Lucid dreams to create Reality?

[cssc]

Has anyone tried to use lucid dreaming to manifest physical reality? I'm googling some words but I've got 3 million results & haven't found an article that really addresses this topic directly yet....

[richloaguy]

I have dabbled with this concept. I usually have several methods of visualizations going so its hard to gauge where the success comes from.

Lucid dreaming for me involves staying up all night. I then sit (so i dont sleep), and focus on a scene(s) . eventually the characters pop to life. Thats an overview of how i do it in case we have some curious bystanders.

It is kind of fun, and I tend to think about being hugh hefner etc, (because I can). I will try a blue feather experiment with it though and give feedback.

OOps.... I have been talking about the "blue feather experiment" in several forums this morning.

I looked up as i put in that word "feedback" 2 sentences ago and poof I noticed a dream catcher across my room that has 6 white and blue feathers on it. lol

how's that for synchro.

wayne

p.s. i'll try somethin else for lucid dreaming

[Wax Frog]

I'm resurrecting this thread because it's a notion I've had in the past, reawakened (pun intended) by reading a recently-published lucid dreaming book by Robert Waggoner. I'm going to try like I never have before to induce lucid dream(s), and see if I can get some answers while in that state. Yep, I intend to consult the Creative Force aside from egoic me that hypothetically lies behind the dream. Get some answers. Wish me luck

[Matiasfx]

Ive been thinking about this concept for some time now.

I read in a lot of places and from diferent people that the best way to manifest your intentions its when you declare your intentions into an alpha/theta brain wave state, so i thought:

"Whats the best moment in which you are really into alpha/theta that when you are sleeping and really relaxed? it "should" work great to set an intention while you are lucid in a dream.

Of course im not sure if this is possible or if it can work, but i think it worth trying....... to bad im not yet an advance lucid dreamer.

I Would also love to read comments and opinions about this idea

Mat

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Matiasfx

Of course im not sure if this is possible or if it can work, but i think it worth trying....... to bad im not yet an advance lucid dreamer.

Neither am I, but I have had a few, and they were pretty remarkable. I'm totally open to the possibility, and hopeful, that this 'realm' is something more profound and effective than just a nocturnal playground.

[Angela]

What a fun idea! My lucid dreaming practice has been sort of unfocused -- I've just been sort of fooling around in there, and what has come up in my dreams has been phenomenal! Party every night!

You have inspired me to play with operating in my dreams to generate some physical manifestations in my waking life. I have a couple of things in mind, including some powerful passions as well as something that should be very easy to spot: a brand-new red Strida bike! Wouldn't it be nice to have a brand-new red Strida bike? For some reason, that thought just tickles me to no end.

[Wax Frog]

I hope you're successful; any and all inspiration is desirable

[dyakub]

every time that i read up on lucid dreaming i wind up having one the following night, setting intentions in this state is kinda difficult for me as OBE sensations are experienced after lucidity is realized.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by dyakub

every time that i read up on lucid dreaming i wind up having one the following night, setting intentions in this state is kinda difficult for me as OBE sensations are experienced after lucidity is realized.

Ah, to have problems like that! All I got for my efforts last night (I suspect due to putting too much pressure on myself) was a lot of tossing and turning

[Angela]

Last night I wanted a brand-new red bike to show up, but I got two babies instead. Drat.

I have a feeling the two babies are a good omen, though.

not as good as a bike

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

Last night I wanted a brand-new red bike to show up, but I got two babies instead. Drat.

I've read some pretty amazing things on this board, but that is Guinness record stuff

Seriously though, I just got an email from a pal with more experience in this than I. She claims it does work but that diligence is needed.

[Angela]

Right after I wrote that post about the good omen, I spilled an entire cup of coffee with grounds and filter and everything all over my kitchen -- splat!!

Two babies is maybe not such a good omen?

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

Right after I wrote that post about the good omen, I spilled an entire cup of coffee with grounds and filter and everything all over my kitchen -- splat!!

Last night I spilled a tall glass of milk. Thanks to you I can now take it as a message to be grateful for my relatively non-messy choice

[Angela]

Yeah, I think that is a sign of abundant and overflowing milk of human kindness all over your life.

Mine was more about being "grounded." Or maybe it's something about "inspiring ways of beans."

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

Yeah, I think that is a sign of abundant and overflowing milk of human kindness all over your life.

Mine was more about being "grounded." Or maybe it's something about "inspiring ways of beans."

It's a shame we weren't colliding at the time - could've ended up with a yummy variant on the old Reeses PB Cup ads (though the thought of getting scalded in the process isn't fun)

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

It's a shame we weren't colliding at the time - could've ended up with a yummy variant on the old Reeses PB Cup ads (though the thought of getting scalded in the process isn't fun)

Let's do that tonight!! (I hope we don't end up with babies covered in peanut butter.)

[Wax Frog]

[Angela]

It's a MIRACLE!! I have manifested my dream into physical reality.

Thanks!

[Matiasfx]

"What if you slept?
And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed?
And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower?
And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand?
Ah, what then?"

--Samuel Taylor Coleridge

Have a good weekend guys.. Please keep posting about this

Matty

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Coleridge, via Matiasfx

"And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?"

I like the way you think, Matty! Someday I intend to do an experiment of that very sort

[Matiasfx]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I like the way you think, Matty! Someday I intend to do an experiment of that very sort

Thanks, and i like the way you write!! i have learn a lot from you and all of your posts here!!!

Keep them coming.

Matty

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Matiasfx

Thanks, and i like the way you write!! i have learn a lot from you and all of your posts here!!!

Keep them coming.

We're all each other's teachers, I suppose. If I have any success with this I will do my best to guess at how/why, and make that guess public

[Wax Frog]

Well, this morning I managed to recall a dream at length for the first time in weeks, and better still nearly swerved into a golden opportunity to go lucid! Not too shabby for only three days' effort, huh?

[Moon Kitty]

A couple of years ago (before i knew about manifesting) i was starting high school i was really worried that i would'nt make any friends, as i was quite the loner in my old school or that i'd make my self look like an idiot somehow. I was so worried, it was all i kept thinking about the night before so to calm myself, i decided to visualise what i wanted to happen and who i wanted to meet and because i did this when i was in bed, i ended up falling asleep and having a lucid dream where everything i had visualised, i was dreaming about.

The next day, when i started the new school, everything went has i had visualised and dreamed (i really was'nt expecting it to)
I made friends with a group of 10 different girls and while two girls i was best friends with who had moved schools previously, knew them as well. I also reconnected with a guy friend of mine who i had lost contact with and we became really close friends again.

Maybe you should try visualising while your lying in bed like i did but it might not work as well for you because i tend to get most of my spiritual experiences from dreams, i've even had one that saved me and my dad's life! and random things like what people are going to name their children,pets etc but my most recent being my friend breaking up with her boyfriend (it being a very messy break up) and he sent nude pictures of her to everyone (i didnt even know what he looked like!)

But as i was saying, you should give it a go. Good luck

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by Angela

Right after I wrote that post about the good omen, I spilled an entire cup of coffee with grounds and filter and everything all over my kitchen -- splat!!

Two babies is maybe not such a good omen?

Mr. Bill: "Oh Boy!! These abrasives really scrub those stains off my counters!"

[javamannen2]

A good, clear lucid dream has all the hallmark attributes of a "perfect" visualization.

• It's extremely vivid, even physical
• All senses are involved
• You see everything from a first-person perspective
• There's a big emotional impact
• It feels like you are really there

Etc.

However, if you're not content with LDs as a visualization technique / LOA tool, the next step could be to try to actually integrate the dream world and the ordinary world. I.e. to short-circuit the isolation between "dream" and "reality". This can be scary though...

When I was heavily into lucid dreaming, after a while I started to get after-images from a (lucid) dream superimposed on my normal reality the first second or so after I had woke up. This started to extend to several seconds. I would wake up and, eyes open, in the center field of vision was a little blob of after-imagery from the dream. Like at the end of a cartoon, when the end-scene is compressed down into a little dot and then disappears, except the dot doesn't disappear completely. I still had a fresh memory of the last scene from my dream. If I focused on this little blob, it would begin to "live" and take on a more physical form, and transfom into e.g. a spider walking on the ceiling in my room. The "thing" would dissolve after a few seconds. But I could sense that if I continued my LD-ing exercises this integration of realities would progress, and from an objective perspective could result in full-scale hallucinations. I actually got scared that I was going "crazy". I stopped my LDing exercises, dream journaling etc after this. This was several years ago. Now I know that I will return to these experiments sometime in the future. Not now, since I have other projects going on (building self-discipline, character, a career, a great physique), and also because I don't feel strong enough to handle the "scary stuff" *yet* =) But when I'm more solid, I will return to explore this stuff further.

[Wax Frog]

java, you've spooked and inspired me all at once!

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by javamannen2

If I focused on this little blob, it would begin to "live" and take on a more physical form, and transfom into e.g. a spider walking on the ceiling in my room. The "thing" would dissolve after a few seconds. But I could sense that if I continued my LD-ing exercises this integration of realities would progress, and from an objective perspective could result in full-scale hallucinations. I actually got scared that I was going "crazy".

That's why I think it can be valuable to do what occult practicioners do in those instances: learn to draw a demarcation between "the thing I am visualizing" and "the real world". IE, enter a ritual space when you start your work, formally demarcate the boundaries between your space and the rest of your life, and close your space down when you finish your work. And *ground* when you end ritual space. Come back to earth, eat something.