i keep manifesting what i don´t want...

[Diandra25]

I know...

i must be doing sth really wrong...im just iniciating cause im still reading the Secret but:

What am I doing wrong?

i have this...fear.keeping it simple:i have someone who i love dearly.He has a heavy karma going on with his family.We live apart for 180 miles more or less.

I know we will be happier together here where i live.Life is better,cheaper and with almost no stress.I have a loving and happy family around me. I dont picture myself as being far away from them either.But i love that person who,in turn,also doenst see his "big picture" : that he will fullfill all his dreams here with me.

I want/need/desire that he sees that for himself.Feels.Knows.Understands that while he is there,and keep his karma circle,his life wont improve.

So i thought to work out on this,through the LOA.

Unfortunately,it hasnt been working.He bought an apartment there now. It was the oposite of what i pictured.

Do you think that it is my fear/resistence that is making that reality?

Maybe...the more i picture us together here,the Universe just sees it like " If she needs,then in fact she will just receive the need..." and so my wishes dont come true then?

Am i being selfish?

Can i inverse all that i am dping wrong?

WHat is the right Path here?

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Diandra25

I know...

i must be doing sth really wrong...im just iniciating cause im still reading the Secret but:

What am I doing wrong?

i have this...fear.keeping it simple:i have someone who i love dearly.He has a heavy karma going on with his family.We live apart for 180 miles more or less.

I know we will be happier together here where i live.Life is better,cheaper and with almost no stress.I have a loving and happy family around me. I dont picture myself as being far away from them either.But i love that person who,in turn,also doenst see his "big picture" : that he will fullfill all his dreams here with me.

You are joking, aren't you? Your dreams for him may well be the opposite of his dreams for himself.

I want/need/desire that he sees that for himself.Feels.Knows.Understands that while he is there,and keep his karma circle,his life wont improve.

Is this not you?

So i thought to work out on this,through the LOA.

Unfortunately,it hasnt been working.He bought an apartment there now. It was the oposite of what i pictured.

Do you think that it is my fear/resistence that is making that reality?

Maybe...the more i picture us together here,the Universe just sees it like " If she needs,then in fact she will just receive the need..." and so my wishes dont come true then?

Am i being selfish?

Can i inverse all that i am dping wrong?

WHat is the right Path here?

I have a problem with using LOA to manipulate another. It probably won't work unless there is mutual agreement. Try something purely for yourself that does not involve others. Regards

[Diandra25]

do you see it as manipulating other?

If i picture myself with the person i love,is that manipulating him to do sth he would not want?

i guess it is complicated for me to explain all the complexity of our Stories.

you know when someone you love is suffering,and naturally you want his/her hapiness;and if you know what it is causing that same suffering,it is only natural to look for solutions.the one i thought was that one.

Maybe you are right afterall...and i do not have the right to think this way.

I Apreciatted your opinion.

[SimonaRich]

By the law of attraction you cannot control other people. Of course, you can attract into your experience people that resonate with you, but not any particular person.

Also, you are right by saying that sometimes when you desire something you manifest lack of it instead of the desire itself. This happens because whilst you desire something, you feel lack of it instead of having it, therefore you manifest lack.

[Diandra25]

i guess i have put the wrong words here...english is not my mother language and sometimes i have trouble on putting in words what i want to say.

I do not want or desire to manipulate no one.

Or control.

IM not a bad person,or one of those women who do that.

He is my 1st serious relationship and i do love him and picture us forming a family too.

[Diandra25]

Also...if the person you love keeps telling you almost everyday that it is not happy in the place he/she lives,and wants to get freedom from what keeps turning him down;what else could i wish unless that the same thing i asked for?

So,we can only use the LOA for ouselve´s wishes,then.?

[Angela]

I know we will be happier together here where i live.Life is better,cheaper and with almost no stress.I have a loving and happy family around me. I dont picture myself as being far away from them either.But i love that person who,in turn,also doenst see his "big picture" : that he will fullfill all his dreams here with me.

Diandra, it's not a language problem -- it's that you appear to seeing your want/need/desire to be HIS basis for action. In other words, you want him to do what you want him to do, not what he wants to do.

If you love him, doesn't it make sense to allow him to make his own choices in life, even if you don't like those choices? If you insist on making his choices for him (including by using the law of attraction to *make* him do what you want him to do), is it really him you love? Or is it some potential future idea of him that you love?


It's not so complicated. Evaluate his choices by the actions he takes. If he tells you that he's not happy living 180 miles away from you, but he buys an apartment 180 miles away from you, which information do you think is more important?

[magic1]

learning this stuff takes years....honestly you cannot expect to read the book and presto, many say...I cleaned up my vibration and its still not here....well cleaning up your vibration takes...TIME, mostly years! and then its still not done as we are always evolving... this is not an easy road to travel....and many will give up...thinking it does not work...it does, but to learn it, takes beleif...desire....determination....will power...and many many mistakes. The pay off is glorious though, and you will see magic beyond beleif....keep working on it.....but maybe just not the specific man....

but hey...throw it out to the universe for good measure...you never know your luck!!!!!

[Diandra25]

i´ve already asked myself that same thing...actions are far more important than words...

of course - you are all right:im being unreasonable and childish.I have let my insecurity and fears take the upper hand.

i must let go.And he will do whatever he wants and makes him happier.

Love afterall is much more generous than what i was doing.


it was my fault-i keep seeing all those romantic films and think life could be like that

Magic:

they are right:i shouldnt try to use the LOA for making the person come to me;he has to come only IF it is his own choice.His desire and aim.

What i must do is a little selfish - i must concentrate the LOA in myself:as an individual Soul who came here to evolve and be happy-so i will clean the things i have to,in order to attract good things.

[Eternas]

Can you control a person using the LOA?I never could.But I could create my dream partner.Law of Attraction cant control another human being.Try creating attracting your dream lover Miss Diandra

[Diandra25]

no,we cannot use the LOA for control other´s.

he is my dream lover

i will instead create and wish happiness for the ones i love.

[magic1]

don't even look at if you can use LOA to control another.....it dosnt matter...your right, just learn and tap in to use it for you...perfect...and see what results from that work...lovely stuff...but remember its the journey not the destination, and I will say...the biggest gift of all, a million dollars??................... or the realization that you are soul/spirit and connected to something amazing, I know what Ive chosen....but bugger it, Ive gone for both! ha!

[Diandra25]

Magic

yes i finally understood that my biggest mistake was focusing on other´s will,and not in myself´s dreams.

I have many,many dreams and aims - but they are mostly due to my own depth as an individual: i always thought of myself( even when little child) that sth very big,profound and meaningfull was passing me by,as more as i focused on appearances or other´s views/concepts.

I decided at that time that i would think for myself,had my own system-beliefs and values,and i had counscious that I ( like all the others) was an Unique Soul,but part of the collective.

I write since then,trying to find sth about myself and how i picture the world - so when i started to read the Secret Book and the Conversations with God,i finally was Happy to know that there are an immense group of people that have the courage to shout out their Truths-even if at 1st they seem odd,surprising,defeating the system/society.

And i also pay imense attention to what is deeper,submersed,beyong the surface´s of what exists,of other´s etc.

So i guess i know what you mean by "The Journey" and not so the objective itself.

I know that if i keep truthfull to what i feel,am and aim,there wont exist words to describe the reality i can reach out.

[magic1]

yes...and I promise...there is so much magic on this path...Ive seen it...honestly, physically seen it......but first you have to get connected to source, god, universe......its damn worth it...I wish you the best....you can only go up....

[Diandra25]

Thank You for your words.

[Diandra25]

i guess that i really messed all up cause all that i though was doing right,was afterall...really bad.

So i attracted what i didnt wanted to happen:he is slowly distancing from me.all cause somedays i wish to keep things to myseld and be in my own "circle" ...now he is doing the same to me.

i know better:Real Love knows not selfishness.

[Andrew Brunelle]

I don't know you or your thought process, but the fundamental law of the LoA is to focus on what you want and only what you want always. And if you catch yourself thinking about what you don't want, STOP. Replace that thought with a thought of what you do want. It is very, very challenging. We are so used to our mind running us that it will take a few weeks if not months to get a hang of it. So, keep your thoughts on what you want and never think about what you do not want.

[Diandra25]

Thank You Andrew

my thought processes are...complex have you ever heard about the "Virgoan Insecurity"? it is true -im not myself if im not worrying about sth.I Even discover sth to worry about.its uncounscious and that is why that for me,this process of thiking only what i want...it is slower than of others.

I do know that i´ll get there.Imfeeling a new person inside,as more and more aware i am of all around me.

I started this thread with a very specific idea in Mind - but it only took minutes to people here really dissec this issue,and i started thinking:

-How far can we use the LOA?

-Is it a way of uncounsciously controlling the other,if we want to be with the person or marry for example?If i picture myself with him in a specific place...am I just using my wishfull thinking? Or am I forcing the other to do sth that at first instance,he/she wouldn´t do???

I came to the conclusion that I Can only picture myself being happy with that person beside me.It is natural cause i love him.

But i cannot put all my happiness on that same thing.

[MacFly]

If you have problems with arising negative thoughts, read Tolle's Power Of The Now. It'll give you control. That book is amazing. Basically, all of his books/teachings/videos are about the same thing. It's a whole another world. Like he says, he won't teach you anything, but make you realize the truth. No new belief systems, no new terms, no new things to believe and doubt.

[gerry]

A number of things interfere with the operation of the law. We may conciously desire an outcome that is in conflict with a sub-concious desire.
That being the case, frustration is what is attracted. Self-rigorous honesty is required in these instances. Change the things you are capable of changing, accept the things you cannot change. Don't forget, the law operates to fulfill your highest good, so more may need to be revealed, before it manifests further. Having talked to many people who are equally frustrated by an outcome, I observe that often, they are overwhelmed by wishful thinking. Wishful thinking often comes from trying to satisfy a short term goal at the expense of a long term solution. Learn to trust; all these laws are there to help us attain happiness and fulfillment, so when we think we are not getting what we need, generally we need to detach and let the Power work it out. Sometimes it is only when we look back we can see that what we thought was GOOD for us, was not really the BEST

[Diandra25]

MacFly

thank you - im gonna see if that book is selled here in my Country.i love reading!

GERRY

that is why people tell me to let go and go with the Universe´s Flow - that somehow in the end,all that happens is for our best..

that is not easy though - as all important things in Life.

i geban reading the 1st book of conversations with God yesterday - all that comes across me lately has been helping me a lot:spiritualy and emocionaly.

yesterday to i talked to my bf - he told me that when the moment comes,he would be taking action on what is best for both of us - not that specific answer but he talked about Destiny - that it will be Destiny deciding which Path to take.

Maybe it was also a sign that i must again let go and focus just on myself´s evolution for now.