My dog died,is there a way to rescue him?

[Jack]

My dog died today
I tried to visualize-imagine he is still living after i had the news that he died,but when i went,he was really dead

Is there anything i can do for him to bring life to him?

I think, now i just want to sleep and never get-up again,never,if i can have enough courage i can take pills why not...

[Erin Pavlina]

Jack, I'm sorry for your loss. Losing someone you love is heart-breaking.

You can't bring him back from the dead, but if you really want to bring life to him then you will honor him by remembering him, being kind to other animals just like him, and if and when you feel ready perhaps rescue another dog from the shelter. Even if you can't bring him physically back to life, he will always be with you in your heart, and your happy memories of your time together will live on as long as you live.

[The Animus]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

Jack, I'm sorry for your loss. Losing someone you love is heart-breaking.

You can't bring him back from the dead, but if you really want to bring life to him then you will honor him by remembering him, being kind to other animals just like him, and if and when you feel ready perhaps rescue another dog from the shelter. Even if you can't bring him physically back to life, he will always be with you in your heart, and your happy memories of your time together will live on as long as you live.

So LOA/IM is NOT all powerful?

Or is someone going to tell this poor guy that it's his fault his dog died, that he didn't visualize hard enough or believe strongly enough to save it?

[Shaden]

'sigh'

I find the people who believe in subjective reality and actively support it tend to have a lot of difficult questions to answer from non-believers. It's all their own fault really for creating a belief so groovy and open

I am really sorry to hear about this happening to you Jack. When I was a young boy I went through a similar experience. I can sympathise with what you're going through. I think we all can.

[Erin Pavlina]

He believed it was possible for his dog to die. What happened to him does not violate the law of attraction. When you are part of a subjective reality it doesn't mean that your life is suddenly perfect and that nothing bad ever happens to you. Sometimes what appears to be a negative event is a precursor to something you are trying to manifest.

For example, let's say you want a new car but can't afford it. One day you are in a car accident and your car is totaled. You even are injured. The insurance from the other guy is such that you end up buying a brand new car. Manifestation doesn't always occur the exact way you want or expect it to.

[The Animus]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

He believed it was possible for his dog to die. What happened to him does not violate the law of attraction.

Sure, but you just told him he can't bring back the dog from the dead.

So, IM is limited by an objective wall.

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by The Animus

Sure, but you just told him he can't bring back the dog from the dead.

So, IM is limited by an objective wall.

Since you imply you believe in an objective reality in which dogs can't be rez'd by intention, then yes, you're absolutely correct. In your reality (which from your standpoint is the only one that exists), IM will indeed be limited by an impregnable objective wall. As long as you maintain that belief system, your wall will be totally solid, and you'll never see dogs come back to life.

[The Animus]

Ok, can you resurrect dogs??

Clearly this boy is in distress-- why didn't Erin tell him to keep visualizing and intending for his dog to come back? If you can cavort around in an entirely subjective reality, then why dissapoint him so?

If those who believe in subjective reality are not bound by objective walls, then surely that would have been better advice.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by The Animus

Ok, can you resurrect dogs??

Clearly this boy is in distress-- why didn't Erin tell him to keep visualizing and intending for his dog to come back? If you can cavort around in an entirely subjective reality, then why dissapoint him so?

If those who believe in subjective reality are not bound by objective walls, then surely that would have been better advice.

Because you are the only one who has the free will to decide what is and what isn't allowable in your subjective reality, not anyone else. A traumatic event like a pet dying is not the best time to offer such advice.

Sorry to hear about your loss Jack.

[Frans]

Originally Posted by Jack

My dog died today
I tried to visualize-imagine he is still living after i had the news that he died,but when i went,he was really dead

Is there anything i can do for him to bring life to him?

Isn't it obvious that by stating that everything is possible with I-M, you attract people who want to realize the impossible?

Who will be the first die-hard I-M believer who admits that there are boundaries that never can be trespassed without violating laws of nature (in this case the second law of thermodynamics: "The entropy of an isolated system can only increase or remain the same. It cannot decrease.")?

[thef0x]

Originally Posted by The Animus

Ok, can you resurrect dogs??

Clearly this boy is in distress-- why didn't Erin tell him to keep visualizing and intending for his dog to come back? If you can cavort around in an entirely subjective reality, then why dissapoint him so?

If those who believe in subjective reality are not bound by objective walls, then surely that would have been better advice.

I'd like to interject and say that 1) "The Animus" you're being intentionally offensive, which no one here respects I'm sure, and 2) clearly the Law of Attraction has SOME complications, in general it being a fantastic way of understanding the reality we communicate/create/construct.

While I'm never one to complain about an argument (as I enjoy them), you clearly have no intention of listening to the ears of those people with whom you discuss.

Making people upset is not a rational way of getting them on your side of an argument.

am I making sense? Animus I found your posts uncalled for. Please consider your words more carefully before you expound in such a manner.





To the owner of this thread, a way to instill life in your dog is to embrace him in your memories.

We all offer our best wishes to you and your family.

[Markus74]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

He believed it was possible for his dog to die.

So in a sense he killed his dog? And his grand-parents probably too.

Woaw ...

[ChefSalad]

I think everyone has been trolled by the original poster. Come on now, "Bring my dog back to life."? This guy is getting your goat.

And besides, who do threads like this benefit? No one. That's right, they don't benefit us who are using IM/LoA, and they don't benefit the original poster. They just spread anger and doubt, two things no one really needs.

[Maxwell]

This thread literally frightens me. There are a lot of things I'd like to say but it doesn't seem kind to say them at this moment. I'm sure some other people are thinking the same thoughts I am.

Anyway, its sad to hear your dog died. I have had a few great friends who passed away as well whose memories I cherish to this day. Please try to take comfort in realizing that every life is great for exactly what it is. Every life will end, regardless of if you believe it my friend, that is part of the beauty that is life.

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by The Animus

Ok, can you resurrect dogs??

Not in your reality, which from your perspective is the only one there is.

[Steve Pavlina]

Originally Posted by Markus74

So in a sense he killed his dog? And his grand-parents probably too.

Woaw ...

From your perspective (i.e. your belief system of objective reality), it would be more accurate to say that the laws of your universe are responsible.

[DanielBrenton]

Jack --

Subjective reality stuff aside, my wife and I have both experienced a presence with us in our home occasionally which my wife finally identified as a cat of hers, D.C., that died about seven years ago.

They're still with us.

[Shaden]

This thread literally frightens me. There are a lot of things I'd like to say but it doesn't seem kind to say them at this moment. I'm sure some other people are thinking the same thoughts I am.

Agreed.

What's incredible is how people are willing to use a thread dedicated to the life of a dog as a means to argue about the existence and reliability of a subjective reality. That worries me more then anything - regardless of the fact that the original poster was looking for answers. I'm dissapointed - people should have comforted Jack and left it alone for the time being. There is a time and a place.

[The Animus]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Because you are the only one who has the free will to decide what is and what isn't allowable in your subjective reality, not anyone else. A traumatic event like a pet dying is not the best time to offer such advice.

read the title of the post. He wants to rescue his dog. Clearly he's gotten the idea somewhere that if he visualizes and intends hard enough then his dog will come back to life.

So where does IM in a subjective reality leave us? The best consolation would be to tell him to keep visualizing and let his dog come back to life.

[Blaine Moore]

Not following I-M myself, the vast majority of this thread does not really interest me. What does interest me is that not a single person has mentioned the end of his post:

Originally Posted by Jack

I think, now i just want to sleep and never get-up again,never,if i can have enough courage i can take pills why not...

Jack, I doubt that your dog is worth killing yourself over. I recommend against it. There are other ways to cope with loss than by taking drugs.

[Maxwell]

Originally Posted by Blaine Moore

Not following I-M myself, the vast majority of this thread does not really interest me. What does interest me is that not a single person has mentioned the end of his post:



Jack, I doubt that your dog is worth killing yourself over. I recommend against it. There are other ways to cope with loss than by taking drugs.

To many of the posters here, jack's life (or death) will depend on thoughts, so it doesn't really matter to them.

[Blaine Moore]

Originally Posted by Maxwell

To many of the posters here, jack's life (or death) will depend on thoughts, so it doesn't really matter to them.

I know. But I do not follow intention manifestion, and it surprised me that that comment was completely ignored up to this point. Which is why I felt I should point it out.

[Shindra]

I believe that collective beliefs, the beliefs of many people, influence individual reality. People in general believe that you cannot resurrect the dead.

IF it is possible to go against the beliefs of so many people, you can resurrect the dead if you believe in it fully, completely, a belief so strong you see it as knowledge.

If you believe in life after death, I recommend an easier path - attract to you ways to develop the ability to see/sense dead beings. Perhaps in lucid dreams or out-of-body-experiences/astral projection, if that seems easier to you than doing it in physical reality.

I believe that we are more than our bodies, life is eternal and your dog has not really 'died' as much as transferred to another place, which might be called heaven. You can be glad for the love your dog gave you while it was in this physical reality with you, and, if you believe in heaven or a similar place, glad that it is in a good place now. You can also take as long a grieving period as you need, but know that this pain is not who you are and who you will be forever - let it pass, and honor your dog with happy memories.

Namaste
Shindra

[Brutha]

So where does IM in a subjective reality leave us? The best consolation would be to tell him to keep visualizing and let his dog come back to life.

Nobody of those people who belief in the LoA here says that visualizing leads to the belief change that is necessary for the dog to come back to life.
The fact that they are subjective walls doens't mean that visualing alows him to go through the wall.

Who will be the first die-hard I-M believer who admits that there are boundaries that never can be trespassed without violating laws of nature (in this case the second law of thermodynamics: "The entropy of an isolated system can only increase or remain the same. It cannot decrease.")?

The second law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with dying dogs.
The dog is no isolated system.

To many of the posters here, jack's life (or death) will depend on thoughts, so it doesn't really matter to them.

Thoughts matter to those posters you speak about.
If you thinks thoughts are the only thing that exist, everything that matters are thought.

[Maxwell]

Originally Posted by Brutha

Thoughts matter to those posters you speak about.
If you thinks thoughts are the only thing that exist, everything that matters are thought.

Could you elaborate? I am not understanding you.

[rono]

I think Erin and the other kind souls who reached out to Jack personally had the right idea in comforting him rather than just exploiting the thread to debate belief/disbelief in LoA.

Jack, losing a pet can be every bit as painful as losing a family member or friend. It's very natural to mourn your loss but don't look at your dog as the be all and end all of your life. You can and will be happy again. Much love to you.

[Frans]

Originally Posted by Brutha

The second law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with dying dogs.
The dog is no isolated system.

FYI: It's not a dying dog, it's a death dog, a carcass.

See the evolution of a carcass after 1 day, 1 week, 1 month.
The entropy increases. You don't have to have a medical degree to see this.

[Frans]

If you are serious about personal development, stop giving people false hope.
It won't help them and it won't help you.

Every living being will die eventually, no matter in which reality model you believe.

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by Frans

Every living being will die eventually, no matter in which reality model you believe.

That's not true.

[Frans]

Originally Posted by Michael Chui

That's not true.

OK. I'll rephrase that:

What has a beginning has an end, no matter in which reality model you believe.
Do you agree with this statement?