LoA and beauty?

[muah]

What if I manifest to be good looking. Have you ever thought of that?

[Vasilisa]

I think it's quite possible. Right clothes, right hairstyle and right attitude can do miracles.

[muah]

That's not what I have in mind.

[Angela]

Of course you can manifest beauty and attractiveness. That's one of the easiest things to manifest.

[NotesMaeve]

Being beautiful is easy. Doesn't seem hard for Miss Angela, does it?

[Angela]

Oh, you sweet thing, you.

It's easy to manifest beauty and attractiveness, because it's already there. The thing to manifest is being able to see it -- especially in yourself, where veils lie between our fabulousness and our ability to see. Once you see it in yourself, you see it everywhere. And vice-versa!

[muah]

I'm talking about physical attractiveness, the thing you can see in the mirror...

[Angela]

Originally Posted by muah

I'm talking about physical attractiveness, the thing you can see in the mirror...

That's exactly what I'm talking about, too.

[muah]

Originally Posted by Angela

That's exactly what I'm talking about, too.

And what about you then. Did you have any experience with that?! Did you transform yourself somehow?

[Angela]

Yes. Early last year. It was not about transforming my body and face; it was a transformation of my experience of my body and face. I had looked at photos of my younger self, when I suffered so much about not being pretty enough, and saw that I was a totally hot babe-- really gorgeous, and I wish that I could show Younger Angela the beauty I was seeing in her.

Then -- I had the very strong sense of my Older Angela travelling back in time to me, now, Current Angela, and showing me exactly the same thing -- how really gorgeous I was (am), what a totally hot babe I am (was), and encouraging me not to waste any time thinking otherwise.

That morning, I looked in the mirror and was floored by my own beauty - drop dead gorgeousness would be a better description. My boyfriend, Danger Man, saw me looking in the mirror and asked what I had been doing that I looked so awesome. (He is a model, so he's got a pretty good sensitivity to looks.) It was a huge, major, transformation in how I saw myself, and the funny thing was, all of a sudden Danger Man looked more gorgeous to me, too. And when I went outside, all I saw was beautiful people, everywhere I went.

That was truly an amazing day. My life has not been the same since.

[Joely]

It's all in the way you see yourself. Wander around thinking you're not attractive, and you just give off those vibes to other people. See your own beauty, and it shines out to others.

[muah]

Wow, it sounds amazing but.. You say your boyfriend is a model and thought that you're not pretty? I know some really beautiful women have big issues about their looks. Is it possible that you were good looking girl with this kind of problem?

[Angela]

No, he always thought I was pretty. But once I could connect with my own beauty, he was struck by, I think, something much more gorgeous -- that is, me owning my beauty, and my gratitude towards my own physicality. Our relationship really went up a big notch once I let go of insecurity about my looks.

And... I wouldn't say I'm more beautiful than any other woman. I'm certainly not a model (although he uses me sometimes in his projects, so wait, I guess I am a model! ).

[muah]

That's great but my problem is that people don't perceive me as beautiful. They don't call me beautiful. Women don't start conversation with me and sometimes are really bitchy when I start it. And I see how they act when some pretty guy is talking to them.

[Lola]

Originally Posted by Angela

I had looked at photos of my younger self, when I suffered so much about not being pretty enough, and saw that I was a totally hot babe-- really gorgeous, and I wish that I could show Younger Angela the beauty I was seeing in her.

I had a very similar experience. My mom is a teeny little thing. Five foot nothin' and about 100 lbs soaking wet. I outgrew her in fifth grade. I'm 5'7" and built more like my dad's side of the family.

From junior high on, mom was constantly making comments about my size, putting me on diets, making *subtle* little hints about how I could look better, *helping me* understand what I could and could not wear, encouraging me to have pretty girls for friends... And I totally owned it. I struggled with roller-coaster dieting for years. Had an internalized image of myself as an unattractive fat girl regardless of my actual weight.

Last year I was looking through some old photo albums and discovered pics of a young girl who was not fat at all. She was certainly taller and built bigger than her teensy mom but beautifully proportioned and gorgeous! That was me! It was a true lightbulb moment to see myself as I really was.

Totally changed my outlook and the programming I'd been buying into for years.

[polluxlm]

Originally Posted by muah

That's great but my problem is that people don't perceive me as beautiful. They don't call me beautiful. Women don't start conversation with me and sometimes are really bitchy when I start it. And I see how they act when some pretty guy is talking to them.

Think about all the 'ugly' guys who get to go out with the most beautiful women. What goes on there?

Beauty comes from within. I don't know how to explain it, but it does. Of course, secondary causes have a say when facing people in a secondary line of thought, but your first cause, your inner intention and belief will always triumph in the end. If it doesn't, well, she wasn't worth it anyways.

Let me tell you this; I have pretty good looks, but I always had trouble with the women in my earlier years. How come? I was sending negative vibrations, and those howered way above my looks.

Being what is conventionally known as pretty is not the cause for them having success in life, but being pretty usually makes it easier to accept the pattern of "I deserve this, I can get this, I'm worth something etc." It just comes more natural since they've been recieving positive comments all their life. These people use the law by default, we have to learn it.

[Joely]

There was an observation made by Truman Capote of Marilyn Monroe, after leaving the funeral of a mutual friend. They walked side by side down the street, a main street in New York, and nobody who passed noticed they were walking past Marilyn Monroe. Suddenly, she stopped and straightened her shoulders, and started to walk confidently and everybody stopped and noticed her, realising they were looking at this famous movie star.

People who are truly beautiful give off an aura, and it's not necessarily so that they're physically beautiful according to a given set of definitions. It's a deep-down sense of self-worth. At the moment, you're walking around with this idea in your head that other people don't find you beautiful. It's probably there in your body language, and people pick up on that and respond without even knowing they're doing it. The only way to change that behaviour is to work on yourself, and what you believe to be true about yourself.

A bit like Angela's experience, I once read a book about dating people you think might be out of your league. It included "types" of people you might aim for, and as I read the final type, called "Type X", I suddenly found myself reading a description of me. There in print was this suggestion that guys might actually go for a woman like me. It really did shake me up, because I had a whole mental list of why men wouldn't like me, and a lot of it was to do with being a writer and an artist. I've realised, since then, that I get noticed when I walk a particular way, when I think or feel a particular way. It has nothing to do with my beauty. I've been chatted up on the way to the gym wearing jogging gear and no makeup. I never would've believed that was possible.

Have a look at yourself and what you really think about yourself. Because unless you go in for surgery, you can't really change yourself physically just using the LOA. And even if you have surgery, that won't fundamentally alter how you see yourself.

[Angela]

Yeah, I'm thinking of that woman Jocelyn Wildenstein who was actually quite pretty before she went on her plastic surgery quest to look like a cat. Her husband had apparently rejected her and cheated on her (before the plastic surgery) and she felt that if she looked better, she could win him back. But of course he was repulsed by a) this attitude and b) the results (!).

Her lack of ability to see her own beauty led her to marry a cad, spend a ton of money, time and pain on changing her appearance, and transform herself into something really hard to look at. Really hard -- tragic, even.

[muah]

I'm actually aware of the pick-up community if you ever heard and I know alot about social dynamics and attracting women... I know that an average looking (even an ugly) guy can get a hot babe and that the looks almost don't matter, but I know what advantage it gives you in life. Not even money can give you that kind of advantage.

[Angela]

You know, looks such as the ones on Dustin Hoffman, Adrian Brody, Benecio del Toro, Mick Jagger, etc., could be considered ugly by some. And I think none of those fellows is suffering from a lack of female attention. It's not just their celebrity, either -- they just own their beauty.

[muah]

Benecio del Toro is actually a good looking and I know movie stars can get attraction from hot women. That's not the point.

I know I'm sending bad vibes everywhere but I wrote this thread because I'm curious about the looks and the law of attraction, not attracting women



Dustin Hoffman?! I think you've got me there

[Angela]

Originally Posted by muah

Benecio del Toro is actually a good looking and I know movie stars can get attraction from hot women. That's not the point.

As I mentioned, it's not (entirely) their celebrity that makes them attractive. It's their ownership of their beauty. So what is the point, then? That you don't want to accept that being good-looking is anything other than some sort of external, skin-deep thing? Like, some people are born good-looking and others aren't, and you want to switch from one camp to the other?

You asked if you can manifest being good-looking, and my answer is yes. So what?

[muah]

Originally Posted by Angela

You asked if you can manifest being good-looking, and my answer is yes. So what?

Do you think it'll help?

[Angela]

Originally Posted by muah

Do you think it'll help?

Well, what is it that you really want? Have you distinguished specifically what would have you feeling satisfied and fulfilled? Maybe it's meeting the right woman, or maybe it's being more effective in society, or maybe it's just feeling strong or worthwhile. What do you think you would have, deep down, if you were to manifest physical attractiveness for yourself?

[jeff3]

Generally speaking, beauty is entirely subjective, what is beautiful in one culture is ugly in others. The only real study I've read regarding what people find pleasing is about "faces" and the "golden ratio", some peoples faces are more appealing to the general population than others based upon certain aspects of key parts of the face. These findings did hold true across different cultural boundaries but all the other stuff like weight and body habitus, hair color/style and skin tone are pretty much cultural and learned. At one time moderately plump, lilly white skinned women were the cat's meow because only wealthy women who sat in the house all day could look like that, now the going thing is thin and burnt.

Having said all that, I can tell you from experience that you project a persona that has little to do with how you actually look. What's your real goal here? Do you want to look how everyone else thinks good looking people should look? Do you have some idea what you think beautiful is ? Do you want other people to think you are good looking, what would that give you , more acceptance , more dates, more confidence? clarify your objective

[muah]

Originally Posted by jeff3

Generally speaking, beauty is entirely subjective, what is beautiful in one culture is ugly in others. The only real study I've read regarding what people find pleasing is about "faces" and the "golden ratio", some peoples faces are more appealing to the general population than others based upon certain aspects of key parts of the face. These findings did hold true across different cultural boundaries but all the other stuff like weight and body habitus, hair color/style and skin tone are pretty much cultural and learned. At one time moderately plump, lilly white skinned women were the cat's meow because only wealthy women who sat in the house all day could look like that, now the going thing is thin and burnt.

Having said all that, I can tell you from experience that you project a persona that has little to do with how you actually look. What's your real goal here? Do you want to look how everyone else thinks good looking people should look? Do you have some idea what you think beautiful is ? Do you want other people to think you are good looking, what would that give you , more acceptance , more dates, more confidence? clarify your objective

I'll explain it to you. When a woman see a good looking man she just act different, she's smiling instantly, she's ready to have sex with him (nevermind money, power, status) even if he's the most stupid guy in the world (just like man do with girls). When a woman see an average or below average guy she thinks he is just the next guy who's approaching her and therefor acting cold. For an average guy to date a hot girl he, have to be a good seducer because every mistake he make may be his last. Every word he say have to be carefully calculated. Even after that, when the average guy is in a relationship with that girl, that relationship is a thin ice, she can cheat him just cuz she met a good looking guy. But it's not just the women. Beauty is a quality that cannot really be compensate. The good looking guy will always be
more sexy than the guy with the good personality. Even man prefer the good looking guys for their friends. You can get a new job easily. A good looking women get everything for free (this is not a joke!) clothes, cars, houses, fame .... Confidence!? You can never be more confident than a good looking guy, cuz the only thing he have to say is "look at yourself".

Sorry I'm messing with your heads with this wierd thread. It was a long way to here. I read alot of books, watched alot of movies, read many threads, , learned alot of techniques, got depressed, got proffesional help even and all the information that I've learned messed up my head really bad (some books are bad stuff) so this wierd stuff is a normal everyday life for me now.

[Angela]

So I ask you again -- what do you want? What would you really have if you were "good looking"?

[jeff3]

know yourself and be yourself, use what you have. Some of the most beautiful people in the world (physically) are the most shallow. I think you are looking for a purely physical or biologic reaction, these are driven by more than looks, much more.

Why don't you just make a statement to explain your objective...like,
I wish I was better looking so I could get laid,get a job, feel better, feel accepted....

To answer your question though, "can you use IM to improve your looks?", sure. Set your intention, visualize the results you want and the way you will feel, then follow the cues you will inevitably get.

[m18pak]

Muah, I have been interested in this for a while too. IMO physical beauty is a virtue per se just like physical strength or intelligence etc, which is why I have tried to manifest it because I believe that it is something worthwhile in and of itself. What I did was that I compared pictures of the golden ratio male face with my own to see where I was lacking (I basically need my forehead to protude a bit more and my face to be slimmer so that my bone structure shows through) and now whenever I look in a mirror I just mentally superimpose that image over my face. I wouldn't want to look exactly like the golden ratio face though, which is why I only want to make the changes that'll let my face keep as much of it's original character as possible. I have an effeminate face, and I'm not trying to change that because it's me.

[Rockchick26]

This can really work!? You mean i can give myself a nose job without having surgery? lol