Methods that work in changing beliefs?

[TiffyLove]

We manifest from our beliefs right. I have some deep limiting beliefs I am working at removing.

"Nothing ever works out for me" in the past (don't want to affirm it more)
"If I want something I know I am not going to get it" in the past
"The universe loves to test me and be hard on me" in the past

I know these are not helping, I know I need to change them and I am working on it but I have been for years.

What other methods and ways work to change or replace limiting beliefs with empowering ones?

[Wax Frog]

Thank you for this thread! A question that can never be asked enough!

[themaster]

Well, my teacher says.. that once you indentify it's working..

You can ask this question "how does this serve me??"

There are a few more steps to it than that.. but I'm forgetting how exactly it goes..

Here is some more stuff I remember offhand..

My teacher says that "change" comes from within.. (paraphrasing) and that you keep beliefs active because they re-enforce themselves inside your reality..

I'll take this belief.. "The universe loves to test me and be hard on me"

And throw a example.. let's say in your reality.. you’re doing your normal thing.. and you get one of those daily monkey wrenches.. like your key broke in your lock.. you would re-enforce or complete this belief as true by thinking this.. you would not if you instead just looked at it as a unfortunate coincidence you created/allowed that you prefer not to have happen again.. and of course confirm or realize that you had left this belief behind long ago..

Also and I'm not trying to make this more complicated then it is.. but it's my understanding that sometimes there are foundational beliefs.. so you may hit one.. 1 but it's layered and just cause you got it doesn't mean you've gone all the way.. (it's mentioned by my teacher.. that if you have a belief.. BELIEFS are hard to get rid off your in for a hard time)

Here is my understanding from my teacher(s)..
- Never insist that anything can't happen to you..
- When manifesting in daily life always use the word preference or prefer words like this.. I have this preference on this.. and that preference on that.. it is a better way to manifest and not insist..

If you prefer I will see if I can get some transcriptions from my teacher on beliefs.. I'm not 100% sure I have any.. but I can look..

[TiffyLove]

themaster,

Thank you I would love some scripts if you could find any. I really like the concept of using the word prefer. Then it kind of goes around my belief.

That specific belief tends to work this way. If I am affirming that "I am a money magnet and great opportunities always come my way", it seems all of a sudden I have money trouble rather than good. If I say "Albert and I have a strong fulfilling relationship" (Albert is my long term boyfriend), then all of a sudden we have some serious challenges in our relationship. I don't want to affirm this belief but I believe instead of insisting something I could say prefer but than how do you affirm something in present tense with the word "prefer" (Not possible)?

But it could be used for my "wantings".

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by TiffyLove

We manifest from our beliefs right. I have some deep limiting beliefs I am working at removing.

"Nothing ever works out for me" in the past (don't want to affirm it more)
"If I want something I know I am not going to get it" in the past
"The universe loves to test me and be hard on me" in the past

I know these are not helping, I know I need to change them and I am working on it but I have been for years.

What other methods and ways work to change or replace limiting beliefs with empowering ones?

Your core beliefs about yourself are in play. I would concentrate on those e.g am I deserving?

[magic1]

spend some time on your beliefs but FOCUS MORE attention on FAITH in the LOA or ability to create process...my understanding is, when you look at limiting beliefs...you are actually somewhat always, affirming you have them ( I tried it!!!!!)...and even when you clear those, more crop up, they are never ending little buggers...so your never there! your never just ok, to have what you want.........basically they are in your mind.....and are crap! and side track your mind to a place that is never in the now.... .............its you fighting you.....mostly on a conscious level....

If you however focus on developing faith with and in source...believe me, all you ever thought about you and your capabilities...pails in comparison, WHEN YOU FINALLY TRULY BELIEVE IN SOURCE............................YOU ACTUALLY BECOME SOURCE!!!!!!!! and everything is suddenly possible, because you know in its connection to you.....How you have seen yourself in the past, becomes a completely ridiculous illusion, (in fact you ll have a laugh at how silly you were!!!!).... and your true power NATURALLY comes to the forefront .......... you literally start to recognize yourself as the genie that you always have been, but just forgot that you were....



This is an inadvertent consequence of developing true faith.........believe me, after a few years chasing my tail around my legs.......I finally figured it out....

[TiffyLove]

magic1,

You mention to focus on developing faith, LOA and faith in the source (I use the term universe, same thing). Do you have any specific ways, exercises, things you did to help you in this process?

I have been working on this as well, I "come" from both "fronts". Working on remembering who I am (divine, source, etc.) while reprogramming the conditioned mind.

However from what you have stated here, It sounds as if you have found that finding faith in source is the most powerful.

Now how to increase that faith, is the question!

Maguru,

I have never thought of it that way. My core beliefs. Deserving is definitely at the root of those.
Thank you

[StacyT]

I have been working on changing my beliefs, too. One thing that I did yesterday is write "I No Longer Believe" at the top of a piece of paper. Underneath it I wrote down all of my self-limiting beliefs.

Then I read them aloud (putting "I no longer believe" in front of each one), and lit it on fire (in the fireplace!). I asked the universe to carry these beliefs away from me. I watched the smoke rise up and pictured these beliefs being carried away to wither and die.

It was good timing because two of the things I wrote down on my paper were put to the test within the next three seconds. The phone rang as soon as I was done, and it was my mom.

I got to test both of these out immediately:

"I no longer believe that only my mom knows what is best for me"
"I no longer believe that I have to lie to spare people's feelings"

We had a good conversation and I felt like the universe was giving me a little wink.

[themaster]

Okay, this is the best I can find.. I can post or send out a audio clip which is newer which talks about the "how does this serve me method" since I happened to run into it last night (what a coincidence??) I missed something in the method I forgot about.. my teacher suggests the first thing to do is to *pause* in the moment to do the analysis.. The recording comes from "The Soul Blueprint" in case anyone wants a specific name

Anyway here is some older stuff.. (that I think resonates best)

Redefining of Beliefs

Q: My question has to do with: I feel like a black, kinda heavy little space.

B: Black, kinda heavy little space? Very creative.

Q: And it gets in my way of relationships, and…

B: “It” gets in your way! All right.

Q: ... and of surrendering completely to the moment, and to taking all of my power, and just being.

B: All right. May I ask you a question?

Q: Yes.

B: Are you sure? You do not sound too sure that you wish me to ask you a question.

Q: I know. I’m scared to death.

B: Oh, all right. It is all right if you want to be scared to life, too.

Q: Okay. I do.

B: Now, this question simply is: why do you assume that what you are describing actually gets in your way – as opposed to being a part of the path you are choosing to be? Why do you think it is not a part of your path?

Q: Well, I guess that’s what I want to know: what’s the agreement to have that? I want to be… I’m finished with it now. I want to be done with it; I want to be able to let that go.

B: All right.

Q: Different processes...

B: All right. Can you do me a favor?

Q: Yeah.

B: “Yeah.” All right. Can you define it in any more precise terminology than simply the heavy little black space?

Q: Okay. For me, in this “right now,” it feels like Mom, and feels like the unresolved stuff with Mommy... of something. I don’t… (Crying)

B: All right. It can be many of the beliefs you were brought up with.

Q: Yeah, I’m sure that’s what it is. And so I understand all the stuff in your reality being what you created.

B: Yes.

Q: And so I wonder why I get myself right up to that point, up to that wall, up to that window, to whatever, and why I just can’t.. just go through it.

B: Oh, all right. All right. May I ask you? All right, I’ll ask you. Let me ask you this: what do you imagine would happen if you did go through with it?

Q: I guess it comes down to death. I think if I be... or whatever, who I am, or engulf all my empowerment, there’s some idea I won’t be loved. And then if I’m not loved, then I don’t exist. And if I don’t exist, I’m dead or…

B: One moment. One moment. Your definition contains a contradiction. How can you be all you are and not be loved? That is a contradiction; it is not possible. You are made of love. How can you be all you are and not be loved?

Q: Because someone told me that or something.

B: So?

Q: So why do we believe it? Why do we believe it when we’re kids…?

B: I don’t know. Why do you believe it? Why do you choose to exercise your conscious commandment to continue to believe it, even though you know what it is you don’t want to believe in? Perhaps one of the beliefs you have been taught is that it is not that easy to transform it.

Q: Right. It’s always the hard way, the hard way; the hard way is the best way. I don’t want the hard way; I want the easy way. I’m trying to find the easy way.

B: All right. You do not have to try to find the easy way. That’s not an easy way to find it. An easy way to find the easy way is to simply do the things that are representative of what you imagine the easy way to be – regardless of anything you used to believe in.

Also, what may be, in your terms, hanging you up is simply the belief that you have to dig out all of the old beliefs before you can place new ones in. If you simply act upon whatever new belief you prefer to be true for you, it will automatically replace the old one – whatever it was, for whatever reason it was there.

It is also that easy. You do not necessarily have to dredge all the reasons up as to why the old beliefs are there. You may find it difficult to go on, simply because you are standing on the threshold, not believing that just activating the new belief will be enough to cancel the old one – but it is.

Q: Is there any, like, exercise or affirmation or something that can help me let go of this…

B: There are probably 2 million, 578 thousand, 934 of them.

Q: Okay. All right.

B: Now: we could give you any number of them. However, your imagination will always alter it to fit your best understanding anyway. So why not begin with your imagination?

When you say: “Is there an exercise? Is there a technique?” Why not ask your imagination for one? Since your imagination is the primary tool. The reason you have an imagination is for just such a question: “What can I do to change into what I desire to be?” “Imagination: give me a sign; give me a picture; give me a feeling, please.” It always will. It’s the tool that is specifically oriented to the vibration of the person you are. So whatever your imagination gives you will work for you – if you trust it.

So in your picturing of what you would prefer to be, how do you imagine – if you were that person you prefer to be – how do you imagine you would act that is different from what you are doing now?

Q: I would be more active; I would just get things done, boom-boom-boom-boom!

B: Then understand: all you need to do is act that way. And that action will completely cancel any other habits you have.

Q: Okay. So all that stuff about karma with this person or that person or agreements… is really not necessary…

B: Oh, it’s all valid, and it’s all relevant, but in no way, shape, or form does it control what you decide to be now. It is all a part of what brought you to this point, but it has nothing to do with preventing you from being anything you want. You, right now, just by whatever you define yourself to be right now, will change all the focus of all the past connections to validate what you choose to be right now. The past does not control the present; the present is not a result – in a controlling way – of the past.

You define yourself to be whatever you believe you are at any given moment. If you find that a certain linear idea of your past connections no longer serves the definition you prefer to be, why hang on to that connection? Sever it by redefining yourself, and believing in the definition you prefer now. Believing in the definition you prefer now will change your past to accommodate whatever definition you choose to be in the present.

Q: And believing is just your imagination.

B: Just your imagination and your willingness to act, and trust that by acting upon your instincts and following what excites you the most, your physical reality always reflects that certainty back to you – that choice back to you.

That is how the universe works. It works for everyone. No exceptions. It is working for you right now. But it is only reflecting back to you what you are choosing to believe is most true for you. Change your definition, believe in your new definition. Act like you believe in your new definition, and your physical reality has no choice but to reflect your belief, your action, your new definition. That is all it really takes.

Now, if you believe, for any reason – and it does not matter why – if you believe you need a process to acclimatize you into the understanding that it’s all right to believe you’re that powerful, and that it’s all right to believe it’s that simple and that easy, then by all means attract to yourself a process, an exercise – whatever you find most enjoyable, just because you enjoy it. And that will work for you.

Now one exercise, if you wish, that we did share with you of recent times already exists in your tape form, and there are individuals who can refer you to this exercise – which deals specifically with converting fear into power. And if this works for you, use it; if it doesn’t work for you, don’t. The idea is to simply trust that you will attract into your life whatever tool will work for you.

And lighten up on yourself. There is no real heavy, small black thing in your way. Only your assumption that there is something in your way creates there to be something in your way. And the only thing that’s in your way is an assumption that there is something in your way.

That’s it – truly it. Beliefs are what create your apparently solid physical reality. So a solid strong belief in a very lightweight assumption will create that assumption to seem as if it is made out of steel. And it will seem to be immovable, just because that’s what your belief does. It solidifies your assumptions. That’s it.

Q: Is there any purpose in these beliefs? I mean do we manifest these beliefs…?

B: You can extract a purpose from anything. Perhaps, if you wish to keep it simple, the fundamental purpose in experiencing limitation is to recognize that you no longer prefer it. And then you will not be living it.

Q: Oh God!

B: You can keep it that simple. “All right, I’ve been through all of this to recognize now, that by being able to compare the ideas I no longer prefer to what I now know I do prefer, that I went through all this so I would know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what I really prefer.”

Now, the last step is to simply believe that if you act upon what you prefer, that will be, from that point forward, the reality you will experience, plain and simple.

[themaster]

Part 2.. character limitations

Q: So you always know what you prefer – I mean…

B: Yes, you do. You can create a scenario in which it seems you can hide your preferences from yourself. But then, in a sense, to be very basic about it, obviously, at that moment that’s what you prefer to do.

But it is always a matter of conscious commandment. If you are “out of control,” then you are preferring to be out of control. But you are controlling that scenario. So you are never really out of control.

Q: Okay.

B: Simply know that: you cannot be truly out of control. You cannot truly be off of you path, because you are not on a path; you are a path. You can’t be off yourself.

You are who you wish to be; you are what you are. You are the creator of your reality. Prefer what you prefer; believe in it; act on it. You will always get the reflection back of what you truly prefer.

Q: Okay. Thanks.

B: Thank you very much for you boldness.

Also it sounds like magic1's way is part of the 2,578,934

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by TiffyLove

We manifest from our beliefs right. I have some deep limiting beliefs I am working at removing.

"Nothing ever works out for me" in the past (don't want to affirm it more)
"If I want something I know I am not going to get it" in the past
"The universe loves to test me and be hard on me" in the past

I know these are not helping, I know I need to change them and I am working on it but I have been for years.

What other methods and ways work to change or replace limiting beliefs with empowering ones?

Hi TiffyLove,

Can I ask a question?

Do you feel like you have to stop practicing manifesting things, and focus on changing your beliefs before you can start practing again?

Instead of stopping, and trying to change your beliefs first, go ahead and keep practicing for what you want even though you may have these thoughts/feelings.

If the thought, "Nothing ever works out for me" comes while you are practicing, just continue practicing anyway.

Think of it like wanting to go for a swim in a pool, but at first you think it is too cold.

Then you feel that before you can even try, you must first change your belief that the water is not cold in order to do it.

This might take a lot of time, is impractical, and you still find you aren't able to get in.

But by just putting your foot in anyway, even as you have those thoughts, eventually the thoughts melt down, and you get to swim!

The idea is to have those beliefs melt down through by being, active, taking action and having experiences.

Sometimes, a belief needs either action, experiences, or reasonning and evidence in order to change or dissolve.

Know how you are going to re-act long before you have these limiting beliefs.

If the thoughts become uncomfortable, it's ok, that's normal, be soft on yourself.

Each time you have the limiting belief, 'reset' your thinking by just remembering successes from the past, and also for a moment, use your imagination, to imagine - I'm going to get this one, it's going to work!

Or that it already worked and how great you feel as a result.

In your memories, look for a time you had a bit of good luck, and then challenge the belief. Make sure you remember it and use it as a reference against the limiting belief.

Think of the times you did get what you want. Make sure you remember it and use it as a reference against the limiting belief as well.


These are just some tips, I've used them as well, and it worked great for me, but it may not be for you, so please feel free to use the advice from the other posters, they're all good..

Good luck, and take care..

[magic1]

Originally Posted by TiffyLove

magic1,

You mention to focus on developing faith, LOA and faith in the source (I use the term universe, same thing). Do you have any specific ways, exercises, things you did to help you in this process?

I have been working on this as well, I "come" from both "fronts". Working on remembering who I am (divine, source, etc.) while reprogramming the conditioned mind.

However from what you have stated here, It sounds as if you have found that finding faith in source is the most powerful.

Now how to increase that faith, is the question!

Maguru,

I have never thought of it that way. My core beliefs. Deserving is definitely at the root of those.
Thank you

um well I was one of the lucky ones as it came and knocked on my door....1111 (Steve Pavlina writes about it) but anyway so this number turns up in my life years ago...and you could say the rest is history.....

I was literally bombarded with it, I couldn't even leave the room without seeing it about 6 times.....anyway, after some time, I started to get messages with it, and the core of those messages was the importance of faith, and the maintenance of it....hence this started my journey to deeply understand what faith was began

In a nutshell faith asks you to believe in something you can not see....so to even see faith, you have to believe in it before you see it....faith asks for faith first...so maybe start plugging into you a belief that it is possible to develop your faith and intend and ask to be shown.....this stirs the pot and the universe will respond...but you have to be soooo intentful.....you have to break through, your previous wiring that you see this world a certain way...and that it cannot happen.......its a shattering of your own mind to allow for new possibilities........and I know you are spiritual and believe...and I was like that too...but I never really saw on the level I see now.......

Today I see it physically manifest in my life....I get sync's galore...daily...messages, on not so much what to do, but how to feel...I wrote a post of digging up your seed...you should read it, as it highlights how miraculously you can receive guidance...and that post was just that days one! Im literally in overflow of the twilight zone.....

so anyway just for today...ask...make that your new wish...to be shown over the rainbow...want it soooo much and beleive in it and you will break through your own mind and be shown...that's how it operates....


ps also log sync's, and start to think you can GENI-rate more....fake it till you make it...try and believe even if you not sure...this drops the walls of your own mind and more can flow to you.....

essentially the golden rule is if you ask for something in faith it will be given to you.....including faith....

[TiffyLove]

themaster,

Thank you so much for those. And you are so blessed to have such an amazing teacher.




nightdiamond,

Your example of getting into the water, really sunk in for me. It was like one of those moments where the light bulb goes on, thank you perfect example.

Everyone,

Most of the people on here have hit it right on. I have been waiting and waiting for my beliefs to change for my world to change before I even attempt manifesting something else. I don't even take much action, I let the beliefs take me out before I even try. And then I continue to work on my beliefs.

As I have told magic1, it just seems so scary to jump in when the mere idea of jumping in. intending something and taking action on it is what my beliefs tell me now I will FAIL. Because it is something I want, so I KNOW i won't get it. So if just don't act on it, then maybe it will happen by default because I won't push it away too much since I haven't allowed myself to truly want it. I hope that made some sense!

I guess its time I take my tail out from between my legs and jump in.

That is so scary, even to say this. Now I need to figure out specifically how i am allowing this to effect my life and exactly what ways I need to "jump in".

Thank you EVERYONE.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by magic1

so anyway just for today...ask...make that your new wish...to be shown over the rainbow...

After my time 'manifestation' (see the seed-digging thread), the Bruddah Iz <sp?> version of "Over the Rainbow" came to mind. Though it's a nice enough song overall, I don't like the parts where he sings "hy-hy-oooh, ooh-eee-ooooh", so it made no sense for me to dwell on it.... until now

[mej023]

My advice is to ignore reality.

There is no past and there is no future. There is only now. So, if you are going to remember the past, just remember the parts where things did work out for you. If your experience does not include those memories, then make some up (really).

You used to believe that nothing ever works out for you but haven't you noticed that things really do work out for you now?

Look for an Abraham exercise called Segment Intending.

Don't forget that you are spirit having a physical experience.

Remember that a belief is just a thought that you think over and over.

[Jesann]

I have to admit I only skimmed the other responses, so someone might have mentioned this already.

You may have an underlying belief that you can't change your beliefs, that it's difficult to change them, or that it has to take a long time to change them. Try working with those.

Louise Hay (betcha half the board is rolling their eyes and smiling now-- I'm a Hay fan) recently had a daily affirmation on her site: "All of my changes are easy to make." Try using that. Remember that, at least in my reality , enough repetition and concentration on a new belief will drop kick the old one away.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by TiffyLove

I know these are not helping, I know I need to change them and I am working on it but I have been for years.

What other methods and ways work to change or replace limiting beliefs with empowering ones?

NLP, baby!

You can eliminate your limiting beliefs (not to mention your old, stored negative emotions) and build inspiring and compelling new ones in ONE session. You'll look back with with wry amusement afterwards at all those years of straining to be free.

[magic1]

Originally Posted by TiffyLove

themaster,

Thank you so much for those. And you are so blessed to have such an amazing teacher.




nightdiamond,

Your example of getting into the water, really sunk in for me. It was like one of those moments where the light bulb goes on, thank you perfect example.

Everyone,

Most of the people on here have hit it right on. I have been waiting and waiting for my beliefs to change for my world to change before I even attempt manifesting something else. I don't even take much action, I let the beliefs take me out before I even try. And then I continue to work on my beliefs.

As I have told magic1, it just seems so scary to jump in when the mere idea of jumping in. intending something and taking action on it is what my beliefs tell me now I will FAIL. Because it is something I want, so I KNOW i won't get it. So if just don't act on it, then maybe it will happen by default because I won't push it away too much since I haven't allowed myself to truly want it. I hope that made some sense!

I guess its time I take my tail out from between my legs and jump in.

That is so scary, even to say this. Now I need to figure out specifically how i am allowing this to effect my life and exactly what ways I need to "jump in".

Thank you EVERYONE.

Jump don't act....BIG mistake...just allow yourself to believe....................that's it, with no pressure to act......just let what you actually want to simmer in your mind....just plant your seed in you and in the universe.....

[magic1]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

After my time 'manifestation' (see the seed-digging thread), the Bruddah Iz <sp?> version of "Over the Rainbow" came to mind. Though it's a nice enough song overall, I don't like the parts where he sings "hy-hy-oooh, ooh-eee-ooooh", so it made no sense for me to dwell on it.... until now

thanks buddy...lovely intention though....by the way...over the rainbow is a nice metaphor for spiritual truths that operate and too see them you have to believe in them first...

[Inspirations]

TiffyLove,

You have done well to discover some of your inner beliefs. Actually, if you listen to your thoughts and self talk, you get hints about them all.

"Nothing ever works out for me" in the past (don't want to affirm it more)
"If I want something I know I am not going to get it" in the past
"The universe loves to test me and be hard on me" in the past"

We each take on a range of beliefs which become our rules of life to live by, but they were only meant to be temporary ones, until we are ready to create our own majikal ones.

You can access your subconscious mind and resolve/release any dysfunctional belief you decide to with Greene's Release. As soon as you complete the release, the innate, opposite one takes its place. It is actually much easier than people think.

The one way to know if any release has been completed, is to think of the event, emotion, situation and if you feel any emotion at all, besides blank, then you have not done a true release.

Since you seem genuinely interested, I would be happy to show you how it works in a complimentary session. Please email me directly via my website to set it up.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by mej023

Look for an Abraham exercise called Segment Intending.

Yes, I highly agree.. I use this all the time.. (still) abraham is one of my teachers.. so it's clear TiffyLove the 2nd teacher I quoted was Bashar..

While I refer to them as teachers.. I have only read and refer to their materials.. they do not physically teach me.. though I have seen bashar channeled.. I will say your are welcome to become a student or peruser of their materials

[TiffyLove]

Why thank you!

Then I have lots of teachers, too many to name! And it looks like I will be picking up a few more soon!