When you have a totla faith in LOA and it fails-- how do you live after that?

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

It's interesting to me that this process is so heartbreaking for you when it didn't seem to work, that you feel like you have to give up. It makes me want to ask, why do you have to give it up? Why isn't the process fun? Even if it turns out that you can't create a relationship with him, shouldn't LoA be gone about in a light-hearted more playful way? Isn't that part of what they mean by detachment, that the outcome really shouldn't be so essential?

That detachment advice we get about LoA seems so contradictory, and it's also one of the more fascinating parts of this whole thing, I think. It seems to be a lot more difficult to manifest something when we are really attached to the outcome. This is why it seems much more difficult for people to create what they want out of a place of lack -- because they care too much about the outcome. I see this with myself, I think. I think we can see this all over on this forum also.

We talked in the other thread earlier about my own manifesting a meeting with a rock star even though it was totally not my plan -- it just happened (although I did have to go to a concert for it to happen, I couldn't just sit on my couch ) -- and I thought even then, it probably was inevitable considering how I was walking around with this Big Crush going on all the time. But -- none of it mattered to me, really. While at the apex of this Big Crush, I would hear specific music from this band all the time, album cuts, I would run across their old vinyl albums all over the place, it would get hilarious sometimes and spooky sometimes, how much I could attract all this. But -- none of it mattered. I didn't really care one way or the other. It was just fun, and I was just going about my life, being.

And honestly, I don't know how to go about manifesting like this when it comes to things that actually really do matter, that are really very very important.

A question for anyone who's skilled at all this -- is that an essential part of the process? Complete detachment from the outcome? It doesn't matter whether it happens or not, it's just fun if it does? That's a tough stipulation!

I dont know how to do it either,if its not something you deeply care about. The books even say,the more energy you put into this,the more it will work. Whatever you think about,you bring about. You have to FEEL GOOD about it,those are the 2 words this book uses the most. How can you feel good about something if you stop thinking about it and focus on other things instead? If i detach (which would be pretty damn hard since this has been the foremost thing on my mind for over a year),then the universe will pick up my lack of thoughts about him. I guess i'll need to read up on the art of detachment cuz to me it sounds more like giving up.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by eblight

Tigerlilly, I find your posts inspiring and compassionate and I really want to thankyou for increasing my understandings of the LOA.

One thing I'd like to say is that LOA also requires action. As you said Edison did not give up. He kept taking action until the light came on.

LOA also requires our minds to be tightly closed against all negative and discouraging influences.

LOA calls for us to become detached from the outcome, to let go, to certainly have our dreams but to remain living in the present.

When things don't work out the way we want them to be, it calls for us to have faith that ultimately we are not in control and that the Universe may well have other plans for us!

I first noticed that you are from New Zealand...lol,let me explain. The guy i like wants to move to NZ and after i learned about it,i thought it would be the perfect place to live cuz i cant stand this country anymore. So then after i thought,well,if i'm going to be with him i'd end up living there too! And i was so excited. Then,THIS IS NO LIE,the next day,out of the blue,somebody at work asked me if i would ever want to live there! And every few days after that i either read it somewhere or heard someone say it on tv,and every time it popped up,i said to msyelf,'oh my God!! This IS going to happen,this is too much of a coincidence!" It happened like 10 or 11 times over the course of the next week! But,now i feel like this can't work so every time i see "new zealand" now i just get sad. Anyway,on to your post...
Like i said in my last post,i dont understand how the law of detachment can work in your favor. LoA says the more energy you put into something,the better. And whatever you think about,you bring about. So by NOT thinking about it,how can you bring it about? And why would anyone want to manifest something they dont care about in the first place? They say you have to really want it,well...to me its impossible to really want something and not think about it or care if i get it or not.

[fascinoma]

My response to the OP...

I understand my failures to be manifested by me as well, and to serve a larger purpose. Sometimes you're going to fail at a few things before getting a big win at anything.

I started consciously manifesting (first via spellcraft then via LoA techniques which are the same thing IMHO) at 17. I manifested all of my boyfriends, ALL of them. I got dumped a few times.

You know what? At 34, I'm glad I'm not still with any of those guys.

[flutterby]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Hi Rockchick

I made a PDF file and was trying to create a sub-page and upload it on my blog for you. But I'm having some technical problems.

The PDF file is basically 9 pages that I've scanned from a book. It's a self-hypnotic script which you can read out, make into a tape recording and play back to yourself. The topic, of course, is how to attract the love of your life (oh, this script provides for a specific person to be attracted too).

If you follow the instructions as you hear them, you will be guided into a hypnotic state and then into various visualisations to help you get the person /relationship you desire. It's a fairly long exercise and works on a whole lot of important things in a relationship, including passion, love, loyalty, warmth, compatibility, integrity etc.

It also is a two-way exercise, meaning that you gotta give all these things to your desired partner, if you expect to get them from your partner.

If you think this script could be helpful to you and you want to give it a shot, email me at actinglikegodot@gmail.com and I'll email the PDF to you.

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hI ALG,

can i also email you for this PDF? i have been searching for something like this myself and i must say LOA worked for me when i came across this post
so the pdf might be an answer too

[Acting Like Godot]

I've discovered a more convenient way - go to this website and get what you need:

Hypnosis Downloads.com | Online Self Hypnosis MP3 & Hypnotherapy Scripts Center

[4Mind4Life]

In my opinion, the LOA doesn't fail.

Originally Posted by Floridagal

As far as I understand when you practice LOA you have to take it seriously. You should have faith and feel emotionally positive as if you already have those things in your life…


Please detach, try to do something that is not way close to our ego, be spiritually grounded, do research,,,, Of course LOA works!!!!! You start to experience those positive emotions even if those things are not tangible at that particular moment. It is one of the keys to LOA.

It is like you manifest 10K of extra income it is totally reasonable that you can go to a mall and spend 2 K and charge it on your credit card knowing that you will you get your 10K and will be able to pay those 2K easily.. The faith means you believe unconditionally even if tangible evidents are not here in the moment…..

I have started to practice LOA when I was spiritually prepared, have done research, energy work, and consulted some psychics on that topic. I was not skeptical AND very POSITIVE. I knew when it was time to go. It didn’t work out and most things had timeframes (actually a lot of posts here indicate times on their LOA project). It brought to depression on my part. I have walked away from LOA for almost a year, when my depression was finally under control for 4-5 months I have tried again(this time a very small project) and it didn’t happen….. I originally have never experienced this conditions.

Of course you can manifest that great pizza with all you favorite fixings and drive to that little pizza place and they would be close. Sure most of us will be disappointed….

But there are many people who try to get certain things in their lives that are MUCH MORE substantial than a lunch pizza…. They go and try to find solutions and if there are no answers they apply LOA.


They manifest stuff that is very important for them and I am not only talking about materialistic stuff….

YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE FEELING AND EXPERINCING A JOY OF SOMETHING THAT YOU MANIFEST AND FEEL IT IS HERE......

I was manifesting 2 major things in my life and one was seeing my family and friends in Europe fro Xmas 2006. I was manifesting a reunion with my grandma as a part of that visit. I felt all those positive emotions from her and my part. She wanted me to visit and I wanted to thank you in person for all those graet things she has done for me when I was a kid.. I moved to the US became older and more appreciative of things.... It has not happened and she passed away unexpectedly several months later…. Yes I wasn't in Europe at for Xmas.. Very shortly I hit down a road of depression for the first time in my live.....And had strenght to seek a tretment and got out of depressionin summer 2006....

I have bought sleepers for my grandma. I was manifesting my presence on that family gathering in her house . I knew she would like those sleepers. I couldn’t find a gift for her for quite a while but I did finally and still keep it but she is in a grave now….

HOW CAN YOU JUST TAKE THINGS EASY IF YOU APPLY LOA TO THINGS THAT HAVE A DEEP MEANING FOR YOU? HOW CAN YOU JUST HANDLE A FAILURE IF YOU WERE LIVING A JOY OF THOSE THINGS AND FEELING THEM IN YOUR LIFE IN A SO POISTIVE NATURAL WAY…


YOU CAN'T JUST ERASE SOMETHING YOU FELT WAS HERE AND EXPERINCED ALL THAT JOY....

[nightdiamond]

Hi everyone, I've been reading this this discussion and like it, I find the different views interesting..

I really sympathize with the posters who are confused and even skeptical of L.O.A... Their questions are pretty normal, especially when you are confused about it... why not have questions when you are confused about something?

cd2wheeler had a good point about trying to influence another person's actions using L.O.A... the idea of using L.OA. to create a situation where an individual reacts exactly the way you visualized him or her to is not always realistic...

If it gets too extreme, the end result is a type of superstitous thinking, where one thinks by simply visualizing this, it will happened exactly as visualized...the person is acting this way, it looks this way ect...

Here's an example, remember the advice for a person nervous about going to a party? Just visualize everything going ok... the people are fascinated by you, everyone is smiling, you're having great conversation, the life of the party....

But when you actually get there, it seems different... it doesn't go that way at all, people's reactions are different- including yours....

It's because you really did nothing support that idea... Practicing how to say hi and greet people, body language, how friendly you appear, preparing topics of conversation before you leave... AND the advice that you don't have to be the life of the party OR do things a certain way to impress everyone....

Do those things, and it may help one enjoy the party a lot more than trying visualize everything going ok...


Everyone that posted had some good points...Jennihul's was that maybe Floridagal should just stop if L.O.A is hurting her ....

cd2wheeler's that if you're using L.O.A to influnce another's person's behavior, based on a scene that was visualized, you may be setting yourself up for disappointment..

In my approach, I tend to leave out L.O.A when exploring manifesting; I test, explore, ask questions, investigate.. when something appears to work I remember it, keep it as a tool, but still remember it was my own experience...

Without the rules of L.O.A and other manifesting ideas, I go straight into experiencing and knowing... not that I disrespect the idea, only that I prefer to use a different method...

If Floridagal doesn't mind, I would like to ask exactly how she does her L.O.A visualizing; sometimes the way it done or the method used has a lot to do with the result.....maybe I and the other posters can help once we have more details....

Still, Floridagal, look at it this way, you are a university professor! That is a great accomplishment, something to be proud of! There are people I'm sure that would want to become one and use L.O.A to attract it and may have not; And yet you are one!

Take care.....

[jawillie]

I get this now. I didn't get this when I first read this, when it was first posted. But, I get it now.

It was Tolle's words that awoke me to the fact that you can't just decide to be a good person and then do good things, resulting you to "be a good person." There needs to be a shift in consciousness. I get that now.

I know this has nothing to do with anything in the thread, but I was happy to re-read some posts here and actually understand what was being said.

I think when we are struggling with something it is simply that we have not had that shift yet... we have not awakened that part of our consciousness. That is nothing to feel "bad" about or beat yourself up about. I say trust your journey. "In a free and easy manner".... to me that means with a light heart and trust that it will happen as is best. I (ego-self) does not always KNOW what is best. Going with the flow of life with a light heart will make a more pleasurable journey.

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Intellectually, almost all of us know what we should do to become "a better person", in nearly all areas of our lives.

Whether you can actually do those things is another question altogether. And if you fail, it isn't necessarily for lack of trying. .