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Power · 03-11-2009, 04:17 AM

I have a fun, fascinating and cool presentation to help you understand this simple concept on a deeper level.

It will hopefully make you aware, understand and apply the powerful concept of manifestation/intentions by shaping your thoughts and how you view your world.

Take the 5-10min exercise and post your replies if you were able or unable to achieve the exercise. Any comments of what you think about the exercise? Did it shift your understanding? Or was this exercise a complete waste of time?

click here: Self improvement exercise

Wax Frog · 03-11-2009, 04:28 AM

Already posted, several times

I can make her do all manner of gymnastics (though it makes me a bit queasy)

SarahLuvzYu · 03-12-2009, 04:03 AM

HAHA! I did this last night with my sisters.

It used to only ever be able to turn it anti-clockwise(or was it clockwise?) last year, but I guess all this physics I've been doing I can now make it go any way me wants

Anti is supposed to be you using your right brain and not-anti using your left side of the brain (or the other way around...I can't remember lol). Whether this is true or not I really don't care, it's just cool making the lady turn whatever way

I'm glad you posted this so thanks

Wax Frog · 03-12-2009, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SarahLuvzYu

I can now make it go any way me wants

Even chorus-line kicking, facing toward or away from you? That's my favorite...

SarahLuvzYu · 03-12-2009, 04:56 AM

Hells yeah

bbdream8 · 03-12-2009, 07:06 AM

I can't make it turn the other way round. No matter how I see it, it is spinning in the clockwise direction.

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Errol Santos · 03-12-2009, 08:24 AM

A long time ago, I've spent hours on this women (lol that sounds funny). But I can never make her go the other way, I only see her going clockwise. Is that a bad thing?

Diandra25 · 03-12-2009, 08:06 PM

i see her spinning clockwise

i stared and wasnt able to see her the other way around...I guess i didnt reached the right level yet

liamona · 03-12-2009, 08:22 PM

I think I looked at her too long. I feel dizzy!

jeff3 · 03-12-2009, 09:09 PM

For those who cannot make her change directions:

Put your hand in front of your face about 6-8 inches and position it so you can only see a millimeter or two of the top of her head. You'll find that, with just a little trial and error + patience, you can see that small portion of her head turning in the direction you wish it to be, then slowly move your hand down and you'll see that her whole body is turning that way. If you tend to only see clockwise she may change quickly when you first move your hand, but, with just a little practice you will be able to just sit and "will" her to turn the opposite direction.

Enjoy

Eternas · 03-20-2009, 01:57 PM

What is the exercise for?

Diandra25 · 03-20-2009, 02:59 PM

i thin it is for us to exercise our Mind - on changing one reality to other.just byt the power of thoughts?

wolfgang · 03-20-2009, 03:22 PM

I wouldn't get too carried away with this rotating girl being an exercise that makes life changes in you. As a metaphor about how we fill in missing information with our minds, just maybe.

It's just that the rotating girl is missing a dimension. It only has 2 dimensions - up/down and left/right. It is missing front/back. That is where your mind can decide how to interpret the missing dimension. That front/back dimension is what would carry the info about which direction she is turning.

I was able to interpret two girls spinning in opposite directions at the same time, moving through each other kind of.

vMike · 03-20-2009, 03:36 PM

It's just a simple optical illusion, what's so life changing in it?

Angela · 03-20-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vMike

It's just a simple optical illusion, what's so life changing in it?

The person with the most flexibility has the most influence. This simple optical illusion is a tiny metaphor for and exercise in being supple in moving between perspectives with volition. As you become more and more powerful in changing how this image occurs for you, you become more and more powerful to transform the way the world occurs for you.

Wouldn't it be nice to change how reality occurs for you, at will? Wouldn't it be great to feel the way you want to feel, anytime you want to feel it?

TheSceptic · 03-20-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Wouldn't it be nice to change how reality occurs for you, at will? Wouldn't it be great to feel the way you want to feel, anytime you want to feel it?

Until reality hits you like a brick wall ofcourse

Angela · 03-20-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSceptic

Until reality hits you like a brick wall ofcourse

Great example! TheSceptic has a "reality hits you like a brick wall" perspective, and that is how the world occurs for him. (I think you are a guy, right, The Sceptic?) From his perspective, that really is *real* that reality hits you like a brick wall, of course, sooner or later. And of course, it would have you seeing *brick walls* of reality hitting people left and right.

That is exactly how it is for some of people you might see commenting on sites that feature the spinning ballerina: there are quite a few people who say things like, "You idiots! YOU don't change the direction she appears to spin; it's built-in! They are messing with your minds -- they are FOOLING you! You THINK you're affecting what happens, but really, someone else is in control! Ha ha! You nincompoops! Get a grip on reality!"

Once in awhile, you'll see the same commenter later say, "oh, wait, yeah...... I guess you're right ... it IS an illusion, and I CAN make her go the other way by shifting my perspective. Oops." And sometimes the person who sees it only one way gets madder and madder, as he insists that he is the only sane mind in a sitefull of delusionaries. "It's for your own good that I try to show you that you are wrong and powerless in this matter!"

It's a wonderful metaphor, the spinning ballerina.

dancer · 03-20-2009, 05:35 PM

Can anyone make her stop spinning?

Angela · 03-20-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dancer

Can anyone make her stop spinning?

Sure. Just close your eyes.

JMononoetoe · 03-20-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSceptic

Until reality hits you like a brick wall ofcourse

Not really. Your experience is often a reaction to reality, and how you react to it is your choice. It always is.
As you progress further you will learn not to react to reality, but to choose with reality being the output which you will observe, but not react to.

dancer · 03-20-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Sure. Just close your eyes.

You got me, but not quite what I meant.

moonrambler · 03-20-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Sure. Just close your eyes.

You rock.

moonrambler · 03-20-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Great example! TheSceptic has a "reality hits you like a brick wall" perspective, and that is how the world occurs for him. (I think you are a guy, right, The Sceptic?) From his perspective, that really is *real* that reality hits you like a brick wall, of course, sooner or later. And of course, it would have you seeing *brick walls* of reality hitting people left and right.

This is interesting, and I'm only feeling open to it because of the explanation of SR from iampaul which I found here.

It pisses me off, though, but I'm willing to play around with this, because I just experienced it for myself. It's almost like a person must leave skepticism behind in order for the skeptic events to stop happening in one's life. So if in the back of my mind, I'm always saying, "Well, but what about somebody who was going on with the LoA idea just fine and then reality hit like a brick wall?" perhaps I'm setting myself up for that as well.

Boy, that's one big leap of faith though.

Angela · 03-20-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by moonrambler

So if in the back of my mind, I'm always saying, "Well, but what about somebody who was going on with the LoA idea just fine and then reality hit like a brick wall?" perhaps I'm setting myself up for that as well.

Sure. The presupposition in that kind of thought sounds to me like:
"There's the LoA and whatever possibilities are available to me, and then there is the *real* reality -- you know, moonrambler, the one that hits you like a brick wall."

Whatever you believe is the *real* reality, at an unconscious level, will trump whatever *trial* realities you're playing with. And that *real* reality is what's going to determine how the world occurs for you.

What if you were to notice that what's really *real* is what's occurring for you? And what might happen if you were to notice that you are actually able to transform what occurs for you, right now, and so change what's really real? It makes me think of the mind/body connection: your mind runs the functions of your body, and your body affects your mind. Which comes first? Maybe both, maybe neither. Does it matter? What if it's all One, and we can get the results we want through either perspective? That would be great, isn't it? *

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Boy, that's one big leap of faith though.

You betcha. Leap.

*@ TheSceptic: I know, I know.... until reality bites me in the butt!

moonrambler · 03-20-2009, 07:41 PM

So if you're creating your own reality, why do you keep creating all these skeptics?

Angela · 03-20-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by moonrambler

So if you're creating your own reality, why do you keep creating all these skeptics?

Because I am brilliant!

I LOVE skepticism, and I love skeptical people. I can totally related to them, and to the process of resisting. They ARE me in a way that's very easy for me to see.

Among other very fun reasons that I invite skeptics into my world's occurring is that skeptics present me with an opportunity to express whatever perspective I'm using at the moment, to really hear, see, and feel that expression outside the bones of my own head. Plus, skeptics make me laugh a lot.

Maybe you have noticed that I mostly engage only with the very well-spoken skeptics, the ones who are thoughtful, and who express themselves brilliantly and delightfully? You won't see me participating very often in a conversation here with a person with terrible communication skills. I prefer the Douglas Fairbanks-style swashbuckling skeptic!

Wax Frog · 03-20-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Sure. Just close your eyes.

Or you could do a screen capture

Wax Frog · 03-20-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Whatever you believe is the *real* reality, at an unconscious level, will trump whatever *trial* realities you're playing with. And that *real* reality is what's going to determine how the world occurs for you.

This is straying back into "Wax Paradox" territory - if paradigm-shifting experiences emerge from new beliefs, how can you then generate new beliefs with no experiences to base them on? Annoying old inner-skeptic still hasn't gotten an entirely satisfying answer to that one (which is why I have him in the corner playing with crayons

).

[Note: my initial post time was 5:07, but I actually didn't complete my rewrites until 5:11!

]

Angela · 03-20-2009, 11:56 PM

Again, it's like the mind/body connection. Does thinking confident-feeling thoughts help your body stand up straight and tall, or does standing straight and tall help you to feel and think confident? It works in both directions.

Wax Frog · 03-21-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Again, it's like the mind/body connection. Does thinking confident-feeling thoughts help your body stand up straight and tall, or does standing straight and tall help you to feel and think confident? It works in both directions.

Ah, but the feedback is direct and unambiguous. How to get past the temptation to explain things away in regard to syncs, IM and such, where the relationship might not be so concrete, at least for a beginner?

03-11-2009, 04:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
Power Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 209	1 simple concept that will change your life I have a fun, fascinating and cool presentation to help you understand this simple concept on a deeper level. It will hopefully make you aware, understand and apply the powerful concept of manifestation/intentions by shaping your thoughts and how you view your world. Take the 5-10min exercise and post your replies if you were able or unable to achieve the exercise. Any comments of what you think about the exercise? Did it shift your understanding? Or was this exercise a complete waste of time? click here: Self improvement exercise

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Diandra25 Family Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,072	i cannot i see her spinning clockwise i stared and wasnt able to see her the other way around...I guess i didnt reached the right level yet

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03-11-2009, 04:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
Wax Frog Legendary Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Going from Somewhere to Elsewhere Posts: 10,374	Already posted, several times I can make her do all manner of gymnastics (though it makes me a bit queasy)

03-12-2009, 04:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
SarahLuvzYu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 525	HAHA! I did this last night with my sisters. It used to only ever be able to turn it anti-clockwise(or was it clockwise?) last year, but I guess all this physics I've been doing I can now make it go any way me wants Anti is supposed to be you using your right brain and not-anti using your left side of the brain (or the other way around...I can't remember lol). Whether this is true or not I really don't care, it's just cool making the lady turn whatever way I'm glad you posted this so thanks

03-12-2009, 04:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
SarahLuvzYu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 525	Hells yeah

03-12-2009, 07:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
bbdream8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 294	I can't make it turn the other way round. No matter how I see it, it is spinning in the clockwise direction. Vincent Personal Development Blogger

03-12-2009, 08:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
Errol Santos Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 9	A long time ago, I've spent hours on this women (lol that sounds funny). But I can never make her go the other way, I only see her going clockwise. Is that a bad thing?

03-12-2009, 08:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
liamona Family Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,460	I think I looked at her too long. I feel dizzy!

03-12-2009, 09:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
jeff3 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: AR Posts: 863	For those who cannot make her change directions: Put your hand in front of your face about 6-8 inches and position it so you can only see a millimeter or two of the top of her head. You'll find that, with just a little trial and error + patience, you can see that small portion of her head turning in the direction you wish it to be, then slowly move your hand down and you'll see that her whole body is turning that way. If you tend to only see clockwise she may change quickly when you first move your hand, but, with just a little practice you will be able to just sit and "will" her to turn the opposite direction. Enjoy

03-20-2009, 01:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
Eternas Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 25	What is the exercise for?

03-20-2009, 02:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Diandra25 Family Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,072	i thin it is for us to exercise our Mind - on changing one reality to other.just byt the power of thoughts?

03-20-2009, 03:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
wolfgang Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,566	I wouldn't get too carried away with this rotating girl being an exercise that makes life changes in you. As a metaphor about how we fill in missing information with our minds, just maybe. It's just that the rotating girl is missing a dimension. It only has 2 dimensions - up/down and left/right. It is missing front/back. That is where your mind can decide how to interpret the missing dimension. That front/back dimension is what would carry the info about which direction she is turning. I was able to interpret two girls spinning in opposite directions at the same time, moving through each other kind of.

03-20-2009, 03:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
vMike Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 462	It's just a simple optical illusion, what's so life changing in it?

03-20-2009, 05:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
dancer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 522	Can anyone make her stop spinning?

03-20-2009, 07:41 PM	#25 (permalink)
moonrambler Family Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: N.E. Wisconsin Posts: 3,473	So if you're creating your own reality, why do you keep creating all these skeptics?

03-20-2009, 11:56 PM	#29 (permalink)
Angela Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22,520	Again, it's like the mind/body connection. Does thinking confident-feeling thoughts help your body stand up straight and tall, or does standing straight and tall help you to feel and think confident? It works in both directions.

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