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Old 01-22-2008, 10:37 PM
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Hey, Vee, you don't have to be happy *about* anything; you can just choose it, if you want to. In fact, there are no required emotions *about* anything. Those things don't *make* you happy or outraged or grievous; it's your thoughts about them that have you feeling that way. And as I mentioned, you can instantly change the way you feel, just by thinking on purpose.

So, that's a good question: What's your purpose? What is the game you want to play? If you could have anything in the world, emotion-wise, what would you want? What are you willing to give up or generate to get there?
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don't have to be happy. to be at peace and to accept is enough.

Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl might help you with that. He writes about his experience as a concentration camp survivor and about how he had to find beauty in the worst of situations. In the end, he is said to have had more freedom than his captors, even though they had more liberty.
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Hey, Vee, you don't have to be happy *about* anything; you can just choose it, if you want to. In fact, there are no required emotions *about* anything. Those things don't *make* you happy or outraged or grievous; it's your thoughts about them that have you feeling that way. And as I mentioned, you can instantly change the way you feel, just by thinking on purpose.

So, that's a good question: What's your purpose? What is the game you want to play? If you could have anything in the world, emotion-wise, what would you want? What are you willing to give up or generate to get there?
So nothing is good or bad I give it the label with my thoughts. i understand that.

But then someone has the right to feel murder isn't wrong? But many new age books judge murder as "harmful" and says it will harm the person doing the deed and the universe.

So when they say what they judge negative emotions such as anger or hate will block us is this wrong?

I am very angry towards someone who has hurt me at the moment. I was trying to change my thoughts as i believed it was harmful to me. But if i think i wanna feel this way (angry) should i?

As for my life purpose i adore interacting with different people. Emotion-wise i'd like excitement and love. Don't know how to translate that into a purpose yet.
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"So when they say what they judge negative emotions such as anger or hate will block us is this wrong? "

I would say you be your own judge of that. When you hate someone dose it really make you feel good to have those thoughts. I have found that people who are mad at me for some reason or another. Fester up all this emotion and I am not even aware that they are mad me.
So If there is a payoff to being mad at someone, Do It if you like.
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Vee, I tend to tune out when people talk about "right" and "wrong", because those words simply don't mean anything for me in generating a life I love.

But I get what you mean, I think ... you're worried that if you stop judging, then you'll be condoning, and that can't be good! But letting go of judgement doesn't mean you're condoning; it's just the first step to being accepting. If you are not accepting what's real, then you are too busy boxing ghosts to make a difference in your life.

For instance, someone has hurt you, and you're angry. Okay. Are you going to stay angry? For how long? Does someone else, like the perpetrator, have to do something before you will stop being angry? Do you have other requirements that lay outside yourself that must be met in order for you to change the way you feel?

Or, are you willing to take on the task of doing what it takes to feel good, whatever that is -- taking 100% responsibility for it. That may mean taking steps to avoid getting hurt, or reporting him to the police, or letting him know that his actions have hurt you and requesting that he doesn't do it again, or on and on. It almost certainly means forgiving, regardless of what the perpetrator says or does.

If you're not willing to take on that task, that's fine. You are perfectly free to stay angry as long as you like.

So, you get to choose. And like you, everyone else does, too! I love it.
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Adding onto Angela's EXCELLENT (adn AWESOME) post: Brian Tracy often writes in his books that whenever he is feeling down, he says to himself, "I am responsible." And you really are, even in a non-SR or LoA sense.
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I am very angry towards someone who has hurt me at the moment. I was trying to change my thoughts as i believed it was harmful to me. But if i think i wanna feel this way (angry) should i?
YES! YES! YES!
Just remind yourself you're choosing to feel like that and you can stop whenever you want. Your mood is not depended on outside conditions.

I'm angry but I hear angry is bad, so I should think good thoughts because LOA says so, and my books say so, but I'm really angry right now, and if I think bad thoughts I'm attracting more bad stuff, right? But I've BEEN thinking angry stuff so I have to think 3x more good thoughts to counter act all my bad thoughts and feelings. So I'm thinking all these good thoughts and, damn!!!!! I want to f***ing kill someone!, I'm going to explode!"...

The above is something I made up and is a complete bulls**t thought process. Allow yourself to be as you are in the moment. Express! Expression is very transformative. Allow your experience to unfold without knowing where it is going. If you fully receive the moment, that allows the moment to evolve. If you fight the moment, resist what you're feeling, you will have no movement, no new spark to move from. The past will repeat itself, so to speak.
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My problem is,dharma and torilink,do you have different beliefs than my beliefs?Also are you my manifestations or Vee's manifestations or your own manifestations?Am i your manifestation,or Vee's manifestion or my own manifestation?
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My problem is,dharma and torilink,do you have different beliefs than my beliefs?Also are you my manifestations or Vee's manifestations or your own manifestations?Am i your manifestation,or Vee's manifestion or my own manifestation?

All of the above. I explained this to you before, in the context of your hypothetical example of your uncle getting cancer.
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Hi Vee

I agree with you on the fact that we do not attract everything that happens to us into our lives.

We have friends who married when both were fit and mobile and suddenly the doctors discovered the wife had multiple sclerosis. The husband had to give up his job to look after her. She's permanently in a wheel chair now. Did she also attract that to herself? And him? Would he have liked or chosen that situation for himself?

Many of us grew up with abuse and now live with the scars it left. Did we attract that to ourselves? And if so, how do you know? And were you abused as a child. I often found those with the least experience to have the most advice.

Moe Howard said: Only fools are positive.
And I guess it's because the rest of us have experienced the awfulness life has to offer.
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^ Your assumption there is that everybody who has gone through trauma is negative? Alternatively, that those who are positive are those who are inexperienced and that life is actually bad, positive people just don't know it yet? Ignore the question of SR/IM.

Helen Keller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Franklin D. Roosevelt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And he said:
"The country needs and, unless I mistake its temper, the country demands bold, persistent experimentation. It is common sense to take a method and try it: If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something." Sounds fairly positive and optimistic to me.

I personally spent many years being bullied, to the point of physical fights, but I'm still quite positive. I will not elaborate on the other crap in my life, but it includes a sister with scholisos and chronic iron deficiency (kinda need that to live), and much other stuff.

Let me suggest a different theory:

You have a certain belief about the way the world is. You, being human, also fall prey to confirmation bias and find things in the world to support your beliefs, so that your beliefs become a self-fulfilling prophesy. Change your beliefs, even if physical reality won't change, your experience of reality will change. My beliefs make me very happy. My physical results are also improving every day.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ering-beliefs/

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ering-beliefs/

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...ctive-beliefs/
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Hi Vee

I agree with you on the fact that we do not attract everything that happens to us into our lives.

We have friends who married when both were fit and mobile and suddenly the doctors discovered the wife had multiple sclerosis. The husband had to give up his job to look after her. She's permanently in a wheel chair now. Did she also attract that to herself? And him? Would he have liked or chosen that situation for himself?

Many of us grew up with abuse and now live with the scars it left. Did we attract that to ourselves? And if so, how do you know? And were you abused as a child. I often found those with the least experience to have the most advice.

Moe Howard said: Only fools are positive.
And I guess it's because the rest of us have experienced the awfulness life has to offer.
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It is entirely up to you to believe what you will.

And that is how your reality will become.

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So, yes. You are right, in your own way. The Law of Attraction says so.
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We have friends who married when both were fit and mobile and suddenly the doctors discovered the wife had multiple sclerosis. The husband had to give up his job to look after her. She's permanently in a wheel chair now. Did she also attract that to herself? And him? Would he have liked or chosen that situation for himself?
The answers given to this question seem to be more about how to make the best of the hand a person's been dealt, rather than about whether a person with m.s. has attracted that disease to herself somehow. And another question that would connect with that is, can people rid themselves of m.s. through the law of attraction?

If you're saying a person can't change physical reality but can change their attitude about it, that doesn't really sound like law of attraction.
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