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Old 10-24-2008, 02:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have received, by PM, some questions & comments from a fellow forummer. One question was as follows:

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I see you seem to know about the LOA. Do you feel confident you can manifest anything you desire?
The short answer is that I do not feel confident that I can manifest anything I desire. As a matter of fact, I am very sure that I cannot manifest everything I desire.

Many people confuse (1) the existence of the Law of Attraction, with (2) their ability to consciously use and apply it. Perhaps an analogy will be helpful.

You have a body. There are many things that you can do with it. However, there are also many things which you cannot do with it, that some other people can. For example, you might not be able to swim the butterfly stroke; dance the flamenco; balance on a tightrope; perform a somersault; climb a mountain or carry a heavy boulder.



You might not even be able to bend down and touch your toes.

So it is with the Law of Attraction. You have a mind. With it, you can shape reality. You can even consciously shape reality. But how consistently, reliably and powerfully can you do that? That depends on your skill and ability with your mind.

This skill and ability with the mind can be improved and developed. In this sense, it is analogous to improving and developing your body, say, through regular physical exercise. It is also similar to analogous some specific physical skill (eg a slam dunk in basketball).

All these processes, with mind as well as body, take some practice, some dedication and some discipline. Conscious creation with the LOA may therefore be regarded as a skill. All of us have it to some degree, but that degree is something that we can expand and grow.
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks ALG, but im not sure I understand. I thought anything was possible with the LOA. I thought one could manifest 100k if he wanted to.

Are you simply saying that you must first have the total belief you can manifest 100k before you can? Are there limits to what someone can manifest?
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Yes of course there are limits to your ability to consciously create.

Anything is possible, if you have perfect control of your mind. Of course no one has perfect control of his mind.

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Old 10-24-2008, 04:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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so if I cannot create the things I want (the big things) like a new car, riches and fame then in my mind the LOA isnt that great.

I know these things wont make anyone truely happy if they are not, but I still have goals. I mean im not expecting to do something crazy like grow 2 inches taller when im fully grown or something here.

Im almost certain I will be rich and famous, I have already moved to Hollywood a few months ago and did really well in stand up comedy and even was on a local comedy show that air in La, Santa Monica and Hollywood. Plus my internet business is growing.

Im pretty sure I will reach my goals, I just thought the LOA could speed up the process or help it.
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You miss the point.

There is no way you can do anything, and there is nothing you have ever done in your life, and nothing has ever happened in your reality, except by the LOA.

And if you seek to do more, or better, or differently, that shall also be by the LOA.

So the issue is - how adept are you, at using the LOA consciously?

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By analogy, your comment is something like saying, "I'm pretty sure that I can run fast, I just thought that my body could help me do it."

There is in fact no way to run, except by using your body. However, to run fast, you need to train your body.

Similarly, you can change your reality, by using your mind. However, to be able to make a big change to your reality, you need to learn to make a big change to how you use your mind.

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Many people confuse (1) the existence of the Law of Attraction, with (2) their ability to consciously use and apply it.
Nice.

One thing I've rarely seen addressed is the notion that we exist in a co-created reality; therefore, there is probably cumulative effect for events common to a population, and cancelling effects for manifestations strictly affecting individuals.

That, or the common reality is an illusion within an illusion and "literally" different for each individual.

A while back I failed at a lottery thing...my psychologist friend pointed out that many other people were also intending something there...

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Aha.

Individuals do co-create realities. Nevertheless nothing enters a particular individual's reality, unless he has attracted it. That includes co-creators.

For example, suppose there is a teacher. Then there is a student. Together they co-create a certain reality - for instance, the reality within a certain classroom where they meet everyday. It is the thoughts of both the teacher and student lead to the arising of events within that classroom. Thus we say that the teacher and the student are co-creators.

Nevertheless it was the teacher who attracted this particular student into the teacher's reality. And it was the student who attracted this particular teacher into the student's reality. As the Zen saying goes, "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear." The flip side, of course, is that when the teacher is ready, the student will also appear. They draw each other.

Finally it is important to note that while teacher and student are co-creators of a certain reality, they do not necessarily experience that co-created reality similarly. What goes on in that classroom is co-created by the two parties. Nevertheless their experience is different. The teacher gets a teaching experience. The student gets a learning experience. Both may interpret their respective experiences quite differently. For example, the teacher may find the events in the classroom quite interesting. The student may find the events quite boring.

In fact, if there are 30 students in the same class, each of them neverthless experiences the reality of that classroom differently. Some may enjoy the lesson; some are indifferent; some hate it; some understand it; some don't.
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Makes perfect sense to me.

It is a skill. It takes time to practice and train and improve. We also have many limiting beliefs within ourselves. I know I do!! I also would love to create a million dollars instantly into my life! That just flat-out can't happen because I hold a ton of limiting beliefs when it comes to large sums of money. I am working on them, but they are so ingrained in me, it just doesn't disappear overnight. Practicing gratitude for every penny I find and hold has helped, though. "I always have what I always need." I am actually starting to believe that thought.

You can't just say or think things. It's about what you feel deep inside. The feeling behind the words/affirmations matter way more than the words. You can sit and say things all day long yet feel lack, feel desperate, feel lowly ~ then people get mad when "loa doesn't work." It just doesn't work by saying things.

Anyway, all that to say, I totally get it, and that analogy makes perfect sense, ALG.
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Individuals do co-create realities. Nevertheless nothing enters a particular individual's reality, unless he has attracted it. That includes co-creators..
OK. I'm buying that model in that specific type of example. I could easily throw in a wrench over intentions being at cross-purposes in other situations (if I'm teasing it down far enough), but why confuse the issue.
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ok I get what you are saying. You have to treat it like a skill. You got to know you can do something without a doubt, and honestly I dont think I can make 500,000 appear out of nowhere.

So I have to start out small and collect the proof for more belief power and work my way up. Sounds good to me
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and honestly I dont think I can make 500,000 appear out of nowhere.

So I have to start out small and collect the proof for more belief power and work my way up. Sounds good to me
Why don't you start by saving money? Put a certain percentage of your income into an account? And then stick to that commitment.
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Why don't you start by saving money? Put a certain percentage of your income into an account? And then stick to that commitment.
Holy wow, the synchros are coming full steam for me this week. About 30 seconds ago I posted to another fellow about setting up an auto transfer to put money in to my savings account every paycheck. That way you need do nothing and probably won't miss the money.
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fellowtraveler,

I know what thread you are talking about. And I also posted a reply in that thread. Maybe I got the idea from you?

funny how these things happen. What do you think that means?
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ok I get what you are saying. You have to treat it like a skill.
Right. It's like the Harry Potter movies, you know? Everyone can do magic. Some can do it better than others. All can learn to do it better. You can even take lessons in it.
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Right. It's like the Harry Potter movies, you know? Everyone can do magic. Some can do it better than others. All can learn to do it better. You can even take lessons in it.
Is there anything on the Net? Where I can take lessons? I live in a small country with no resources - courses, seminars.... Or are the exercises in your thread The LOA Experiment (DIY) enough?
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I know what thread you are talking about. And I also posted a reply in that thread. Maybe I got the idea from you?

funny how these things happen. What do you think that means?
I think ideas are out there floating around and more than one person can be tuned to a particular frequency at the same time. I also believe that information can be channeled to us in a lot of different ways, including through one another. Sometimes we are able to see that happening and it is neat.
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Individuals do co-create realities. Nevertheless nothing enters a particular individual's reality, unless he has attracted it. That includes co-creators.

For example, suppose there is a teacher. Then there is a student. Together they co-create a certain reality - for instance, the reality within a certain classroom where they meet everyday. It is the thoughts of both the teacher and student lead to the arising of events within that classroom. Thus we say that the teacher and the student are co-creators.
I definately believe in LOA, and the fact that it is working in my life all the time, but I do have trouble understanding the co-creation part of it. The example of the student and teacher is easy to get, but when you get into larger groups of people it gets more difficult. For example, right now there are two teams playing in the World Series. There are many fans on both sides that passionately want their team to win, not to mention the players, mangers, etc. themselves, but of course we know that only one of those teams will win the series. So is it that all the fans on one team manifest a win, while all the fans on the other team manifest the loss?
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