Needing help with my attitude towards money

[torilink]

well, personally I'd not buy the wine - but maybe the lottery tickets because it is fun.

yeah, I say it is ok - when you know in your very being it is ok. It isn't ok when it is driven by an ego need. then it is a need to gamble.

Originally Posted by moonrambler

And spending the ten bucks on gambling (lottery tickets) because it's fun, when you may or may not have another ten bucks tomorrow for the diabetic cat (or the diabetic child, for that matter) -- you seriously tell me that's ok? Because tomorrow, lots of money might just appear out of nowhere?

[mercuryrising]

I sat down and read most of Rich Dad, Poor Dad after quoting it here. This particular paragraph really struck me. Somehow, it goes down easier coming from someone who is an actual millionaire:

As young boys, Mike and I were constantly told by my rich dad that 'Money is not real.' Rich dad occassionally reminded us of how close we came to the secret of money on that first day we go together and began "making money" out of plaster of paris [they were literally counterfeiting money]. "The poor and middle class work for money," he would say, "The rich make money. The more real you think money is, the harder you will work for it. If you can grasp the idea that money is not real, you will grow rich faster."

[cylon]

Interesting. I should look into this rich dad thing. I'm told it was also a huge tv mini-series back in the day.

[Angela]

That was Rich Man, Poor Man, you goof.

[cylon]

See how out of touch I am? Isn't Nick Nolte the millionaire Mercury is talking about?

[torilink]

bwahh ha ha cylon - you so funny.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Angela

You're right -- if you look at and see a mess and you say, "I am financially abundant," that probably won't feel too good, because you'll recognize how out of alignment you are with the truth. And if you look at and see overflowing abundance and you say, "I am financially abundant" then I think you will feel good. Here's the thing, moonrambler: no matter what the circumstance, you have the power to look at and see a mess, or to see overflowing abundance.

Let me ask for a suggestion on how to look at a giant pile of bills including some that are way behind, and how to interpret this in a more positive light. This is an honest request. (I don't think "I have an overflowing abundance of unpaid bills" is going to cut it )

[torilink]

I know you didn't ask me, but I'm going to chime in.

There is this space or state of being in and through which lies the "Shift Point", this is the point at which what was (the past) ceases to recreate itself and a new state of experience begins to enter into your perception.

You arrive at this point when you've accepted as truth that no matter what the outer appearance of a situation seems to be - you just know that the only truth is what you see inside your minds eye - it is a bit like faith in a way, but more like a knowing because you have formed a "Dynamic Belief Structure".

This takes a bit of time experiencing how the outer always reflects the inner world. It takes the realization that all cause is inside you - not outside you.

See the way you look at the pile of bills right now is as a cause. The pile of bills is the cause of you not having, the cause of lack in your life. The bills are the cause of worry and the cause of anxiety & maybe even household conflicts.

But.... it isn't so - the pile of bills is the effect of your beliefs & thoughts. What you believe to be true is made so outside the self. This is how we know ourselves - by looking out onto what we are creating.

So long as you believe what your eyes see are the cause, it continues to recreate the experience over and over again because you REACT to it with thought, emotion, and belief.

When you get to this point of acceptance about what is true and what is merely a reflection, resistance falls away, you stop reacting to the reflections and begin focusing on truth. Your will or desire (however you choose to define it) is then aligned with BELIEF and enters into your perception & awareness. This is Intentional Manifestation.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

(I don't think "I have an overflowing abundance of unpaid bills" is going to cut it )

No, that wouldn't feel too good, would it?

If that pile were at the Reception Desk of the Zanzibar Pleasure Palace (aka my apartment's entry hall), I would look to see what the bills each represent:

Electricity that provides the delicious evening light for my bath? Yay! Thank you, SCE!

Cable and wi-fi? Oh, I appreciate you so much for allowing me to type away in either the Love Lounge, the All Day All Night Cafe, or the Window of Wondrous Wow at the Zanzibar! (bed, dining, and window seat areas for the uninitiated).

Amex? My darling Amex, how grateful I am to you for providing me with the tools to so powerfully track what I spend my money on, so I can make wiser choices! And for your endless and ever-growing trust in me! And also thanks to all the people whom I pay with Amex: with special love to my gym/spa and my local neighborhood magazine stand. Mwah!

Paying bills, for me, is an act of love and deep appreciation.

And by the way, every time I purchase something in person, I ask for a discount, and at least half the time, I'm given one. The other day at Borders I asked for a discount (after entertaining the sales clerk by thoroughly and brazenly enjoying one of those little Lindt white chocolate balls, nearly to the point of orgasm) and she gave me 30% off, with a huge smile on her face. Yay! Danger Man is often amazed (and I suspect somewhat appalled) when I ask for my discounts (sometimes I'll say, "May I please have my Feeling Good Discount?" or "Would you please give me the Beginner's Surfer Discount?") and he's always astonished to see how happy people are to comply. Often, people who don't have the power to grant a discount will throw in a little free sample of something. I love free samples! But I digress.

Back to the Giant Pile o' Bills. A perspective you might adopt is one of deep gratitude for what they represent. And if you approach the vendors that way, you may be surprised at how willing they are to work with you in being flexible. People love to make a difference for you.

[cylon]

I was going to say something but TK and Angela keep nailing it. I'm attracting good info.

[smartile]

Hi ciarac,

I'm going to give you the best advice I know to give. I didn't make this up. It has come from study of Bob Proctor and Wallace Wattles material in The Science of Getting Rich.

The Problem

You're false beliefs use the Law of Attraction. Your false beliefs about money are attracting your current circumstances. These beliefs are buried in your subconscious. Here are a few to consider,

- I can't be rich and be healthy.
- I'm not smart enough.
- You need money to make money.
- I can't trust people with money.
- Rich people have problems.

If you want to change your point of attaction then you've got to change your beliefs about money.

The simplest easiest way to do this is:

1) create a prosperous image of yourself (focus on what you are doing with the money, NOT the money itself)

2) fill this image with positive emotions

This is the first step to riches. You have to believe that the Universe is a friendly place and that it will provide anything you want. This belief will come from consistently holding that image of riches in your mind.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by smartile

- I can't be rich and be healthy.
- I'm not smart enough.

You have to believe that the Universe is a friendly place and that it will provide anything you want. This belief will come from consistently holding that image of riches in your mind.

I could add ALOT to that first part. Isn't it vital to face 'the list' before getting to the shift in belief? After months of frustration with IM techniques, and seeing references to dealing with buried emotions, I decided that this might be my problem and that I should do inner work in order to get 'unstuck'.

[wellbeing]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I could add ALOT to that first part. Isn't it vital to face 'the list' before getting to the shift in belief? After months of frustration with IM techniques, and seeing references to dealing with buried emotions, I decided that this might be my problem and that I should do inner work in order to get 'unstuck'.

Wow, there's some great stuff in this thread (thanks, Angela, TK, and you other Magnificent Manifesters) and I wanna join the party!

Wax Frog, I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "face" the list and "inner work" is, in my opinion, part of balanced personal development, but it doesn't have to be hard. I love when Abraham says "a belief is a thought you keep thinking." It's no more complicated than that. So, choose to think a different thought. When the evil "I'm not ________ enough" thought comes around, you can ignore it (if you like). Sometimes, I like to thank it for sharing, personally, before ignoring it. Or just recognise it, "Oh, ya, that's that old programming. I'm going to think some different about myself from now on." Or my favorite mantra (comes from Glinda in The Wizard of Oz, when the Wicked Witch of the West threatens Dorothy for the first time in Munchkinland):

"Oooohoohoo....Rubbish! You have no power here. Begone! Before someone drops a house on you"

(Works in so many situations. )

You can do more formalized processes as gentle as TAT and EFT or as intensive as deep-exploration, psychotherapy, if you like as well. Your choice!

[torilink]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I could add ALOT to that first part. Isn't it vital to face 'the list' before getting to the shift in belief? After months of frustration with IM techniques, and seeing references to dealing with buried emotions, I decided that this might be my problem and that I should do inner work in order to get 'unstuck'.

well.... this is a sticky one - for some yes others not so much. It all depends on the beliefs you hold. If for instance you have a deeply embedded belief in lack, you may want to recognize it and accept it is there - then move on the changing it especially if you don't have a strong belief about manifestation and that everything you desire is made manifest. This is what I refer to as "Repair & exchange". There are four ways or mechanisms to change beliefs and this is just one of them.

There is also:

2) cohesion or alignment - where you purposely bring your emotional state on line with your desire to override any subconscious beliefs you may hold - kind of two against one thingy.

3) release - this happens all by itself through experience when the situation has become unbearable and the ego releases the past & limiting beliefs out of necessity or self preservation. This is the pain leads to enlightenment thingy.

and last but certainly not least - my personal favorite and the shortcut of all shortcuts..... .drum roll please!

4) Dynamic Belief Structures - not everyone has these, they take a bit of willingness to develop but people who hold them are the ones that no matter what happens they land on their feet better off for it. These are beliefs found in most religions and imparted in positive family structures like "Everything will work out in the end", "If God be for us, who can be against us", "I trust that God will provide" and so on - these beliefs are deep seeded and they over ride any limiting beliefs that may get in the way - it is more like such a strongly held belief it is a knowing really.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by wellbeing

Wow, there's some great stuff in this thread (thanks, Angela, TK, and you other Magnificent Manifesters) and I wanna join the party!

Wax Frog, I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "face" the list and "inner work" is, in my opinion, part of balanced personal development, but it doesn't have to be hard. I love when Abraham says "a belief is a thought you keep thinking." It's no more complicated than that. So, choose to think a different thought. When the evil "I'm not ________ enough" thought comes around, you can ignore it (if you like). Sometimes, I like to thank it for sharing, personally, before ignoring it. Or just recognise it, "Oh, ya, that's that old programming. I'm going to think some different about myself from now on." Or my favorite mantra (comes from Glinda in The Wizard of Oz, when the Wicked Witch of the West threatens Dorothy for the first time in Munchkinland):

"Oooohoohoo....Rubbish! You have no power here. Begone! Before someone drops a house on you"

(Works in so many situations. )

You can do more formalized processes as gentle as TAT and EFT or as intensive as deep-exploration, psychotherapy, if you like as well. Your choice!

I love the wizard of oz and I love that this works for you. being raised in a Christian Church - I still find that rebuking negative thoughts is so awesome and works like a charm. "Get thee behind me", "I rebuke that thought" and so on.

[torilink]

oh one other thought about rebuking - it isn't the same as resisting - you aren't denying anything or pushing against it - you are acknowledging it and then putting it behind you or disconnecting from it.

[wellbeing]

Originally Posted by torilink

I love the wizard of oz and I love that this works for you. being raised in a Christian Church - I still find that rebuking negative thoughts is so awesome and works like a charm. "Get thee behind me", "I rebuke that thought" and so on.

Mutual admiration to you too, torilink!

[moonrambler]

I feel like I'm not communicating effectively, because I think what I said was very similar to what torilink said, although worded differently. What I said was: I spent many years creating a mess, and then I spent 10 months affirming and visualizing myself as financially abundant and changing beliefs about money, and essentially nothing changed, and now it is time to add another aspect to all this: facing reality (the mess).

Let me try it this way. There's a kid. The kid thinks it's fun to steal other people's stuff. And stuff out of stores. Not big huge stuff -- little stuff. But it adds up as the years go by. Sometimes the kid loses this stuff. Sometimes the kid sells it and buys candy. Sometimes the kid inadvertently breaks it. Sometimes the kid sells it and pays the electric bill.

Many years go by. One day the kid realizes nobody wants to talk to her anymore because she's been taking all their stuff. Everybody's ornery, or mad. The kid says, well heck. This is all I ever knew, was how to take stuff. I guess I had weird ideas about stuff. Plus I also always really believed one day something would magically happen or else I would figure out what to do in order to pay the electric bill my own self.

So the kid does a lot of reading and spends nearly a year doing all these intentional manifestation rituals and law of attraction practice and working on changing beliefs and finding limiting ideas, and so on. And at the end of this year, the people still want their stuff back and the people are still ornery, and even worse, the cops are in the driveway because once upon a time the kid stole a bicycle from outside a convenience store and sold it to pay the electric bill, and the police just discovered this action was videotaped.

Now what?

[wellbeing]

If the kid truly worked on changing her beliefs and finding limiting ideas, I would venture to say she would change her behavior during the course of that year. She would do things differently and perhaps eventually people would react to her differently.

When the police show up in the driveway, if she learned similar lessons to what I've learned, she might be able to recognize that this condition (the cops) was something she had created when she didn't know any better. But now she does know better and knows she has been creating different, more abundant conditions for herself. (I love Abraham's description of the "delicious buffer of time.") She might freely offer to "pay" for the things she had stolen in the past by working or offering a small amount of money each week. Note the "freely." If she's truly changed her beliefs to a state of abundance, she will know that she's creating that abundance and, as it appears, she will be able to increase that weekly stipend and even make full restitution because she lacks no-thing. Of course, it could play out in a different but abundant fashion.

My belief: if it (a condition, a thing, a relationship, etc.) is in front of me, then it's something I've already created (deliberately or inadvertently). If I don't like what I've created, I will have to deliberately choose to create something different.

Moonrambler, given these dramatic lessons in impoverished thinking, I can see why this is struggle for you. Personally, I find it a challenge to use 3rd parties (the people in your examples who are not you) when discussing the LoA as we can never be fully sure of their true point of focus. However, using role models seems to be comfortable way for you to learn; perhaps you can pick more successful role models or role models with happier stories? (Meant, not as a criticism, but as a helpful suggestion.)

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by wellbeing

It's no more complicated than that. So, choose to think a different thought...You can do more formalized processes as gentle as TAT and EFT or as intensive as deep-exploration, psychotherapy, if you like as well. Your choice!

I've already chosen something called "The Presence Process" (or maybe it chose me). That's what prompted my question, actually. I wasn't looking for The Answer, but instead interested in smartile's take on the issue.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by torilink

well.... this is a sticky one - for some yes others not so much. It all depends on the beliefs you hold

Precisely. I have good reason to believe there's buried stuff that is working counter to how I would consciously like things to be. #2 with a dash of #4 seems to be the order of the day for me now...

[mercuryrising]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

I feel like I'm not communicating effectively, because I think what I said was very similar to what torilink said, although worded differently. What I said was: I spent many years creating a mess, and then I spent 10 months affirming and visualizing myself as financially abundant and changing beliefs about money, and essentially nothing changed, and now it is time to add another aspect to all this: facing reality (the mess).

Let me try it this way. There's a kid. The kid thinks it's fun to steal other people's stuff. And stuff out of stores. Not big huge stuff -- little stuff. But it adds up as the years go by. Sometimes the kid loses this stuff. Sometimes the kid sells it and buys candy. Sometimes the kid inadvertently breaks it. Sometimes the kid sells it and pays the electric bill.

Many years go by. One day the kid realizes nobody wants to talk to her anymore because she's been taking all their stuff. Everybody's ornery, or mad. The kid says, well heck. This is all I ever knew, was how to take stuff. I guess I had weird ideas about stuff. Plus I also always really believed one day something would magically happen or else I would figure out what to do in order to pay the electric bill my own self.

So the kid does a lot of reading and spends nearly a year doing all these intentional manifestation rituals and law of attraction practice and working on changing beliefs and finding limiting ideas, and so on. And at the end of this year, the people still want their stuff back and the people are still ornery, and even worse, the cops are in the driveway because once upon a time the kid stole a bicycle from outside a convenience store and sold it to pay the electric bill, and the police just discovered this action was videotaped.

Now what?

My simplest answer is, she pays her dues. And while paying her dues-- that is, giving back the stuff she stole, facing the law, cleaning up her mess-- she maintains an attitude of acceptance and responsibility. What I mean is, when the people she stole from get in her face and tell her what a jerk she's been, she doesn't snap back. She doesn't blame anyone for the mess.

Think of yourself as like a gardener or farmer. You are reaping your harvest. It's time to sow some new seeds. Pull some weeds. Sow the seeds of generosity to reap the fruits of wealth.

There is a space between "put your nose to the grind stone" and "sit on your arse and wish"; it is the activity of creating. Simple economics says we offer products and services and in return receive money. The money is just a relative number value for the product/service. So, bottom line, what do you have to give of yourself? What value can you provide to others? This is how I think money comes out of nothing.

[Acting Like Godot]

So recently I had a bit of a money problem. Yeah, me.

See, my little boy's got a place in a certain school. He'll start next year. And in two years' time, his younger sister will need to go to school too. And there's this particular girls' school that I would like to be send her to.

So I start thinking, "Wouldn't it be nice if by late 2009 or early 2010, I move house to somewhere right in-between the two schools? Then both kids can walk to school every day and they don't even have to take a school bus? And they can both enjoy this convenience for quite a number of years?"

The problem is that the residential area in between the two schools is quite expensive. All homes in that zone are very big, very nice .... and very expensive.

Like maybe, 1.5 million dollars or more.

I can't easily afford it. Sure, I can make the initial downpayment and get a bank loan for the rest. But the mortgage will be a debt I need to pay off over the next 20 years. There goes my dream of retiring comfortably by age 45.

So I have various doubts and limiting beliefs. Then I tell myself, "Hey you. You're supposed to be a magician, right. Then go do some magick. You don't even need an instant solution, because you're not going to have to buy the house immediately."

So last Tuesday, I do a big magickal spell. I say, "Show me the financial solution. I don't need the money now, just show me the solution."

Spell done. The next morning, I open the newspapers and here's the headline news - there's this big hoo-haa in Parliament, something to do with the legal sector in my country.

See, I'm a lawyer. And all these years, the industry in my country has been very protectionist, in the sense that there are all sorts of licensing barriers to keep out foreign competition (meaning, the global law firms).

And all these years, these licensing barriers have effectively prevented the world's global law firms from hiring someone like me in my own country. It's to prevent the foreign law firms from poaching locally-qualified lawyers (unless they move out of the country).

ANYWAY, yesterday, the government changed all that. They changed the laws. In a few months time, the world's biggest, best, highest-paying law firms will be allowed to (1) expand as much as they want to expand, in my country, and (2) freely hire people like me, right here in my own country.

Wowee. I think I'm gonna be able to pay for my new house, after all.

Now, I just have to do another spell, for one of these global law firms to come knocking on my door and begging for me to join them. I'd like a 50% pay raise.

A challenging magickal spell.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

I feel like I'm not communicating effectively, because I think what I said was very similar to what torilink said, although worded differently. What I said was: I spent many years creating a mess, and then I spent 10 months affirming and visualizing myself as financially abundant and changing beliefs about money, and essentially nothing changed, and now it is time to add another aspect to all this: facing reality (the mess).

Well wherever you find yourself right now - there you are. Accept it - for me that comes as easily as "Silly me, look what I've created this time!" Oops!!!

then I turn my attention & focus on what I want - once I turn from it, it is gone. Sure it may still be hanging out in my physical awareness temporarily, but its on its way outtahere! But, and here is the kicker, everytime you turn around to sneak a peak and check to see if its still there...., you recreate it - YOU perpetuate because you can't let go of it. Just like the biblical story of Lot & his family, they are told not to look back!!! but the wife just can't move forward, just can't help herself - and bang she's a pillar of salt!

lol - think about that.

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Let me try it this way. There's a kid. The kid thinks it's fun to steal other people's stuff. And stuff out of stores. Not big huge stuff -- little stuff. But it adds up as the years go by. Sometimes the kid loses this stuff. Sometimes the kid sells it and buys candy. Sometimes the kid inadvertently breaks it. Sometimes the kid sells it and pays the electric bill.

Many years go by. One day the kid realizes nobody wants to talk to her anymore because she's been taking all their stuff. Everybody's ornery, or mad. The kid says, well heck. This is all I ever knew, was how to take stuff. I guess I had weird ideas about stuff. Plus I also always really believed one day something would magically happen or else I would figure out what to do in order to pay the electric bill my own self.

So the kid does a lot of reading and spends nearly a year doing all these intentional manifestation rituals and law of attraction practice and working on changing beliefs and finding limiting ideas, and so on. And at the end of this year, the people still want their stuff back and the people are still ornery, and even worse, the cops are in the driveway because once upon a time the kid stole a bicycle from outside a convenience store and sold it to pay the electric bill, and the police just discovered this action was videotaped.

that was a lot to follow. if you've changed your beliefs then the situation would change - what's OUT THERE is merely a reflection - so if you see X, Y, or Z out there, cops at the door, the bank foreclosing on the house - whatever, then you still have some inner work to do.

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Now what?

instead of looking at your situation and responding emotionally with worry & anxiety - perhaps make a list of what it symbolizes about your inner state of being.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

So the kid does a lot of reading and spends nearly a year doing all these intentional manifestation rituals and law of attraction practice and working on changing beliefs and finding limiting ideas, and so on. And at the end of this year, the people still want their stuff back and the people are still ornery, and even worse, the cops are in the driveway because once upon a time the kid stole a bicycle from outside a convenience store and sold it to pay the electric bill, and the police just discovered this action was videotaped.

Now what?

So next the kid goes to the police station and he tells the police, "I'm sorry. I was a rotten kid. I'm not going to do this kind of bad stuff ever again."

And the police officer says, "Yah, right, kiddo. I hear that all the time from different rotten kids. Now get back into the cell."

And the kid says, "I don't care whether YOU believe me or not. I believe in me. I'm really not going to do this again. I know what I want to do with my life, and being a thief is not it." And he stares defiantly straight into the police officer's eyes.

And the police officer is a bit startled ... and he shakes his head slowly, and he says, "You know what, kid .... for some reason, I kinda believe you. I must still be stupid."

And the police officer goes off. But later he remembers that strange look on the kid's face. And so in the police file, he adds a little sentence saying that perhaps charges should be dropped, and the kid sent for counselling.

And the senior police head reads the report, and that day, he just happens to be in a magnanimous mood, because he had great sex with his wife (this is purely coincidental, ie the way LOA works). So the senior police head flips through the file, and he says, "Oh, whatever"; and he writes in the file: "Postpone charges for now; send the accused for six months of mandatory counselling; call for a probation report after that, and we'll decide what to do, then."

And the kid is sent for counselling. And by coincidence (again, of course), he gets a really good counsellor. For six months they meet once a week, and they talk about beliefs and values and all sorts of things, and the boy really likes the counsellor, and the counsellor really likes him too, and they become good friends along the way.

And the counsellor writes an excellent probation report, saying that the boy is of good character; he lacked parental guidance at first, but now he has grown up and shows a lot of maturity and common sense; plus remorse for his past crimes and a determination to repay the victims.

And the police drops the charges, and the boy uses his newfound IM powers to manifest lots of money (in honest ways, of course) and he compensates his victims for his past crimes, and goes around to personally apologise. And some of them are still angry, but a few of them say, "Son, I had already forgotten about this matter, it happened so long ago, but it is indeed very brave of you to come to apologise, I want to shake your hand."

And the kid's life moves on and on, and as Abraham Hicks says, it just gets better and better and better .....

[cylon]

I'm starting to sense positive feedback from the world around me. I've been following the process in the new Abraham book, where before I go to bed, I remember all the positive things that happened during the day. In the morning, before I go into my "auto-pilot" mode of worrying about what will happen that day, I just keep reminding myself over and over, the only thing that matters is that I feel good. That I appreciate myself. That I will seek evidence of things going better. That other people's opinions and actions are not the deciding factor in my life. That I can trust in this process, be brave enough to allow myself to accept that maybe I have more control than I realized.

And the world around me seems to be changing. It's subtle, but something's going on. I expect people at work to freak out, they don't, and if they do, somehow it doesn't need to involve me as much. I expect my boss to go overboard, he doesn't (and he should have). And I hear "wow today wasn't so bad--can't remember the last time this went so smoothly" from other people. Especially on a day that everyone was expecting to be horrible.

I can only think this is feedback. Not many details in this post, as I'm still kind of in awe that my thoughts really are making my days easier. I seem to have moved beyond worrying about tomorrow and regretting yesterday.

Part of me can sense that "money", or anything else, really isn't any"THING". We think, life is one way, because that's all we've known, it's how we've been told "life is this way". No one ever told me that what I think, will be reflected back to me. But it keeps happening. Those reflections, over, and over, and over.
And I don't need to understand it. I just need to use it.

Does the universe really orchestrate itself for you? It appears that when you put out the intention for things to be good, and HOLD TO THAT, no matter WHAT... it just happens. I have been FIRM that all I care about... is my own happiness. My own self-respect.

Even though I live at the same place and work with the same people, I feel like I've moved to a different country and am getting used to a new culture.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by cylon

Part of me can sense that "money", or anything else, really isn't any"THING". We think, life is one way, because that's all we've known, it's how we've been told "life is this way". No one ever told me that what I think, will be reflected back to me. But it keeps happening. Those reflections, over, and over, and over.
And I don't need to understand it. I just need to use it.

beautifully stated. yes, the egoic mind loves to analyze and try to figure the how's and why's of it all. Is it subjective reality? Is it the universe granting my wishes? Is it God answering my prayers? Is it, is it, why does it, how does it, and on and on.

but it doesn't really matter, we don't need to know the fundamental mechanics of why or how it works the way it does, we just need to accept that it does work that way and use it to recreate our lives in joy.

[cylon]

I agree. Maybe we can just give ourselves permission to experience it. My body knows how to breathe and all my cells work together to keep me alive, I don't know how exactly, and I don't need to.

[marinik]

Originally Posted by cylon

I'm starting to sense positive feedback from the world around me. I've been following the process in the new Abraham book, where before I go to bed, I remember all the positive things that happened during the day. In the morning, before I go into my "auto-pilot" mode of worrying about what will happen that day, I just keep reminding myself over and over, the only thing that matters is that I feel good. That I appreciate myself. That I will seek evidence of things going better. That other people's opinions and actions are not the deciding factor in my life. That I can trust in this process, be brave enough to allow myself to accept that maybe I have more control than I realized.

re.

Cylon which Abraham book is it? I have many of them but when I got the last one (new at the time) it was disappointing. So basic. Which process are you following?

[smartile]

Isn't it vital to face 'the list' before getting to the shift in belief?

Wax Frog,

I would say "no". The reason I say that is because an internal shift is always a result of where you place your attention. If you continually place your attention on a rich image, then you can't help but get rich.

The purpose of creating 'the list' is to bring those false beliefs into your awareness. When you do that, you become aware of the impact; the impact those beliefs have had on your life. And for most people, once they get the impact they then feel empowered to make a new choice to change their thinking and their beliefs.