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Old 05-11-2008, 03:10 PM
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On this forum there's a wide range of personal development and a fair bit of attention to different types of diet. Many people are adopting diets that become more and more restrictive . . . people move from vegetarian to vegan to raw food only, and even do water fasting. From a LoA/IM standpoint, none of that should be necessary for perfect health, should it? A person would be able to declare, "In my universe, it's very healthy to eat meat and sugar and processed food," and experience it for real.
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I think they are completely separate motivations.

People who are open minded and those who shun conventional wisdom tend to congregate in places like this and it's by sheer chance that LOA and diet get discussed in the same forum by the same people.

Don't let the experiments of some make you feel like you are "less than" because you enjoy a diet without restrictions. That's limited thinking.

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I think that if you really hold to the idea that your every thought helps create your reality, and nothing but thought shapes the reality, you're probably right. But then beliefs would probably become an issue. Do you believe deep down that you can eat nothing but junk 7 days a week and still be healthy?

And maybe if you view it in that light it is easier to actually regulate your diet vs. convincing yourself that a non-restrictive diet is healthy and using IM for health that way.

But then maybe if you start intending perfect health and such you'll start attracting less meat so the problem will automatically be solved.

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My question really is more about extremes. If people truly believe in subjective reality and IM, that we manifest our own reality, that thoughts create reality -- then why would they go to extremes in diet like water fasting, restricted diets where only raw food is allowed, and so on? What would be the benefit of that, if we could make a declaration about food that fits within what more people would call reasonable guidelines?

Yesterday I picked up a tome by Gary Null which is about 300 million pages long, and it's about living forever through diet. I tried to take a look at it today but it makes me feel immensely tired. Is it easier to jump through all those hoops, 300 million pages of guidelines, a truckload of supplements, gallons of (fresh, organic, home-squeezed) juice every day, gallons of water every day, no meat/dairy/wheat/etc. . . or is it easier to eat a diet which most people we know would agree is a reasonably healthy one, and declare as reality, "I am in excellent health and I feel great!"

If we are creating our own reality, why are some of us, for instance, creating a reality where a raw food diet is the healthiest one, when it's so utterly restrictive?

Jennihul -- what about the blood-type diet? Why, if we can create any reality we desire?
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Hi,

what you see here is simply the power of beleifs. We do create the effects that food has upon us and have strong beliefs about the food we eat.

For me, I choose to beleive that all that I eat enhances my health, that allows me to have alot of freedom about my diet and its effects. I also eat what I feel like eating, some days I will get a sense that certian types of food would suit better and I try to follow the feeling.

The power of belief is absolute and enourmeous and the various diets that people undertake are driven by their beleifs and ideas, change those beleifs and you can change the diets.

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What would be the benefit of that, if we could make a declaration about food that fits within what more people would call reasonable guidelines?
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If we are creating our own reality, why are some of us, for instance, creating a reality where a raw food diet is the healthiest one, when it's so utterly restrictive?
We create through consciousness, not thought. You can think "bacon and Red Bull are great for me" all day, but until consciousness un-links food from health, you'll have to stay within the boundaries of diet you believe in.

The linkage that food creates health is the problem. If I want health then I have to eat these foods. If I don't eat these foods, I will not have great health. That's all a crock.

Food does not create health.

The choice for health creates health. Period.

Consciousness has got health linked to food, vitamins, exercise, sunlight, stress... a ton of stuff. And it plays a game of denial with it. You can deal with it or not. It's not wrong to play with this programming, it's just what you're playing with right now. If you want to begin the process of unlinking the choices and enjoy your eating for eating's sake, you can do that too. You'll need to focus your consciousness differently.

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Hi,

what you see here is simply the power of beleifs. We do create the effects that food has upon us and have strong beliefs about the food we eat.

For me, I choose to beleive that all that I eat enhances my health, that allows me to have alot of freedom about my diet and its effects. I also eat what I feel like eating, some days I will get a sense that certian types of food would suit better and I try to follow the feeling.

The power of belief is absolute and enourmeous and the various diets that people undertake are driven by their beleifs and ideas, change those beleifs and you can change the diets.

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Jennihul -- what about the blood-type diet? Why, if we can create any reality we desire?

Well, in my opinion you can't actually create any reality you desire. I disagree with many of the "magical thinking" LOA proponents on that topic. Not on the level in which we currently reside in this spiritual universe.

I believe you can, in conjuction with existing physical laws, create a reality that fits into "reality" as we know it. Not that man can fly if he believes it hard enough. Or that cancers can automatically revert. Or that eyes can switch color. Or that allergies can miraculously disappear. Or that human blood/immune systems can stop reacting as they have for thousands of years to substances they deem as foreign and hence dangerous.

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You are what you eat... junk in junk out... I've heard that all my life and now I believe it with all my heart. Try eating super healthy for at least 1-2 weeks and see if you then can think more clearly, concentrate better, meditate better and have better control over your thoughts.... you won't know unless you try..
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I doubt anyone can truly, 100% believe that they live in a subjective reality. Maybe Steve Pavlina and a few "exceptional" people can, but for the most part, no. For most of us, there will always be an objective, physical reality. If you eat ****, you will feel like ****, and get fat and tired.
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Hi moonrambler, and everyone else....

I would like throw in something...

A very simillar idea exists with money. The more you have, the less spiritual it can make you . Or some would call it distracted.

So, as a result some very noted gurus and swamis have made negative statements about possessing money. Then a bit further, some have suggested to stop being concerned about bills, rent, and retreat into the caves to meditate, ect. Then more extreme, the idea you can't possibly ever become enlightend as long as you live in a house in a city with any type of modern convenience. And finally there is the image of the guru wearing nothing and owning nothing except a loin cloth sitting peacefuly in the sand, eyes closed in meditation.

Not a guru sitting on his porch wearing a t-shirt or jeans but usually just that.

It gets more and more extreme and even the gurus and scriptures tell funny stories about the obsession.

The ironic thing is that it may be easier for a wealthy person to approach enlightment simply because he or she has the time and place to meditate in peace. And in order for meditation to give benefit, one has to focus.

On the other hand the working class or poorer person may have a harder time meditating when he or she is distracted by thinking of paying the bills, fixing the car in order to get to work, ect...

Even the wiser gurus have admitted leading a lifestyle of self denial and meditating doesn't always mean one reaches their goal.

I think one way of looking this is it's ok to care of physical and emotional needs first in order to be able to meditate, focus or follow a spiritual practice in peace without distraction.

That one way I have of seeing, what does anyone else think?

Take care........
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I agree that it shouldn't matter what we consume diet wise. I believe if one is content in their food choices and happy with what they eat that will in turn create a happy more relaxed person.
I know for myself that my mind is clearer and free for other things when i eat a diet of things i enjoy and love - they do include sugar, caffenie, meat , & fats. I wish I could say lots of vegi's but the gag reflux hasn't quit that I had as a child.

There have been times in my life where I forced myself to eat a"healthy" diet without the sugars, caffenie, fats, ect. I ate lots of vegis - my mind was cluttered, I thought about my next meal all the time, my focus was on food. I wasn't happy and my body composition wasn't all that different. After the birth of my third child (I gained an average of 60lbs with all four) I decided to eat 'my way' and be happy. I was happy. My mind was fre to think of other things, the weight all came off.

I believe I am a better, clearer channel for whatever when my mind is free of thoughts about food. I eat a wide variety of things and don't limit myself to what others think is "healthy". I believe that I create good energy, whne i love what I put into my body. In three years of allowing myself to be me - I have been way more in tune to the universe than i ever have before in 32 years of life.

Having The freedom to be "me" is the best way i can live. Do what's right for you.
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Many people are adopting diets that become more and more restrictive . . . people move from vegetarian to vegan to raw food only, and even do water fasting. From a LoA/IM standpoint, none of that should be necessary for perfect health, should it? A person would be able to declare, "In my universe, it's very healthy to eat meat and sugar and processed food," and experience it for real.
Basically, all your beliefs rank in some kind of hierarchy. Some are more fundamental and are difficult to change (assuming that you wanted to change them). Others are held at a more superficial level and are easier to change.

Sometimes the key to using the LOA is to know which belief you want to change or build. For example it may be easier to keep this belief:

"Fruits and vegetables are good for my health; while meat, sugar and processed food are not"

and build this new belief:

"I really like eating fruits and vegetables"

rather than change this belief:

"Fruits and vegetables are good for my health; while meat, sugar and processed food are not"

to this belief:

"Fruits, vegetables, meat, sugar and processed food are all good for my health"
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Well, in my opinion you can't actually create any reality you desire. I disagree with many of the "magical thinking" LOA proponents on that topic. Not on the level in which we currently reside in this spiritual universe.

I believe you can, in conjuction with existing physical laws, create a reality that fits into "reality" as we know it. Not that man can fly if he believes it hard enough. Or that cancers can automatically revert. Or that eyes can switch color. Or that allergies can miraculously disappear. Or that human blood/immune systems can stop reacting as they have for thousands of years to substances they deem as foreign and hence dangerous.

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But some of the things you mention do happen. Some people have cancers that disappear without (conventional) treatment. And sometimes allergies miraculously disappear.
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I doubt anyone can truly, 100% believe that they live in a subjective reality. Maybe Steve Pavlina and a few "exceptional" people can, but for the most part, no. For most of us, there will always be an objective, physical reality. If you eat ****, you will feel like ****, and get fat and tired.
And Steve, who is a big proponent of subjective reality, has a diet which is becoming extremely restricted, and says he feels much better eating this way. I don't understand the choice to have a subjective reality where people feel much better if all they eat is raw food.
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You are what you eat... junk in junk out... I've heard that all my life and now I believe it with all my heart. Try eating super healthy for at least 1-2 weeks and see if you then can think more clearly, concentrate better, meditate better and have better control over your thoughts.... you won't know unless you try..
See though, this doesn't manage to separate out whether it's true because it's a physical necessity, or whether it's true because you've heard it all your life and now you believe it with all your heart.
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ABC News: One Man, 40 Years, 21,292 Big Macs

Then there's this guy, who's eaten two Big Macs a day every day since 1972. And that's pretty much all he eats. Some tv news magazine did a story on him maybe 12 years ago, and he's still going at it. I remember this guy in particular because the news magazine had him go in for a full physical and there was absolutely nothing wrong with him, even though he'd been eating almost nothing but Big Mac's and Coke for 15 years. This sort of story can get people irritated because it's not "supposed to" be like this.
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ABC News: One Man, 40 Years, 21,292 Big Macs

Then there's this guy, who's eaten two Big Macs a day every day since 1972. And that's pretty much all he eats. Some tv news magazine did a story on him maybe 12 years ago, and he's still going at it. I remember this guy in particular because the news magazine had him go in for a full physical and there was absolutely nothing wrong with him, even though he'd been eating almost nothing but Big Mac's and Coke for 15 years. This sort of story can get people irritated because it's not "supposed to" be like this.

That's funny, and it does irritate people when someone breaks from the "mass mind" and has a mind of their own, historically they are shunned or killed. Since I'm not a 100% believer in subjective reality I think people have to not only change their own beliefs, but in some cases overcome the inertia of "mass belief " , kinda like the 4 minute mile thing.
When I was kid I lived on cocoa puffs, ice cream sandwiches, hamburgers and hot dogs. I eat much better than that now and am in much worse shape, Of course back then I never stopped moving from the time I woke up till when I went to sleep.

I have done some fasting in the past and can say that I did feel it was beneficial spiritually, partly I think it's the fact that digestion of food requires enormous amounts of blood, and your brain also needs lots of blood to do it's thing, this is part of the reason you get sleepy after a heavy meal. I also think intention plays a part in this too, like when someone fasts for a "breakthrough" or guidance or whatever, it's not the fasting that does the work, it's the intention.

There's another thread about eating meat in the spirituality forum where I mentioned that I think a lot of the veganism being pushed here is about guilt over taking life and if you do things that make you feel guilty, I believe it will hamper your ability to manifest. I think it's about being congruent, and when you go against your own values you are essentially at odds with yourself. So, yes, I think your diet can influence your capabilities, but not because it really does, it's because you make it so. I raise beef cattle and have most of my life so I have worked through all the issues about the food chain and I'm not one to get bogged down by the "anti meat" crowd.
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I don't understand the choice to have a subjective reality where people feel much better if all they eat is raw food.
That's because you have a belief about eating only raw food saying that it is restrictive, boring, very difficult, terrible and many more bad things. You could choose to change this belief and find going raw wonderful, the most natural and delicious diet ever and the best thing that could possibly happen to you. In such a belief system, feeling much better when you're raw is logical
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And Steve, who is a big proponent of subjective reality, has a diet which is becoming extremely restricted, and says he feels much better eating this way. I don't understand the choice to have a subjective reality where people feel much better if all they eat is raw food.
Well, I obviously don't know what's going on in Steve's head, but maybe he prefers eating healthy foods. Or maybe he doesn't 100% believe in subjective reality. Or maybe he does but he believes that changing even your subjective reality isn't as easy as 1-2-3. Who knows? Just eat healthy if you can, because if you eat unhealthy I guarantee there will be negative effects no matter what your belief.
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That's because you have a belief about eating only raw food saying that it is restrictive, boring, very difficult, terrible and many more bad things. You could choose to change this belief and find going raw wonderful, the most natural and delicious diet ever and the best thing that could possibly happen to you. In such a belief system, feeling much better when you're raw is logical
But why? If in subjective reality you could choose any diet and have it be healthy and wonderful and delicious, why choose one that really is restricted?

The only upside I can see to that is if your social circle mostly are raw foodists, or if those are the people you tend to like best. Otherwise, what's the added value, if we can choose health and feeling great with any diet we like?
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But why? If in subjective reality you could choose any diet and have it be healthy and wonderful and delicious, why choose one that really is restricted?
Again, you're believing that a "restricted" diet is not as good as one allowing you to eat whatever you want. For you not eating everything is a loss. This is a belief of yours that you could change.

For example for me, eating raw is not "restrictive". Raw food is for me truly living, alive, energetical, high quality food. What do I need more? So when you ask why on Earth I choose not to eat hamburgers, it's like me asking you why on Earth you don't want to eat toilet paper. Why do you choose such a restricted diet??
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Again, you're believing that a "restricted" diet is not as good as one allowing you to eat whatever you want. For you not eating everything is a loss. This is a belief of yours that you could change.

For example for me, eating raw is not "restrictive". Raw food is for me truly living, alive, energetical, high quality food. What do I need more? So when you ask why on Earth I choose not to eat hamburgers, it's like me asking you why on Earth you don't want to eat toilet paper. Why do you choose such a restricted diet??
Well, I don't know anyone who eats toilet paper, so that isn't much of a restriction for me.

But I don't eat meat, and although I can say to people that it's not restrictive for me personally, by definition it is restrictive. It shuts out options. In fact, it shuts out many options. I don't miss these options anymore and life as a non-meat-eater has become much easier over the years with more people cutting back on meat and more choices offered, but it still is by definition restrictive.

I figure you feel about the raw food lifestyle the way I feel about a vegetarian lifestyle -- it's become part of who I am, and I like it this way. I didn't quit eating meat because of health reasons, though -- it was because since I was in grade school I felt uncomfortable about eating animals. I've gone through that journey so long now that I don't even feel like I want to get involved in discussions like the one jeff3 mentioned in the other forum. Sometimes I think I'd be benefitting animals more if I started eating meat and only purchased from free-range organic farmers, but that's a whole 'nother thing I'm not ready to start considering seriously.

So, really, my question is -- with LoA and subjective reality and IM, a person could, in theory, decide that whatever diet they prefer is the healthiest one and do just fine with it, as long as they can change their belief system -- correct?
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But why? If in subjective reality you could choose any diet and have it be healthy and wonderful and delicious, why choose one that really is restricted?

The only upside I can see to that is if your social circle mostly are raw foodists, or if those are the people you tend to like best. Otherwise, what's the added value, if we can choose health and feeling great with any diet we like?
I think part of subjective reality is that one treats other beings as part of one's self - so then killing to eat is like chomping on your fingers. maybe...

but, hold on - if you look at LoA and think it doesn't matter what you eat, then go drink a bunch of sulfuric acid and think positive and see what that feels like. (someone will probably find a article that says someone was able to do this)

There are some beliefs that are laws in this 3d world, one of them is how food effects us. It is better to look at what optimizes your body to be clear AND think positive, than to eat poorly and try to think away the effects of bad habits.

Your body is a temple - be kind to it (even if it is a illusion and if we could believe something else it wouldn't matter that we eat junk).
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So, really, my question is -- with LoA and subjective reality and IM, a person could, in theory, decide that whatever diet they prefer is the healthiest one and do just fine with it, as long as they can change their belief system -- correct?
That part "as long as they can change their belief system" is the hurdle. I remember threads that asked things like if LoA could be used to grow an arm or fly. This topic reminds of those threads. Threads that ask what are the limits of LoA?

And they all kind of eventually say "as long as the belief can be changed" - then anything is possible.

I think some beliefs are in our DNA and part of our make up and we are stuck in this 3d world with some rules that are parameters to live in. If we didn't have these parameters nothing would be stable enough to be witness to life at all. Nothing would have become of the big bang or whatever started all this matter.

However, I don't totally buy it either. In the extreme case it's all belief and we probably are capable of slipping in and out of other dimensions and exist in some reality where it doesn't matter that we eat at all. But maybe that happens when we kick the bucket, in the mean time we incarnated and agreed to play with some rules to be able to experience living in matter.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:56 AM
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going back to the initial question, "is healthy eating necessary for LOA?", the short answer is NO. As we all create our own reality ALL THE TIME, manifesting is not conditional on healthy eating. Neither is deliberate manifesting.

but...

some historical figures that were exceptionally proficient in deliberate manifesting, to the point that they were seen as performing miracles, still insisted on fasting and eating simple, often vegan diet.

ever wondered why?

from my experience raw food and fasting is the most efficient way of rising one's vibration. For us, average Joes, its an extremely powerful tool, a shortcut almost to a quick alligment with the highest vibrations (maybe even the quickest way to allign with the higher self, divine or whatever you want to call it).

At the end, I guess, it's just a personal choice.
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Hi,

i suppose for me to summerize how I appoach this:

1. I beleive/focus upon foods that I feel are good for me in a myriad of different ways.

2. I also have found a 'moral' set of ideas that I am confortable with concerning eating meat or not.

3. I accept that my ideas create my own personal experience so accept that my ideas are real for me and will be different for others.

Whilst my beliefs are balanced within me i can then have more choice and gain more belefit from a flexible and enjoybale diet. If i became conflicted about my diet in any way shape or form I would alter my beleifs in accordance with what i feel is right for me,

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In short the answer is no but this depends on what your intentions are around eating.

If your intention is weight loss then your affirmations should reflect that e.g.
I only eat low fat, nutritious, low GI foods
If your intention is health your affirmation could be
I always make the right, healthy food choices

Either way, the right meat choice can fall into either of those categories. If your past education on food is that lean meat is an important part of a healthy diet then you will be honouring your affirmation and therefore attracting the result you want.

Follow your own truth.
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Here's a link that a guy relates his experience eating raw foods and the spirituality that "happened" because of that.

Author Matt Monarch on Transitioning to Raw Foods Cold Turkey

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The 100% raw food diet threw me into spirituality, I was never into this thing. I was president of my fraternity in college, and I'm talking like the number one partying fraternity. So here I am experiencing this, my mainstream of friends and my brother just think I'm absolutely nuts when I talk about this thing, the steps. So I went to the bookstore, I'm buying all these books on spirituality, I'm reading what different religions were saying, I started learning about meridians and energy fields, and I started learning about the chakra system, and so this really came to me.

I felt like this might have been the third eye chakra, and I thought I had something but (my friends and my family) just think that's all hocus pocus. Then later, I came across another book by Norman Walker, "The Natural Way to Vibrant Health," and he actually gave a scientific explanation of what the third eye actually is doing and what it is. He says that the pineal gland which is located right in that area is the organ that receives that cosmic energy and he said that if the thalamus didn't buffer it, it would completely disintegrate because of how powerful that energy is. But then the thalamus buffers all that energy. It goes to the hypothalamus and is distributed throughout our body to do whatever we want.
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I had the same question last year, and I wrote a post about it on my old blog. I'll re-post it here:

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In my last post I spoke about how my beliefs broke my diet. There are basically two parts to the challenge I’m encountering and today I figured out one part.

How Spirituality Affects Diet and Nutrition

Is a slimy cheeseburger dripping with fat bad for you? Does it harm your body? Or is it only bad for you if you believe it is bad for you?

Common sense tells us that eating crappy foods is bad for you. However, spiritual teachers such as Dr. How Len and Deepak Chopra as well as many others have made references to the fact that the foods themselves might only be “bad” for us if we believe they are bad for us. If you believe in a purely subjective reality model of the universe, this would obviously make total sense. Since in a subjective reality model we create everything we see, the food we eat doesn’t even exist, it is all just energy. It is only our beliefs and expectations that cause the effect. In this model it is only because we think chocolate cake makes us fat, that it makes us fat.

This line of thinking has been somewhat messing with my head lately and I know it’s at least partly to blame for my inability to stick to my 98% Diet and Fitness Plan . Today I found a logical solution.

Let’s assume for a moment that we do in fact live in a purely subjective reality model of the universe. Everything we see in front of us is purely created by us, by our subconscious beliefs. If so, does that mean then that we can eat whatever we want and as long as we believe that it is good for us we will be ok?

Yes and No. The challenge, as always is belief. In a subjective reality model yes you could eat whatever you wanted if you could somehow replace all of your subconscious beliefs and totally eliminate all reference to certain foods being bad for you. Practically speaking though, that is not easy to do.

For myself specifically, I realized that I have beliefs such as these already present in my conscious / subconscious mind:

* There are some foods that are good for me and some that are bad
* Some foods that are bad for me are …
* Some foods that are good for me are …
* When I eat foods that are bad for me, I am essentially slowly poisoning my body
* When I eat foods that are bad for me my body stores fat to protect itself from the toxins I ingest
* etc.

Because of this, when I do eat something that I know intellectually to be unhealthy such as a sloppy cheeseburger dripping with fat I will suffer, my body will suffer and a simple “Oh cmon, it can’t be that bad for me, it’s only bad for me if I believe it’s bad and I don’t really believe it’s bad” is NOT going to work (not for me). Yes, hypothetically speaking to a purely enlightened being food does nothing, but such a being can also drive nails through it’s hands and still be ok.

So, I’ve concluded my thinking on this with this simple experiment you can also do for yourself at home:

Step 1) Ask yourself - “Am I far enough with my spiritual studies that I can consider myself fully enlightened where I can do cool stuff like walking through walls and raising myself from the dead?”

Step 2)

If you answered YES, it is probably ok to eat cheeseburgers all day long. If you die, just raise yourself and keep eating.

If you answered NO, then you are probably not enlightened enough yet to be able to get away with eating whatever you want, therefore refer to step 3.

Step 3) If you want to be healthy and save yourself from years of pain going through countless debilitating degenerative diseases, eat healthy and continue your spiritual studies until you can answer step 1 with a YES.
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My question really is more about extremes. If people truly believe in subjective reality and IM, that we manifest our own reality, that thoughts create reality -- then why would they go to extremes in diet like water fasting, restricted diets where only raw food is allowed, and so on? What would be the benefit of that, if we could make a declaration about food that fits within what more people would call reasonable guidelines?

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If we are creating our own reality, why are some of us, for instance, creating a reality where a raw food diet is the healthiest one, when it's so utterly restrictive?

Jennihul -- what about the blood-type diet? Why, if we can create any reality we desire?
Here's my take on it.

First of all, there are two approaches to a goal: acting within the belief system and acting to change the belief system.

There are infinite permutations of either technique, and you can use both!

If Jack is trying an ultra restrictive vegan raw foods diet, it may be that Jack changed his belief about the vrf diet: he may believe that it will be an awesome experience. He may believe that he will actually enjoy foods more.

He might have an intuition that the woman he wants to marry (whom he hasn't yet met) will be very attracted to him because he does this restrictive diet.

Point being: you can change any of these three: your value beliefs, your cause-effect beliefs, and your actions. Or you can change all three!

The more you change the weirder it may look to those on the outside of your belief.
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