Sexual fantasies

[Jthorn]

I wonder how does LoA work with sexual fantasies? Do you attract what you fantasize about?

[Jthorn]

I think this make it very interesting on the issue of rape...noone?

[Acting Like Godot]

It's an old question ... you can use the search engine to look up the past threads discussing this.

[pyrogen]

IMO fantasies don't usually manifest because they're fantasies, not intentions.

Suppose you fantasize about a threesome. What are you putting out in the universe? Your want of a menage a trois, not the existence of it.

Meanwhile... you INTEND a threesome... as already being in existence...

Suddenly your friends start opening up to you about their adventures, or introducing you to sexually adventurous people, or you get invites to things where a more sexually adventurous crowd might hang out. Or - just as likely - you start to become aware of "threesome-friendly" people who have already been in the periphery of your awareness.

[sean83]

If this was the case I would of had a foursome with Elisha Cuthbert, Scarlett Johansson and Jessica Alba.

[mindfulconstruct]

I've always viewed LOA with one huge disclaimer: the higher good for all.

Meaning, you won't be able to will something into existence that goes against someone's consent or in spiritual terms, their higher good.

This would be a good thing, because it protects the free will of others.

[timothydrake]

Originally Posted by sean83

If this was the case I would of had a foursome with Elisha Cuthbert, Scarlett Johansson and Jessica Alba.

I would add Jessica Biel and ... bbl bathroom.

[jeff3]

I recently had one cum true!

[Jthorn]

Originally Posted by mindfulconstruct

I've always viewed LOA with one huge disclaimer: the higher good for all.

Meaning, you won't be able to will something into existence that goes against someone's consent or in spiritual terms, their higher good.

This would be a good thing, because it protects the free will of others.

Aah.

But what if you fantasise about being raped? Do you bring it upon yourself?

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by Jthorn

Aah.

But what if you fantasise about being raped? Do you bring it upon yourself?

What if I fantasize about having sex with Brad Pitt? Do I bring it upon myself?

If that's the case, I must be doing it wrong

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by Jthorn

Aah.

But what if you fantasise about being raped? Do you bring it upon yourself?

At the risk of being controversial, if you research this topic, you'll find that this is featured as a top fantasy in many women. But even sex psychologists will tell you it is simply that. A fantasy that stays in the realm of fantasy. It has nothing to do with those women actually wanting to enact it in real life.

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[pyrogen]

I don't think women are actually fantasizing about the reality of violent rape so much as they are about someone being dominant and overcoming their inhibitions/taboos to give them what they deep down already want.

Remember, for practically forever, "nice girls didn't".

So, IMO, the rape fantasy is about fantasized domination, not about really about fantasized rape. Just the fact that it's a fantasy shows that the woman is controlling the scene and how it takes place.

[Power]

Originally Posted by Jthorn

I wonder how does LoA work with sexual fantasies? Do you attract what you fantasize about?

No.

The brain and the heart produces electromagnetic signals. When you meditate, your brain produces a certain electromagnetic frequency. When you are in a state of sexual fantasy, your brain's electromagnetic frequency is different compared to when you are meditating.

When you visualize a sexual fantasy the heart rate increases. The electromagnetic frequency of the heart when meditating is different when you are in a state of sexual fantasy.

The bottom line is that you are at the wrong vibrational frequency for manifesting what you are visualizing.

[MancsAdonis]

I think when your fantasizing...that all you're doing, fantasizing. However when you're intending....that's another story

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by Power

No.

The brain and the heart produces electromagnetic signals. When you meditate, your brain produces a certain electromagnetic frequency. When you are in a state of sexual fantasy, your brain's electromagnetic frequency is different compared to when you are meditating.

When you visualize a sexual fantasy the heart rate increases. The electromagnetic frequency of the heart when meditating is different when you are in a state of sexual fantasy.

The bottom line is that you are at the wrong vibrational frequency for manifesting what you are visualizing.

Interesting. My take on it has been that fantasies actually can stand in the way of manifesting the thing, most people fantasize from a place of "lack".

[Bradshaw]

Originally Posted by Power

No.

The brain and the heart produces electromagnetic signals. When you meditate, your brain produces a certain electromagnetic frequency. When you are in a state of sexual fantasy, your brain's electromagnetic frequency is different compared to when you are meditating.

When you visualize a sexual fantasy the heart rate increases. The electromagnetic frequency of the heart when meditating is different when you are in a state of sexual fantasy.

The bottom line is that you are at the wrong vibrational frequency for manifesting what you are visualizing.

This is an excellent point of view.

[Self Help Junkie]

Originally Posted by Power

No.

The brain and the heart produces electromagnetic signals. When you meditate, your brain produces a certain electromagnetic frequency. When you are in a state of sexual fantasy, your brain's electromagnetic frequency is different compared to when you are meditating.

When you visualize a sexual fantasy the heart rate increases. The electromagnetic frequency of the heart when meditating is different when you are in a state of sexual fantasy.

The bottom line is that you are at the wrong vibrational frequency for manifesting what you are visualizing.

Would it then be a good idea for a guy to visualize sexual fantasies after sex? As he would not get that arousaled? This may be a dumb question but imma total LOA-newbie.

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by Self Help Junkie

Would it then be a good idea for a guy to visualize sexual fantasies after sex? As he would not get that arousaled? This may be a dumb question but imma total LOA-newbie.

This may not even be a "guy" thing because I am a girl. But I abstain from any kind of sexual behavior (I use thought stopping/switching techniques to deal with random fantasies) when I am trying to build up energy for an energetically based empower/release type of manifestation. This is not a moral thing. It's that sex (including mind sex), to me, tends to drain my emotional batteries. When I've been doing a lot of fantasizing I feel just as drained/emotionally flat/low on chi, prana, whatever as I do after real sex. I do a lot of energetically-based work, and need to keep the energy high when there's a goal I'm working on. I need the energy to go into my manifestation - if I indulge in (mental OR physical) sex behavior when I'm trying to build energy toward a goal, it's like taking the gasoline out of your car, digging a hole then pouring the gas into the hole, and trying to start your car.

Mind you, one thing you can do IS use orgasm as the "release" of the energy. And I DO use sex as a distraction sometimes AFTER I do a working, as a way to avoid "digging at my seed" (I LOVE that expression) after it's been planted.

And I really need to do some homework and make a blog entry on the long, slow empowerment type of manifestation (vision boards, daily visualizing, etc) versus the short/quick "build energy then release" type (which is what most spellwork is). I actually use a combination of both. I don't use vision boards the way a lot of people seem to (which is to say, they use it as a form of sympathetic magick), I use them to help me clarify my vision. I build up energy over a period of time - say, two weeks, or a whole cycle of a month - then I do a ritual to release it.

Mind you, this is for longer term stuff like finding a better house, finding a better job, making a group of friends, finding a mate, etc. Not for lost keys, needing a job when you've just become unemployed, or needing to raise the rent money ASAP.

[SarahLuvzYu]

Originally Posted by Power

No.

The brain and the heart produces electromagnetic signals. When you meditate, your brain produces a certain electromagnetic frequency. When you are in a state of sexual fantasy, your brain's electromagnetic frequency is different compared to when you are meditating.

When you visualize a sexual fantasy the heart rate increases. The electromagnetic frequency of the heart when meditating is different when you are in a state of sexual fantasy.

The bottom line is that you are at the wrong vibrational frequency for manifesting what you are visualizing.

Meditate and intend what you want sexually then

[bluedragon]

Originally Posted by Jthorn

But what if you fantasise about being raped? Do you bring it upon yourself?

I think it is more likely that you will bring a partner who likes bondage - much better than the other option.

[Eternas]

It works let me tell you a story about what I created.I remember I wanted to get a sex partner.A girl who would only like sex sex and more sex.I after that did visualization for a month.Then one day I was introduce to a beautiful woman by my friend,she seem to like me so I took her out on dates.After that things went pretty fast.No flowers no dates but sex tons of it.But as time went on my lust for her began to fade strangely however her sex drive was so vibrant and demanding that every hour we had sex.She demanded sex soo much I felt my dick would burst.
After for a while I felt we had gotten nowhere and I felt a bit bored about the relationship,no intellectually stimulating conversation,no love,just sex.It ended after 8 months.What started in sex ended in sex.

[timothydrake]

Rape? Just watch some Hentai.

[jayh]

I hesitate to post too much on this here since it is a public forum (cough, cough)... But I have put out intentions for specific things to take place sexually with my wife. This helped me build up the courage to talk about it with her when the time was right, and then lo and behold, my intention came true. That's one way it can work.

If you intend to have sex with someone you desire and you believe it is possible, then put out the intention, focus on it on a regular basis, and then go do something about it - get to know the person, ask them out, whatever...

If you intend to have sex with a celebrity and truly think it is possible, then you first have to meet the celebrity, get to know them etc.... Intentions don't always manifest overnight - it takes work... But it does work if you do it right and don't give up - just relax!

[Power]

Originally Posted by jayh

If you intend to have sex with someone you desire and you believe it is possible, then put out the intention, focus on it on a regular basis, and then go do something about it - get to know the person, ask them out, whatever...

If you intend to have sex with a celebrity and truly think it is possible, then you first have to meet the celebrity, get to know them etc.... Intentions don't always manifest overnight - it takes work... But it does work if you do it right and don't give up - just relax!

So true Jayh People just don't understand this part of manifesting. They think to visualize and that's it.

LOA and intentions will bring you the circumstances. It will bring you to the door of opportunity. You yourself have to walk through the door. It will bring and create the bridge to your wildest dreams and desires, but you gonna have to walk over the bridge yourself.

LOA and intentions will bring you to the door and the bridge, why don't people do anything once they are right in front of their dreams?

It's because of fear, laziness, lack of confidence, negative thinking, procrastination, indecisiveness, etc...

[elisabeth]

Originally Posted by jayh

I hesitate to post too much on this here since it is a public forum (cough, cough)... But I have put out intentions for specific things to take place sexually with my wife. This helped me build up the courage to talk about it with her when the time was right, and then lo and behold, my intention came true. That's one way it can work.

If you intend to have sex with someone you desire and you believe it is possible, then put out the intention, focus on it on a regular basis, and then go do something about it - get to know the person, ask them out, whatever...

If you intend to have sex with a celebrity and truly think it is possible, then you first have to meet the celebrity, get to know them etc.... Intentions don't always manifest overnight - it takes work... But it does work if you do it right and don't give up - just relax!

I think you're making a really important point here: in order to manifest something, it's generally necessary to think it's within the realm of possibilities!

For most people, Brad Pitt is pretty darn unlikely, or so they think, and voila! Self-fulfilling prophecy...

But if you truly believed it could happen, the chances might increase.

Of course, there's free will involved as well, as someone pointed out.

But the general idea I think also plays a role. Ditto with winning the lottery,
becoming a millionaire, etc. The more we think it's not possible, the less
likely it is to happen.

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by jayh

If you intend to have sex with a celebrity and truly think it is possible, then you first have to meet the celebrity, get to know them etc.... Intentions don't always manifest overnight - it takes work... But it does work if you do it right and don't give up - just relax!

I was kidding of course. I prefer to have sex with Brad Pitt in my dreams. That way I can make him into whatever I want him to be, and make him do whatever I want him to do. The real him could be a disappointment....He he......

[mindfulconstruct]

Originally Posted by Jthorn

But what if you fantasise about being raped? Do you bring it upon yourself?

To answer that question would require an actual science of the LoA. You would first need to know that it *was* the fantasy that caused the situation, and it wasn't just a correlation -- there would be a lot of things to factor out before you could be certain that it was in fact your fantasy brought about the actual incident.

At present, science won't go near investigating the mechanics of LoA, at least not mainstream science. And most people of New Age conviction try to oversimplify its mechanics -- so this talk about how it works is speculation, theory.

I think the point about fantasizing being different from intended visualizing is interesting to think about. Would the LoA work off of mental thoughts alone? Or heart-centered ones (ones that are more linked to emotions)?

BUT, that also opens questions about the subconscious. If LoA is true...then does it operate on subconscious thoughts differently from conscious ones?

[Red Wolf]

It works for me. I used it on one woman about 2 weeks ago. I met her in January, and I had interest in her but I didn't let her know that. I kept saying to myself "I am going to pull her". She actually came on to me, and I got with her 2 weeks ago when she came in town! But unfortunately I think I sabotaged myself because I concentrated so much on hoping nothing would mess this up, but guess what? It did. I still slept with her, but so much stuff happened after that, we wound up not seeing each other anymore!

So I think if you visualize it, it can happen, but you have to think it, and let it happen, cause if you dwell on it, the negative somehow seeps out into the universe if you have any doubts about it. Especially if you have a woman and you are thinking about cheating but have a conscious!

Rod Wolf

[Power]

Originally Posted by Power

No.

The brain and the heart produces electromagnetic signals. When you meditate, your brain produces a certain electromagnetic frequency. When you are in a state of sexual fantasy, your brain's electromagnetic frequency is different compared to when you are meditating.

When you visualize a sexual fantasy the heart rate increases. The electromagnetic frequency of the heart when meditating is different when you are in a state of sexual fantasy.

The bottom line is that you are at the wrong vibrational frequency for manifesting what you are visualizing.

Just wanted to add also... When you enter sexual fantasy, your brain would trigger the release of Adrenaline in your blood stream (this is what makes the heart beat faster).

When manifesting, we are to induce the emotions of love, peace, joy, happiness (positive emotions) and not angry, hateful, scared/fearful (negative emotions). And guess what, whenever you are angry, hateful, or fearful, your heart is most likely beating fast.

During sexual fantasy and exercising the heart rate increases. Even though they are connected with some wonderful sensations and feelings, they are at the wrong state for manifesting. Thousands of centuries the Masters documented and passed on their knowledge about the LOA. There are no records that says an increased in heart rate is the best state for manifesting.

What are the Masters' orders? (Close your eyes, take a deep breath and relax! Inhale 1... 2... 3... exhale 1... 2... 3... you are in state of love, peace and happiness.) They induce a slower breathing to induce a lower heart rate, which reduces tensions and increase positive emotions... as well to induce you in the proper state.

This is too clarify what I meant by being in the wrong vibrational frequency. But of course, you can master sexual fantasy without getting aroused and that you are at the proper frequency for manifesting your fantasy

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by Jthorn

But what if you fantasise about being raped? Do you bring it upon yourself?

If you want to be raped, isn't it then consensual, and therefore no longer defined as rape?

Somehow I've attracted two nymphomaniacs in my recent past. I definitely had no intention to! I did nothing with them. My ego didn't mind the attention though.