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At the end of my last meditation it occurred to me that these two beliefs are probably floating around in my subconscious: 1) IM is not real, as that would be consistent with the Universe's past penchant for disappointing me or stomping on my dreams 2) IM is real, but it won't work for me because I am inadequate or deficient in some way, i.e. I am unworthy. I'm sure I'm neither the first or last to have posted variants of these, but I feel better purging myself of them publicly, by my own hand. |
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How freaky (not really, kind of used to it by now), I was going to post about this today... My thought was this: It came from the movie "What the Bleep" there's a line in there when Marley (sp?) was talking with her roommate about a medicine man poking her in the head and her roommate is giving her suggestions. then Marley Matlin goes "yeah right, I live in the real world" and her roommate says "Well, I guess it just depends on what you think is real..." Yeah, this got me really thinking about it... Then in The Secret, there is the quote "whether you think you can, or whether you think you can't, either way you're right..." So, I started asking my self whether I thought IM is real or not (I do believe it to be real, somewhat, based on experiences) but not fully... Either way I'm right (even partially I'm right, explains my haphazard results). So I'm challenging my current belief in it not being "real" and expand my consciousness to make it even more real... I'm also talking about deliberately manifesting thoughts like, Is spontaneous healing real...? or is a cure for arthritis real...? Could me acquiring 250,000.00 easily and for the good of all be real...? What does every one else think is real...? or not real for that matter...?
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"Intention" manifestation is always manifesting your (subconscious) intentions. Therefore, if your subconscious intention is to be living a "normal" life where your conscious intentions don't seem to manifest in any coherent way, then that is exactly what you will manifest. For example, if you go to the grocery store and you consciously decide to manifest an empty parking spot close to the entrance and you get there and there is no spot, you will think "Yup... this crap don't work." which is exactly what you really wanted subconsciously. Here's how I like to think of it. (1) Conscious Intention = 1 point. (2) Conscious Visualization of Intention = 5 points. (3) Saying an affirmation = 2 points. (4) Subconscious Intention = 1,000 points. So, if you "Intend" to get an empty parking spot, visualize it and say an affirmation, you got 8 points total. However, if one of your subconscious beliefs is that "This crap don't work." that's like -1,000 working against you. In other words, since most people are too lazy to rack up the 1,000 or so points to combat the day to day subconscious beliefs in their life, they hardly ever manifest anything consciously and therefore they conclude that IM doesn't work or IM doesn't work for them. I guess another way of saying it is that if you could somehow surgically remove your subconscious mind, you'd instantly be in a "white room" kind of like in the movie "The Matrix" and the instant you had an intention for anything, that intention would manifest in front of you and then disappear the second you stopped thinking about it. It is the subconscious mind that creates the illusion of permenancy by creating and re-creating the world around us hundreds of thousands of times every second. This is why advanced LoA and IM practitioners are all about learning to re-program our subconscious minds. Joe Vitale's book "Zero Limits" is all about clearing these subconscious beliefs and he talks about all the different technologies out there that might help out such as EFT, Ho'oponono (sp?), creative visualization, etc. So, don't for a second think that you are defective and IM doesn't work for you because you are "unworthy" for some reason. Do you have to be worthy for your subconscious mind to make your heart beat automatically? Do you have to be worthy for your subconscious mind to initiate your immune system when your body gets sick? No, it happens automatically whether you're "worthy" or not. Your "worthy" because you were born - period. Don't ever let anyone tell you different. | |
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Yesterday I was really thinking about abundance. Just really re-orienting myself. I turned on my computer, and instead of the desktop background that is usually there (favorite musicians) was a desktop I made ages ago in photoshop of just the word "ABUNDANCE" on a nice gradient blue background. Freaked me out. Occasionally the desktop will change but it's been the same desktop for over a month. I took a screenshot of it to remember it. When I restarted it was back to the old desktop. Come to think of it.... the color scheme was the same as the color scheme I used for a logo I made for my online music yesterday. Goddamn, it's almost the exact same design! Just realizing this right now. |
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So yesterday I closed my eyes for a second and instead of visualizing getting paid for something, or some big project coming to me where I would make a lot of money, I just visualized $100,000 coming to me for no reason. It was hard... I kept fighting $100,000 just popping out of nowhere in front of me --- even in the DREAM WORLD! Someone always had to bring it in a briefcase to me for some reason, like some kind of value I gave them for it first. It was a bit annoying as I should be able to at least imagine money popping out of thin air in a DREAM right!? Anyways...I played around with it for a bit but not too long...I had other things to work on. About 30 minutes later my wife called me upstairs, she was on the phone and she said "Someone just came and dropped something off on the handle of the gate up front." I wasn't expecting anything from anyone. I put on my shoes, walked up to the front of the property up to the gate and there was a Fedex envelope left on the front of my gate, inside a plastic bag. I opened up the envelope and there was a check for $39.25 from Market Leverage in the envelope. I still haven't figured out what it's for. I mean I have some market leverage banners on my site and maybe someone somewhere along the way clicked on something, bought something and I made an affiliate commission but I never received any email about it, any reports, any indication that a check was on it's way. I know, I know... it's just a payment from an Affiliate company, but the WAY it came to me was what was weird. The Fedex guy normally comes to the door...he doesn't just drive by, throw an envelope with a check inside on the handle and speed off. Co-incidentally it happens less than 30 minutes after I was trying to visualize getting $100,000 out of nowhere. It wasn't $100,000, but it was still cool. In fact, I'm gonna go and do some more visualizing. | |
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That's awesome Paul. I guess that forty bucks was an "alpha reflection". I like what you say about the dream world. When I made this logo for my music yesterday, it was a big deal for me because I had fear of "exposing" my music to criticism. So I have some songs on a music site where people can post their stuff. My "avatar" was just blank, and I figured, well let's make some artwork. Keep going. It looks pretty good. So later that evening, for my desktop saying "abundance" to be basically exactly the same as my logo, was just too cool. It's me communicating with me. Here's something else that happened. My buddy sent me an email that said he found some star wars stuff by the trash and he salvaged it for me. I used to be a huge Star Wars nerd. I still read about it but I don't collect anymore. So I'm thinking, "well, that's abundance right? Be grateful." So I get there, and it's a full-size replica of darth-vader's head (yes I'm a nerd), it's a mask where you speak into it and it changes your voice. And I'm thinking "is this the universe sending me abundance? Because even though I wasn't wanting a star wars toy, this is awesome. Is this the universe at work?" As I'm questioning this, my buddy says "yeah as soon as I found it I came back inside and on tv there was this football guy (i think) pretending he had a light-saber and saying "I'm like a jedi out here--so the TIMING WAS PERFECT!" I said "yup, seems to work that way" lol. |
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Thanks Cylon
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In the spirit of positive thinking, I will list some of my IM-tool strengths: 1) I can visualize in vivid detail 2) I can spontaneously induce excitement 3) I have a very high tolerance for repetition 4) I can enter a light meditative state at any time with relative ease #2 is the most interesting for me, as it ties in to 1 in a way I've always known but never saw the potential in (I had my epiphany only just this evening, a byproduct of my recent focus). Ever since I first learned of IM, I worried over my inability to work up any feeling, all the while conveniently forgetting just how much power I had to do exactly that. See, I've always had the capacity to 'energize' myself with daydreams. Indeed, when I was a child, I would get so incredibly thrilled over my imagined adventures I would actually start jumping around like a mad fiend. I didnt make the connection because I was trying to do this "by the book" rather than remembering I had a 100% effective method all my own! I guess the trick now is to adapt this gift in a more controlled manner, and use IM "targets" instead of the escapist fare of my youth. I can't put what I do into words, maybe because it was never something I felt needed examination, but when I push that button I get fired up every time! Last edited by Wax Frog; 06-15-2008 at 03:39 AM. |
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You know today I was at a very crowded mall parking lot. There were two cars in front of me, waiting for spots. To the left of me, up front, there was an open spot. Not sure how the two cars in front of me missed it. Anyway if you're against "research", I suggest the audio book version of "Ask and it is Given". I've had it on repeat for the last few days. Covers basically everything. The book itself is divided into two books in audio format though. |
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But you can get it on iTunes. Go for it. The first twenty minutes or so are all about how it was "channeled" though, so if that doesn't interest you, you can just fast forward. | |
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Ask and it is Given is considered the main text of IM by a lot of people here. I've read a few of these books and it is the one I keep going back to. The audio book is very simple conversational style, nothing technical, no notes to take. Just listen. You can't do better than that. If you do, let us know what you think. |
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Like try as hard as you can to not judge the process, try to "trick" yourself into believing that it's true. I'm not saying trying to go for $5,000 if you normally make $3,000/month. I'm saying, try to manifest like $347,250 or something. Pick a number like that and just keep repeating it in your head...like "Three forty seven....... two fifty!" or something. If you're a doodler, just doodle that number. Just totally immerse your subconscious mind with your number. Play with like doing 1,000 affirmations of "$347,250 is now flowing into my life easily." or something. Then, after a while... just leave it be, and don't focus on it anymore... switch to something totally small... like.... manifesting a four leaf clover or something... or a wink from a pretty girl... or something "free" and supposedly easy to get. I find the more we make LoA a game for fun, rather than something we do as a chore the more it works. Don't just do the "normal" stuff though like visualizing for 5 minutes, then saying 10 affirmations and thats it. Do something most people wouldn't do. Like... write out your $$$ figure you want on 10,000 post it notes and cover the walls of an entire room with it. Or set an alarm clock and try visualizing for 3 hours straight focusing on your number. Or register the domain name ThreeHundredFourtySevenThousandTwoFifty.com and install a counter on it and visualize that for every visitor that goes to that site, the universe will give you a dollar. THen focus on getting visitors to the site. Just do something "different" to stimulate your imagination and to "prove" to your subconscious mind that you really want this specific dollar figure. BTW, don't use the number in this post..pick your own...something that means something to you. There is a dude that told John Chow that he's going to make $10,000 from facebook in 37 days or less and apparently he did it. He emailed John Chow today and told him that he's coming to Vancouver and he's going to give the $10,000 to John Chow. The guy is obviously "playing around" with "the thinking stuff" out there... he set an intention, then went on John Chow and made a bold statement saying what he's going to do... and he would have looked like an idiot if he didn't do it... Anyways, just some suggestions you might want to try. | |
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Visualization has been a bit of a challenge for me. I can do it, it's just that my mind will sometimes only create images it believes it can have. Like I say I want my own apartment, I'll start visualizing, but my mind will at first see a small studio because it thinks that's all I can afford. Or with lots of money, my mind can only see the lottery as being a believable way you can make a ton of cash without "earning" it. But, it's a skill you can develop. That's why you have to do it everyday to overcome whatever resistance is there and literally imagine what you WANT in your life. It's ok. Just like when we were kids imagining what we wanted. We had no resistance so it was not unlikely we would literally think we were space aliens for hours at a time. To me IM means returning to that allowing state, that we had when we were younger and less cynical. |
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Later on, nearing my "tweens", I left that drum on the front bumper of my Dad's car. I came back some time later to find the neighbor's dog had chowed down on it. Looking back, it seems to me this planted the idea in my subconscious that the time for "magic" was over. After that, with a brief respite via "Star Wars", every year seemed to represent an increasing erosion, until I got to the late 1980s and became the kind of mostly-jaded adult all too many do. Good to have you all here to help me take a shot at undoing the "switch"... Last edited by Wax Frog; 06-15-2008 at 05:21 PM. | |
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Of course when the friend tried it, he didn't believe it so you could see him kind of "get ready" to hit the wall and of course he smashed right into it and bounced right off. I also remember different shows where the magical powers were based on an object a person possessed. Basically the person would find a magic ring or a magic hat or something that allowed him to all of a sudden have "powers". Those were definitely my favorite type of shows. | |
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When I was a kid it was HE-MAN and the masters of the universe (yes, I know it was a cartoon). But the phrase, "By the Power of the universe, I HAVE THE POWER" with his sword and the lightning... Way cool... HA! Maybe I need a sword (joke)...
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OK, another goodie of a question has come to mind. It's a refinement of an earlier one: How do I release my subconscious white-knuckle grip on the thought that "this is all I will ever have and even that is being used up fast"? This sums up the recent 'reality' I've created for myself without having to go into somewhat unpleasant and/or overwrought melodramatic detail. |
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It's scarcity thinking. It challenges most of us. Scarcity vs. abundance mindset--just about every thread here explores it. It's something we all dealt with at one point. If you saw the world as abundant and knew your desires would manifest, then.... |
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I think it would be out of place in the "Everything Is In My Mind" thread, so I'll ask here - using it as a taking-off point, how can I get to $100,000 if I see myself as not being able to generate that kind of "value"? At least not in my current situation/attitude (and the two seem inseparable). I cringe at the "inspired action" crowd almost as much as I do the skeptics... Nothing against action, I just can't see how the specific person known as [Wax Frog] can get from A to F via that form of IM Last edited by Wax Frog; 06-22-2008 at 03:54 AM. |
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Abundance: "I will manifest lots of cash" Scarcity: "But my job doesn't pay that much, I don't know how to earn that much money". <--Cancelled intention. So you can't have both. | |
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