voice in your head talks, the muscles in your throat, mouth and tongue are actually moving? I realized it on myself, and I was curious if I could think without translating it into words, and making the voice in my head talk. The things I noticed are incredible. When I think without words, I can think of anything without any doubt arising. And as I experienced, this way of thinking doesn't really pulls me out the present moment. I don't feel like I'm not "here". Try it yourself!

[newmark]

I think this is a kind of intuitive thinking coming from the unconscious, but made conscious.

I think it differs from the animal thought, which I certainly believe takes place, in that we can begin to bring it into our consciousness.

[gigij]

Thinking without words is the way I think too. I believe that different people just think differently - some are visual, aural, etc. Some think in more like 'feelings' - like you just 'know' what you are thinking without seeing anything or hearing words. I dunno - I've always had a hard time describing it.

[mikethedrummer44]

Originally Posted by Eric Roosevelt

Allowing your subconscious to process words can actually help you think faster. This is basically what happens when you do speed reading. People who can read fast simply don't have time to vocalize what they're reading in their head.

Beat me to it on the speed reading part. A helpful excessive to use if you want to start thinking without words is to count up to 10 with your vocal cords. Basically picture something in your head, and while you're doing that make your vocal cord muscles say 1,2,3,4,etc. This occupies them so that your thoughts aren't distracted.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by PerDev

Is this similar to meditation ?

mmm you can call it that but not the best word. it's another way of using your mind. if I want to put out an intention, with words like "I'll have a brand new car", another bunch of word comes with doubt "you don't have money, this is just the stupid LoA which doesn't work".

but if I put this intention out without words, no doubt can come. I didn't say anything, therefore my logical mind can't doubt it.

[PerDev]

Intersting, Will try once..

Originally Posted by MacFly

mmm you can call it that but not the best word. it's another way of using your mind. if I want to put out an intention, with words like "I'll have a brand new car", another bunch of word comes with doubt "you don't have money, this is just the stupid LoA which doesn't work".

but if I put this intention out without words, no doubt can come. I didn't say anything, therefore my logical mind can't doubt it.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by PerDev

Intersting, Will try once..

Joseph Murphy (who is really slept on here) also writes about this thing.

This is how he explains a line in the Holy Bible

"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven."

He says the mentioned "two" are your conscious and subconscious mind. And when the two aren't in conflict, it'll manifest.

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by MacFly

Joseph Murphy (who is really slept on here) also writes about this thing.

This is how he explains a line in the Holy Bible

"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven."

He says the mentioned "two" are your conscious and subconscious mind. And when the two aren't in conflict, it'll manifest.

This is interesting to me... Can you site a reference for this.

If this is true, what do you think is involved with having the two not be in conflict.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by Lil Chris

This is interesting to me... Can you site a reference for this.

If this is true, what do you think is involved with having the two not be in conflict.

Reduce your thought processes, learn to live with less thought, and drop your beliefs. Not that hard. Learn to kill doubts. Doesn't matter how you do it just give up the habit of doubting, and "logically" analyzing everything.

Try this "Remove a Limiting Belief in About 20 Minutes"! REAL EFFECTIVE!

If you send me a PM with your email I can send you that book in PDF.

[Lil Chris]

PM sent...

Thanks

[Landi Star]

This is a favorite “thinking”-mode of mine! (I also think of it as “not-thinking”).

As mentioned before, it’s about not vocalizing words in the head, as when you learn to speed-read and take in chunks of words as whole concepts or images.

I also experience it as a more “kinesthetic” or “sensing” type of thinking… ie, being more in sensory awareness rather than in the “chatty” head.

I think we all know this well in sex, for example, when sensations take over… or when totally involved in something that doesn’t involve the rational mind.

Some people may have a natural predisposition or preference for different thinking modes (as in “kinesthetic thinkers” and “visual thinkers”). It is said that Einstein was high on kinesthetic thinking.

Certainly it is not necessary to sub-vocalize words in order to function or cognize things!
People who are deaf from birth and have never heard the sound of words are not likely to vocalize words in their heads! They tend to be more “visual” (and perhaps also “kinesthetic”) thinkers and when they communicate they translate concepts directly into sign language, and they understand the sign language of another person without inner vocalization of words.

I learned sign language (American), and though it took me years of study and practice, it has been enriching to learn this alternate form of communicating and thinking.
Years of meditation and non-verbal practices have also helped me to more easily access modes of “thinking” or awareness which don’t involve head-vocalizing.

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Ultimately, it doesn’t matter much whether you vocalize words or not in your thinking (though learning to get quiet inside is a very valuable thing!).
The important thing is to NOT be “run” by your thinking, ie, to be “in charge” (or “at cause”) in your mind and life. In other words, to NOT be at the effect of events, or of your thinking (and thus NOT go into automatic reactions… like when something “negative” happens and you automatically go into a downward spiral of negative thinking, ruining your day!).

Being in charge (in your mind) also means that you can choose when to think and when to not-think.
And this greatly enhances your ability to manifest!
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[Acting Like Godot]

You can think without words, and even without pictures.

Actually we do it all the time, except that most of us don't realise it. For example, as you cook a meal; drive a car or play an arcade game, you are constantly making a series of complex decisions.

Yet there usually isn't enough time to think in words.

[Ravmar]

Actually I think without words all the time. Half the time when I'm writing, I'm trying just to translate my thoughts into English. For instance, as a programmer, I had direct experience with the problem of "feature creep" long before I knew that's what it was called. It actually surprises me that thinking without words seems unfamiliar to so many people.

[mysterious]

Up until recently that is the only way I knew how to think because I'm autistic. I remember being surprised when I realized that people used words to think. The sad thing is that the more social I become, the more words I use in my thoughts, and I don't like thinking like this. I used to be way more productive before.

[bluedragon]

I can think very effectively without words. But I don't do it so often. I have a strange feeling that if I think something without using words, it's as if it never happened. Or if I do something without yapping in my head, it's as if that never happened But thinking without words is what you do in stressful situations or when you are in a hurry. You don't just react, because in our modern world, pure instinct isn't always the best choice. You have to make logical decisions based on the objects around you and the way our modern cities function. So we do make rational decisions, on a conscious level, but without words. You see a bus, and you think fast (without words) - should I run for it, or is there another one coming behind it, which goes in the same place? If I take that one, can I change with number X subway train, or is it wednesday and the train is out of service, etc. But you do it all in pure, raw thought, not in conversational language.