Can I make anime characters come to life?

[CodeGeass]

If the subjective reality thing is true, it means that I can make anything happen since this is "my world" right? So could I make an anime character that I like come to life and fall in love with me?

[Parthon]

No, but yes. Or is it Yes, but no.

It's a very hard one to answer, because it depends on the view of subjective reality.

For myself, yes there is a greater consciousness that I am a part of, and that really is the true part of who I am, but at the same time all the people, animals, plants and even unliving objects in the world are part of that consciousness too. We are all connected to it, but the more sentient the entity the greate the consciousness can shine through. Trees are no less conscious than humans, it's just that humans are a better conduit. Also, most people aren't away of this true nature.

Now, what does this have to do with anime and wishes? All of reality, which is yours, is made up of rules. Your form, or the human "side" of you is just your avatar which consciousness imbues with energy so it may experience reality. These rules are created by consciousness as a way to grow and exprience and without them it would be a mess. Gravity, time and the physical nature of the universe are some of these rules.

Now to get an anime character to appear, you'd have to rewrite the rules, and to do that you'd need to become way more aware. I wouldn't say it's not possible, just you'd have to be in a completely different place to make it happen.

[CodeGeass]

I'm confused >_<. I read a lot of the subjective reality articles on Steve's blog and it says that if we believe sommething enough then it'll come true, like if I believed I could fly, and put that wish above everything greater that I believe (science and stuff) then I could fly. And about the human avatar thing...did the conciousness just randomly decide to give us an avatar? o.o or does it keep giving us avatars (reincarnation?). I'm sorry, I'm really new to this ^^;; I appreciate your help

[Adelina]

To any responders, please don't be silly.

You can see the fallacy of your reasoning when children take the same ideas and apply them. What you claim is true in an incomplete and ungrounded philosophy has no meaning in context of the real world.


To the asker, the answer is no. Now go do something valuable with your time.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by CodeGeass

If the subjective reality thing is true, it means that I can make anything happen since this is "my world" right?

Nope. After all, you are a very long way off from perfect control of your mind.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by CodeGeass

I read a lot of the subjective reality articles on Steve's blog and it says that if we believe sommething enough then it'll come true, like if I believed I could fly, and put that wish above everything greater that I believe (science and stuff) then I could fly.

The important question here is what you really do believe.

Saying that "I believe X" is not the same as actually believing X.

[Adelina]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Nope. After all, you are a very long way off from perfect control of your mind.

Not true. He is in perfect control of his mind. Reality prevents him from putting his energy into futile things. So it can be put into more productive things in this reality.

[Acting Like Godot]

I haven't met anyone with perfect control of his mind.

I expect, as a bare mimimum, that such a person will have no addictions, no phobias, no nightmares, no bad habits that he wouldn't want to have, etc. He should be immune to stress, since stress is primarily a mental reaction to environment stimuli. He would never worry; he would only direct his mind to find solutions. He should find very easy to perform any of the "stunts" shown on "The Fear Factor", since all the stunts are actually very physically safe and are challenging only from the mental point of view.

Also when I say "don't think of a pink elephant", he should be able to stop himself from thinking that.

That's just the beginning ... However, further discussion of this point is unnecessary. After all, if a person had perfect control of his mind, it is extremely doubtful that he would grapple with issues such as how to obtain love from an anime character.

[carenkh]

Originally Posted by CodeGeass

If the subjective reality thing is true, it means that I can make anything happen since this is "my world" right? So could I make an anime character that I like come to life and fall in love with me?

You can, if you're willing to give up living in your current reality. You can hone your animation skills so the anime character does and says anything you desire. You can close your eyes to this world, and immerse your mind in the animated world. People here would declare you insane, and probably institutionalize you. But that's a choice you could make.

[Adelina]

You're diverting the argument. You claim that he doesn't have perfect control of his mind, because he cannot make an anime character come alive.

Are you encouraging him to try to control his mind, in order to achieve the feat?

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

I haven't met anyone with perfect control of his mind.

I expect, as a bare mimimum, that such a person will have no addictions, no phobias, no nightmares, no bad habits that he wouldn't want to have, etc. He should be immune to stress, since stress is primarily a mental reaction to environment stimuli. He would never worry; he would only direct his mind to find solutions. He should find very easy to perform any of the "stunts" shown on "The Fear Factor", since all the stunts are actually very physically safe and are challenging only from the mental point of view.

Also when I say "don't think of a pink elephant", he should be able to stop himself from thinking that.

That's just the beginning ... However, further discussion of this point is unnecessary. After all, if a person had perfect control of his mind, it is extremely doubtful that he would grapple with issues such as how to obtain love from an anime character.

[Adelina]

And why encourage someone to do that?

To try to change or oppose the objective laws of this reality?

When there are millions of real and true and beautiful things that can be done within and in harmony with the energies of our reality?

[Eisho]

Originally Posted by CodeGeass

If the subjective reality thing is true, it means that I can make anything happen since this is "my world" right? So could I make an anime character that I like come to life and fall in love with me?

If reality is entirely subjective, yes.

But if reality is not subjective (or purely subjective) then no.

Can you make an anime figure come alive and fall in love with you?

What does that tell you about reality?

Eisho

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Adelina

You're diverting the argument. You claim that he doesn't have perfect control of his mind, because he cannot make an anime character come alive.

Are you encouraging him to try to control his mind, in order to achieve the feat?

Nope. Firstly I was merely explaining his misunderstanding of the subjective reality theory as stated by Steve Pavlina.

It is logically incorrect to say that if the subjective reality theory is true, then one would be able to do any number of bizarre things through one's thought processes alone.

BUT it is logically correct to say that if the subjective reality theory is true, AND one had perfect control of one's mind, THEN one would be able to do lots and lots of highly bizarre things through one's thought processes alone.

The point is probably rather moot, since I do not think that perfect control of the mind is possible. Buddha and Jesus perhaps represent the closest that man has come to such perfect control, but even then they fall short. For example, Jesus's episode in the Garden of Gethsemane clearly shows that he did not have PERFECT control of his mind. His episode with the hapless, fruitless fig tree is another illustration.

And no, I would not encourage the OP to try to control his mind, in order to make anime characters come alive and love him. Simply because such a "feat" seems meaningless, and even rather unhealthy, to me, even if possible. Just my opinion.

HOWEVER, I would encourage everyone to improve control of their minds. There are numerous ways to try to do that, and certainly there are immense practical benefits. To give a simple example, setting a good habit of, say, exercising regularly, is in itself a form of controlling your own mind (since motivation and discipline are intrinsically mental).

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Adelina

You're diverting the argument.

If your argument is that CodeGEass has perfect control of his mind, then please be assured that I do not wish to argue with you.

Please feel completely free to believe that CodeGEass represents a human being who has perfect control of his mind.

[CodeGeass]

I was just wondering if that could happen, because it'd be cool lol.

From what I read on Steve's site, he said that our life is only like this because we believe in the laws of gravity and other laws/theories in science, so it prevents us from doing something like walking through walls. So if we truly believed that we could walk through walls, we could walk through walls. He also said that we could manifest anything and that there's only one conciousness, which is mine, so...if I can manifest anything, then it would include making anime characters come to life..?

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by Adelina

And why encourage someone to do that?

To try to change or oppose the objective laws of this reality?

When there are millions of real and true and beautiful things that can be done within and in harmony with the energies of our reality?

Why... To push beyond the current bounds of reality. I Admit, making an anime come to life is not something I personally want, but the ability to heal myself and others is (and yes, I'm talking about waving my hand and healing the sick). Is it so different...? It may lay beyond my or your current understanding, but can it be learned...? Is there even a teacher... Is it possible in a realm of unending possibilities... Does such a realm even exist...? What are life's possibilities...

[Eisho]

Originally Posted by CodeGeass

I was just wondering if that could happen, because it'd be cool lol.

From what I read on Steve's site, he said that our life is only like this because we believe in the laws of gravity and other laws/theories in science, so it prevents us from doing something like walking through walls. So if we truly believed that we could walk through walls, we could walk through walls. He also said that we could manifest anything and that there's only one conciousness, which is mine, so...if I can manifest anything, then it would include making anime characters come to life..?

We believe in those things though because that is our experience from the time of babyhood. Our hands don't habitually pass through solid matter. We know this through experience a long time before science tells us that such things are impossible.

Though in fact, they are not impossible. At the quantum level you could pass through solid matter. The only problem is that such an event is statistically so unlikely to happen that you would need to wait billions and billions and billions and billions of years for it to happen. Most likely the universe would die before you witness such an event, but it could still happen. But not because of conscious thought, but just because of a freak quantum event.

Cheers,

Eisho

[Wax Frog]

I haven't read all of the thread yet, but here's one possible solution. You could enter a state in which those around you would perceive you as being delusional, because you would have fully immersed yourself into the EXPERIENCE of manifesting what you desire. But perhaps if it is real for you, that is all the 'reality' that matters anyway. Just an idea.

[after reading, I see carenkh beat me to this ]

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Eisho

We believe in those things though because that is our experience from the time of babyhood. Our hands don't habitually pass through solid matter. We know this through experience a long time before science tells us that such things are impossible.

Right. In the same way, we believe that if we stand still, we stand still. That's because of what our senses tell us. However, the more precise description is that we're hurtling through space at the speed of several thousand miles per second, as the earth turns on its axis and rotates ...

So yes, there is a objective physical "reality". What it is to us, depends on what our senses tell us. Our senses are extremely limited in their own ways 9one example given above). If we could echolocate like a bat; or perceive radio signals directly; or sense tidal rhythms like a clam; or see more wavelengths of light at the UV end like insects can, we would believe reality to be different from what we currently believe it to be.

And then that other reality would become "real" to us.

[JaredR]

One could come to some funny conclusions if you took The Secret's word at face value: "You can have, be, or do anything you want."

Can you grow purple spots? Fly to the moon? Breathe underwater? Try it out and get back to me.

[Elrond]

^ Troll? oh well...

If you have a strong desire for it (beyond: it would be kinda cool...) then I think you can do it. Be prepared to be percieved as others as a loony, though

[JaredR]

Originally Posted by Elrond

^ Troll? oh well...

Sense of humor?

I believe very much in the Law of Attraction. I also believe that there's a lot of exaggeration out there.

[Elrond]

^ Apparently not your sense of humor (which was brilliant, mind you). It's just that if I had a dime for everytime that someone comes in and vaguely reference the Secret (which seems to be the only source on this stuff for many people) in a "is it possible..?" thread and say "don't be silly, of course not" without further explanation, then... maby I would have a quarter.

The Secret is not the only LoA-source that touts that you can be do and have anything you want. Notice the want - how many wants some extroardinary thing that would have to defy the reality as we know it to come to fruition? In other words, how many want that beyond "that would be kinda cool..."?

[JaredR]

Originally Posted by Elrond

The Secret is not the only LoA-source that touts that you can be do and have anything you want. Notice the want - how many wants some extroardinary thing that would have to defy the reality as we know it to come to fruition? In other words, how many want that beyond "that would be kinda cool..."?

I'd be very interested in seeing someone try to manifest something unrealistic (like changing skin color). There are certain limitations in our thinking that I just don't believe anyone can overcome (at least not yet).

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by JaredR

One could come to some funny conclusions if you took The Secret's word at face value: "You can have, be, or do anything you want."

Can you grow purple spots? Fly to the moon? Breathe underwater? Try it out and get back to me.

I know a true story about flying to the moon. This happened in the 1930s - long before NASA came into existence and before there was ever such a thing as a space rocket.

In a little kids' classroom somewhere in the US, the eight-year-old kids were asked to write an essay about what they wanted to do when they grew up. One dumb kid wrote that he wanted to fly to the moon. The teacher flunked his essay. However, about 30 years later, the kid did fly to the moon. His name was Neil Armstrong.

This is an interesting story, but it isn't even my main point.

My main point is that people are much, much more likely to be bound by imaginary limits, than to be sucked up by imaginary excesses.

To give you a personal example, in 2006 I was earning about $8,000 a month. In that year I also started learning about the LOA.

Now right around then, I could have fantasised about earning $1,000,000 a month. Which I think for me, would be fairly regarded at that time as being about as likely as growing purple spots or flying to the moon.

But I didn't indulge in such fantasies. I simply set intentions like getting promotions extra quick, doubling my net worth, getting huge salary increases, getting opportunities to shine at work, having better jobs come magically to me etc.

So now ...... this year is 2008, and I'm earning $23,000 a month, which is slightly less than triple what I was earning 2 years ago.

(Yes, obviously I also took action on my goals - but there were also a regular series of strange "coincidences" and other events in the universe beyond my control - in the conventional sense of "control" - which made all this happen. And I do attribute these to the LOA).

Now, if you asked the average person, "Do you think you could grow purple spots or breathe underwater?", I think that his answer will be "no, this is not possible."

But if you asked the average person, "Do you think you could triple your current salary in 2 years?", I think that his answer will also be "no, this is not possible."

Now, I cannot say anything about purple spots or breathing underwater. But I do know now (and I am speaking from personal experience) that it is entirely possible to triple your current salary in 2 years. And that the LOA enabled me to do it.

And yet I know that most of you will not believe that it is possible for you (yes, YOU there, the guy reading the computer screen) to triple your salary in 2 years.

Your real problem is not with your inability to grow purple spots or do other bizarre things. Your real problem is your acceptance of the imaginary limits that you have placed on yourself. (Not just with regard to your money or career - but with any other area of your life eg health, relationships, family, hobbies, education etc)

THIS is what I meant by people being more likely to be bound by imaginary limits, than sucked up by imaginary excesses.

I am no fan of "The Secret", for certain reasons that I have previously mentioned. However, it does have the merit of provoking people to relook and reconsider the possibilities in their lives. And possibilities can become real, only if you first become aware of the possibilities.

Purple spots are distinctly unappealing to me, therefore I have no interest in manifesting those. I do wonder sometimes what would have happened if, back in 2006, I had started visualising a $1,000,000 monthly paycheck .... instead of just a modest tripling of my salary.

[CodeGeass]

Well according to Steve's site you guys don't have thoughts, only I do. so I won't be perceived by anyone as someone crazy since you guys are all people I've manifested.

I think I understand what Acting Like Godot is trying to say by how I'm bound by imaginary limits...but Steve said that everything in our reality is what we manifested....and so if I wanted to fly, it would somehow work if I believed it and that belief was above everything else that contradicted it [laws of science etc]?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by CodeGeass

I think I understand what Acting Like Godot is trying to say by how I'm bound by imaginary limits...but Steve said that everything in our reality is what we manifested....and so if I wanted to fly, it would somehow work if I believed it and that belief was above everything else that contradicted it [laws of science etc]?

Maybe. Who knows? Check these out:

Daniel Dunglas Home

Yogi Pullavar

Martin de Porres

There are others. Of course, those are examples of physical flying. If you're happy with out-of-body travel to physical places, there is more, such as explained in this book:

Amazon.com: Remote Viewing: David A., Ph.D. Morehouse: Books

While we're on the topic of purple spots, I may as well point out that many skin conditions have some psychomatic origin. As such, they are treatable with techniques such as hypnosis. Hypnosis is primarily about the alteration of thought at a deeper level of consciousness, and therefore may be viewed as a form of LOA. Such conditions include eczema, psoriasis and atopic dermatitis. You may wish to google and see for yourself.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by CodeGeass

Well according to Steve's site you guys don't have thoughts, only I do. so I won't be perceived by anyone as someone crazy since you guys are all people I've manifested.

Excellent point! And as a bonus, you have to admit the lot of us are far more bizarre than any sort of purple-spotted amphibious anime Selenites you could ever concoct

[benverner]

I am a huge fan of Marshall McLuhan who coined the phrase "the medium is the message". This is especially true in the electronic age (as the linked video demonstates).
In particular with regards anime characters, the medium is your television (or computer or wherever you are viewing the anime characters). Your perception of the dots on the screen as anime characters that are worth bringing to life is a product of your mind.
To try to imbue such characters with consciousness and life misses the message, which cannot be separated from the medium in which it is presented.

[Elrond]

Originally Posted by JaredR

I'd be very interested in seeing someone try to manifest something unrealistic (like changing skin color). There are certain limitations in our thinking that I just don't believe anyone can overcome (at least not yet).

I know of cases where people with multiple personality disorder change the colour of their eyes when they switch to another personality. It was mentioned in Tony Robbins book Awakening the Giant Within and has been mentioned many times on this forum. I don't have any direct source though.

It would be cool to change skin color, I would like a little effortless tan.