Inexact manifestations

[seirwyn]

Does anyone find that they manifest things that arent exactly what they visualised? I put out a very specific request but the thing I got was not quite what I visualised. I am perfectly happy with it, but I am just a bit worried about whether when I attempt to manifest something else I will be disappointed with the results because they are not quite what I asked for.
People say that if you put a picture on a vision board an meditate on it then you get something that looks exactly like what is on the board. So why does this inexact stuff happen?
p.s. I know that you can sometimes get something better, but why do you get something that is niether better or exactly what you asked for?

[Bradshaw]

I remember this happened to me quite a bit when i started playing around with manifesting. Heck, it still does, but you just learn to trust the process over time.

Visualizing a red hat and then getting a red cap or visualizing a yellow umbrella and getting a yellow beach umbrella. Something like that? That's what happened to me anyway.

Here's my take on it: It is simply a matter of skill with the mind.

The more skill you develop in painting pictures, the faster and better you paint pictures.

The more skill you develop in manifesting and all the mental stuff, the faster and better you will manifest.

Just as a young and inexperienced painter improves his skills so he can paint better, so should a young and inexperienced manifester try to constantly improve. For example, intending to be better with LoA is a very good way to become more skilled at manifesting.

[seirwyn]

So can you get more exact things now? Does a vision board help with this?
As I said before, it seems that people who use vision boards get stuff that matches exactly what they have on their board.
The things I have done so far have not been on a vision board because I couldnt find any pictures of them. If I had, I would have just bought them because I would have probably got the pictures from an online shop anyway!

[Angela]

Seirwyn, you can draw a representation of what you want, or you can get a symbol of what you want, helpful if it's an abstract desire.

[songwriter]

Yes, I feel like you. When it's about simple things, I can manifest easily what it was... When It's complicated things I use to manifest a similar thing. But well, I couldn't manifest those "complicated" things not so long ago.

Maybe you couldn't either and now got a better skill. As some say of the painter maybe you're getting better at it.

[SimonaRich]

It used to happen to me too, but then I would reject that thing and ask for the universe to give me the exact thing I want and then the universe would give me the exact match of my desires.

Now as I am more experienced in manifesting that does not happen. So maybe it is to do with your skill.

[MagicalRealist]

Originally Posted by SimonaRich

It used to happen to me too, but then I would reject that thing and ask for the universe to give me the exact thing I want and then the universe would give me the exact match of my desires.

I used to have similar experiences.

I think one reason I kept getting things that were close, but not what I really asked for, was because I was so accustomed to not getting exactly what I wanted. I had developed a habit of accepting things that were "close enough"--even when they weren't really close enough at all--because at least it was something.

I was used to being disappointed. I expected to be disappointed. And I was so conditioned to be grateful that I got anything at all that it seemed churlish to say, "Thank you for your generosity, but this isn't what I asked for."

The universe does not take offense if you reject the first thing it sends you and hold out for what you really want. But if you're subconsciouly open to receiving something less than what you wanted, and are willing to accept it instead of your true desire, the universe will keep sending you things you don't really want.

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by MagicalRealist

I used to have similar experiences.

I think one reason I kept getting things that were close, but not what I really asked for, was because I was so accustomed to not getting exactly what I wanted. I had developed a habit of accepting things that were "close enough"--even when they weren't really close enough at all--because at least it was something.

I was used to being disappointed. I expected to be disappointed. And I was so conditioned to be grateful that I got anything at all that it seemed churlish to say, "Thank you for your generosity, but this isn't what I asked for."

The universe does not take offense if you reject the first thing it sends you and hold out for what you really want. But if you're subconsciouly open to receiving something less than what you wanted, and are willing to accept it instead of your true desire, the universe will keep sending you things you don't really want.

ok, great advice. So even if we're starting to manifest "complicate" things, we should not accept aproximations cause that prevents us to manifest our real intentions really.

[MagicalRealist]

Originally Posted by songwriter

ok, great advice. So even if we're starting to manifest "complicate" things, we should not accept aproximations cause that prevents us to manifest our real intentions really.

Yes. Sometimes I'll accept what came, if I can easily use it to get what I really want. For example, my dad gave me a piece of jewelry a couple of Christmases ago that was very nice, and very expensive. But it was exactly what I didn't want--I'd been intending something totally different.

What was right was the jeweler; my dad bought the gift from the same company that makes the piece I wanted. So it was easy to exchange what I got for the piece I now own. I then proceeded to be grateful for it and think about how nice it is to finally have it and thank the universe for bringing me exactly what I wanted. The universe didn't deliver it to me directly, but in that case? It got close enough.

Right now, I want a new bed. I have something very specific in mind; it has a certain kind of upholstery on it. I've drawn pictures of it because I haven't been able to find exact photographs in catalogues, but I know it exists. I'm a little bit obsessed about it, I admit, and have been since January.

So far, I've been sent two beds that I could have taken--both very nice, but not what I wanted. The first had an upholstered frame, but that was the only similarity with the one I want. The second was the right style, but upholstered in leather and had some ugly carved trim on it, so I turned it down too.

I plan on moving to another city this year, and it might be easier to manifest that bed after the move, so I've reaffirmed my desire for that specific bed and none other, even if it takes a little longer. I haven't had any more "hits" in the past month, which is fine--the bed will eventually show up, and when it does I know it will be the exact one.

I've also noticed that if I am intent on having something very quickly, I tend to get offered more "options" before I get what I really want. It's as if my desire to manifest something fast is at the forefront, rather than the specific nature of the object itself, so I get offered things that are sort-of close in response to my desire for speed. I don't get upset by it because I know that means things are working and what I want is on the way. It's actually a very good sign. The trick is to hold on until what I want shows up, because if I accept something lesser the universe figures its job is done, and thus never gets around to bringing the right thing (unless I ask again, and wait).

It can be too easy to settle, thinking that nothing else is forthcoming. But don't--hold out for what you genuinely want. It'll show up if you keep insisting on it.

[songwriter]

Thank you, so simple and so great advice.

[Angela]

I think it's important to give myself room for something better than an exact replica of what I desire, because I recognize that I am the process of life and expansion in the universe and relative to what I don't know I don't know, my little imagination is teeny tiny -- I wouldn't want to limit what comes into my life to just what I can imagine. I want what I can't imagine, too!

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Angela

I think it's important to give myself room for something better than an exact replica of what I desire, because I recognize that I am the process of life and expansion in the universe and relative to what I don't know I don't know, my little imagination is teeny tiny -- I wouldn't want to limit what comes into my life to just what I can imagine. I want what I can't imagine, too!

Well, if one of my manifestation excels my imagination then I'll be more than satisfied.

I don't think I can get to that level now. But well, if it's settling down for less than what you intended is not good. Maybe settling down for something just like what you intended is not very good if the universe can bring you something ever better.

[Angela]

I think part of it is recognizing that whatever IS in your moment is absolutely perfect to be there in that moment. That involves opening up from a perspective of "this isn't good enough" to "how is this perfect right now?"

An example would be a few years ago, when I was imaging and ordaining a romantic relationship. In my imagination, I saw a short, balding, Jewish jazz musician. One night, a friend invited me to a party and there was Danger Man -- tall, recovering Catholic, lots of hair, a model. I didn't look twice -- he just didn't match my internal representation of what my boyfriend would look like. Somehow or other, though, he wormed his way into my heart, and I opened up my point of view to see how loving, generous, fun, endearing, intelligent, and yes, handsome, he is. Imagine if I had said to myself, "Oh, no, I'm not going to settle for this guy, why should I settle when I could have EXACTLY what I want!" That would have been pretty stupid, I think.

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Angela

I think part of it is recognizing that whatever IS in your moment is absolutely perfect to be there in that moment. That involves opening up from a perspective of "this isn't good enough" to "how is this perfect right now?"

An example would be a few years ago, when I was imaging and ordaining a romantic relationship. In my imagination, I saw a short, balding, Jewish jazz musician. One night, a friend invited me to a party and there was Danger Man -- tall, recovering Catholic, lots of hair, a model. I didn't look twice -- he just didn't match my internal representation of what my boyfriend would look like. Somehow or other, though, he wormed his way into my heart, and I opened up my point of view to see how loving, generous, fun, endearing, intelligent, and yes, handsome, he is. Imagine if I had said to myself, "Oh, no, I'm not going to settle for this guy, why should I settle when I could have EXACTLY what I want!" That would have been pretty stupid, I think.

Unfortunately some people it's sadly that stupid... I mean when they got the change of getting something really good, they think they don't deserve it.
In relationships I know lots of situations where some rejected other cause they're though they were "too good for then" or that "they were not serious but joking".
And I know the interested ones were really interested. Actually they were down after such reaction...

If you don't search for the best things, you can have it there for you in your face and refusing them.

I think the question of "what we deserve" is very tricky. Steve says everyone earns what they think they deserve to earn...
Makes me think of the L'oreal slogan "Because I deserve it"...
We get what we deserve, but what we deserved depends of our free will..., I think.

[Angela]

Yes, limiting beliefs like, "I don't deserve it" are huge, powerful shapers in the manifestations that show up for us. And even the manifestations that show up in the vibration of "I don't deserve it" are perfect -- like the manifestation of the illusion of "loss" and regret. Those are great, because they help light up the path of expansion -- when the consequences get dire enough, we're willing to let go of what doesn't work and to take on something new that might just work! That's wonderful, and that's perfect.

I'm smiling now as I remember some of the irritating things and people I've created in my life that were born directly out of my limiting belief. I'm so powerful!

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Angela

Yes, limiting beliefs like, "I don't deserve it" are huge, powerful shapers in the manifestations that show up for us. And even the manifestations that show up in the vibration of "I don't deserve it" are perfect -- like the manifestation of the illusion of "loss" and regret. Those are great, because they help light up the path of expansion -- when the consequences get dire enough, we're willing to let go of what doesn't work and to take on something new that might just work! That's wonderful, and that's perfect.

I'm smiling now as I remember some of the irritating things and people I've created in my life that were born directly out of my limiting belief. I'm so powerful!

yes, I don't know where and when do we get the concept of "deserving" something.
Maybe at school, Lennon used to say that's school primary function is the bullying of others guys calling you names and that, so our self-esteem and sense of deserving something goes weak.
Like, I don't know, calling you fat, when fat can have great relationships too. Ugly people marry and some are very succesful and happy.
Or calling you and idiot when you don't need a high IQ to achieve great things

We could say "whether you think you deserve it or not, you are right"

YouTube - Working Class Hero - John Lennon


"As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all

A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so ****ing crazy you can't follow their rules

A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear

A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and class less and free
But you're still ****ing peasants as far as I can see

A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they are telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill

A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

If you want to be a hero well just follow me
If you want to be a hero well just follow me"

[seirwyn]

wow! Thanks guys!! Very helpful and encouraging advice!!
This has been bothering me for ages and Ive asked about it on the forum before but I dont think I phrased the question or title well enough for people to really be drawn to read it.
Im thinking of using the inexact things as signs of land rather than accepting them as the actual result.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by songwriter

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear

Sounds about right...

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Sounds about right...

yes, then we choose in a wrong way... Lennon was almost always right. I can call him an "ascended master" if religious people don't get angry about it.
The great thing is that in him and other musicians you've got his direct message, no interpretation or books about it.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by songwriter

yes, then we choose in a wrong way...

I'm arriving at the point where I finally need to deal with the wrong choices; I guess that's why those verses caught my eye.

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I'm arriving at the point where I finally need to deal with the wrong choices; I guess that's why those verses caught my eye.

ok, then another Lennon one for you
YouTube - Instant Karma - John lennon
"Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon youre gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin to do
Its up to you, yeah you

Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin at fools like me
Who in the hell dyou think you are
A super star
Well, right you are

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Evryone come on

Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna knock you off your feet
Better recognize your brothers
Evryone you meet
Why in the world are we here
Surely not to live in pain and fear
Why on earth are you there
When youre evrywhere
Come and get your share

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Come on and on and on on on
Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
On and on and on on and on

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun"

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by songwriter

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
On and on and on on and on

Funny story; an uncle of mine, long deceased, once requested a spirit communication late at night. This snippet of song then came in on a weak radio station, and scared the hell out of him!

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Funny story; an uncle of mine, long deceased, once requested a spirit communication late at night. This snippet of song then came in on a weak radio station, and scared the hell out of him!

haha, synchronicity... Lennon's lyrics are very often Steve Pavlina-like...
If you watch Dylan, McCartney, Springsteen... lyrics they didn't talk about what Steve talks about. But Lennon style is close, bold and saying "inconvenient truths", intelectual, against religions but spiritual, about consciousness, meditation, the universe, against the status quo

Dylan is more social oriented, and relationship oriented...
McCartney is positivity, apreciate the beauty in life, encouraging, nurturing...
Springsteen is everyday stories, urban character dramas...

"Why in the world we're here? Surely to live in pain and fear"
that sounds like Steve.
"Hey Jude, don't be afraid, take a sad song and make it better" than doesn't sound as Steve....
or "it's a city full of losers but boy I'm here to win" either

but this does... about purchasing the purpose of everyone's life helping others... overcoming everything

The Beatles-All you need is love
YouTube - All You Need Is Love - The Beatles

There's nothing you can do that can't be done
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung
Nothing you can say, but you can learn how the play the game
It's easy

There's nothing you can make that can't be made
No one you can save that can't be saved
Nothing you can do, but you can learn how to be you in time
It's easy

All you need is love
All you need is love
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need

Love, love, love
Love, love, love
Love, love, love

There's nothing you can know that cant be known.
Nothing you can see that isn't shown
Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be
It's easy

All you need is love
All you need is love
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need

All you need is love
All you need is love
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need
Love is all you need
Love is all you need
Love is all you need
Love is all you need
Love is all you need
(She loves you yeah, yeah, yeah!)

[Wax Frog]

I'm just thankful I manifested a quartet of Scousers who once spun their heads and shouted "OOH!"

It doesn't get much 'Waxier' than that

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I'm just thankful I manifested a quartet of Scousers who once spun their heads and shouted "OOH!"

It doesn't get much 'Waxier' than that

lol... Lennon didn't write that, I don't think Steve would write it either...

not even now in the blogs about sex

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by songwriter

lol... Lennon didn't write that, I don't think Steve would write it either...

not even now in the blogs about sex

Be sure and let me know if he does!

[seirwyn]

Originally Posted by MagicalRealist

Yes. Sometimes I'll accept what came, if I can easily use it to get what I really want. For example, my dad gave me a piece of jewelry a couple of Christmases ago that was very nice, and very expensive. But it was exactly what I didn't want--I'd been intending something totally different.

What was right was the jeweler; my dad bought the gift from the same company that makes the piece I wanted. So it was easy to exchange what I got for the piece I now own. I then proceeded to be grateful for it and think about how nice it is to finally have it and thank the universe for bringing me exactly what I wanted. The universe didn't deliver it to me directly, but in that case? It got close enough.

Right now, I want a new bed. I have something very specific in mind; it has a certain kind of upholstery on it. I've drawn pictures of it because I haven't been able to find exact photographs in catalogues, but I know it exists. I'm a little bit obsessed about it, I admit, and have been since January.

So far, I've been sent two beds that I could have taken--both very nice, but not what I wanted. The first had an upholstered frame, but that was the only similarity with the one I want. The second was the right style, but upholstered in leather and had some ugly carved trim on it, so I turned it down too.

I plan on moving to another city this year, and it might be easier to manifest that bed after the move, so I've reaffirmed my desire for that specific bed and none other, even if it takes a little longer. I haven't had any more "hits" in the past month, which is fine--the bed will eventually show up, and when it does I know it will be the exact one.

I've also noticed that if I am intent on having something very quickly, I tend to get offered more "options" before I get what I really want. It's as if my desire to manifest something fast is at the forefront, rather than the specific nature of the object itself, so I get offered things that are sort-of close in response to my desire for speed. I don't get upset by it because I know that means things are working and what I want is on the way. It's actually a very good sign. The trick is to hold on until what I want shows up, because if I accept something lesser the universe figures its job is done, and thus never gets around to bringing the right thing (unless I ask again, and wait).

It can be too easy to settle, thinking that nothing else is forthcoming. But don't--hold out for what you genuinely want. It'll show up if you keep insisting on it.

I am finding now that the things appear in the way described above-they might not be what i specified or they might not turn up in the way that I imagined so at first it feels like Im settling for something that isnt what i asked for. But usually upon examination I find that it is what I wanted and I actually prefer it. 2 examples are : I wanted a choker with a plastic rose on it. I found the perfect rose but it was on a keychain, not a choker. I bought it anyway amd made it into a choker since the 'ingrediant' that had to be a certain look was the rose and the rose was a perfect match. I discovered that I preferred the choker I made to the one I imagined.

I also wanted salon hair extensions and not clip in ones because I didnt think they would look natural enough. I wanted to get them for free or really cheaply. But I found some clip in ones today that are perfect and werent very expensive. I am totally happy with these things BUT-I want to manifest a partner and I have so far manifested someone who is an inexact match which I am not happy with and cannot accept. I am worried that all I can do is manifest inexact things because it keeps happening to me! Although I am happy with the other inexact manifestations, I am not happy with this one and want to hold out for what I really want.

[Landi Star]

As far as inexact manifestations, I’ve had some that, in time, I saw that they were better or just as good as what I was intending… and some that I took as “signs” or “harbingers” of the real thing (though sometimes I didn’t see that at the time and initially thought that I just got an “inferior” version of what I wanted).
It’s really up to me what I make of it and how I use it!

Inexact manifestations as “signs” or “harbingers” are more common when I have a larger (or broader) intention-- often my “biggies”.

Here are some interesting ones:

I’ve had a big, broad intention in the past 2 or 3 years for more money (“financial abundance”). Apart from the more conventional channels of money (and there’s certainly been an increase in income & possibilities in those), I also like money to manifest “magically” (for one, this really ‘proves’ or ‘demonstrates’ LOA… & also it’s FUN!).

For a while I got into this fantasy of finding a bag with a lot of money… Like maybe an eccentric, playful very wealthy person left it out for whoever finds it, or money from drug dealing (in a bag) that was dropped in a chase (and of course I’d put it to good use!).

Well, turns out that one day I DID find a bag of money-- but it was PLAY MONEY! It was in a trash can on top of papers… a big plastic bag with all denominations of $$$. So I (later on) took this as symbolic of more ‘financial abundance’ coming into my life.
Interestingly, later I discovered that some of the bills which I thought were $100s turned out to be 1,000-dollar bills… so there were lots of $100s and lots of $1,000s and I thought, “Wow… this really totals a huge amount… a REAL sign of financial abundance!!!”

Now, another vision of mine was/is of having so much wealth that I could play with it… and one of the fantasies was/is of buying a big treasure chest and temporarily filling it w/money (mostly $100 bills) as a game to celebrate the surplus wealth (and having fun w/some of the wads of cash)… this kind of became symbolic of the “surplus fun-money” aspect of the financial abundance I’m manifesting.

Well one day I actually found a big treasure chest in front of a house two blocks from mine with a sign, “FREE-- TAKE IT”. I took it and, again, saw it as a powerful sign that the surplus money to “fill it” (in my game) is coming. It also could be seen as a “partial manifestation”… in other words, part of the fantasy came about (the treasure chest)… now I have to keep cooking the second part (having the surplus wealth to fill it).

Curiously, shortly after finding the big treasure chest, I also found a smaller treasure chest (which I’d forgotten we had) in our home’s storage shed, which I later filled up with some of the play money I found in that big plastic bag… and I placed the treasure in a special place. This has become another symbol of that financial abundance and the “playing with the surplus” that are part of the vision.

I’ve had lots and lots of synchs and “harbingers” (& actual money manifestations) since I made the ‘financial abundance’ intention. Sometimes I’ve given it less energy, but in periods when I do energize it consistently, the magic happenings are truly quite something! (I’ve been into LOA and mindfulness meditation for many, many years so I’m no beginner… and I take a light, playful approach to the whole thing!).

Thing is, I get excited about these magical “symbolic” things almost as though they were the real thing. The idea of all this “magic” & synchs happening is fun and exciting and makes life into an adventure (like a big treasure hunt!)

[seirwyn]

Originally Posted by Landi Star

I take a light, playful approach to the whole thing!).

Thats what works for me! i have found that when I manifested money the full amount came to me from different sources and at different times. But it did add up to the full amount.
I wonder if it works like this: You ask for something, and things that approximate it show up before the actual thing itself.
Thanks for your encouragement because I was worried that my manifestation had gone wrong!

[Vaughn Brown]

When you say your concerned about not getting exactly what youve manifested ,thats the problem you cant have doubt.. the LOA will respond exactly to your thoughts...if your sending signals of doubt and worry it will respond with like actions...your on the right track..just some minor adjustments may be needed in your thinking. Happy Manifesting!!!!