Obesity epidemic and LOA

[LoveFreedom]

Hi everyone,

I have been thinking about the current obesity crisis, eating disorders and weight issues in terms of LOA, particularly in terms of how self-perceptions and beliefs affect (create) our lives. I came to a conclusion that the weight problem; the way we are preoccupied with it and the consequences of this preoccupation (and of beliefs and behaviours etc) may be easier understood by looking at the collective effects in addition to individual. It is possible that what we think, feel about our bodies, our perception of where we are in terms of fat may be affecting us collectively as much as it affects us individually.

Take for example eating disorders. Apparenty, many people with eating disorders see themselves as fat - even as they become dangerously thin, many has a distorted perception of their body weight and looks. I am sure they send 'rockets of desire' into universe to be very slim, but, as they are not in a state of relaxed acceptance, and they keep seeing themselves as fat they shouldn't be able to 'attract' the thinnes and they should be reproducing the 'fat' reality. And yet, they can get awfully thin.

But maybe they affect the way we all look (collectively) as the number of fat and obese people increases.

In fact, most people in Western societies (especially women, but more increasingly men as well) see themselves as fat. Is that why we have an obesity epidemic, we create this collective fatness by our self perception??

What complicates things is that as we shoot the 'rockets of desire' to look thin and model like, but consistently see ourselves as unsatifactorily fat, there are also images of starving people in the media (for example, images of starving children and mothers in Africa) that potntially create a great deal of desires for 'less thinness'. Healthy plump versus unhealthy fat?

I don't have any answers, nor am I proposing a 'theory' or an explanation. Just something I have been pondering about lately.

Does anyone has any thought on this? I am specifically interested in your thought on how we as individuals can be affecting the collective level. Abraham talks about the 'universe expanding' as a result of our desires. And they don't mean individual expansion only. The way I see it is that we are turning this world into a fat place (by increasing dissatisfaction with our body weight), the same way we are turning it into a world with more and more oportunities, stimulation, wealth, contrast... you name it.

Any thoughts?

[robertanthony]

L.O.A. does nothing to challange Obsity or promote health in any way - those that are working to promote health are the winners. L.O.A. is very much to do with what you want rather than what you give. It's the givers of products and services that win.

YouTube - Wellness Revolution

[Acting Like Godot]

Hello Lovefreedom

I note that you are posting from Australia. Yes there is an obesity crisis in Australia - a very serious one - but one mustn't presume it's a worldwide crisis.

It's a worldwide crisis in developed countries perhaps. Still the majority of the world's population are from developing countries, where obesity is a luxury that they cannot afford.

[Dan.Linehan]

[Dan.Linehan]

IMO the obesity trend we're seeing is simply the result of a typically very unhealthy diet combined with a very sedentary lifestyle.

For example,

• Most common cause of death in U.S.: Heart attack
• How frequently a heart attack kills in U.S.: Every 45 seconds
• Risk of death from heart attack for the average American man: 50%
• Risk of death from heart attack for the average American man who consumes no meat: 15%
• Risk of death from heart attack for the average American man who consumes no meat, dairy products or eggs: 4%

Presumably vegetarians eat less junk food too, but numbers like these speak volumes.

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

IMO the obesity trend we're seeing is simply the result of a typically very unhealthy diet combined with a very sedentary lifestyle.

For example,

• Most common cause of death in U.S.: Heart attack
• How frequently a heart attack kills in U.S.: Every 45 seconds
• Risk of death from heart attack for the average American man: 50%
• Risk of death from heart attack for the average American man who consumes no meat: 15%
• Risk of death from heart attack for the average American man who consumes no meat, dairy products or eggs: 4%

Presumably vegetarians eat less junk food too, but numbers like these speak volumes.

Presumably, those statistics are the truth... It's kind of interesting though, I have a friend that always says i'm getting fat or I'm a fat man (even when I didn't think he was) yet eveytime I see him now, he looks a little chunkier...

[BladeRunner]

How can a collective consciousness affect a collective problem??

Only if you believe there is a collective consciousness.

Dex

[LoveFreedom]

thanks everyone for your responses.

This is not usual LOA stuff.

Bladerunner, good question about the collective consciousness. I am not sure whether there is such a 'thing' but we are certainly not 'isolated islands' and so must be influenced and influence the more collective strata of existence. Whether it's family, community, neighbourhood, state, country, world, universe... So I am sure what we think have some impact on our world(s).

And yes D.L., I agree that unhealthy diet is a direct cause. From what we know, if you stuff yourself with fat, sugar and booze and you sure will balloon. and yet. as someone noted here, KNOWING and THINKING that we are eating unhealthy may be a necessary part of this balooning too.

It's a great graph D.L. quite a scary trend indeed!!!

I did not intend this post to be an argument about obesity epidemic. being a social scientist involved in social psychology and public health research, I often wonder how one can marry these disciplines and Abraham's teachings. There are many questions coming to my mind lately, since I strated studying Loa and other laws. I find this stuff trully fascinating, just trying to make sense of it beyond my own little nose. It's actually quite exciting!

I listened to and read a lot from Abraham's workshops; people usually ask personal questions. But there must be ways other strata (collective levels) are interacting with the individual level. I thought maybe others ponder on these things as well...

love to all

[LoveFreedom]

ALG, no, it's not Australian crisis , it is actually a worldwide one:

"22 SEPTEMBER 2005 | GENEVA -- The World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that over one billion people are overweight globally, and that if current trends continue, that number will increase to 1.5 billion by 2015. This warning comes in advance of World Heart Day on 25 September.

Once considered a problem only in wealthy countries, WHO estimates show that overweight and obesity are now dramatically on the rise in low and middle income countries. This is due to a number of factors, including a global shift in diet towards increased energy, fat, salt and sugar intake, and a trend towards decreased physical activity due to the sedentary nature of modern work and transportation, and increasing urbanisation.

According to WHO estimates, more than 75% of women over the age of 30 are now overweight in countries as diverse as Barbados, Egypt, Malta, Mexico, South Africa, Turkey, and the United States. Estimates are similar for men, with over 75% now overweight in, for example, Argentina, Germany, Greece, Kuwait, New Zealand, Samoa, and the United Kingdom. Notably, the Western Pacific islands of Nauru and Tonga have the highest global prevalence of overweight where nine out of every 10 adults are overweight.

“The sheer magnitude of the overweight and obesity problem is staggering,” said Dr Catherine Le-Galès Camus, WHO Assistant Director-General of Noncommunicable Diseases and Mental Health. “The rapid increase of overweight and obesity in many low and middle income countries foretells an overwhelming chronic disease burden in these countries in the next 10 to 20 years, if action is not taken now.”

[Lola]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

this is completely mesmerizing.

[Jennihul]

As far as LOA and obesity, I have a slightly different take but I agree we are manifesting our fat.

'Greed' and 'having it all' are a common theme in people's minds and thoughts here in America. Even if they give lip service to charities and giving, I believe that ego greed is manifesting as obesity. Hoarding. The pervasive ideal of over-buying junk we really don't need equates to a physical consuming of junk and bulging at the waist.

Even the Earth is expanding at the waist. As above, so below.....

Earth's expanding girth - physicsworld.com



Jennifer