My New LOA Discovery

[Acting Like Godot]

So I recently discovered that LOA is actually magick.

Or if you prefer, that "LOA" and "magick" are two different labels to describe the same thing.

I guess I shouldn't be that surprised. What is Abraham, after all. And Jerry Hicks was messing around with Oujia boards and talking to funny beings via the board, long before Esther Hicks first channelled Abraham.

I know that this is not the first time that the magick-LOA relationship has been discussed on this forum (and I've actually participated in those discussions before). But I didn't know that much about magickal practices and techniques then.

Now I (intellectually) know more. Still haven't actually tried that much magickal stuff, but I will, and I think a whole new dimension has just opened up for me, in my use of LOA.

For example, stuff like visualising with the use of different chakra colours for different types of intentions; pressing my intention onto objects to make magickal objects; creating and using rituals to formalise intention; invoking non-physical entities; manifesting intentions by composing them into chants, spells; working with the elements Earth, Wind, Fire and Water etc.

It's a little scary for me, but then, great big discoveries usually are, and I'm game for it.

Cool, yah.

[Angela]

You're a witch!!!

Be careful about the Witch's Creed -- that part about any negativity coming back to you tenfold. You just have to be so much more careful when you're a witch!

Keep us posted on what you conjure up, please.

[fascinoma]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

So I recently discovered that LOA is actually magick.

Or if you prefer, that "LOA" and "magick" are two different labels to describe the same thing.

I guess I shouldn't be that surprised. What is Abraham, after all. And Jerry Hicks was messing around with Oujia boards and talking to funny beings via the board, long before Esther Hicks first channelled Abraham.

Same story (well, similar) as to how Enochian magick got discovered.

Yea. LoA IMHO is the magick meme hitting the mainstream. Ten years ago I couldn't talk about magick and witchcraft with the average middle class person, now I can if I call it LoA.

Edited to add:
LoA is socially acceptable, basically, because rich white people do it.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by fascinoma

LoA is socially acceptable, basically, because rich white people do it.

Ha! Very amusing, fascinoma! In a sad sort of way.

[Jennihul]

Originally Posted by fascinoma

Same story (well, similar) as to how Enochian magick got discovered.

Yea. LoA IMHO is the magick meme hitting the mainstream. Ten years ago I couldn't talk about magick and witchcraft with the average middle class person, now I can if I call it LoA.

Edited to add:
LoA is socially acceptable, basically, because rich white people do it.

That's funny.

Everyone does LOA, some don't know it and some don't know it has a name. But it's not like learning about it throws a switch in "the universe." It's always on, all the time, for everyone.

Learning about LOA simply allows you to use it to your advantage. No more, no less.

There is no spoon and everyone is God.

Jennifer

[Tabs]

Originally Posted by Jennihul

That's funny.


There is no spoon and everyone is God.

Jennifer

Good one Jen

[Acting Like Godot]

So I wanna share with you the strange little synchronicities that led me to the discovery of magick.

About a month ago, there was that extremely interesting thread on this forum entitled "Garbage - All of It" where among other things, I had a prolonged discussion with a skeptical woman who called herself Mrs Cogan.

Among other things, we discussed whether LOA could be tested, and if so, how to test it. I made the point that one way to test the LOA was to use bizarre, unusual intentions so that if they actually came true, their strangeness would tend to suggest that LOA caused it, rather than random chance / coincidence.

As you may recall, I immediately tried this myself by attempting to manifest money out of nowhere. That very day, I effectively received $12,000 out of the blue. (I also discussed this in that thread).

Anyway, since then, I've been trying to think of ways to further test the LOA with bizarre, unusual intentions. However, I was quite short of ideas of what bizarre, unusual intentions to try.

So two weekends ago, I was pondering this very matter at home. Then my kids wanted to watch a movie at home. I let them choose a DVD and they dug up one that we hadn't watched for a long time. It was a Harry Potter movie (the very first one - The Sorceror's Stone).

As the movie was playing, I was still trying to think up of bizarre, unusual intentions to try to manifest. Suddenly, as my eyes looked at the TV screen, this silly thought crossed my mind that for a bizarre, unusual intention, I could try to manifest myself to be like Harry Potter, an amateur learning real magic for the very first time.

It was an utterly stupid thought, of course. It was just a silly bit of nonsense going on in my head. But right there and then, as I watched the movie with my kids, I started imagining what it would be like, if I could be learning magic like Harry Potter. I probably messed around with that dumb bit of daydreaming for a few minutes. Then I forgot all about it.

A couple of days later, my wife sent me on an errand. On the way, I passed a bookstore. It's a smallish, uninteresting bookstore, the range of books was very small, but for some reason I just went in to browse. I was in the "Alternative Health" section looking at books on nutrition and diet, when I suddenly noticed one book entitled "The Wizard's Apprentice".

There was only one copy. It was the only book that I could see anywhere in the bookstore that was related to magick / occult stuff. I bought it out of curiosity.

Went home and flipped through it. It was very diverse - it talked about vampires, shamans, ghosts, channelling, levitation, witches, the astral plane etc etc. And suddenly I found one section which described a certain magic-making process, which was almost exactly how I usually do my IM.

Boy, that was a real surprise to me.

I was so fascinated that next day, I headed out to town, to two very big bookstores, to look for books about magick. Browsed many of them, and bought a few of them.

One more odd synchronicity. One of the books I had browsed, (but had not bought) was about how to use Tarot cards not just for divination, but for making different kinds of magic. I didn't have time to read this book thoroughly, but when I went home, I remembered that I have this old deck of Tarot cards from long ago, and I dug it up.

I shuffled the cards and I mentally asked, "What's really happening? Am I really making magic or what?". And then I pulled one card, just ONE card from the entire deck of 78. And the card turned out to the "Magician". Wow, can any answer ever be more direct and obvious than that.

Anyway, since then, I've been reading my new magick books and absorbing things fast. I found it surprisingly easy to pick up a lot of magickal understanding very fast - because essentially the fundamental principles seem to be very LOA-based. The terminology is different, but the technology is the same. Well, actually the technology is similar, but my impression is that magickal technology is actually more advanced than the LOA technology described in, say, "Ask, and It is Given" or "Think and Grow Rich" or "The Master Key System".

As a matter of fact, there's this magickal book I'm reading - its entitled "Instant Magick" - and you know what, I would recommend as one of the best LOA books I've ever read, even though the phrase "Law of Attraction" is not found even once in it. Because it describes the IM process so elegantly and clearly.

[polluxlm]

Thanks for the tip.

[BringTheDarkness]

I made the connection between LOA/Majick when I first heard about LOA proper on this site.

It is an interesting subject to be sure.

Knowing some practicing magi I know that at the higher levels they usually, but not always, just dispense with the "ritual" and just do visualization etc like is talked about on this site.

BTD

[cylon]

ALG the congregation has decided they would prefer if you don't speak at the youth group meetings anymore.

When it gets to non-physical entities, It gives me the creeps. It took me years to doubt that there was a talking snake that tempted the first humans, now if that is possible then what else is possible?

[boat]

Hey, that book (Instant Magick) sounds really interesting. Thanks for the info, I'm ordering it off amazon now.

And yeah, I noticed the similarities too. It seems traditionally, Magick is more symbolic and uses physical materials to help build our faith and belief, while LoA is more mental..? Not sure. But it'll be interesting to see how you progress with this new book.

[fascinoma]

Originally Posted by boat

Hey, that book (Instant Magick) sounds really interesting. Thanks for the info, I'm ordering it off amazon now.

And yeah, I noticed the similarities too. It seems traditionally, Magick is more symbolic and uses physical materials to help build our faith and belief, while LoA is more mental..? Not sure. But it'll be interesting to see how you progress with this new book.

Another thing, magick generally uses physical energy as well, energy which is called chi/qi in Chinese martial arts and medicine, known by other names as well (ki, prana, mana, kala) and does ritual to raise that energy, then directs the energy toward the manifestation.

I notice that LoA people don't tend to talk about that, but one or two people somewhere have mentioned jogging/running while manifesting. They probably figured out intuitively that you can use physical energy to manifest.

Practicing Chi Kung/Qi Gong is a good way to learn to work with this energy.

[Jennihul]

Originally Posted by cylon

ALG the congregation has decided they would prefer if you don't speak at the youth group meetings anymore.

When it gets to non-physical entities, It gives me the creeps. It took me years to doubt that there was a talking snake that tempted the first humans, now if that is possible then what else is possible?

Study Kabbalah and the Zohar...there wasn't really a snake there.... Those dudes know more about the old testament than God himself.

Jennifer

[Jennihul]

I'm not sure why it's hard to believe that the same force/entity/spirit/energy is working no matter what costume we put on it.

I studied Feng Shui for awhile before I realized for the self-proclaimed "masters" it's more about selling cures from their pricey websites. But my "aha" moment came when one non-scheister practioner that is local here said in his book that it all comes down to the intention you place with your cures and your placements.

Which makes sense to me. The objects used for cures in Asia have absolute cultural meaning for them. Where as if I hang a flute on an inauspicious beam in my American house, it's meaningless to me. Seems irrelevant and silly. So Feng Shui, as an example, doesn't transfer well to Americans. Which is why we tend to prefer intuitive forms of Feng Shui in this country.

Clearing the clutter makes sense. Not overstuffing your furniture into a small room makes sense. Keeping the flow free makes sense. Harmonious colors. Pleasant air movement. Sounds. Light. To Americans, all that makes sense. A frog with three legs? Not so much. (But I have one... I rub his little brass head all the time...)

Jennifer

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by fascinoma

I notice that LoA people don't tend to talk about that, but one or two people somewhere have mentioned jogging/running while manifesting. They probably figured out intuitively that you can use physical energy to manifest.

Hey I do that sometimes (manifesting while jogging). But not for the reason you mentioned. Instead:

1. Need to be alone by myself to manifest effectively. My house can be noisy, with two little kids running around and climbing on Daddy, their favourite plaything.

2. I use the rhythm of running as my equivalent of a shamanic drum (kinda). Shamans use drumming to access their altered states of consciousness - they focus on the drumming sound the way others watch their breath etc in meditation.