Things You Never Knew Existed

[wolfgang]

Program your water with your intentions:
ALIIX - Portal to Your Metamind

Hook up "virtual chakras" with similar water programming software:
12th Project - How It Works

Ask stuff in the forum (common for both Aliix and 12th Project), visited by the creators and users:
Aquaware Forum - Index

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Program your water with your intentions:
ALIIX - Portal to Your Metamind

Hook up "virtual chakras" with similar water programming software:
12th Project - How It Works

Ask stuff in the forum (common for both Aliix and 12th Project), visited by the creators and users:
Aquaware Forum - Index

Wow, this is deep in there, Wolfgang.. ok, you program water to remove any negative vibes and replace it with positive ones...In saw some testiomnials on the forum -

I've been "BLOWN AWAY"...Blissed out(ELATED at times), high energy(Super Arlene), I lost 15 lbs in the last 4 weeks, My ability to heal others has increased , I feel Very in tune but there has been Upheaval as well...MAJOR change (end of a relationship), Some headaches...

....but I have found if you rub them out(massage)Particularly the areas where your skull plates meet that this relieves the headache & also produces a Highly Sensual Experience Cool, There are also some Solar Plexus issues being Released
So if anyone needs healing....What I really think we should do is focus our attention on feeling Light
Aliix is taking me there! Arlene

Have you tried this?

[wolfgang]

yes and wonder if I'm just having placebo effects. I was hoping people might try it out too and ask away in their forum. Or submit critical feedback or scepticism.

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

yes and wonder if I'm just having placebo effects. I was hoping people might try it out too and ask away in their forum. Or submit critical feedback or scepticism.

Then something happened.. how does this work, Wolfgang?

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by nightdiamond

Then something happened.. how does this work, Wolfgang?

I gave up asking them and don't know how it works. They have a forum and defend their product pretty well. It works weather you believe that it works or not- they will tell you.

[nightdiamond]

Products That Are Supposed To Make You Feel Really Good (For No Reason)


I know it's a bit late, but I noticed there are some products out there that claim to make you feel happy, either for the holidays or just in general for no real reason or effort other than to click "play".

One of them I have tried and it seemed to work, the others I haven't, but I'll post their claim...


Holiday Cheer




I know it's late for this one, but the authors of this Paraliminal CD claims that after listening to it, a person will really feel the holiday spirit, as if the holiday came alive for them.

It is supposed to enhance the holiday spirit and really make it come alive for you.

There is also the claim it can make a person simply feel wonderful -

Some enjoy this CD so much that they want us to call it Ecstasy!

That allows a person to listen to it at anytime to feel as if any month or day is like a holiday.

Like most paraliminals, it consists of certain messages to both sides of your brain that you will hear through stereo headphones while in a relaxed state.

Then afterwards supposedly, automatically and spontaneously, you will feel the effects of the programing, which is joy, and holiday spirit in this case...

Happy for no Reason



Another Paraliminal, like Holiday Cheer, this one also claims to make a person feel "happy" cheerful, and joyous for no special reason at all.

Happy for No Reason is a perpetual happiness generator that will spontaneously bring you greater happiness in every area of your life without you having to do anything more than pushing the play button on your CD player or iPod.

Big claim, but is it really that simple???

The programming on this CD is also based on a book by Marci Shimoff, due out soon, who has studied happiness for 30 years.

Here are some more claims for this CD:

- Move past stuck emotions that keep you from enjoying true happiness.

-Develop habits that support sustained positive experiences.

-Learn to forgive others, show compassion, and cultivate gratitude.

-Lean into thoughts that support happiness instead of those that make you miserable, or at the least ho-hum.

Haven't tried this one yet, though curious....



Attitude Activator - Rex Sikes




This CD IS similar to Paraliminals in that it uses multiple voices in the left and right ears and you use stereo headphones, but it comes from different authors and companies.

It has programming that claims to change your attitude in an instant. You can go from feeling lousy to feeling great after listening to it, because it supposedly goes straight to your mental attitude that makes you feel the way you are feeling.

Depending on when and how you listen to it, you can also use it for different results:

People have used it to get up easily filled with energy, to go to bed relaxed, to quit smoking, to gain weight, to loose weight, to exercise more, to eliminate bad habits, to start doing good habits - that's the beauty of this program.

You can use it for multiple desires. Start with one area you wish to improve or eliminate before working on the rest. This tape is a best seller for over ten years

I once listened to this program while outside in the evening at my job, for about 45 minutes. When I came back inside, I suddenly really felt energetic and charged as if I got a load of rest and then just drunk coffee - it seemed to come out of nowhere.

Another thing I like about this program is the voices, it's fun! The female and male voices are sometimes sexy and sensual while they're delivering the messages to you. Along with soothing jazz-like music.

Here are a few of it's testimonials to keep this post short:

"I am HUGELY enjoying my Attitude Activator! I've been using it 4-5 times a week at night just before bed, and occasionally during the day instead of a lunch break. Wow! It really shifts the attitude around and I feel I can tackle anything afterwards; I am usually able to see particularly vexing issues in a new light soon afterwards. Attitude is everything -- yes it's nearly a clichéd term and none the less true regardless -- and your tape provides the perfect shift for the only thing that determines everything."
Walter (Deleted)


"I have listened twice so far to your Attitude Activator tape and it is WONDERFUL. Both of your voices are uniquely great on that tape, and the contrast of male/female (Carolyn's voice is astonishingly beautiful) makes it even MORE effective, I feel. Among NLP kinds of tapes I have listened to, this one is truly extraordinary. Please add me to your list of highly satisfied customers." Sean (Deleted), Miami, FL

Dream Play - Program Your Dreams?




This is not a pleasure CD but it can be interesting. This CD claims to be able to help you have the dreams you want, and then become lucid in them.

It's another paraliminal, so you will need headphones, and you will hear voices in your right and left ears with specific programing for each side of your brain.

On one track, you can choose the type of dream you want to have, the second track helps you to become aware that you're dreaming so you can fully enjoy and interact in them..

I have this program and have tried it... it doesn't always work for me, so I call it "hit or miss" with this. The times it has worked is when I wanted to have an out of body experience and it worked the same night. I simply requested that type of dream at the beginning of the track (you are asked what type of dream you would like to have at the beginning)...

The other time it worked was during a time when I was interested in the concept of meditation and enlightment.. one night I had a dream that I had turned into a crystal-like angel being with vibrations inside that felt unbelieveably blissful.

So for me it worked sometimes, but not for others which could mean a placebo effect, or just another quirk of how these CDs work....

[wolfgang]

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[Raymond Burton]

Hi all, this is kind of late and it goes back to the beginning of this thread. First, I want to thank nightdiamond for posting some interesting things to check out, so this is not in any way a slag at all.

I just love music and understand it instinctually. It comes very easy to me. So I just wanted to say that if anyone would like music similar to the 'Inward Harmony- Music From the Other Side?'... just post up a request here.

It would seriously be easy for me to create and it would be an enjoyable afternoon for me with my gear.

...And yes it would be totally free (spiritual results may vary... )

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by Raymond Burton

Hi all, this is kind of late and it goes back to the beginning of this thread. First, I want to thank nightdiamond for posting some interesting things to check out, so this is not in any way a slag at all.

I just love music and understand it instinctually. It comes very easy to me. So I just wanted to say that if anyone would like music similar to the 'Inward Harmony- Music From the Other Side?'... just post up a request here.

It would seriously be easy for me to create and it would be an enjoyable afternoon for me with my gear.

...And yes it would be totally free (spiritual results may vary... )

Hi Raymond, you're welcome and thanks for adding on to the thread. I've always been interested in things like this and its claims.

Marcey's music comes close to claiming that the sounds on it are the actual sounds from the afterlife. The weirdest claims are how plants are supposed to respond to it.

I like really far out things, something that might cause an OBE, a deep trance or anything similar to that.. can you create something like that Raymond?


I honestly think that in order to experience things like this, we have to be particularly agressive about it, really focused. (From my experience) I don't think it will just come or happen on it's own, unless by accident or at random...



Biocircuits - With this, You can Actually FEEL your Aura....?



The claim is, with this device, you can actual feel the life energy running through your body, and that it can put the user into a deep state of relaxation or trance.

I actually have this device and tried it, and from my opinion, I HAVE felt something, almost everytime I've used it. The first few times I used it, I remember feeling a rushing vibration circulating through my body.

It came in waves, rising and falling, and after about 40 minutes, it came to a complete stop. The strange thing about it is that it attaches to no power source at all. You lie in it like the diagram shows and just relax.

So as far as the claim goes, this device actually deals directly with the "energy body". It has copper wires and screen pads which allows the "bio-energy" to run through them and if everyone has a similar experience, they can feel this energy as it runs through the wires and pads.

A person can supposedly even feel the energy of another person if they connect their bio-circuits to each other's....

Besides this sensation, the main affect felt is deep relaxation and trance-like states. The energy running through this is supposely real, and if one lies in it for too long, the opposite affect occurs, like overdosing on caffiene. This is an effect I've also experienced, when I accidently fell asleep in it- I awoke to feel lots of vibrations running through my body and felt an overcharged, over-stimulated effect.

Another claim is that you can connect a substance to the circuit and then while lying in it, actual feel and ingest the substance as its "vibrations" becomes absorbed into your body....

There are suppedly some actual studies where subjects were tested with fake bio-circuits and real bio-circuitsand in all the tests, only the actual biocircuits were identified as the real bio-circuits by each of the subjects, based on the results they experienced.

Here are some testiomonial/claims from certain bio-circuits users;

G. H.

As soon as I use the Biocircuit I seem to drop into a deep sleep, as if I’m catching up on years of sleep debt. Nothing else does that to me. I am very refreshed, very relaxed after using it.


S. R.

As soon as I began to use the biocircuits I felt much better—more energy, better moods, more optimism. I looked forward to my day instead of dreading it. I use it daily now (without any mix) as a relaxation device and feel it has done a huge amount for me. Thanks!


A.G.

......................Each time I use the biocircuit it has been a different experience. I diluted the mixture as discussed - the sensations are definitely more subtle and have been focussed around the face (numbness) and right temporal bone area (heat). I have found that using the circuit with the mixture has a definite stimulatory effect on my energy so it’s best to not do this too close to going to bed because otherwise it’s difficult to sink into deep sleep.

I have also used the circuit without the mixture - different again - more the steady, pleasantly buzzy 'energy' feel. I can use it this way in the evening and it does not affect my sleep although again, it does seem to have a mild stimulating effect on my energy. My dreams have always been vivid and easily recalled however I’ve noticed that using the circuit has increased this.

I used it Mon - Fri last week : during the day my energy was noticeably stronger and I felt great.

Over the weekend and Monday night I had a break from using the circuit / mixture : bang, yesterday I had another flare up of the symptoms (eye rash, achey eyes, nausea, emotionally down and most of all – the ‘bloody ear /voice’ thing !) – it was like a ‘blast from the past’ from 6 years ago. These were the symptoms that had recently mysteriously reappeared after 6 yrs, before I saw you last Monday. In terms of their activity, the difference between using the circuit and not using it has been significant. The last couple of weeks have certainly been an interesting time.

Anyway, based on all the above, I feel the best thing for me at the moment is to use the circuit nightly (as early in the evening as I can) with the diluted mixture.

And here are the claims about what some users report, taken from the site, biocircuits.info ....

· A consistent balancing, relaxing and energizing of the whole person

· They harmonize nervous system imbalances and relieve stress and fatigue

· They relieve sleeplessness with great success

· They are used to promote sensitivity to subtle energies and to develop or enhance psychic abilities

· They can be used as tools for personal development by releasing hidden emotions, body armour, memories and other ‘knots’

· They can be used to magnify the effects of visualizations, affirmations and reprogramming

· They can be used in preventing or speeding recovery from exhaustion and jet lag after flying


Those are the claims- it's up to the user to decide if it's real and what to do with it.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by nightdiamond

Inward Harmony

deep trance identification
Want the abilities of a famous person you know? Or just someone you admire?

That's it for now, depending on responses any more requests, I'll posts some more strange stuff for everyone to investigate and mull through...

Take care everyone....

D.T.I. for sure works! - all kinds of people, including Athletes do it, along with additional successful techniques.
.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by nightdiamond

Relaxease

Now for people here who have a hard time reaching alpha, trying to meditate, or just want to relax and relieve stress, here is a gadget that can help.

It's a pair of glasses with small lights (LEDS) built inside that flash at a certain frequency, putting the user in altered state quickly. According to the makers, a person can reach alpha or theta in a few minutes. The pulsing lights are also said to be just fun to watch.

The pulsing lights entrain or lure your mind into a state of relaxation, light trances, or hypnotic states depending on what frequency you select and how you use it yourself.

The "pulsing lights" have also caused GRAND MAL-seizures in some people; why would you advertise that??

And you don't need no "alpha, or theta" state, neither - that's NLP-trance work.

Just have someone guide... you, in learning self-hypnosis: works for near everything
.

[Raymond Burton]

Hey night diamond. I'll see what I can come up with. I'll post it up here when I'm done. In the meantime, I did this one:
Music For Meditation Mp3 : Raymond L. Burton - The Happy Soul

Make sure you use headphones... if you experience anything, let me know. I just make the music, it will cause a response in the person thats looking for it.

[JMononoetoe]

:: About ALIIX

Originally Posted by wolfgang

yes and wonder if I'm just having placebo effects. I was hoping people might try it out too and ask away in their forum. Or submit critical feedback or scepticism.

I tried it out a month or two ago or something like that. I was and I still am very sceptical about it. I mean, I'm all in for spirituality, but I actually can't get a grasp on how ALIIX works. As a computer geek, I can't help but think it looks like a fancy visualization.
I also asked away at the forum, and I also didn't get any wiser.

The water did taste nicer though, although it also might be the placebo effect.

Then again... Is there really any difference? It's not like the placebo effect is a bad thing. It's actually a fine example of demonstrating universal rules

[JMononoetoe]

By the way, does anyone know where I can read a little more about deep trance identification? I could just Google it, but I'm not really sure how good the results are

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by JMononoetoe

By the way, does anyone know where I can read a little more about deep trance identification? I could just Google it, but I'm not really sure how good the results are

Hi JMononoetoe, Deep Trance Identification is just one of the names for this concept, depending on which method is used and the author of it.

I've known about it for a long time and have always been interested in it, but have not tried it yet, so I cannot say for myself that it absolutely works-though it is interesting.

It basically involves identifying a skill you would like to have that another person possesses or if they lived in the past, possessed. Then under a deep trance like state, you identify with the person and gain that person's abilities, behaviors, strengths, skills.

What makes D.T.I interesting is the slight paranormal claims behind it. Even if the person lived centuries ago, that person's abilities can be accessed.

Dr. Vladimir Raikov, a Russian researcher, who hypnotised art students to believe that they were Great Masters such as Leonardo da Vinci, Raphael or Rembrandt. The results were astonishing in that the students started to create very credible art work during the course -- even if they had never painted so much as a smiley face. He was able to replicate these results in other fields such as healing, where students were given the name and personalities of great healers.

There are other versions of the same method:

".................Especially memorable was the experience of a participant whom I shall call "Mary." Like all of us, she had agreed to embark upon some new learning experience just prior to the workshop. She chose the violin. Mary had her first lesson just one week before our experiment. Until that time, she had never touched a violin in her life.

The week following our workshop, Mary had her second lesson. She worked as a secretary in a Washington office and had only a moderate amount of time to practice.

Nevertheless, after Mary had played a few minutes, her astonished instructor announced that he was going to reenroll her in his advanced class! At our second experimental workshop, just a few weeks later, Mary gave a fine concert with her violin.
Mary owed her precocious ability to the "Raikov Effect."

The method mention above is one version D.T.I and in this case, Mary who never touched a violin before then, was giving a solo concert after just a few lessons.

Using deep hypnosis, Soviet psychiatrist Dr. Vladimir Raikov made people think that they had become some great genius in history. When he "reincarnated" someone as Rembrandt, the person could draw with great facility. Later, the subject remembered nothing. Many would scoff in disbelief when shown artwork they had done under hypnosis.

The person who was made to think he was Rembrandt, had no previous artistic skill whatsoever. His artwork was so impressive that he was later hired as a professional artist.


With the D.T.I version, it is based on the theory that living things leave information inside an energy field, which can be accessed through the proper deep relaxation and visualization method.

The different names and versions for it are "artificial reincarnation", which is based on the work of Dr. Vladimir Raikov, and this is what D.T.I loosely based on, - "Borrowed Genius", which is Wen Winger's version, and of course, Deep Trance Identification, which is by Lee Pulos.

Hey night diamond. I'll see what I can come up with. I'll post it up here when I'm done. In the meantime, I did this one:
Music For Meditation Mp3 : Raymond L. Burton - The Happy Soul

Make sure you use headphones... if you experience anything, let me know. I just make the music, it will cause a response in the person thats looking for it.

Thanks Raymond, I went to the site and took a listen- I liked the sounds of the monks chanting, had a nice unexpected lingering effect even though you mentioned there would be monks chanting. It hard to forget the sounds of those monks chanting.

The "pulsing lights" have also caused GRAND MAL-seizures in some people; why would you advertise that??

And you don't need no "alpha, or theta" state, neither - that's NLP-trance work.

Just have someone guide... you, in learning self-hypnosis: works for near everything

Hi sk8joyful, thanks for the reply - on the pulsing lights, YES, you are right, it is advisable to be careful with these (and avoid using them) if you have any history with seizures or anything similar.Flashing lights have been known to cause them, I'll put any advisory or warnings next time if the device or program or whatever has any risk to it, thanks for the info, sk8joyful.


For me, I like using Alpha or Theta states when I either experiment with something or explore other-than-ordinary states. The sounds or programs that help you do this can drive your mind into that state much faster and deeper than usual.

I don't just listen to the sounds, but use them as tools- to explore deeper states , practice methods, and other things like visualization, which can include self hypnosis....

Actually I generaly believe the best results with these types of things can come in the awake conscious state, with focus, persistence, and intensity...

For example just saying to myself repeatedly "This is a dream" (with intensity) during the day, I caused myself to have a lucid dream a few days later, in which I recognized I was dreaming because- I suddenly said to myself, 'this is a dream!"

I'm just not into "shoulds", or "this is the right way"... I like to experiment. Actually, when it comes to subjects like this, I think a good way to approach this is to consider there may be more than just any one way to do something, like taking the elevator, taking the escalator, or taking the stairs, or just driving up another level...

Take care....

[Acting Like Godot]

Some of you will think I'm joking, but seriously I am not.

Sometimes I use metaphoric forms of LOA visualisation. What do I mean? Well I go to alpha and I think about my intention and then I keep my mind very still, and allow my subconscious to generate an image representing that intention. Then I start playing with that intention.

On one occasion, my intention was to be very outstanding at work. I kept my mind very still, and the image of Beowulf popped into my mind. For those who don't know, Beowulf is a mythical hero who goes around killing big monsters etc. He's big, strong, powerful etc and gets into huge fights with all kinds of evil dragons etc.

So I played around with the image of Beowulf and worked with the idea of a "corporate warrior". I guess you could say that I did a "deep trance identification" with Beowulf. This is my blog record of the mind session:

Promotion & Bonus & Outstanding Work Performance « Constructions of the Mind

What happened? In the next few days, I was an extremely bad-tempered and aggressive person at work. Like a dragon-slaying warrior who's not going to put up with any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from anyone. This is really not my normal self - usually I am quite mild-mannered and pleasant.

In addition, I spontaneously developed a number of physical injuries (even though I hadn't done anything, like play sports or carry heavy things etc). My neck hurt, and my knee hurt so bad I could not walk, and my finger became swollen.

My suspicion was that the injuries had something to do with visualising myself as Beowulf. This is what happens when you visualise yourself as someone who goes around having violent fights with big monsters. You suffer the physical ill-effects of doing all that fighting.

Such A Strange Weekend « Constructions of the Mind <---- ignore the last part of this post, it's a separate story.

[allirowe23]

I would love to try all of these things but I'm a college student, these aren't affordable to me. I don't understand why basically all material on these subjects has to be expensive. I think it should be closer to the cost of other books and cds, and maybe even check-outable from a library. People that are already conscious and persuing personal development will pay these amounts for these producs but what about skeptics? Or even just unconscious people who could become conscious by reading them? It's like intentionally keeping these ideas secret.

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by allirowe23

I would love to try all of these things but I'm a college student, these aren't affordable to me. I don't understand why basically all material on these subjects has to be expensive.

I think it should be closer to the cost of other books and cds, and maybe even check-outable from a library. People that are already conscious and persuing personal development will pay these amounts for these producs but what about skeptics? Or even just unconscious people who could become conscious by reading them? It's like intentionally keeping these ideas secret.

Hi Allirowe, I completely understand how you feel. What's more, I am usually skeptical of these types of ideas and concepts. I like to know/experience these types of things for myself, or I'll never truly be satisfied.

So eventually I learned to be more aggressive in proving these things to myself so I WOULD be satisfied, and once I was satisfied, I wasn't as concerned anymore with other people's skeptical feelings about the subject.

So one of the first things I do if I become interested in a subject is to deeply (and critically) investigate it and filter out any junk, BS, or scams long before I even consider paying anything on it. (If I think it's genuine after that, then the money I spend on it is worth it)

Take the Bio-circuits for example, I was immediately skeptical, and I still hold a slight skeptical attitude towards them. After investigating them, and scrutinizing the "double blind studies" about subjects choosing the "real" bio-circuits over the fake ones, I was curious enough to buy a set.

I was still skeptical too! But I was surprised to have actually experience what they described in the literature, even the part about lying in one for too long and feeling overstimulated.....


Still, I understand your point. Some, if not all of the products on this thread can be either built in your own more cheaply, and for programs there are either different free versions that can do almost the same thing.


For example, with the bio-circuits, they can be built at home if you have at least 4 long copper speaker wires, and 4 copper screen plates. Or to go even further (or cheaper ) if you're creative enough, you can even use what you can find in your own home right now, as long you know how to build it right and connect them properly.

And there are many methods, techniques and discoveries out there waiting to be read and tried- I think focusing, practicing and being persistent is the key.

For example with D.T.I one simple version of it involves simply imagining putting on the head of someone else who has a skill you want...


So in one way, you can use a simple free voicless meditation program you found somewhere and get awesome results, it's what you do with your mind and focus while listening to it that really makes a difference in my opinion.


Still if there is something specific you're interested in, but it's expensive please let us know .......



Acting Like Godot- I can't say for sure, but it looks like another basic example of it, whether it was D.T.I or not.

It reminds me of an article where a person was being bullied, so he listened to a special hypnosis tape on magnetism (paraliminals again) where he modeled Darth Vader. The article said the bullyings stopped

[Raymond Burton]

Offhand, has anyone run into free downloads of alpha,theta or beta mp3s or similar 'state' inducing recordings. I have a couple but they are too short and I'd like a little more variety.

I had 'the zapper' but I deleted it by mistake. No loss though, it was horrible sounding. Buzzed me out but sounded horrible.

[Arboretor]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

So I played around with the image of Beowulf and worked with the idea of a "corporate warrior". I guess you could say that I did a "deep trance identification" with Beowulf.

If you want to improve your LOA skills, why not make a deep trance identification with Jesus

(PS: I do mean that serious!)

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by Arboretor

If you want to improve your LOA skills, why not make a deep trance identification with Jesus

(PS: I do mean that serious!)

The thought also occured to me too, not Jesus, exactly, but if with this method a person can gain the skills and even personalities of other people, even if they lived centuries ago, you think, how far can one go with it?

What makes D.T.I (Lee Pulos version) a bit different is the slight metaphysical slant to it. His is based on the theory that living things leave information in a field called "the M field" .

As the idea goes, when a person goes into a deep trance and access a particular person's "M field" (identifies with the person) they gain the same abilities or personality traits that person had, even if the person lived centuries ago.


It sounds crazy, but if you can believe the claims, a young woman who never touched a violin before did one session of it, where she identified with Jascha Heifetz, a well known violinist and went directly to the advanced class. And after a few more sessions, performed a solo violin concert for her workshop.

And a man who reportedly had no artistic ability whatsoever, identified with Rembrandt repeatedly. His paintings went from crude to highly skilled and he eventually was hired as a professional artist. Supposedly, after coming out of each session, he refused to believe he painted what he was shown to him....


It could be wishful thinking, placebo effect, or it could be genuine or a little bit of both. At the very least it's interesting- and an interesting tool to have.....

Offhand, has anyone run into free downloads of alpha,theta or beta mp3s or similar 'state' inducing recordings. I have a couple but they are too short and I'd like a little more variety.

I had 'the zapper' but I deleted it by mistake. No loss though, it was horrible sounding. Buzzed me out but sounded horrible.

Raymond, I have come across quite a few brainwave recordings along with programs- BWGEN is a program that generates pure brainwave tones and is free, but has limitations to it unless you purchase the full version.

Is there any particualr result you are wanting to experience with these?

I like to choose my brainwave sounds (or any meditation music or technique) according to the specific results I want, every since I've started doing that, I have the most interesting experiences with them and can meditate deeper and longer with them now....

[Raymond Burton]

Hi again NightDiamond. When I first started doing this I used to use a 30 minutes cd of drumming and sometimes rattling. With those, I ended up taking some really memorable 'journeys'. The only thing is they were pretty deep and didn't make too much sense to me, kind of. They were interesting though. What I am looking for now is something that will help with the "where did that 30minutes to an hour go' sort of feeling. So I can do some LOA stuff as well. Of course seeing lights and being visited by a spirit guide would be a bonus :-)

[Arboretor]

I sometimes use music from Free Meditation Music

But meditation music really depends a lot on personal taste - not all music is for everyone. You have to try it yourself.

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by Raymond Burton

Hi again NightDiamond. When I first started doing this I used to use a 30 minutes cd of drumming and sometimes rattling. With those, I ended up taking some really memorable 'journeys'.

The only thing is they were pretty deep and didn't make too much sense to me, kind of. They were interesting though. What I am looking for now is something that will help with the "where did that 30minutes to an hour go' sort of feeling. So I can do some LOA stuff as well. Of course seeing lights and being visited by a spirit guide would be a bonus :-)

Hi Raymond, I understand you. In the beginning, I used to use brainwave soundtracks after I would read testimonials of people claiming they had intense visions and OBE like experiences after listening to them. And in many of them, claimed only after a few minutes of listening to them.

I think some of the promoters were just promoting only the best, most memorable testimonials, and leaving out the more common experiences many people have.

The testimonials would make it sound as if all they had to do was just listen, and the sounds would take them there automatically, and they had vivid visions and conversations with higher selves, spirit guides, etc.


But when I listened, basically only 2 things would happen: after about 45 minutes or so, nothing would happen, and I would get bored and disappointed (no visions, no ESP, no nothing!) and my mind would start to chatter and I would end up stopping the whole thing.

The other thing that would happen is I would end up falling asleep while listening and wake up with no memory of anything and still felt disappointed.

My conclusion was that if you simply listen to the sounds with no real purpose in mind, they will either lure you into sleep, or you will get bored and quit listening eventually.

Eventually and over time, I decided to approach it differently-I started to experiment. Since the brainwave tones moved the mind from an alert to a relaxed, sleep like state, I began to learn to practice staying awake longer and longer while listening.

One way was to say to myself, "that was a dream image", each time I saw one flash before my eyes. It would wake me up slightly and keep me alert. Eventually after doing this for a time, I could stay in that "borderline" state for as long as the cd played (50 minutes).

Then I switched to a Theta-Delta cd where the brainwaves drive your mind into a deep almost sleep like state, called the "borderline" state. (between alertness and sleep). I practice the same thing regularly and found I could hold the state even after the CD replayed itself several times.

Since the CD was about 50 minutes, it added up to almost 2 and half hours. And that was where some of the more interesting things would happen. But I also learned something else about my approach, and that was to have a very specific purpose about what I wanted to experience or do.

When I did that, I started having even more experiences, like remote influencing in particular, lucid dreaming, experimenting with "manifesting", strange experiences...


I agree with Arboretor, not all music or sounds are suitable for everyone, even with the technology behind it, if the sounds annoy people, it won't be as affective.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by Raymond Burton

Offhand, has anyone run into free downloads of alpha,theta or beta mp3s or similar 'state' inducing recordings.

But (without all those), you can naturally Induce any States you want...

[Raymond Burton]

NightDiamond that was awesome. Thank you. There were things in what you said that I could personally relate to and the things you experienced I've had teasers of. I took a lot from that reply. Again thanks. I'm at a place now where I have the time to experiment with that.

[nightdiamond]

Originally Posted by Raymond Burton

NightDiamond that was awesome. Thank you. There were things in what you said that I could personally relate to and the things you experienced I've had teasers of. I took a lot from that reply. Again thanks. I'm at a place now where I have the time to experiment with that.

Thanks Raymond, I'll give a quick example of one of the things I experienced to give an example, then I'll shut up

Last year, when I was listening to a theta\delta on a regular basis, one night I decided to just experiment without being serious. I was reading up so much on remote influence, that I decided to try it.

At this point, I had already realized that if I wanted to actually experience something, I would have to have a very specific result I wanted to experience, along with a strong, persistent intention.

I decided on remote influence and seduction because I had read some things on the subject, and since I wasn't looking for anyone and was only experimenting,

So I listened to the theta\delta cd for a bit, counted down from 60 to 1 and came close to the borderline state...

Then I started sending out the the thought, "you can approach me", "I'm looking for a relationship" "This is what I offer you" etc....

Then just to add on to it, I took several slow, deep breaths and sent the energy that resulted from them into the messages , sort of like boosting or charging the messages with the energy. All of this was late at night.


The next day, (And this is the truth!) when I was at work, I was approached by a customer who asked me some questions about some items. Then came a small conversation, and then then the person asked if I was married/was in a relationship etc.

The customer asked me out, and was very aggressive getting about getting my phone number and wanting me to guarantee that the number wasn't a fake.

When I analyzed the whole thing later, I realized it could have been simply a coincidence as these things happen, or that since it happened the very next day after I tried this and considering the messages I used, who knows?

I definetly won't say the same thing will happen for anyone else, like it did as I experienced it, or if it was the real thing, only what happened the next day after I tried it.

Considering if what happened was real, I wonder what I did different to have gotten a response like that and if the deep breathing and charging the messages had anything to with it.

But (without all those), you can naturally Induce any States you want...

Hi sk8joyful - I had same thoughts too not too long ago...I didn't want to be dependent on brainwave sounds to reach a relaxed state, so I would also practice without them too.

One thing I found was that listening to the theta cds so much conditioned me to go into a deep state out of habit whenever I closed my eyes and relaxed.

I also like using the headphones because they block out outside sounds and get the job done!

Take care everyone.....

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

DNA activation via soundscapes:
DNA Activation Music - 12 strand DNA - 22 strand DNA

So I got the Level One DNA soundscape and first time I played it a couple house circuits failed, but no fueses popped. The powered speakers were on the circuit that cut off. I went to the main line house fuse box and as soon as I went to pull the fuses, like my hand became within an inch of the fuse handle, the circuits went back on. Then once I was playing it in my car, pulled off to get gas with it playing, then the whole car stereo system just stopped making sound. It looked normal, with the LEDs that it uses to show radio/CD/tape volume etc... But what ever I tried to switch to, no sounds. A even turned the unit off and on. Same strange state. Then I totally turned the car off, by taking the key out of the ignition. Then turned the key, didn't start the car - and the car stereo was back to normal. They said in their doc that the CD can do weird things like repeat sections or not play right but then later plays fine.

I do find that it sounds different after listening to it a couple times. I hear something that I didn't hear before, very layered sound.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by nightdiamond

Biocircuits - With this, You can Actually FEEL your Aura....?



The claim is, with this device, you can actual feel the life energy running through your body, and that it can put the user into a deep state of relaxation or trance.

I actually have this device and tried it, and from my opinion, I HAVE felt something, almost everytime I've used it. The first few times I used it, I remember feeling a rushing vibration circulating through my body.

I made my own biocircuits and they work for me. There is a big difference in meditating with them. The body feels more energy based with them. There are two basic ways to connect. There's a polarity.

1) The left hand holds a copper tube connected by a wire to a mesh for the head. Right hand to a mesh for the tailbone. That config relaxes or perhaps allows the nerveous system to connect itself to the body better.

2) The opposite - right hand/head & left hand to tail- makes for activation or restlessness.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by JMononoetoe

:: About ALIIX


I tried it out a month or two ago or something like that. I was and I still am very sceptical about it. I mean, I'm all in for spirituality, but I actually can't get a grasp on how ALIIX works. As a computer geek, I can't help but think it looks like a fancy visualization.
I also asked away at the forum, and I also didn't get any wiser.

The water did taste nicer though, although it also might be the placebo effect.

Then again... Is there really any difference? It's not like the placebo effect is a bad thing. It's actually a fine example of demonstrating universal rules

What was your id in the Aliix forum? There was some far out spiritual "truths" tossed about by the creators of the software. Like saying there is no such thing as free will, it's all like a script that we wrote or something wrote that is being played out exactly. Even the part about us thinking we have free will is scripted.

I wished people from this forum would try it out and asked lots of questions to their forum. They need to be responsible for what they create and sell and it's interesting stuff they claim. Of coarse there's disclaimers but then in the write up they claim opening of vertual chakras with the 12th project software.

They say you don't have to believe it to have it work. So then, that means you don't have to have a placebo effect that makes it effect you or your environment. I like the idea that water can hold more information than we give it credit. That the molecules can arrange like snowflakes of all different kinds that become like homeopathic medicine that vibrates certain ways and is recognized by one's cells to do whatever the vibration brings about through sympathetic vibrations. That doesn't seem to far fetched. What allways seemed far fetched was getting the vibrations/frequencies into the water without magnets or electromagenetic fields arranging the moluecules.