Freeing Limiting Beliefs--how?

[oberlee]

My top manifestation projects are about my career, but I realized today that for some reason I have a deep-seated belief that I'm not good enough and don't deserve to have a successful career or get hired by the theatres I want to work for. Why? I don't know. But as much as I try to manifest having this or that career, or getting hired by this or that theatre, the closest I get to believing it is really just having a momentary episode.

I see other people having successes I'm not, and I can sense they have very different beliefs about their careers. This has always been the hardest thing to manifest in my life. Boyfriends/love--easy. Money--not easy, but doable. Work on film, even--doable. But getting noticed, taken seriously, and hired by some great theatres in fulfilling roles is very, very hard.

Does anyone have good advice on how to free limiting beliefs? I feel like when I "try" I'm only pretending.

Thanks!!!

[LoveFreedom]

Hi Oberlee,
yes, limiting beliefs are a pain and endemic. You are not on your own. What is helping me right now is NLP - I have witnessed people getting rid of their limiting beliefs or negative emotions in a matter of seconds. It convinced me that we don't need a 'lifetime therapy' to overcome them.

another helpful method is a basic techniques offered by Ester Hicks (Abraham) wherein you write down What you want- Why you want it and Why you belief you will get it. It will feel a bit like 'pretending' to strat with but if you persist in directing your thoughts towards what you have written you will see miracles very quickly. And you can add to your lists or do a new one every so often to 'update' your new beliefs.

if you keep a diary you will be able to notice how quickly your thinking will change.

There are many other techniques you can use, maybe look up the processes in 'sk and it is given' or other techniques discussed here in this forum. My advice is to choose one or two and stick tot hem - trying to do too much at the same time is often not that beneficial as you may find yourself being overwelmed.

Good luck.
And let us know when you get to be recognized and famous

[Anagogy]

I say...keep pretending. The more you imagine what it would be like to be taken seriously, the more you come into alignment with that reality. Just pretend, play, have fun with it in your mind. Don't stress. Soon, via the law of attraction, a similar thought will join the previous.. Then, another will. Then, more will come. If you stay focussed, the attraction process will increase exponentially the more attention you give it.

And yes, "Ask and it is Given" is a great resource.

[cylon]

So easy when we were kids. I don't know who wrote the poem, but it's a famous one and it ends something like "I put away childish things" and it's a sad poem about being a grown-up.

When we were younger we had NO PROBLEM keeping our thoughts on what we wanted. Then you get influenced by society and your thoughts start getting practical, then you turn into a sheep, a zombie, a part of the collective.

[RT Wolf]

I spent a bunch of time thinking about somethign that may be similar. Maybe you really, really do not feel like you are a good whatever-you-are. There's two ways around this: 1. convince yourself you're a good actor and/or 2. Work on becoming a better whatever you do.

I spent a bunch of time feeling like I was pretending, too and some of Steve's early writing really help me get it straight that, you know what, it's not that my feelings are wrong, they are actually an accurate indicator of my abilities and my abilities really do need to be improved, like this one:

If deep down you have doubts as to whether what you're providing is of real value, you'll probably sabotage yourself in your marketing efforts. I see this all the time among small business owners -- they often don't believe enough in their products to aggressively market them. So they hold back and fill their days with non-marketing activities instead. Doing too much marketing makes them feel uncomfortable.

I'm not advocating trying to fool yourself into believing in your product/service when you don't. I'm suggesting you consult your conscience to see what you already believe. If you run your own business and don't market it very well (a common situation), is it possible you don't really believe in the benefits you provide? Or if you feel you're ready for a better job but don't go out and apply for one, could it be that you secretly feel the potential employer would be better off hiring someone else?

Marketing From Your Conscience by Steve Pavlina

A lot of what i thought were "limiting beliefs" were actually values. I have trouble doing something that would be profitable for me but people could get it from another source because I really do feel that they would be better off just getting it for free. I want to provide real value and not just try to find some shortcut to getting people to give me money.

Sorry, guess this thing drifted a bit into an autobiography. I hope there is osmeting there for you, anyhoo.

[sehall]

Originally Posted by LoveFreedom

Hi Oberlee,
yes, limiting beliefs are a pain and endemic. You are not on your own. What is helping me right now is NLP - I have witnessed people getting rid of their limiting beliefs or negative emotions in a matter of seconds. It convinced me that we don't need a 'lifetime therapy' to overcome them.

another helpful method is a basic techniques offered by Ester Hicks (Abraham) wherein you write down What you want- Why you want it and Why you belief you will get it. It will feel a bit like 'pretending' to strat with but if you persist in directing your thoughts towards what you have written you will see miracles very quickly. And you can add to your lists or do a new one every so often to 'update' your new beliefs.

if you keep a diary you will be able to notice how quickly your thinking will change.

There are many other techniques you can use, maybe look up the processes in 'sk and it is given' or other techniques discussed here in this forum. My advice is to choose one or two and stick tot hem - trying to do too much at the same time is often not that beneficial as you may find yourself being overwelmed.

Good luck.
And let us know when you get to be recognized and famous

[sehall]

It's probably a stupid question, but I'm new to all this. I want to find my hidden limiting beliefs.

[LoveFreedom]

hi sehall,
NLP stands for Neuro Linguistic Programming. You can google it to find more.

[cylon]

Neuro-Linguistic-Programming.

It's intense. A whole series of exercises and things you do to mess with your brain. I researched it, but could never find any books that were not for people who were already psychologists.

I THINK that one book that started a lot of this was "Psycho-Cybernetics", and that is a book normal people can understand, and has practical exercises.

[wellbeing]

Thanks, RT, for your post. I hope the OP found it as helpful as I did.

[moonrambler]

RT, that's awesome stuff, thanks for posting. More food for thought today!

I bet this is a huge problem for loads of people when it comes to making a lot of money doing something fun. How does one get past the idea that it's ridiculous to get paid millions of dollars for acting in movies or playing professional basketball?

[joesugar]

Originally Posted by cylon

Neuro-Linguistic-Programming.

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I THINK that one book that started a lot of this was "Psycho-Cybernetics", and that is a book normal people can understand, and has practical exercises.

This is a great book. I was introduced to it as part of a high school class and constantly go back to reread it. If you do read it, I think you will be surprised at the similarities between it, intention/manifestation, and LOA.

I have heard it recommended that you should be sure to get the original text. Apparently it was updated a few years ago and some reviewers believe it suffered as a result. I don't know since I've only read copies of the original.

[joesugar]

You all are mentioning limiting beliefs but I would like to suggest that just as important are beliefs we don't realize we are missing.

Let me give you an example. I was recently analyzing my beliefs toward wealth from two different angles. The first was the idea from IM/LOA that the important thing is to believe that the event you want has already happened and the universe will make it true. The second was the idea from PsychCybernetics that the important thing is to believe that a solution or path to the event you want exists. The universe will reveal it to you and arrange circumstances to help you bring it about.

In both cases the universe is key to bringing about what you want but I realized that while I have no problem with wealth attained by working (second example), I had a real problem with wealth attained by what seems like luck (first example). I finally realized that what I was missing was the possibility of wealth obtained by gift after having asked for it, probably because as a result of my upbringing it would never occur to me to ask another person for money without having something tangible to offer in return.

I suppose you could look at that as a limiting believe, but I tend to equate limiting beliefs with negative beliefs. In my mind, this wasn't limiting as much as it just wouldn't occur to me.

I guess my point is, don't only look at the beliefs you have. Look at your issue from all angles. The places where something doesn't feel right, where you find paradoxes or logical inconsistencies, those are the areas where you should probably start your examination and you might be surprised at what you find.

[oberlee]

Thanks, everyone. And I'm glad that someone asked what NLP stood for, because...um...I didn't know either.

LoveFreedom--yes, I just recently bought and have been studying Ask And It Is Given, so thank you. I'll look into NLP, too, when I'm not crazy busy.

RT Wolf--Thanks, I think you're on to something. It's a weird thing, because I think with arts and talents that we all have, we all believe a PORTION of what we do. Like, there are certain circumstances when I feel very comfortable in my abilities, others, not so much. A lot of it is the point of where you are in the process. But, it's a circle because the more confident I am, the better I am, and this isn't true in the same way for everything, but you get what I mean. I guess I feel my instincts trapped--at certain times, not all--by confidence. Catch 22. But thank you for bringing that up, because you're absolutely, absolutely right.

Anagogy--I'm pluggin' along, like you say.

Thanks, everyone. I love this forum. So many people connecting and offering so much help to random people who we'd NEVER know otherwise. Makes me so hopeful and happy.

Oh, and LoveFreedom--while my goal isn't fame, no WAY would I reveal my identity. You kiddin me? Anonymity rocks. 'Specially on forums. And what if someone found who I was on WOW? It'd be over. Gank central.

[Acting Like Godot]

Look into self-hypnosis too.

[sehall]

Originally Posted by joesugar

This is a great book. I was introduced to it as part of a high school class and constantly go back to reread it. If you do read it, I think you will be surprised at the similarities between it, intention/manifestation, and LOA.

I have heard it recommended that you should be sure to get the original text. Apparently it was updated a few years ago and some reviewers believe it suffered as a result. I don't know since I've only read copies of the original.

I just looked in Amazon and found many books with the title Psycho Cybernetics. Which year did they change? Do I get the book dated 1973?
Also there are many books titled "science of getting rich" Which one? Same author, same title, different looks.

HELP

[dave marshall]

Hi,

NLP has great tools to help you find limiting beleifs.

One of the best ways I find is something called parts integration.

Essentially this is a process/mental excercise where you explore the part of yourself with a limiting belief. if I were you I would google 'parts intergration NLP' and see what you get.

dave

[LoveFreedom]

Another good method from NLP (for getting rid of limiting beliefs) is through submodalities.

This also can be googled but I would recommend seeing a NLP practitoner for a couple of hours rather than trying to learn NLP yourself, especially if you are only interested in using it for this one purpose. It will be less costly and the results are unbelievable. Also, it is difficult to do these techniques on yourself, it's better to have someone else doing them with you.

NLP is not a therapy in a sense that it doesn't dwell on the past - just works with existing patterns in now. And it can change these patterns in a matter of minutes without getting into painful (and VERY speculative) evoking old memories and hurts...

[LoveFreedom]

yes, oberlee, I am with you - anonymity rocks! I was just being encouraging

There's two ways around this: 1. convince yourself you're a good actor and/or 2. Work on becoming a better whatever you do.

RT Wold, while I understand your point, I think there is a danger in presenting these two things as alternatives. In most cases getting better comes with practice and, especially with drama, the practice is easiest to get when you... well.. practice. And if the limiting beliefs keep us away from getting any opportunities to practice, they may need to be dealt with first.

and since we often question existence of objective anything in this forum, it may also be good to question the objectivity of talent. Without getting muddles in some long argument let me give you an example. I love art but I find many paintings painfully boring (please not another landscape or a nude!!!). Does it mean people who paint them have no talent, no recognition and no followers?? Hardly!

I don't know much about drama but I am sure it is similar, there is many audiences and many roles. It also seems to me that oberlee is passionate about the acting! isn't passion a soul-speak for " you are on the right path" (whatever that means, lol)

Is it possible that once oberlee's beliefs about her talent and worthiness allign with her dreams, her body, voice, body language and expresion will change to allow her dreams to happen??? Or that they will change to convince others that she is, in fact, very talented?

[oberlee]

Originally Posted by LoveFreedom

RT Wold, while I understand your point, I think there is a danger in presenting these two things as alternatives. In most cases getting better comes with practice and, especially with drama, the practice is easiest to get when you... well.. practice. And if the limiting beliefs keep us away from getting any opportunities to practice, they may need to be dealt with first.

and since we often question existence of objective anything in this forum, it may also be good to question the objectivity of talent. Without getting muddles in some long argument let me give you an example. I love art but I find many paintings painfully boring (please not another landscape or a nude!!!). Does it mean people who paint them have no talent, no recognition and no followers?? Hardly!

I don't know much about drama but I am sure it is similar, there is many audiences and many roles. It also seems to me that oberlee is passionate about the acting! isn't passion a soul-speak for " you are on the right path" (whatever that means, lol)

Is it possible that once oberlee's beliefs about her talent and worthiness allign with her dreams, her body, voice, body language and expresion will change to allow her dreams to happen??? Or that they will change to convince others that she is, in fact, very talented?

Thanks, LoveFreedom. I agree with you full on, but I have to say, RT was ALSO spot-on with this one, at least as far as what I feel. Sometimes you can be passionate and still have limiting beliefs. And for me, I've made a habit out of that tension. It doesn't mean it happens every time, though. I get work, I work professionally and I have the luxury of turning down roles, but I want to make the step up to the bigger leagues in my area, (which has a lot of great theatre, btw).

The thing is, having limiting beliefs is not really prevalent once I've gotten cast and am inside the process. The challenge is the EARLY stages, and having limiting beliefs in acting very much hinders talent--or, the ability to show it, just as it hinders LOA, of course. There is skill involved, like any other art, but acting is tricky because objectivity is already VERY skewed (watch TV--most of those people are horrible actors and make millions). The challenge is going in front of someone I don't know and communicating what I can do. Sometimes. Sometimes it's easy; sometimes it's hard. Depends on who.

The more I think about it, the harder it is to see where you're differing from RT... I guess you took his comments as meaning that I should work on my craft. This is true; this is true of any craft, any time. You never stop getting better, I hope. And I guess you were saying that it isn't about getting better, it's about believing you're better. This is also true. And I completely agree with the line about how everything would fall in line with that, body, voice, skill, etc.

I don't think RT was saying I shouldn't deal with that, I think he (?) was saying that that discord perhaps marks an area that I do need to deal with, technically. Or, as you say, emotionally. Does it really matter, though? Isn't it the same? Acting is a skill, but it's also more than that. Now, Ian McKellan has mad skills. He also has mad talent. Some actors have a lot of talent and not many skills. It's like the pianist who's accomplished but not great. Technical but not interpretive. Anyway, nothing can be fully shown without full commitment to the moment in acting. Talented people have that; skilled do not always. Venn diagram, anyone???

Ach. I'm all confused, though. But I must say, I have never talked so openly about this and it's interesting to notice I feel very insecure talking about it (though it helps, because I don't "know" any of you), and bad like I'm taking up your time. But that's stupid, because I answer people's posts all the time, and no one answers without wanting to.

So, I guess what I'm saying is you guys (rhetorical, of course, girls too) ROCK. Much love to all.

[joesugar]

Originally Posted by sehall

I just looked in Amazon and found many books with the title Psycho Cybernetics. Which year did they change? Do I get the book dated 1973?
Also there are many books titled "science of getting rich" Which one? Same author, same title, different looks.

HELP

In regard to PsychoCybernetics, look for one written by Maxwell Maltz, not the Maxwell Maltz Foundation. Update was apparently done around 1999.

[Joely]

Hi Oberlee,

As was mentioned on Aspiring's thread, one of the quickest and easiest ways to use NLP - especially submodalities - is to use one of Paul McKenna's books and CDs. I'm sure you'll be able to find one of them that's appropriate for you. I haven't been able to find anything quite as effective that works as quickly.

Joely