Asking for signs

[seirwyn]

Have any of you ever asked for a sign that something will happen or that you should be taking a certain course of action?
How did it work out? Are they reliable?
I know someone who reads far too much into everything when there is no connection and I dont want to be like that and get 'led up the garden path.'
I asked to see a blue bird within three days if I was on the right path with hoping for my manifestation and that night I was inspired to go to a craft store. i didnt go specifically to see blue birds (because that would be cheating-like googling a blue bird) I saw a picture of a blue peacock. I didnt see any other blue birds until about two weeks later when I saw another peacock and I havent seen any since (it has been about a month now). I.e. seeing a blue bird is rare for me.
I hope it was a real sign and not a coincidence

[Angela]

I ask my subconscious mind for "signs" and trust myself to interpret them. I don't see signs as external influence, or a message from an entity outside of or separate from myself, but as a communication from the part of me that is most interested in my well-being -- my subconscious mind.

Signals that actually live in my body are wonderful -- like using a pendulum or other muscle indicators, or dreams -- and I do well when I rely on them.

It's also nice to notice symbols that show up -- like your blue birds, or small coincidences, especially if I ask my subconscious mind to give me an unmistakeable message in advance.

I just got one a few minutes ago, as a matter of fact, when bought two books, started reading one and finding that it admiringly referenced the other. There was nothing in the content, advertising, subject, or reference that would have anyone thinking they would be related. (Well, they were both non-fiction books that could loosely be termed "personal development" -- but in vastly different areas.)

I love symbols, and so does my subconscious mind!

[Wax Frog]

If it's me doing it, I sure as sugar would like to know why I find the number 5 so wonderful

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

If it's me doing it, I sure as sugar would like to know why I find the number 5 so wonderful

Ohhhh, me too! I love number 5. In numerology, it's the number of Earth Magic -- leprechauns and fairies and earthquakes and the transfer of personal energies. I am your Five Sister!

[seirwyn]

well 5 is grwat from a magical point of view -what with the five point of the pentagram and 5 elements. but thats probably not why its so important to you

[seirwyn]

Originally Posted by Angela

Signals that actually live in my body are wonderful -- like using a pendulum or other muscle indicators, or dreams -- and I do well when I rely on them.

How do they work? Ive heard of pendulums that balance the chakras ut thats probably not what you mean

[seirwyn]

sorry I might have mis read you-do you mean you do well when you rely on your dreams?

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

Ohhhh, me too! I love number 5. In numerology, it's the number of Earth Magic -- leprechauns and fairies and earthquakes and the transfer of personal energies. I am your Five Sister!

Cool! Maybe you can help me figure it out! [half-kidding]

Originally Posted by seirwyn

well 5 is grwat from a magical point of view -what with the five point of the pentagram and 5 elements. but thats probably not why its so important to you

If you were a Sanskrit/ancient Indian culture scholar, maybe you could work me through Panchak (word for 'five') as well

I should have posted my inquiry here from the get-go; the symmetry of 'manifesting' an answer would please me...

[Angela]

My dreams consistently provide me with fantastic symbols to interpret, that make me laugh, and amaze me with the insight they make available to me. Dreams are like the best kind of magical friend, the kind that brings refreshments.

The pendulum is simply a lovely way to mark out subconscious signals -- you can do a search on NLP pendulum and see some methods and videos for using a pendulum in this way. Again, I also like using my own body, my own muscles, as in programming "yes" and "no" signals into different fingers and then asking my subconscious for it's guidance. It's the same thing -- it's building rapport and trust with your own unconscious mind, which, as I mentioned, has your well-being as it's highest purpose.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Cool! Maybe you can help me figure it out! [half-kidding].

Figure what out, exactly?

[seirwyn]

Originally Posted by Angela

My dreams consistently provide me with fantastic symbols to interpret, that make me laugh, and amaze me with the insight they make available to me. Dreams are like the best kind of magical friend, the kind that brings refreshments.

The pendulum is simply a lovely way to mark out subconscious signals -- you can do a search on NLP pendulum and see some methods and videos for using a pendulum in this way. Again, I also like using my own body, my own muscles, as in programming "yes" and "no" signals into different fingers and then asking my subconscious for it's guidance. It's the same thing -- it's building rapport and trust with your own unconscious mind, which, as I mentioned, has your well-being as it's highest purpose.

wow thats fascinating! how do you program you musclles-or would it be easier for me to google that one? How do you know your subconscious isnt just telling you what you want to hear?

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

Figure what out, exactly?

Why I:

1. As a child, beat my father at the 5 dominoes matches we played one day, getting the double-5 to start each time
2. Had "panchak" come to me, seemingly as an imaginary word sometime during my late childhood or teens, and turn out later to mean 'five'
3. Was given exactly five of a particular kind of object by my young niece, who knew nothing of my interest, in the 'intermission' of a strange day in which a trying and valuable lesson was played out twice*

Add to that the occasional strings of 5's I get now that I'm focusing on this IM/LoA subject daily, and I'm hungry for clues/leads/suggestions.

*This same niece, a mere two days after I'd heard a radio show caller talk about her daughter seeing multicolored sphere-like "fairies", told me out of the blue that she had seen "water fairies" of similar description. The kid's in tune

[Angela]

Originally Posted by seirwyn

wow thats fascinating! how do you program you musclles-or would it be easier for me to google that one?

Google it, and trust yourself to find the perfect methodology -- the one that seems interesting and fun to you.

How do you know your subconscious isnt just telling you what you want to hear?

I know, because I am in deep, loving rapport with my subconscious, and I trust it.

[Angela]

Wax Frog, what is the purpose of knowing "why" these signs are so poignant and vivid and delightful in your life, when you could be focusing on how* they can help you to get the most wonderful and beneficial results in your life, which is what your unconscious mind is standing by, like a happy leprechaun or a sweet fairy, waiting for you to call on it to make all your dreams come true?

*How = by paying attention (not figuring out).

"Why" is for suckers, and you're not a sucker. "How" is for bold generators, and that you certainly are!

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

"Why" is for suckers, and you're not a sucker. "How" is for bold generators, and that you certainly are!

I may not be a sucker, but I'm Crown Prince of the Doofuses*

*must stop manifesting self-ID as "doofus"

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I may not be a sucker, but I'm Crown Prince of the Doofuses*

*must stop manifesting self-ID as "doofus"

That makes me the Crown Princess!

[Wax Frog]

Normally this is where I'd say, "OK, need to come up with a fun '5' experiment", but the very act would be self-defeating. Rote = not fun...

Edit: while I knew it was getting close to 5:55, I did not consciously post at that time; ha ha, very funny Higher Self/Universe/Whatever!

[Angela]

Well, for me, it could be a fun game, not rote but rousing!

For instance: unconscious mind, lead me to a fun, new, pleasurable person to encounter who will make a positive difference in my life, and I in theirs, and lead me to them by pointing me towards a delightful and unmistakeable incidence of fun fives as the signpost. Thank you, unconscious mind!

Very funny about the 5:55!

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

For instance: unconscious mind, lead me to a fun, new, pleasurable person to encounter who will make a positive difference in my life, and I in theirs, and lead me to them by pointing me towards a delightful and unmistakeable incidence of fun fives as the signpost. Thank you, unconscious mind!

That would be more of a paradigm-shatterer in my case than a mere fun thing...

Very funny about the 5:55!

Yeah. I'm itching to move out of manifestation kindergarten though...

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

That would be more of a paradigm-shatterer in my case than a mere fun thing...

Yeah. I'm itching to move out of manifestation kindergarten though...

Maybe it's time to put your manifestations where your mouth is!

What might be possible in your life if you were to shatter that particular paradigm?

As you say in your signature: it's time to stop waffling, isn't it? Why wait?

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

Maybe it's time to put your manifestations where your mouth is!

What might be possible in your life if you were to shatter that particular paradigm?

As you say in your signature: it's time to stop waffling, isn't it? Why wait?

Recently I've had to face myriad fears I'd buried - nope, meditating didn't magically get rid of them, and why would it? It's the fear that's blocking me, if anything. The spontaneity and 'random' possibility of the world make me feel wobbly and profoundly unsafe.

I guess you could say I have a stability addiction, causing me to cling to what I know even though the familiar and comfortable is no longer workable, or will soon cease to be.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Recently I've had to face myriad fears I'd buried - nope, meditating didn't magically get rid of them, and why would it? It's the fear that's blocking me, if anything. The spontaneity and 'random' possibility of the world make me feel wobbly and profoundly unsafe.

I guess you could say I have a stability addiction, causing me to cling to what I know even though the familiar and comfortable is no longer workable, or will soon cease to be.

Ahh. Does this help you to see the "why" around number 5 now? Do you think it's a coincidence that you posted a 5:55 during this thread, or that you encountered your sister the princess of 5 here, now?

What specifically do you fear might happen if you let go of clinging to the familiar, comfortable and no longer (or soon-to-cease-being) workable? "Unsafe" in what way exactly, would you be, if you were present to spontaneity and 'random' possibility?

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

"Unsafe" in what way exactly, would you be, if you were present to spontaneity and 'random' possibility?

Because (according to my presumably false beliefs) I control very little, if I placed myself in any spontaneity-rich situation/environment, things would likely fall apart and become intensely UNpleasant for me in one or many ways. Most likely as a result of my doing something really stupid/ignorant/geeky. Or maybe it would go in a direction my relatively-inexperienced self wouldn't know how to deal with properly.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Because (according to my presumably false beliefs) I control very little, if I placed myself in any spontaneity-rich situation/environment, things would likely fall apart and become intensely UNpleasant for me in one or many ways. Most likely as a result of my doing something really stupid/ignorant/geeky. Or maybe it would go in a direction my relatively-inexperienced self wouldn't know how to deal with properly.

What do you mean by "UNpleasant"? Would someone attach electrodes to your toes and send electricity through your body? Would they take away your children? Might you be thrown in prison? Those would indeed be difficult things for a relatively inexperienced person to know how to deal with properly, and I could see how you might be reluctant to take action in the face of those risks.

[cylon]

Wax sometimes we are so afraid of being "burned" out in the world that in order to avoid that, we create a cocoon that keeps everything out that we can't control.

Then years later you look around and realize that not only have you kept the bad stuff out, but you've kept all the good stuff out too.

And it becomes so familiar that at a certain point, the idea of changing, or doing something differently seems almost impossible because you've been practicing a certain way of life for years and years.

Then you realize that you want out, but you're still scared, so you rationalize why it's better to stay safe and hidden from view. But the whole time the best part of you is nagging at you yelling "let me out I want to see the world!"

Steve's last blog "Leveling Up" has a great way to look at this.

[SarahLuvzYu]

Originally Posted by Angela

My dreams consistently provide me with fantastic symbols to interpret, that make me laugh, and amaze me with the insight they make available to me. Dreams are like the best kind of magical friend, the kind that brings refreshments.

Dreaming is great, I love going to sleep just knowing I'm going into another world.

He-he and speaking of numbers...my lucky number has always been 2, simply because "it's the prettiest number" (well that was my reason when I was 10 LOL)

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

What do you mean by "UNpleasant"? Would someone attach electrodes to your toes and send electricity through your body? Would they take away your children? Might you be thrown in prison? Those would indeed be difficult things for a relatively inexperienced person to know how to deal with properly, and I could see how you might be reluctant to take action in the face of those risks.

Nothing so dramatic, otherwise I'd have used a stronger word. I guess mainly I hate the idea of being looked down on, mocked, outcast, etc., because I'm exposed as some sort of weirdo for being unfamiliar with some things that most folks have already experienced/take for granted. Maybe that's a leftover from my bullied youth.

I know worst-case scenarios seldom come to pass, but I have a vivid imagination, plus a few past stupid faux pas that still sting to think about. Even sometimes when my intentions were good they backfired painfully.

Also, What Cylon Said ®; I'm off to read that entry...

[Angela]

I see. And again I ask: what would be possible in your life if you were to shatter your paradigm and act boldly in the face of your fear? How might you benefit?


(It may look like we're off of your topic, OP, but really it's all signs!)

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

I see. And again I ask: what would be possible in your life if you were to shatter your paradigm and act boldly in the face of your fear? How might you benefit?

(It may look like we're off of your topic, OP, but really it's all signs!)

I could respond in a number of ways, but I'm thinking you're aiming at some specific 'flavor' of answer.

Anyway, the first thing that comes to mind is a single word - unstuck. I'm not sure why I'm here, but I *am* sure I'm not supposed to be fiddling while the Rome of my potential burns, which is mostly what I've done so far.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I could respond in a number of ways, but I'm thinking you're aiming at some specific 'flavor' of answer.

Anyway, the first thing that comes to mind is a single word - unstuck. I'm not sure why I'm here, but I *am* sure I'm not supposed to be fiddling while the Rome of my potential burns, which is mostly what I've done so far.

I am not aiming for any specific flavor of answer -- I'm asking what the benefit of acting in the face of your fear is, so we can see in print here how it stacks up against the cost of facing your fear.

You get to choose, of course! And isn't it starting to look like the universe is lining up to have you move easily and effortlessly towards what you want?