manifesting a specific person

[fitx3]

Originally Posted by JMononoetoe

Haha. I think I manifested someone. It was kind of crazy, we seemed to click really well. I'm extremely picky and I seem to have a big checklist, but this girl seemed to pass on all those things in my checklist. To make a long story short, I was extremely in love with her. I still am, in fact.

I really wanted to go out of my way, I wanted to change. I'm not very outgoing and I hardly act on these kind of things, but for her, I felt that I really wanted to change.

But later on I started thinking that a guy like me could never end up with such a girl, I might not be good enough for her.
And guess what? My wish has been granted. She now is with someone else.

No hard feelings though. It's just the way it is, and that's okay. Sometimes ego will jump in with his jealousy, which is kind of silly

In the end I found it to be an educational experience. I really need to work on my confidence

Oh man! I'm sorry to hear how this all turned out for you. Maybe if you start acting cocky around women, they'll want to be with you. Many women are attracted to cocky men, I know several personally. I mean doesn't it all relate, confidence and cockiness? Confidence is believing in yourself, cockiness is behaving a bit careless with your confidence. Believe it and the woman will believe in you too. Presto- you have manifested your desire woman. I don't know, I think it's worth trying.

[fitx3]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

But THAT is why we like that person,BECAUSE they have the qualitities and characteristics that we like! I dont just go around falling in love with anyone,there are reasons why i like them. But i'm past that now where i think a certain guy HAS to be the one...since my "obsession" that i mentioned up there,i have liked about 4 guys since then,although not nearly as much. Of course,they're all famous or semi-famous,but thats cuz i never meet anyone in real life that i like,or that has the characteristics that i like. Now i feel like a freak for just admitting that. But i cant help it.

When I read your very first post about how you met your intended but it was like no big deal, thoughts of that Rock of Love show entered my mind! Which rock star did you fall in love with???

[Tigerlilly]

Originally Posted by cylon

There could be many ones. But to just pick someone and say "you're it", don't you have to be their one as well? You can't force your oneness on them or vice versa.

Of course not, all my thoughts circling this question rely on the assumption that finding your other half of some spiritual DNA strand or whatever would also be a case of mutual attraction. Like in just every other let's get together relationship, if the other person doesn't feel like he or she was meant for you, you're barking up the wrong tree and better move along.

But what if you do have this feeling that there's someone out there you ultimately belong together with and you have no idea who that one might be? I guess we all have our childhood-environmental preferences and dislikes as far as partners go, but this person might not even closely fit into that.

To make a list and jot down all the things you do want in a partner, the mate the Universe considers the ultimate choice for you might not be the one you're describing and you sort of limit yourself. Which I guess is a thing that not only would be true for The One but goes for all relationships that are there to support your growth.

As I said, I'm not sure what to think about The One. All relationships so far supported my growth in some way and I'd rank each of them as positive experiences and am thankful for them. And yet when I look at the men I've met so far, sometimes I have this odd feeling. Where the women I come across in my life seem to mirror aspects of me, the men in my life- not all but at least the ones who had the greatest impact- actually seem to mirror different aspects of one guy to me, some stranger out there. And I wonder, who am I learning about here and why?

Like I said, it's just this odd feeling, and I can be making a mistake here just like with all other assumptions of how life works. Since I've come to believe that life is essentially great either way, it's not the sort of question that keeps me awake at night any longer, but I do wonder about it.

[cylon]

Well I guess it comes down to if you believe in destiny. The type of woman I am attracted to changes as I grow and develop--I wouldn't want to be stuck with who I thought was my ideal mate a couple years ago when I have changed so much since then. I tend to believe that you can find a good mate now, based on who you are this moment.

I also think people come into our lives for a reason. I used to think it was all pre-arranged. Now I think it is as you are focusing on whatever it is, people who match that, will pop up in your life. And you're also popping up in their life. So in a sense there is this connection. I don't think it's all random.

The whole soul-mate thing while very romantic in my view is limiting. If it's an abundant world then it would follow that there's also an abundance of people out there who are perfectly suited to you.

Being afraid to ask what you want because you think it could "disqualify" this potential person... I see it as taking away your power. If I want a girl with characteristics, right now, that my "soul mate" doesn't have, then fine. Find me a new soul-mate.

[Tigerlilly]

Originally Posted by cylon

Well I guess it comes down to if you believe in destiny. The type of woman I am attracted to changes as I grow and develop--I wouldn't want to be stuck with who I thought was my ideal mate a couple years ago when I have changed so much since then. I tend to believe that you can find a good mate now, based on who you are this moment.

I also think people come into our lives for a reason. I used to think it was all pre-arranged. Now I think it is as you are focusing on whatever it is, people who match that, will pop up in your life. And you're also popping up in their life. So in a sense there is this connection. I don't think it's all random.

The whole soul-mate thing while very romantic in my view is limiting. If it's an abundant world then it would follow that there's also an abundance of people out there who are perfectly suited to you.

Being afraid to ask what you want because you think it could "disqualify" this potential person... I see it as taking away your power. If I want a girl with characteristics, right now, that my "soul mate" doesn't have, then fine. Find me a new soul-mate.

Oh, but I do believe in free will. For me IM is living proof of having free will to a dazzling degree. And what you say is absolutely true, I know it through personal experience; whatever you focus on, people and events matching that vibration are bound to pop up in your life. I see it everyday, I need no proof to believe it, I know it.

And I also think the world has an abundant supply of great mates out there for everyone, people to love and be loved by and to grow with, and in a way all these folks are soul-mates cause their soul agrees with your soul to get together and play together.

This twin-soul-theory, there's really not a romantic notion to it, not at least from my pov; just like you wouldn't necessarily think it romantic that every particle in this Universe is supposed to have one anti-particle, or that every DNA-strand has exactly one other half.

It IS an abundant Universe at the surface level and yet, at the heart of it at least to me there is a singularity. So in my pov it'd be only natural to assume that the more you progress towards the heart of the Universe, towards the chore of existence in all aspects, the more the diversity would fall away. So the assumption of two souls which are like particle and anti-particle(complementary but whole in themselves) or like two DNA-strands (two halves of one whole) would be a thing pretty close to the source in my eyes and could be actually some truth out there.

As I said, it doesn't matter to your everyday happiness on a surface existence level, and I don't think for one sec that it's supposed to limit you in any way that there's a twin soul out there if there really was such a thing, but when I look at how the Universe is made up in other areas I think there might actually be something to the theory.

Quiet apart from that I'm not saying that you're afraid to say what you want in a partner if you don't make a list of qualities, but that to say what you want is actually a sign of being afraid and not recognizing the true power and greatness behind the Universe; cause you think some qualities combined in a person would give you the happiness you seek, when actually the Universe might have something much better and more fulfilling in store for you.

Actually making a list of the qualities you want if seen like this, is telling the Universe in what packaging you think the fulfillment you seek should arrive in, and thus encroaching on the "How". If you're out to find a funny, smart blonde than I guess it'd still do the trick, but if you look for true love and the most fulfilling relationship out there for you right now, it might not work as well as it could if you made a list of packaging qualities.

[cylon]

Well the lists and thing like that, are things people do when they "ain't feeling it" and try to get themselves back in vibration with the good stuff. Like if you were always intune with your higher self, you wouldn't need to make so many lists, because what you want will come anyway, and much faster. To be in touch with your higher self means no resistance. So I guess even a "twin soul" could arrive faster because you wouldn't resist them.

I don't know. I used to believe there was someone uniquely just for me out there, but in my own neediness, I ended up putting too much importance on each individual girl, because she is OBVIOUSLY the "one". (she wasn't).

So in my case, or at least how I used to be, having the twin-soul thing would probably push people away. For me it wasn't coming from a place of abundance.

I've wrestled with if I'd prefer just a steady stream of women with no strings attached, or a long term relationship with only one woman. Wanting the latter for me has made me put WAY too much importance on each girl, while wanting the former has made me feel more abundant in general.

Wait but we're talking about you.

[JMononoetoe]

Originally Posted by fitx3

Oh man! I'm sorry to hear how this all turned out for you. Maybe if you start acting cocky around women, they'll want to be with you. Many women are attracted to cocky men, I know several personally. I mean doesn't it all relate, confidence and cockiness? Confidence is believing in yourself, cockiness is behaving a bit careless with your confidence. Believe it and the woman will believe in you too. Presto- you have manifested your desire woman. I don't know, I think it's worth trying.

Haha, it's not like I'm not good with women, in fact, I'm usually pretty good with women. Not in a macho or cocky way, I mean that I usually just get along with girls quite well.
Just when I'm romantically interested in a girl, I can't quite get it to work, it seems.

But I think I'll get it right some day!

[daj]

I tried using the law of attraction on myspace a couple of months ago with different people in my city that I was interested in. My intention was for them to find me on myspace, message me, or add me if they had any interest in me. I would speak my intention to their myspace photo, lol. I know it sounds a bit creepy but I wanted to expeirment with it to see what happened...

I was a bit astonished how it actually worked... I only attracted one exact person who I intended too, and it took weeks for that to happen! But what was really funny was how I attracted a few ex's & best friend's of the people I was interested in. It was almost like some of the people I was interested in had protectors who were looking out for them. Much easier to just send a direct message their way, and see what happens.

[fitx3]

Originally Posted by daj

I tried using the law of attraction on myspace a couple of months ago with different people in my city that I was interested in. My intention was for them to find me on myspace, message me, or add me if they had any interest in me. I would speak my intention to their myspace photo, lol. I know it sounds a bit creepy but I wanted to expeirment with it to see what happened...

I was a bit astonished how it actually worked... I only attracted one exact person who I intended too, and it took weeks for that to happen! But what was really funny was how I attracted a few ex's & best friend's of the people I was interested in. It was almost like some of the people I was interested in had protectors who were looking out for them. Much easier to just send a direct message their way, and see what happens.

Wow! Very interesting.

[Tigerlilly]

Originally Posted by cylon

I don't know. I used to believe there was someone uniquely just for me out there

Gotcha.

Originally Posted by cylon

but in my own neediness, I ended up putting too much importance on each individual girl, because she is OBVIOUSLY the "one". (she wasn't).

The only time I did come across a guy I really thought to be my twin soul, admittedly same thing happened to me. I was about as laid back about the whole thing as Anakin Skywalker about Padme. Only happened once but it turned me from a happy, content-with-life girl into a crying bundle of misery within like three months. At the end of it I didn't want this guy anymore nor ever anything like it, but just a good time with nice guys who didn't go sooo much under my skin. That's what I did get as well, and I can't say that it was all that bad.

Yet during those three months when my focus was on being with this supposed twin soul it was like I was doing a speed course in self-development. I ran into inner roadblocks aka deep fears of which I hadn't even been aware till then, so I wasn't having a good time but, hell, was I burning through baggage. And my guts tell me that where fears are to be faced like the proverbial dragons guarding the treasure, that's where the real goodies are waiting.

Let's face it, a good time is a good time, but if life is about spiritual development, how will one ever learn to swim if one only stays in the shallow?

And if you say you prefer relationships with no strings attached (and believe me, I understand that preference) cause there's a feel of abundance to that, if I look at myself, is that true all the way? Or is it more like well, this doesn't go deep enough to trigger any fears, and that's why I feel good and relaxed about it? What is acting from real inner abundance and what is acting out of inner resistance in disguise?

The way I feel about getting together with any The One in particular right now is that if there really is a twin soul of mine or something like that somewhere out there, we'll eventually get together someday anyway, in this life or some other, so there's no need for me to sweat it. And just like with everything else I'll be doing my lessons in spiritual development till then until I've learned what I need to learn.

[cylon]

I thought the last girl was the one. And I was diving into IM self-development big time (at the time) so it coincided. Sounds like you and I both used a "relationship" as a catalyst for major self-improvement.

Lots of crazy synchronicities regarding her as well, so I was even more convinced. She seemed to be convinced too. Didn't work out.

Now I'm not sure what it was. I think it happened for a reason as I'm much stronger and realistic about relationships now. Especially the last one. I'm tougher now from being weaker before.

So maybe we have multiple twin souls out there. Because I can see how each girl has brought me to new understanding that I wouldn't have had otherwise.

I don't see how to do it without no-strings. Maybe overcompensating for my previous "enmeshment" but I'm tired of putting too much importance on an individual. It takes all the fun and and good vibes away. I'm tired of having women trigger all my fears. It's not fair to them.

So I feel like going to the other extreme for awhile. It'll balance out at some point.

[fitx3]

Cylon, would you mind elaborating on some of the "crazy synchronicities" you mention in the above post? I've noticed some interesting symbolism developing due to some intentions that I have in motion. I'm just wondering if this would be part of the synchronicity stage of these manifestations.

[cylon]

Well they meant something to me, to someone else they probably wouldn't.

But one thing that was common was I'd hear/see her name everywhere. To the point it was annoying me. Especially after it was over.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by cylon

Well they meant something to me, to someone else they probably wouldn't.

But one thing that was common was I'd hear/see her name everywhere. To the point it was annoying me. Especially after it was over.

I had those same syncronicities too,seeing his name everywhere. Seeing things he was interested in popping up every day. But they all meant nothing. The universe is simply mirroring back your thoughts to you. It isnt saying "this is going to work out,and here's proof!" as much as i beleived it was true.

[fitx3]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I had those same syncronicities too,seeing his name everywhere. Seeing things he was interested in popping up every day. But they all meant nothing. The universe is simply mirroring back your thoughts to you. It isnt saying "this is going to work out,and here's proof!" as much as i beleived it was true.

I believe that these "coincidences" may have always been there but you only notice them more when someone occupies your mind.

[cylon]

It's just loa at work. You expect to hear a name so you hear it more often.

[Patty]

Here's a true story.....When I was 18, I met a guy the first week of college. He was cocky and funny. We verbally sparred with each other and it was exciting. It was not physical at all. I wanted to be with him much more than I was. We went out a few times and it was as if we were always in a fight or something. He truly was uncomfortable with me and I suppose I was a bit uptight as well. But we had a distinct connection and we both knew it. Time passed. School ended. We stayed in touch. Six years from that first meeting, our relationship/friendship began again when we were both living in NYC. With some difficulty, it went where it was always intending to be..a full, beyond-platonic connection. We will married 25 years this fall. We have raised two children, one in college and the other one about to begin college. I have always felt that our meeting and subsequent commitment to each other was meant to be. We Needed to get lost from each other, only to find each other again when we were ready. If my experience can be helpful in a way, it would be just this....Having a mental connection with another person, which is stimulating, is where it naturally starts. The other stuff I think is our false expectations which come from the culture we are a part of. If you can turn off the expectations, and just experience every personal connection fully
without judgement, let it take you where it will. And pay attention to how you feel. I guess I don't have magic words. Corny as it sounds, Ann Landers (the advice columnist from yesteryear) has defined love as "friendship that catches on fire".

[Tigerlilly]

Originally Posted by cylon

I thought the last girl was the one. And I was diving into IM self-development big time (at the time) so it coincided. Sounds like you and I both used a "relationship" as a catalyst for major self-improvement.

Lots of crazy synchronicities regarding her as well, so I was even more convinced.

Same thing here, the synchronicities I came across even dated back, freaked me out to think of the Universe as a place so tied together through space and time. And would have convinced any one in my shoes that something was afoot.

Originally Posted by cylon

Now I'm not sure what it was. I think it happened for a reason as I'm much stronger and realistic about relationships now. Especially the last one. I'm tougher now from being weaker before.

So maybe we have multiple twin souls out there. Because I can see how each girl has brought me to new understanding that I wouldn't have had otherwise.

I don't really believe that guy is/was my twin soul, but I think he's at least a soul buddy. I think if there is, there's probably just one twin soul out there but plenty of close souls aka soul mates, who get together with you or cross your path so you help one another to learn about life and grow spiritually. As far as new understanding goes, the same here; though painful, the lesson was invaluable, and if asked, I'd take a deep breath beforehand-admittedly- but I'd do it again.

Originally Posted by cylon

I don't see how to do it without no-strings. Maybe overcompensating for my previous "enmeshment" but I'm tired of putting too much importance on an individual. It takes all the fun and and good vibes away. I'm tired of having women trigger all my fears. It's not fair to them.

So I feel like going to the other extreme for awhile. It'll balance out at some point.

I think everyone who participates in your life does so to the exact extent that he or she does cause his or her soul agrees to do so. There's no fair or unfair, there's just free will for everyone and beyond all the human drama stand immortal souls.

That's talking from a higher point of view. With both my feet in the mud, nevertheless I share you concern for the welfare of those who participate in my life in any way, I wouldn't want to bring harm to anyone if I can help it, and likewise I admittedly would like to stay away from harm myself.

For me, I think my soul has a tendency to distance university to prevent just that, so I don't have to live out any conceivable drama in persona and thus speed up the learning process.( maybe that's what movies were made for as well???) Like last time I was "seriously" interested -and the guy wasn't even within reach- within a few days, the Universe delivered to me a client who totally reminded me of this guy, and who happened to have been beating up his wife for years, I saw a movie about a Mr.Right whose wife had totally lost her life in their marriage and who was cheating on her. And I realised that those were reflections of my own fears in regards to the "serious" attachment I happened to focus on. Like fear of being helpless and hurt, loosing my independance or even worse myself, being betrayed and let down. And I looked at those reflections and thought, oh boy, it's gonna be a long way home to happiness. Pretty much felt like being back in school and just been given a pile of homework.

On the upside I guess it means I can skip living out at least some messy relationships to find out that I'm afraid of those very things and need to deal with those fears and loose that baggage in order to grow.That is somewhat of a relief.

I also think in the end things will sort themselves out naturally if one simply goes with the flow and does whatever feels the right thing for you at the moment.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Patty

Here's a true story.....When I was 18, I met a guy the first week of college. He was cocky and funny. We verbally sparred with each other and it was exciting. It was not physical at all. I wanted to be with him much more than I was. We went out a few times and it was as if we were always in a fight or something. He truly was uncomfortable with me and I suppose I was a bit uptight as well. But we had a distinct connection and we both knew it. Time passed. School ended. We stayed in touch. Six years from that first meeting, our relationship/friendship began again when we were both living in NYC. With some difficulty, it went where it was always intending to be..a full, beyond-platonic connection. We will married 25 years this fall. We have raised two children, one in college and the other one about to begin college. I have always felt that our meeting and subsequent commitment to each other was meant to be. We Needed to get lost from each other, only to find each other again when we were ready. If my experience can be helpful in a way, it would be just this....Having a mental connection with another person, which is stimulating, is where it naturally starts. The other stuff I think is our false expectations which come from the culture we are a part of. If you can turn off the expectations, and just experience every personal connection fully
without judgement, let it take you where it will. And pay attention to how you feel. I guess I don't have magic words. Corny as it sounds, Ann Landers (the advice columnist from yesteryear) has defined love as "friendship that catches on fire".

Thanks for sharing,that was a cool story! And i love that last line...that is why i have to be friends with a guy first because it forms a solid foundation,and you get to know the person as a human being,as they really are,not as somebody trying to impress you and putting on a fake front to get in your pants.