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06-12-2008, 02:12 AM
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  |  I Spoke To Seth!
At least I think so. (And guys, I don't care if you think I'm mistaken or lying). I was browsing in a 2nd hand bookstore yesterday and I came across the book "Seth Speaks". I have heard of this rather famous book before, but never actually read it. (For those of you who don't know, Seth was a non-physical entity channeled by Jane Roberts (a now-deceased psychic). The Jane/Seth channelling is similar to, and predates, the now more well-known Esther Hicks + Abraham. For the Seth books, Jane channels Seth, and Seth speaks through her, annd Jane's husband (Rob) takes notes. The bulk of the Seth books consists therefore of what Seth actually says during the channelling sessions, with an occasional n explanatory note inserted by Rob, to describe what else is happening in the room, during the channelling sessions). Anyway, I bought the book. Last night I started reading it. It was very, very interesting. It was basically LOA mind and reality stuff, but with an altogether different emphasis from "The Secret" and in fact quite a different emphasis from the Abraham books too. In this book, Seth is not interested in explaining things like how to manifest money or a new car or a nice house - he goes for much more profound stuff. Like explaining what thoughts really are; how matter is formed from thoughts; other realities and how they interact with us; reincarnation; ego; subconscious; what the soul is, etc etc. The book is quite thick. After reading it for some time last night, I put it away and went to bed. I woke very early in the morning and started thinking about some of the stuff I'd read. Then I decided to try speaking to Seth myself. I reasoned to myself that if what Seth was saying in the book is true, there is a very good chance I could speak to him. Since time doesn't exist where he "comes" from, there is no question that he wouldn't be free to communicate with me. Since space is also an illusion that applies in our reality but not in Seth's, there is also no real "distance" between us. Once again, as far as I am concerned, it will be a matter of getting to alpha and projecting my thoughts out, like an invitation, to Seth. If Seth wants to speak to me, he will. Essentially the process is not much different from talking to one's spirit guide or higher self (or for religious people, praying to God). The key difference is that I would be attempting to contact a specific entity known as Seth, that is all. Well, Seth came through, and we spoke.  The conversation is personal. We spent some time discussing one particular point that he had mentioned in his book, and which kinda troubled / puzzled me. At another point (and this is what I really want to write about), I asked specifically, "How do I know that I am not just imagining that you're here?". I wanted proof. I asked Seth to tell me something in his book that I had not yet read. Like, give me a very specific reference to something, in some later chapter, which I had not read yet. The answer was something like: "See Jane's father, go hunting." I took it to mean that the book would contain some reference to Jane's father going hunting. Maybe there would be, for example, some reference to some incident in Jane's childhood concerning her father taking her to the woods to hunt rabbits or something like that. I got up in the morning, brushed my teeth etc and picked up the book again. I started speed-reading through the book, scanning for words like "father" or "dad" or "hunting". I flipped and flipped as quickly as I could (because I would have to go to work soon). But it got a bit frustrating because the book is very thick, and it became quite apparent that this was a bit of a needle-in-a-haystack situation. And I was finding nothing about Jane's childhood or father or any hunting trip. Then SUDDENLY I realised that I had already flipped past the reference. I flipped backwards again. And I found it. There was one page where Seth made a brief reference to Rob (who is the recorder of each channelling session) having been ill in Denmark, in a previous life. Right then, in the book, Rob inserted the following explanatory note: Quote:
Seen in this light, the sentence "See Jane's father, go hunting" takes on a new light. "See Jane's father" in fact has a double meaning. It means that there is a reference to Jane's father (indeed there was, and I had found it) and furthermore "see Jane's father", in this context, also means "see what Rob wrote in the book". This is quite a telling clue, because the huge bulk of the book is not Rob's words, but just Seth's words recorded by Rob. The explanatory note: Quote:
And what is "go hunting"? I think it means me.  I had asked for a specific reference in the book, and Seth had given "See Jane's father" as the reference, and then to me, he said, "Go hunting", as in "Now, Mr ALG, go hunt for the reference and see if you can find it." Why would Seth have been so cryptic? Possibly my connection was not so good, and I wasn't picking him up that clearly. But also possibly because Seth was his usual drily humorous self (you need to read the Seth books to know what I mean). He was playing a little joke on me and wanted to see if I would "get it". Or maybe I'm just nuts. But I checked myself in the mirror, I swear I still look quite sane. | ||
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06-12-2008, 03:49 AM
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wow ALG. This is good stuff. I wish you had posted the conversations but its understandable if its personal stuff. When I saw this title on the main forum page.. I suddenly had a thought it could be ALG's thread in the I-M forum, I clicked on it and voila! This is definately a first. I bet you'll be going back? Did he/it clarify whatever questions you had and were they a satisfying response? |
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06-12-2008, 06:33 AM
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Awesome, just awesome. I don't know what's going on with me. Lately, I haven't been able to connect to my guides, haven't had anything come through in dreams, etc. I have had some interesting synchronistic events in my life, but nothing has been mentally flowing lately.  This is very inspirational. I never thought of trying to channel Seth. Hmmm... |
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06-12-2008, 06:35 AM
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If instead I open my eyes and start moving my hand in order to write down stuff, I'm not sure if I could still communicate with the entity. I might become too distracted. Quote:
I'd been reading some magick books lately, and some of them discuss invoking entities / spirits / deities / angels / guides / [whatever]. It's not something I've really tried yet, but suddenly I see that the process is probably just the same as what it takes to reach Seth. Quote:
The other odd thing is that his response comes even before I can finish articulating each question in my head. It's like I mentally say: "Could you please give me a reference ..." and before I can finish the question, he responds: "See Jane's father ... Go hunting." I don't get the sense that he's rude or impatient. It's more like he already gets the whole question, even before I finish thinking it out, and so he responds. | |||
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06-12-2008, 07:02 AM
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Although these entities have their own consciousness, animal or stone spirits as used in Magick would not, at least thats my guess. | ||
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06-12-2008, 08:02 AM
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| Celebrity spirit!
Hi ALG, You spoke to a celebrity spirit there! Very impressive and incredible to imagine that we all can speak to Seth. I am only just coming to terms with LOA and (still) find it hard to take it to the next level, e.g. where I'd talk to my higher self, do the subjective communication you said your wife does, and invoke spirits. After Steve's and Erin's latest podcast I spent some time awake at night realising that all kinds of physical entities would be watching me. Also I watch too many ghost movies, haha! I watched Matrix last night for the first time, and I think the movie is a good help in realising that the physical world is only a projection of our spirit's thoughts, feelings and believes. I feel I'm onto some sort of spiritual breakthrough. I don't think I'm ready to communicate to Seth yet. Could you ask him questions for me? I'm still very much attached to the physical plane and wonder, for example, how long people have been roaming the Earth, how the Earth was created, and if there's life on other planets. OK, got to get back to work. Thanks for sharing this with us and thanks in advance for your reaction(s)! GranCanaria |
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06-12-2008, 08:36 AM
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06-12-2008, 08:57 AM
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Hi Paul! I don't know what I spent my youth doing, but it certainly wasn't watching movies. I'm still catching up and all these references to --and quotes from-- Matrix on this forum really made me want to see it. The video club in my pueblo didn't have it, but fortunately the island's main library did! There's still a lot of things I don't fully understand, so I guess I'll have to watch it another 59 times...  GranCanaria |
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06-12-2008, 09:08 AM
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If you watch the first one, did you notice all the references to Neo being "The One"? For example, his apartment number is 101 right in the beginning. His name "Neo" uses the same letters as "One", etc. There are like literally THOUSANDS of little hidden pieces all over the movie. Pretty much everything is put in on purpose. You'll notice that anytime he's in the "real world" everything is Blueish...every time he's in the "Matrix" everything is Greenish. Man, makes me want to go watch it again. It'd be so cool if the Wachowski's made part 4,5,6 to it or something like Star Wars. | |
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06-12-2008, 01:57 PM
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06-12-2008, 02:01 PM
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Fantastic, ALG! Quote:
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06-12-2008, 06:47 PM
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| seth Hi, to add to this discussion, although seth did catagorically state that he would not 'speak' through another person, owing to his particular relationship with jane roberts, he is contactable. As ALG states, there is no real time ot space between any of us, that includes those who we regard as 'dead' or even not 'born' yet. If you study the seth material and are open to it you can recieve an intutive and direct communication from seth, i have had an experience of this myself. Is it good to remember that seth words, energy, emotion and intent are translated into a form that we can access through the fice senses, i.e a book. Even though this book seems physical it is a 'direct communication' from seth himself. I would also add that we all have our own seth, an aspect of our identity that exists beyond the five senses and has information avaiblable to it that we do not. I guaranteee that other aspects of your own identity will be experienced in a similar fashion to how we experience seth and other personalities. Dave |
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06-12-2008, 07:41 PM
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It would be an interesting experiment to see if you are actually talking to Seth by having a second party (in a different room) pick an object up and hold it and having Seth tell you what the object is.
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06-12-2008, 07:49 PM
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How about automatic writing, ALG? That's how Jane and Rob got started, after the ouija board proved too cumbersome. I'll tell you what, I'll invite Seth or his cohorts in for an AW visit, and ask for some helpful communication for myself and for all of us. I AM inviting Seth for such a visit. Would you please drop in? I would love to host you for a chat, and I am committed to getting what you want me to get. I'm going to take a walk and gestate and will sit down with a pen and paper this afternoon. |
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06-13-2008, 04:24 AM
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06-13-2008, 05:44 AM
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After thinking about it, I am no longer terribly excited about this. It's really no different from the subjective communication methods I've previously mentioned. You can use the same method to communicae with whoever and whatever. Is communication with Seth any more remarkable or noteworthy than, say, communication with Jesus or Shiva or Allah? Millions of religious followers pray to their own gods every day anyway, and while most of these followers don't get a direct response in their minds, a small number do, or sincerely believe they do. And maybe those millions of followers who aren't getting a direct response just never knew about the importance of getting to alpha. There's no end to the flexibility of the subjective communication techniques. There's one chap, Chris Penczak, who describes in his book a method to communicate with your pet dog which is basically a subjecive communication. Communication with Seth sounds exciting, why? Because we kinda perceive him to be a "celebrity" entity, because he's in books etc. But the celebrity thing is our own egotistical projection. I don't think I will be attempting another communication with Seth any time soon; I'd rather talk to my own personal guides. They'd know me better. Still maybe one or more of you can try to talk to Seth or Abraham, and report back ... |
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06-13-2008, 06:08 AM
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Just like if you were to pickup a book in a dream. Prior to flipping the book open to a page, that page did not exist in the dream, and what you see on that page in the book in your dream is what you expect to see in that exact specific moment. What I'm saying probably makes no sense to most of you, but to me this is a HUGE shift in my thinking. | |
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06-13-2008, 07:41 AM
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ALG, i think this is exciting because you are reading seth's book and therefor why not find this a fun and interesting exploration? Seth is a 'celebrity' personality and he has pointed out that we should not put him up on a pedestal, he is a great teacher also. This experience happened for a reason, one that you may not be aware of yet so if I were you I would not stop this exploration because of the reasons you state, this could be fun? I understand whta you are saying, we can communicate with any aspect of reality but the fact is, communication with this personality was easy and interesting. I would add here though that the seth you are speaking to will not be the exact same seth that jane roberts did anyway, you are a different person to jane and seth will be different, even if the aspect of him is a part of the same personality, so why not explore this and see where it takes you with an open mind? Dave |
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06-13-2008, 07:45 AM
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I get these moments of clarity too, but it's hard to stay on that "subjective level" and easy too fall back into "physical world thinking", if you know what I mean. I think I'll throw Matrix back into my DVD player. Wishing you all a great day! GranCanaria | ||
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06-13-2008, 03:33 PM
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The Abraham books are what got me focused on LOA. It felt like they were talking directly to me. ALG - You will definitely get the information you seek with communications with your non-physical self. |
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