Anyone Else Read "The Attractor Factor" by Joe Vitale from The Secret?

[impaul99]

Yesterday, I was at the bookstore with my brother. I was on my way out when I walked by a shelf that had "The Secret" book. I only watched the movie so I figured I'd pickup the book as well to see if there's any extra distinction in there not in the movie.

On my way to the cash register in a totally different section I was walking by a book totally jumped out and grabbed my attention, called "The Attractor Factor". I picked it up on my way to the cash register and started skimming it. I had no clue who Joe Vitale was until I turned the book around and saw his picture and recognized him from the move The Secret. It was cool, I picked up this second book totally related to the Secret in a totally different section without even knowing it.

I started reading the book yesterday and couldn't put it down. I really liked it. I wrote a review article on it here: The Attractor Factor . Just wondering if anyone else has read it or any other work from Joe Vitale.

[Debra Moorhead]

Paul,

Thanks for posting this. I like your blog - good stuff.

I'm curious as to how you feel about the practice of Feng Shui and the LoA. Complementary? Contradictory? Necessary? Not necessary?

[cylon]

I bought the audio book after watching the Secret, I liked his energy in that program so I decided to look into what he had to offer.

I bought that particular book, because when I was getting my mind around the Secret (even though in the past I was familiar with this stuff), I thought, "this is kind of like Star Trek, where they would go on a planet and weird stuff would happen because of their thoughts..."

Then I started looking at reviews of the Attractor Factor on amazon, and saw that one of the first parts of the book was where he compared the LOA to an old episode of Star Trek. To me it sure felt like a synchronistic thing, so I decided to get it.

[TheColonel]

I've read it. It's got real practical advice in it, as well as some fresh takes on LoA.

I like Joe a lot. His writing style is probably the most readable of all the current PD gurus. He's got a great story, and he's genuinely likable.

I give it a thumbs up too.

[Velvet]

The first half of the book is inspiring and exciting...and I get the sense that his heart is in the right place...

But eventually I felt bogged down by all the log-rolling and references to other websites and product placement. It felt more like reading a magazine with ads than reading timeless wisdom. By the end I was weary of all the different techniques and self-help books he was pushing.

If the Law of Attraction is enough, I don't understand why he'd also be recommending Vedic Yagya's and all that.

I think Lynn Grabhorn's book and Abe-Hicks are simpler and more to the point.

[youcould2]

Good review of the book, Paul. I am about half-way thru the Attractor Factor and have found it to be a good follow-up to The Secret. I've been around long enough to remember the early days of Joe Vitale -- and he has written many things that have helped me over the years.

This is a good book -- I also recommend it.

Shanti,

Ron

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Debra Moorhead

Paul,

Thanks for posting this. I like your blog - good stuff.

I'm curious as to how you feel about the practice of Feng Shui and the LoA. Complementary? Contradictory? Necessary? Not necessary?

Thanks! I have not researched Feng Shui at all yet, so I have no opinion of it at this time. In the world of Personal Development there are so many different things to learn, but Feng Shui is something that hasn't resonated with me as something I need, yet.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Velvet

The first half of the book is inspiring and exciting...and I get the sense that his heart is in the right place...

But eventually I felt bogged down by all the log-rolling and references to other websites and product placement. It felt more like reading a magazine with ads than reading timeless wisdom. By the end I was weary of all the different techniques and self-help books he was pushing.

If the Law of Attraction is enough, I don't understand why he'd also be recommending Vedic Yagya's and all that.

I think Lynn Grabhorn's book and Abe-Hicks are simpler and more to the point.

Yeah, it all also depends on the speed at which you read at. Since I'm a pretty fast reader, I don't mind if a book has some "filler" stuff that doesn't resonate with me right now. He probably mentioned those things because they were important to him in his life. Maybe 5 years from now I might look into those things but right now I just read through them and stored them in the back of my mind for later use if needed.

Not to say that you are one of them, but I know some people that are really slow readers and have heard complaints about authors repeating themselves twice, I guess because it takes so much effort to read a paragraph for some people that if that paragraph is not filled with life changing wisdom, people get upset. For me, the speed at which I devour a book, if there is one sentence that contains "life changing wisdom" for me out of 300 pages I read, I consider it good All I look for is that one small nugget of gold.

I agree, he does go off on a few tangents here and there but mostly the book is very well written. I read it all in one day.

[Velvet]

...that every other page in Vitale's book is an advertisement for something else? And that when you join his newlsetter list you get ads for other products and services almost every day?

I dunno....it seems like crass marketing. He took an idea that works (law of attraction), wrote about it, and uses it as a platform to sell more products and books.

I guess there's nothing wrong with it per se, but it makes me wonder if he isn't just selling a feeling more than an actual philosophy. Reading about LoA makes people feel excited and hopeful, and while we're in that state, we want to buy more products that we think will make us feel that way.

That's not to say that LoA isn't real--I believe it to be true--but I wonder if Joe Vitale is for real. He seems to be all about selling.

And those marketing pitches he sends are all uniform...everyone seems to have read the same book about how to market stuff on the web, using the exact same cheesy techniques, wording, fonts, highlighting, etc.

I guess this makes me sound like a cynic, which I really am not, but I have been around the block with these self-help gurus and I'm a little wary.

[Frans]

Originally Posted by Velvet

...that every other page in Vitale's book is an advertisement for something else? And that when you join his newlsetter list you get ads for other products and services almost every day?

I didn't read this particular book, but as I was involved in Internet marketing (until last year), I know Joe Vitale since years, because he is one of the most famous Internet Marketing gurus.
Knowing his background, it doesn't surprise me a bit that he uses his books as a channel to promote his other ventures.
But, isn't he allowed to do that? Nobody is forced to buy his books.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Frans

But, isn't he allowed to do that? Nobody is forced to buy his books.

Of course he's allowed to do anything he wants, that's not the issue.

And nobody is forced to watch Snakes on a Plane but that doesn't mean it's not healthy to discuss its merits or lack thereof.

I find it off-putting to be told "here's the Law of Attraction, but if that doesn't work, go to this website and pay this aquaintance of mine $4,000 to do some vedic chanting for you."

Do you see how that might undermine the message a little?

I'm not saying Joe Vitale is a bad guy--if you read my first post, I say I think his heart is basically in the right place and his book is inspiring, but it's the other stuff that gives me pause.

[Mann]

Originally Posted by Velvet

The first half of the book is inspiring and exciting...and I get the sense that his heart is in the right place...

But eventually I felt bogged down by all the log-rolling and references to other websites and product placement. It felt more like reading a magazine with ads than reading timeless wisdom. By the end I was weary of all the different techniques and self-help books he was pushing.

If the Law of Attraction is enough, I don't understand why he'd also be recommending Vedic Yagya's and all that.

I think Lynn Grabhorn's book and Abe-Hicks are simpler and more to the point.

Velvet, it's the same what I felt after reading his book. Filler fluff and all those links to other things distracted the prime point of the book in the second half. Further, Joe has given a list of alternative methods to 'get clear', like yagya, etc. All that is not that easy and simple. He should have left his '5 Easy Steps...' straght and to the point... in his natural style of writing.

Mann

[dor]

Originally Posted by Velvet

The first half of the book is inspiring and exciting...and I get the sense that his heart is in the right place...

But eventually I felt bogged down by all the log-rolling and references to other websites and product placement. It felt more like reading a magazine with ads than reading timeless wisdom. By the end I was weary of all the different techniques and self-help books he was pushing..

I felt that way too. His writing style didn't click with me either....though I thought he was pretty good and to the point in the secret. I do think though the concept is pretty straightforward, that you need to absorb it in a number of idfferent ways and mediums, and practice it for it to really sink in...

[JPX]

I sort of feel the same way about Lisa Nichols. After watching her on Oprah's show about The Secret, I went to her website [www.lisa-nichols.com], and on the main page she's offering a free special report "for Oprah viewers only".

So if somebody doesn't watch Oprah, and just stumbled upon her site, they are not entitled?

You also have to input your name and email address in order to view the rest of her website, which I did, and I'm already getting offers to buy her books and CDs. Another example of using guerrilla marketing techniques to sell something that the Universe provides for free.

It seems a little contradictory from what some of the other LoA teachers preach, but I guess everyone has their own way of making a dollar.

[eastcoastgirl]

Originally Posted by Velvet

But eventually I felt bogged down by all the log-rolling and references to other websites and product placement. It felt more like reading a magazine with ads than reading timeless wisdom. By the end I was weary of all the different techniques and self-help books he was pushing.

Velvet, I feel the same. I haven't read his book, but I saw him on Larry King and I've visited his website, and I was a tad put off by his self-promotion. That doesn't mean I won't read his book or that I don't think he has good advice to offer. I guess I noticed that none of the other guests promoted themselves much (or maybe they were more subtle so I didn't notice) but that he did. Someone here said that he's more straightforward in "The Secret," which I haven't seen yet (it's in the mail). The makers of the movie could edit a lot of the self-promotion out. That's good.

[dorothy hanna]

I think Joe Viteli is probably better in person. Comes across better than in writing. I don't need to understand anything more than the LOA. If I start reading lots of other kinds of stuff, it starts to confuse me, like muddying the water. I suppose lots of the other info. is good for some, but since I saw the secret, and the simple messege in it, I can't imagine needing anything more.

There is supposed to be a sequal to the secret. I hope it isn't full of contradictory info. that's gonna tell me lots of other stuff I've got to do, in order for the LOA to work.

I've been recieving more info. from Bob Doyle's site "wealth beyond reason", and it would be a lot more buying, and tapes, and e-books, etc...I haven't bought anything more with the exception of an e-book, from Joe Viteli, about "Seed Money", and it was only $20.00, but I wish I had that money back, as it has the same idea of tithing in order for any money to start coming back your way. I tithed for years to church, and charities etc...and nothing changed until I watched the secret, and learned about the LOA.

Don't get me wrong, Joe was great in the movie, and getting the idea across, but I felt like since I didn't fork over a lot of money to get Bob Doyle's tapes, they shuffled this lower grade stuff my way, like I'm a simplton. I bit, and am now disappointed in what I got, as far as the "Seed Money", book, but that's all it took for me to just go back to the secret, as I was/am having good results with just that. I'm tithing into myself from now on. Since making that switch, I've had a lot better results.

I got a lot better results having donated to Steve Pavlina.

I've also got questions about having to believe in the LOA, in order for it to work, as I didn't even know about the LOA before, and yet it is at work all the time whether you know about it, or believe it or not. I think/feel, I only need to know it exsists, and work with the internal guidance system that lets me know if I'm on, or off course to my weel-being. That's what I'm going with. Feeling good.