LoA and beauty?

[dancer]

Originally Posted by muah

I wrote this thread cuz I wanted to know if LoA can help me improve my physical attractiveness, not if looks is important or not.

Thanks anyway I'm appreciated to all of you

Why not try it and let us know if it works for you. I suggest you also work on your attitude... Women, hot or otherwise, are not objects, we are people who appreciate a 'real' connection with the opposite sex. This connection does not have to last forever. Not sure if you have got that yet, as you seem more concerned about having a hot girl whom will fck you. Try being sincere and interested in discovering women instead of putting notches on your belt, your luck might change. All the best to you.

[3500]

Wow, great thread! You guys are all so beautiful!

Originally Posted by muah

I wrote this thread cuz I wanted to know if LoA can help me improve my physical attractiveness, not if looks is important or not.

And there we were, thinking that you actually wanted to attract beautiful women and giving you advice on how to do that. Stupid us!

But I know, if I had to choose between being good looking or being attractive to beautiful women, I'd choose the latter!

Btw, LOA can help you 'improve' your physical appearance, but I believe it takes a pretty high skill of visualisation and meditation. You might be interested in this thread: Changing Physical Body

And another one: Law of Attraction - SEX & Dating

[JKrump]

I knwo how the guy feels. I, though, really do believe myself to be handsome and very goodlooking. I guess my problem is is that I want to be portrayed as this sex symbol or "god" and I don't see that happening. I do know it's possible with IM, and LoA etc.

[muah]

Thanks for the answers. I think you all don't read very carefully, so I'll explain again. To a woman there's different types of attraction. The one is purely sexual and the other is mental (maybe not the right word). The pure sexual is all about the looks of the partner. He meet the girl at the club, say "Hi", "How are you?", "Can I get you a drink?" and she's ok with that and they have sex at the end of the night. The other type of attraction is the opposite. He approach her, she's acting bitchy cuz he's the 1000000 guy for the day, he say "Hi" she say "Bye!", he say "Can I get you a drink?" she say "Thanks, bye." and so on. So to be not like that you have to develop some seductive qualities to which women are attracted: like humor, confidence, social intelligence e.t.c. With these qualities you can approach, do some tricks and then get the attraction, the pretty guy gets only with his looks. Ok, that's a something too. You're attractive now, cool! But those are not constant things, the moment you say something stupid, like "Can we see each other tommorow?" or something you're back at the starting position. You're walking on thin ice, one wrong step and your blowing everything out! Just the word "can" can throw you out of the game cuz it's a sign of low confidence! The good looks supports the attraction even if you show signs of low confidence. Is it clearer now? Looks cannot be compensate with other qualities, it's just that good looking guys don't develop other and live their life based on their looks, but if they did they'd blown everybody away. So what do you choose now 3500?

[3500]

I wanted to say: google something like "how to get laid" or "how to get any woman you want", you will find a lot of material on how any man can attract pretty women, but it seems you do already believe certain skills to attract women can be developed. You've mentioned that several times. However, somehow you still think that without 'the looks', the girl will only be with you for as long as no better looking person comes around, or for as long as you don't fail to act as someone having the qualities that attract her. So, is it your opinion that you need to be better looking in order to maintain a relationship? Is that why you want to be 'good looking' so hard?

I think you need to develop more self-confidence. You say:

Originally Posted by muah

the moment you say something stupid, like "Can we see each other tommorow?" (..) Just the word "can" can throw you out of the game cuz it's a sign of low confidence!

Good observation! So, a self-confident man would instead say: "I would like to see you again tomorrow. How about I pick you up at eight?"

This shows:
- your interest in her
- your confidence that she likes to be with you
- your masculine qualities, like taking on a leading role, knowing what you want, being direct about it

And I see your point that you believe the good looking guy will always have an advantage. Well, that might be true to a certain extent, but in the end, your physical beauty will fade, but your inner beauty remains

O, and I don't agree that sexual attraction is all about looks... no way man! It's about how you flirt, how you make her feel when making eye contact, when approaching her... it's definitely more about your inside than about your outside.

Attitude man, attitude. If you believe you can get every woman, AND stick with her, you can.

And I still choose to be attractive to beautiful women, because I think that good looking doesn't necessarily mean being attractive the way I want to be attractive, or attracting the type of women I want to attract.

And muah, don't forget, you're beautiful!

[Acting Like Godot]

Personally, I think that if a woman wants to hop into bed with me just on the basis of my good looks, well, she wouldn't be the kind of woman I want to hop into bed with.

But maybe I am just old-fashioned.

[Vasilisa]

It's so weird for me to read how gorgeous women offer themselves to some good-looking guy. Are they that desperate? I had to consult several male friends, I couldn't believe it could happen for real.

[SunnKali]

Vasilisa, I think it's weird too. What did your male friends say? It sounds more like a Penthouse Forum kind of fantasy than anything I've ever witnessed or heard about in real life.

[Vasilisa]

Well, they say:" anything is possible".
Then one didn't get the question and said that a woman makes guy offer it himself, flirting with him and so on. But really nobody experienced a beautiful woman offering herself to them.
Of course, they are not model-looking guys, but pretty attractive.
And I remember one very handsome, always horny 25 year old guy at our work. He was hitting on everybody, even women 10-15 years older than him and most of them were turning him down. He was really, really hot, just something was missing in his personality.

[SunnKali]

For some reason this thread has got me thinking of A Night at the Roxbury

YouTube - Haddaway - What Is Love From Movie Night In Roxbury Nick

[muah]

You don't believe me? Cool.

YouTube - Keys to the VIP episode 3 part 3

[SunnKali]

On a more serious side...

I've been pondering this thread.

There's physical attractiveness, and then there's something untangible called magnetism. I think you can be very magnetic without necessarily being considered physically attractive -- although, being magnetic IS attractive. Some people ooze magnetism. They can fill a room with it without speaking. It just feels good to be around them. I think this was also called charisma earlier in this thread, though I've known people who are magnetic who I wouldn't necessarily called charismatic. I think attractiveness can come from varioius sources.

Learning Strategies has a great CD called Personal Magnetism. You imagine a person you'd like to emulate, and essentially, you're borrowing characteristics from them and make them your own.

And I do think LOA or IM can help someone change their appearance. People do it every day to a small extent with their grooming. Women put their faces and do their hair just so, Men shave and style.

I think you can also borrow someone's characterics or appearance by intending it. Christian Northrup suggested women imagine a sexy woman they wanted to be like, and mentally plaster that person to them. She chose Sophia Loren for herself. And to also be consious of what it is you are projecting. Are you projecting confidence, or self-loathing?

Can you intend your nose smaller or other drastic appearance changes without plastic surgery? Maybe. It would be an interesting experiment to look in the mirror and intend changes everyday and to see what would happen after 1 month, 3 months...

Another thought I had for the OP was to learn Tantra. When you learn connect and work with your sexual energy as part of your whole being -- body, mind and spirit, there's an aliveness that awakens and the world becomes a sensual and sexual experience. It goes much deeper than just the desire to fck to acheive orgasm, and the sensations of a few inches of skin. Your whole body becomes part of the experience.

[SunnKali]

Originally Posted by muah

You don't believe me? Cool.

YouTube - Keys to the VIP episode 3 part 3

I'm sorry -- I didn't intend for it to come out that way. I only meant it wasn't something I experienced, not that it wasn't possible. There are all types of people in the world and we all seek our connections in different ways.

[muah]

Originally Posted by SunnKali

I'm sorry -- I didn't intend for it to come out that way. I only meant it wasn't something I experienced, not that it wasn't possible. There are all types of people in the world and we all seek our connections in different ways.

Well this is a thing that we usually are not aware of if we're not part of it. I was even surprised when I saw this video cuz all people in the PU community was saying "Looks don't matter at all" and I actually believed it at some extent. At this point I was disappointed to see that they're not right. I know it's better to not care about your looks and I know that I can be successful the way I am, but the fact that I'm born less attractive than others is really painful to me.

[SunnKali]

Muah - I'm sorry if any of my comments were insensitive.

I do think Paraliminals are very powerful. I know Steve Pavlina recommends them also. I used his affiliate link to get to Learning Strategies, so hopefully his affiliate number will work if you do decide to order.

Here's the link for the Instantaneous Personal Magnetism Paraliminal.
Personal Magnetism - Have a Magnetic Personality

Here's the link for all the Paraliminals. There might be others that peak your interest. Some of the ones that relate to the LOA/IM in specific are Focus ans Concentration, Happy For No Reason, Living the Law of Attraction, and You Deserve It.
Paraliminals: Self-Help CDs and Self-Improvement Audio Programs

[Dan.Linehan]

@muah - LOA is based on your core beliefs. For you to be attractive according to LOA you have to believe you are attractive.

This is not something you seem to believe about yourself. What do you have to do to get yourself to believe you are attractive?

[Phoenixrising777]

As long as your self image is dependant on sexual attention(consumated or not) you will not be at peace with yourself. I mean that's what we are talking about right? Even if you get someone attracted to you you would be wrapped up in keeping it that it would not give you peace.

Being a person that you like and moving the value of your self to a non-physical area will make you more physically desirable, but it's impossible to develop if being sexually successful is your ultimate goal.

Look deeper on why you feel that this is the key to you being a happier person. This may be hard to hear and you may reject it...but it's all true. The only way to win this game is not to play.

[muah]

People pay attention to different things. Some pay attention to how rich is somebody or what car he drives or how happy he looks like or how talanted he is... it's all about your current goals. Few years ago I payed attention to things like that in people around me and somehow this things all lead to relationship with the opposite sex. We want to drive nice car cuz of the attention we draw to us driving it therefore attract more women (in mans point view). We want more money cuz we want to afford things that can lead to more attention to us. But after a while I started to see how good looking people don't care about this stuff cuz they don't need that much attention like I do. They already have it based on their looks. Those people don't talk about the future things, dreams and expectations. They live here, now. They don't dream of the good things in life that are suppose to happen because it's already happening. That's the deepest place I can look and I think it's enough reason to dream to be.

Somehow I'm happy that I found this place, full of people who believe in the so called miracles because this gives me hope for a better future, nevermind how rediculous it sounds. I believe in the unexplained so I'm open for new information.

[Phoenixrising777]

You don't have control over what others value. You do have control over what you value. I've known many people blessed with innate physical attractiveness, and they run the gamut of miserable to happy. It isn't a free pass. It might make things easy in a lot of ways, but easy is not necessarily good for you.

Along time ago I felt rejected in many circles, and it caused me a fair amount of pain and frustration, but now I am glad it wasn't easy. I found out things about myself and my species...about how surface social success can get in the way of true emotional connection and fullfillment. How little actual happiness is found in the world of sexual conquest and carousing. How objectified and depressed many, so called, attractive women feel.

Miracles happen...true expression of one soul to another, beyond the games, beyond the escapes of the carnal. I wish you success in your endeavors...I truly do...but more so that you will see that it is not what you have built it up to be, and you can start the modern man's sacred quest to be true to himself. To win the game by not playing.

[Vasilisa]

Originally Posted by Phoenixrising777

You don't have control over what others value. You do have control over what you value. I've known many people blessed with innate physical attractiveness, and they run the gamut of miserable to happy. It isn't a free pass. It might make things easy in a lot of ways, but easy is not necessarily good for you.

Along time ago I felt rejected in many circles, and it caused me a fair amount of pain and frustration, but now I am glad it wasn't easy. I found out things about myself and my species...about how surface social success can get in the way of true emotional connection and fullfillment. How little actual happiness is found in the world of sexual conquest and carousing. How objectified and depressed many, so called, attractive women feel.

Miracles happen...true expression of one soul to another, beyond the games, beyond the escapes of the carnal. I wish you success in your endeavors...I truly do...but more so that you will see that it is not what you have built it up to be, and you can start the modern man's sacred quest to be true to himself. To win the game by not playing.

Beautiful! I couldn't say better!

[Phoenixrising777]

Thanks!

[Joely]

Originally Posted by Phoenixrising777

You don't have control over what others value. You do have control over what you value. I've known many people blessed with innate physical attractiveness, and they run the gamut of miserable to happy. It isn't a free pass. It might make things easy in a lot of ways, but easy is not necessarily good for you.

Along time ago I felt rejected in many circles, and it caused me a fair amount of pain and frustration, but now I am glad it wasn't easy. I found out things about myself and my species...about how surface social success can get in the way of true emotional connection and fullfillment. How little actual happiness is found in the world of sexual conquest and carousing. How objectified and depressed many, so called, attractive women feel.

Miracles happen...true expression of one soul to another, beyond the games, beyond the escapes of the carnal. I wish you success in your endeavors...I truly do...but more so that you will see that it is not what you have built it up to be, and you can start the modern man's sacred quest to be true to himself. To win the game by not playing.

I just want to concur and say that's a really beautiful post there. After a decade or so of believing I was the ugliest creature on the planet, I realised, a couple of years ago, that I was sexy and beautiful in a way that appealed to men, and I did have a few one night stands. I could pick whoever I wanted in the bar and thanks to my knack for dancing and moving and generally being, it wasn't hard to "pick somebody up". But what I learned very quickly was how deeply unsatisfying the connection turned out to be. Deep down, it came from feeling insecure and I think a lot of beautiful women feel paranoid, and that their only value to men lies in their physical beauty. It leaves you operating in a surface world which is deeply unsatisfying, and even the most surface (superficial?) of people feel unfulfilled.

You'll never feel good about yourself if you believe that 1. physical attractiveness is all that counts and you're determined to keep proving it to everybody and 2. you feel ugly. You'll also never feel happy about the world you're living in or what you're doing with your life. I've gone from being the kind of woman who went around saying men had no interest in her whatsoever to wondering how on earth to politely tell guys to go away without being offended or worse, treated as though I'm just playing hard to get. Nothing has changed about my physically, but what has changed is how I see myself, and what I want in life. I hold myself differently, I smile differently, I behave differently. That's what really makes the difference.

I would much, much rather be involved with a loving, caring man in a LL-whatever Angela calls it relationship than think that my self-esteem can be bolstered by gathering hunky guys around me as though it was some kind of reverse harem. There's so much more to human connection than that.