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| Over the past couple of weeks, there has been a lot of discussion about taking action to experience manifestations. And I think there is a consensus, that yes, action must be taken. Although I still see varying opinions on how much action and when it should be taken (here and other forums). There is a concept known as 'detachment' which has often been spoken of in context of prayer, IM and realizing one's desires. I've seen it brought up a few times around here, but I don't remember anyone focusing discussion on it. Many spiritual teachers through the centuries have spoken of the importance of detachment. From what I've heard or read, it seems to be that a detachment from the how something will manifest will better allow its manifestation. How does this coincide with your belief in taking action? Are you practicing detachment? |
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| I think many would say that in the IM process, you set your intention or desire. You focus energy or emotion (or gratitude or whatever) on the belief that it is coming and already a done deal. This is where IMO 'detachment' comes in. With things in motion, you remove your attention from "how" it will arrive and simply look for synchronicities. When you spot one, you take action. The fact that detachment is not talked about much in this context does not exclude it from the manifestation process. |
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Detachment refers equally to the identification relationship with with what you have and what you don't have (ie desires). Practice of detachment with respect to what you have can be expressed as gratitude; you separate or detach your identity from the having; you are grateful for what you have, but you don't depend on their presence for your self-existence. In that sense, detachment is not only compatible with, but a critical aspect of LoA that the various teachers and practitioners simply describe in a different way.
__________________ Manifest Revolution: Live truth. Last edited by AndyMartin : 01-13-2007 at 03:03 PM. Reason: clarification |
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| Excellent topic. The detachment is towards the end-result of action, not towards performing action. This is actually the art of skillful activity, where one remains as a witness, and does not get elated with success, nor dejected with failure. In the Bhagavad Gita, Sri Krishna in essence advises, " You have the right to act, but you do not have the right to the fruits of your action. Therefore you must act without the anticipation of the result, yet without succumbing to inaction (never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities)." So, after being established in the natural state of equanimity and bliss, when one thinks or acts from that state it automatically results in excellence, because all mental energies have been conserved and directed towards the task at hand with singular, laser-like focus. This sort of action will naturally produce superior results. |
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This leaves me with one question though: Would a person who is detached from material desire use I-M to get material things? |
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| Is detachment like letting go...?
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so long as you do not own them or become attached to them? |
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So, the way one would manifest desires is through a more relaxed, flowing attitude of laissez faire towards what is naturally attracted in one's life as a result of thought and action which does not spring from ego or a sense of doership. Bliss attracts fortune if fortune is what one desires, and one does enjoy the fortune when it comes around, too. But if the very next day all riches were lost, one would still maintain the inner state of a king. That is true detachment. Last edited by Antarananda : 01-13-2007 at 07:06 PM. |
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| Perhaps a simple example will be helpful. Suppose you are a sportsman. Your intention is to set a new record at a certain competition next year. Now obviously you will have to train hard and regularly, to achieve that goal. However, if you are not detached, but attached, you will keep thinking and worrying: "What if I don't succeed? I must succeed. But what if so-&-so beats me? I hear he's training very hard too, ahd he's very good. Oh no. If I don't succeed I don't know what I'm gonna do next in life. What would people say? I If I succeed, that would be fantastic ...! " etc etc. If you are detached, you will simply plant the intention "I set a new record at ______." Then everyday till then, you simply do your necessary training, consistently, without fear or anxiety. |
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| It's about your state of inner being. Outcomes are out there, your being is inside you. Learn to accept your inner being and get to the point where you no longer need outcomes to justify your feeling of joy and happiness. From the joy and happiness, it will be easier to manifest things, even though you don't reallly care about the outcome. |
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| Wonderful posts here, and yes I think a form of detachment is present in many spiritual teachings. Perhaps detachment helps us also to avoid attracting the opposite of what we are seeking, because if we don't put forth our intention and then detach ourselves from the outcomes, is it not easier to find ourselves worrying in one way or another abt the outcome not coming forth? Also, as intention leads to positive action, then detachment leads to more focus on the positive and more energy for continued intention and continued positive action. No or little energy being sapped by worrying about the outcome. Anyone have any experiences with this? I am currently working on some positive outcomes in my work place and in my family (double duty these days!!). I'm working hard to focus on the positive and I thank you for reminding me of something I have not been so attentive to, that of actively detaching myself from specific outcomes, after I have done every thing I can. I'll add that in. So often there are things we know intellectually or by prior experience but we forget to actually act upon. Thank you!
__________________ Ati A Musica Cura Saudade |
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| If you wish for something and then you acknowledge it doesn't matter whether or not you receive or achieve it, then detachment may indeed influence circumstances you do not expect. We hear that some of the best situations evolve when we least expect them, but I believe part of us is often seeking something in our soul or it wouldn't manifest. We need to be observant enough to recognize love or other opportunities that appear nearby. If you detach yourself from completely outcomes, they may come even if you don't wish for them, and you may let them float bywithout acknowledgement even if they would be good for you . |
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| A friend was talking about 'adding value' to IM by adding 'or something better' to intention manifestation. Then you ALLOW the universe to work its magic. By adding an unknown element to your intent your rational mind doesn't kick in as readily with its 'the only way it can happen is if I do this or that happens first.' You also have to detatch and TRUST. Lallymac |
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| It is always incrediable how thought vibrations work... Right after reading a new Law to me, The Law of Detachment, I decide to visit Steve's forums finally and read something... And whats the first thread I see? Yep, Detachment. In any case, if anyone wants a little insight... Law of Detachment |
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| I'm missing something, I think. Maybe someone can clarify things for me. Whenever I have a desire, there always follows a certain amount of emotional tension that can only be resolved by the realization of my desire. Hence, if I am truly unconcerned whether my desire is fulfilled or not, then it is not (to me) a genuine desire. I think of Steve's MDE, and cannot help but think that notmanifesting a million dollars will cause at least some disappointment. Is that not attachment to outcome? And, for ALG, won't the athlete striving to set a new record feel at least some disappointment if he does not, indeed, set a new record? And is he, therefore, not attached to the outcome? I'm not trying to be ascerbic here, I'm really trying to understand. In truth, I believe wholeheartedly in the principles of I-M, but I'm having a heck of a time with the mechanics of it all. There seems to be a whole range of interpretations flying around. What I think I have heard in the distant past regarding attachment and detachment is this: believe that your desire will be (has already been) fulfilled, but do not be too concerned (i.e., attached) with how it will be fulfilled, or whether the result is exactly as you envisioned it. That is how I understand "not being attached to the outcome." It is quite different from not caring whether the desire is fulfilled. And, yes, adding a "this or something better" to my affirmation might be a step in the right direction. But it still doesn't relieve me of an expectation that something will manifest, or from feeling disappointment if it is not fulfilled. Perhaps I need some more practical examples of detachment. Anyone? |
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| The truly detached ones are the Buddhas and enlightened Masters of this world. They don't run around trying to "manifest" stuff. That's not to say that all are passive; in fact my own spiritual Master is just 29, and more dynamic than anyone else I have ever met. Yet, he is just as relaxed and detached and blissful now as he was in his early days staying in a little hut in south India, despite speaking and teaching and traveling engagements that keep him busy practically every day of the year. I truly believe that developing the state where you are operating from your inner bliss as the locus of control, rather than focusing on outer manifestation, is the way to total success, both in the material world as well as the spiritual. Meditation and "letting go" emotionally are the tools to achieve that equipoise where one is in the world, but not of the world. Last edited by Antarananda : 01-15-2007 at 04:04 AM. Reason: clarity |
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| Thanks Antarananda. I am constantly learning about how to become more relaxed and detached. Do you think that it is logical to become increasingly content and at ease when stress levels are rising all around me? |
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Is there any reason why people should use I-M for their spiritual development? |


