Did she MANIFEST a cheating husband?

[pyrogen]

Question for y'all... this is actually someone I know.

A woman I'm acquainted with, manifested a husband. She in fact wrote a book about manifesting your mate, in easy steps. She has stood behind this book.

The thing is, in the years since manifesting him, the husband in question had two affairs.

How may she have *intended* someone who would have affairs, even if "faithful" was in her list? What are some ways this could've happened?

Just curious. Thinking about my own lifemate LOA work too.

[cylon]

Attraction to men who she (subconsciously) sensed would be unfaithful.

[stellamaris5]

Unconciously , she focused on having a husband that will not cheat, so her energy was focused on 'cheating' and that's exactly what she got.

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by stellamaris5

Unconciously , she focused on having a husband that will not cheat, so her energy was focused on 'cheating' and that's exactly what she got.

Is this how abused women end up with abusive partners time and time again or wives-of-alcoholics end up divorcing Alchy Husband #2, #3, etc...

And is it how I've had the same things "missing" and same complaints about all of my relationships - I'm focusing too much on that pattern?

There was a point at which I *didn't* have that issue, when I was younger, then I was in the first unsatisfying relationship then soon enough all those that followed had that pattern.

I am treating this with NLP techniques.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Is this how abused women end up with abusive partners time and time again or wives-of-alcoholics end up divorcing Alchy Husband #2, #3, etc...

That and the fact that women can be extremely attracted to this type of man.

Just look at that Rhianna girl. She didn't get involved with that psycho because she was really hoping to meet a guy who was not abusive. She got involved because she was attracted to something in his personality, and the way he treated her. Not because he was the opposite of what she resonated with.

He was what she resonated with. That's why they vibrated into each other's experience. And apparently, she's going to stay with him after what happened.

But it's always easier to think it's the other persons fault. Always easier to think of yourself as a victim.

[ilrein]

You tend to find a way to explain everything with manifestation.

Why not just accept that this lady friend of yours was unable to satisfy her husbands needs, whether emotional or physical, or both?

How may she have *intended* someone who would have affairs, even if "faithful" was in her list? What are some ways this could've happened?

Going back to the idea of manifestation however, she may have intent to have drama in her life, or something similar, which would project itself outwards in such a fashion.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by ilrein

Why not just accept that this lady friend of yours was unable to satisfy her husbands needs, whether emotional or physical, or both?
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I guess that was the elephant in the room, I didn't want to bring it up. Our intentions can change, our results can change because we change.

Originally Posted by ilrein

Going back to the idea of manifestation however, she may have intent to have drama in her life, or something similar, which would project itself outwards in such a fashion.

I tend to think it's this though. Obviously that's an intention that would never be conscious. No one knowingly seeks pain. But our unconscious desires and issues are where we get all our results from.

[TheSceptic]

Originally Posted by stellamaris5

Unconciously , she focused on having a husband that will not cheat, so her energy was focused on 'cheating' and that's exactly what she got.

Do you guys and gals seriously approach other people and even your (supposed) loved ones in this manner? As commodities to be "manifested" to your desires? As objects that exist for your pleasures? Where's the PERSON in all this?

Really, the idea that a law of attraction would work on other persons is an ugly thing. Rather, try to live by one of the ideas put down by the philosopher Kant: always also treat a person also as a goal in itself, and never as just a mere means. In manifesting a specific kind of partner, you treat him or her as just a mere means to get what you want. This is NOT a good thing.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Question for y'all... this is actually someone I know.

A woman I'm acquainted with, manifested a husband. She in fact wrote a book about manifesting your mate, in easy steps. She has stood behind this book.

The thing is, in the years since manifesting him, the husband in question had two affairs.

How may she have *intended* someone who would have affairs, even if "faithful" was in her list? What are some ways this could've happened?

Just curious. Thinking about my own lifemate LOA work too.

read Judge's new thread "I Am God".

it's simple. if you believe in IM, LoA, you believe that EVERYTHING that's in your reality is manifested by YOU. So this is no question if a certain thing is intended by you or not. end of the story.

if you don't, then you believe your thoughts/intentions/emotions/etc.. don't
have real effect on the world out there. end of the story.

we just want to manifest the money/car/house/soulmate, but we don't really like when someone tells us that the pain/suffering/dept/illness was also our product.

[stellamaris5]

Originally Posted by TheSceptic

Do you guys and gals seriously approach other people and even your (supposed) loved ones in this manner? As commodities to be "manifested" to your desires? As objects that exist for your pleasures? Where's the PERSON in all this?

Really, the idea that a law of attraction would work on other persons is an ugly thing. Rather, try to live by one of the ideas put down by the philosopher Kant: always also treat a person also as a goal in itself, and never as just a mere means. In manifesting a specific kind of partner, you treat him or her as just a mere means to get what you want. This is NOT a good thing.

To answer your question from my point of you, no I don't approach anyone in this manner, so apologies for the miscommunication and not being clear enough.

All I am saying is that in this universe there are laws in place that are working just the way gravity works.

So , UNCONSIOUSLY, the way you are, the way you dress and everything esle will attract a certain kind of person/s into your life.

How come some people are always meeting angry people and have fights with others while , I , for instance, can't remember the last time I had a fight/argument with someone. It's the energy that shapes lives and everything that goes on in it, it shapes the context of your life within which content happens.

So , if you can create a consious decision of what you want (rather than avoiding what you don't want) and practice it , so it becomes unconsious, you will manifest this content in your life.

Love, freedom and self-expression.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Question for y'all... this is actually someone I know.

A woman I'm acquainted with, manifested a husband. She in fact wrote a book about manifesting your mate, in easy steps. She has stood behind this book.

The thing is, in the years since manifesting him, the husband in question had two affairs.

How may she have *intended* someone who would have affairs, even if "faithful" was in her list? What are some ways this could've happened?

Just curious. Thinking about my own lifemate LOA work too.

The husband is a reflection of herself. She needs to ask herself "how am I cheating on me in this moment?" Everything else is just a story to explain why such and such happened.

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by TheSceptic

Do you guys and gals seriously approach other people and even your (supposed) loved ones in this manner? As commodities to be "manifested" to your desires? As objects that exist for your pleasures? Where's the PERSON in all this?

Actually, I pretty much brought this up as a philosophical dark alley. Was curious to see what all the sides of the argument would be. I don't know what to think of it, myself.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by stellamaris5

How come some people are always meeting angry people and have fights with others while , I , for instance, can't remember the last time I had a fight/argument with someone. It's the energy that shapes lives and everything that goes on in it, it shapes the context of your life within which content happens.

Absolutely.

[TheSceptic]

Originally Posted by stellamaris5

To answer your question from my point of you, no I don't approach anyone in this manner, so apologies for the miscommunication and not being clear enough.

Well, apparently I misread you, so my apologies as well

Originally Posted by stellamaris5

All I am saying is that in this universe there are laws in place that are working just the way gravity works.

So , UNCONSIOUSLY, the way you are, the way you dress and everything esle will attract a certain kind of person/s into your life.

I think I understand this, and I know what you are talking about. For example, when I feel happy and good about myself, total strangers tend to smile at me and even approach me. Some other days, when I am feeling down, nobody seems to notice me at all.

Originally Posted by stellamaris5

So , if you can create a consious decision of what you want (rather than avoiding what you don't want) and practice it , so it becomes unconsious, you will manifest this content in your life.

Do you think there are practical limits to what you can "manifest" in this way? Or is anything possible?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by TheSceptic

Do you guys and gals seriously approach other people and even your (supposed) loved ones in this manner? As commodities to be "manifested" to your desires? As objects that exist for your pleasures? Where's the PERSON in all this?

Actually I have a lot of respect for the people who appear in my life. Why? Because I believe that there are no accidents.

Each of them is my manifestation. Each of them has appeared in my life for a reason. In some cases, the reason may be small, in some cases the reason may be big. But in all cases there is a reason. (You might say that in my reality, each person is sacred, in his or her own way).

And the reason for the person's arrival in my reality has something to do with me.

I think that in the end, this is why all religions and spiritual teachings advocate that you should love others. They are all part of your own consciousness, you see.

You may not know exactly how you manifested them, but you manifested them anyway.

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My experience is that when you change your personal thoughts about a person, then something in reality will change. Either the person will drop out of your life, or his role in your life will change; that is, he will behave differently to you, or you will behave differently to him; a feedback loop ensues and things change.

Also, the kind of people who typically inhabit your reality are drawn by your thoughts. The specific person may come and go; but as long as your thoughts stay roughly constant, a similar sort of person will come along and take his place. In other words, the pattern keeps replaying itself.

[stellamaris5]

Originally Posted by TheSceptic

Well, apparently I misread you, so my apologies as well



I think I understand this, and I know what you are talking about. For example, when I feel happy and good about myself, total strangers tend to smile at me and even approach me. Some other days, when I am feeling down, nobody seems to notice me at all.



Do you think there are practical limits to what you can "manifest" in this way? Or is anything possible?

That's something I don't have the answer to , however, looking at the nature of the universe I don't believe there can be a limit, remember, the universe began out of nothing.

If you come from nothing, everything is possible. If you operate from the past, you are not operating form nothing but selfimposed limits.

[pyrogen]

ALG -

Something I've realized recently is that the person in question, *knew* that the man she married might have that propensity, but swept it under the carpet/never addressed it.

One fallacy of some manifesters I see happening is... "Oh, I manifested it. Everything will work out perfectly."

Unless you THOUGHT of everything, and who can, you always have to keep calibrating. If you get given a car, you still have to kick the tires.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by cylon

Attraction to men who she (subconsciously) sensed would be unfaithful.

[pyrogen]

Cylon - actually, she had no previous experience whatsoever with unfaithful men.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Cylon - actually, she had no previous experience whatsoever with unfaithful men.

I think she was intuitive enough to tell what type of guy she was dealing with. Face it, she went for the bad boy. Shock of the century.

[pyrogen]

But he was hardly the "bad boy". If you all met him you'd uphold him as a fine upstanding example of a good man. His cheating shocked EVERYONE when it got out. And women often considered him the "nice guy" and he didn't get that many breaks.

One does not need to be a "bad boy" type to be unfaithful.

[cylon]

Shocked everyone but the girl who married him who knew he had that "propensity".

[pyrogen]

Shocked her, too.

Mind you, there's always Madonna/Whore complex. Even women have it. She sort of cast herself in the light of the asexual matriarch figure after they got married, and when you make yourself the Madonna you're bound to have them rely on you for being the Madonna but they'll still need a Whore.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Shocked her, too. .

It shocked her AFTER she swept it under the rug?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

Unless you THOUGHT of everything, and who can, you always have to keep calibrating.

Yup, you always have to keep calibrating. On the other hand, as long as you're alive, you'll be thinking anyway. So I guess you could say that the calibration process is just part of being alive.