Really confused and need to sort this out.

[dwixi]

Ok. David icke says that im has limits. They are a rule of this reality but other things can come into our reality that we can't change with im. Another race complestlt indipendant of im. Im is part of this mortal reality, not spirtitual reality. We can belive what happens after death but it won't manifest when we die. There won't be god and Jesus waiting in the clouds for Christians if that isn't what is true, for example. So yeah apparently there are reptilian form spirts that take human forme and they are darkworkers.

[joelr]

It's believed that spiritual realms are similar to the realms we inhabit while dreaming. There intentions manifest quicker than in physical reality.
In the Seth books Jane Roberts /Seth says that beliefs about the afterlife will manifest when a person dies to make the transformation easier. Eventually they are revealed to be illusions.
Of course, no one knows for sure. Depends on which model you subscribe to at any given time I guess.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by joelr

It's believed that spiritual realms are similar to the realms we inhabit while dreaming. There intentions manifest quicker than in physical reality.

This morning I dreamt I was discussing a superficially difficult, but actually simple, geometry/math puzzle with someone who'd solved it; during the discussion I became extremely hoarse. I finally awakened to find myself actually hoarse, but less severely than in the dream...

[dwixi]

Maybe life is here to make it eager for us to understand the after life. Kinda like proveing to god you deserve to go to heaven, in terms of Christianity.

[cylon]

I'm not proving nothing to no one.

[seirwyn]

You dont have to prove anything to anyone. Dont waste your life trying to be a good person when it is all just an act. I beleive that the only thing God cares about is whether we are truly loving. If we harbour hate and anger and stuff I think this will have karmic implications. I think there is a big difference between people who do good stuff just cause theyre trying to impress God (not that its a bad thing to do good stuff) and people who do good stuff because they really want to because they are connected the the Source.Or maybe people who dont even believe in a God at all but do good stuff anyway because they cant tolerate injustice or violence etc. I think this is impressive because theyre motivation is pure love for humanity-not merely an attempt to buy their way into heaven.

Whats the details on the reptilians? I have heard something like that is mentioned in the Zohar (one of the primary texts of the Kaballah, written centuries ago-way before the UFO craze)

[joelr]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

This morning I dreamt I was discussing a superficially difficult, but actually simple, geometry/math puzzle with someone who'd solved it; during the discussion I became extremely hoarse. I finally awakened to find myself actually hoarse, but less severely than in the dream...

That's happened to me. I had a disturbing dream about having acne and the next day, on my clear skin, emerged a really large red lump that looked more like I got punched than a blemish. But it was acne for sure.
I wonder if the power of suggestion from the dream state caused it or it was premonition? Or simply my body recognizing the small yet troublesome infection and incorporating it into my dream.

[ns123]

dwixi,

The beautiful thing about beliefs is that they are beliefs! My advice is to choose what beliefs results you in living the life you love and believe that.

If you go about trying to prove which belief is right, and which one is wrong... you'll end up just confused and creating confusion for yourself. You don't have to be a Christian, a Muslim, a Pavlina-ist, you can just be you. Choose what beliefs empower you and help you create the life you want. Discard the rest.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by joelr

I wonder if the power of suggestion from the dream state caused it or it was premonition? Or simply my body recognizing the small yet troublesome infection and incorporating it into my dream.

I'd love to get the knack of lucid dreaming so I could experiment.

[joelr]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I'd love to get the knack of lucid dreaming so I could experiment.

I've been working on that for a few weeks now. Years ago I had some success. Lately I've had none. I don't like the method where you wake up in the dream. I prefer to remain conscious while falling asleep although it usually scares me into awakeness because all the strange physical things that people warn will happen as you drift into sleep do actually happen to me. They are rather unsettling to say the least! The continually opening my eyes trick does not work for me either. Frustrating!!! One problem now is I sleep too hard because I'm on a med called Suboxone.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by joelr

I prefer to remain conscious while falling asleep although it usually scares me into awakeness because all the strange physical things that people warn will happen as you drift into sleep do actually happen to me.

Yep, WILD is definitely not appealing to me. I experienced sleep paralysis regularly in my teens and early 20s, and I don't miss it; still, if it ever recurs, I hope I will have the presence of mind to make use of it.

[joelr]

Heh. Yeah. Right when I get the paralysis I get the really LOUD ear ringing, starts quiet then gets louder. Then the strange energy/buzzing in the chest. Crazy!! I think that's actually considered astral projection if I were to pull out of my body at that point. Right after the chest buzzing is when they say you lift out of your body. All I know is that the sensations described in some books are real! I wouldn't have believed it but boy was I surprised. That chest thing is definitely no normal sensation. It's like a swirl of pulsating energy. I was fully conscious and trying to move and like "Oh ****!" Talk about proof of spiritual stuff. There is nothing like experiencing phenomenon for yourself.
After that I was scared to try again for 10 years.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by joelr

Heh. Yeah. Right when I get the paralysis I get the really LOUD ear ringing, starts quiet then gets louder.

I would hear like these electronic waves in my head, they were audible but I could feel them at the same time. Sounded like a lightsaber going back and forth but in quick, regular cycles. The first few times it happened to me it was pretty scary. But I soon learned that was the time to have a lucid dream.

[SarahLuvzYu]

Originally Posted by joelr

That's happened to me. I had a disturbing dream about having acne and the next day, on my clear skin, emerged a really large red lump that looked more like I got punched than a blemish. But it was acne for sure.
I wonder if the power of suggestion from the dream state caused it or it was premonition? Or simply my body recognizing the small yet troublesome infection and incorporating it into my dream.

*thinks about dreams*

.... Our world is going to be eaten by green snot aliens!

He-he well actually I think it was you manifesting the blemish, I mean be manifest everything around us, you may not have wanted that blemish but you brought it into your awareness. Just what I think anyway