how to manifest left hand lost in accident?

[epetro]

what are the limits of I-M model?

if there are no limits how to answer the question in the title?

if there are ones what a disclaimer should be posted before any article on I-M?

[Ati]

Oh epetro, I hope this hasn't really happened to you or a loved one !

Still, people do use I-M and many similar sorts of practices to work with the challenges and tragedies of such things as cancer, loss of vision and other very difficult physical problems. Maybe these practices are most important when there isn't a readily accessible solution or "cure" to a problem of whatever kind, grieving the death of a loved one for instance.

May I most respectfully suggest that you consider what sorts of intentions would be potentially helpful in such a situation? Bring back a loved one or a hand or eyesight or a body free of metastatic cancer-- quite likely not (although there have been amazing experiences with seemingly incurable diseases). Find meaning in a life in spite of tragedy? That can be possible.

Please do post further....if this is more than a theoretical question, especially. I think you will find a lot of support and possibly some ideas you can use here.

All my best to you,

[Richard_Todd]

My understanding is as follows: Something will only manifest if you believe it can. This is why most people will not be able to successfully manifest an ability to fly. No matter how much they want it, and how clearly they visualize it, and how carefully they word their intention, in the back of their minds they will still "know" that people cannot fly. Similarly, I bet you believe on some or all levels that hands do not regenerate or otherwise reappear. Because of this, you will not be able to manifest it.

Even for attainable goals, the first step is to fully believe that it can happen, and that you deserve it. Until that barrier is overcome, none of the rest of the I-M model will be able to help.

[Ati]

OK, but do we want to fly or do we want meaning in life, peace, increased personal abilities to think, to love, to be creative, good things for ourselves and others ? I think this is the important thing.

When we are talking about a significant loss or problem, then I think we need to broaden our perspectives beyond simply trying to analyze whether or not the metaphysics (or religious themes or other unseen forces for lack of better terminology just now--) "work" and get to some of what seem to be deeper and at the same time more practical issues.

just my thoughts,

[Richard_Todd]

Originally Posted by Ati

OK, but do we want to fly or do we want meaning in life, peace, increased personal abilities to think, to love, to be creative, good things for ourselves and others ? I think this is the important thing.

I agree with you; i was just trying to answer the question of the thread "how to manifest left hand lost in accident?" a little more literally.

[Ati]

I see what you mean, Richard, then...

I am concerned whenever someone comes in describing a serious problem they may be having. i want to make sure we make the best of the chance to offer something that might be helpful. I see what you were getting at there.

[tomjen]

For those of you who wish to do something like this, it would properly help you to know that scientists are working on regeneration limps - and they had some success with a I belive chicken embryo. While this is a long way to regeneration a hand, It shows it is possible.

[epetro]

Originally Posted by Ati

Oh epetro, I hope this hasn't really happened to you or a loved one !

thanks ati you are very kind person
i'm sorry i didnt stated that it is a theoretical question.

for me it is a rethorical question - you cannot manifest lost hand - thats it. but i can imagine that you can manifest a wealth. so what is the difference beetween two intentions?

i can guess answer - you just dont believe. thats all?

[Ati]

Originally Posted by epetro

for me it is a rethorical question - you cannot manifest lost hand - thats it. but i can imagine that you can manifest a wealth. so what is the difference beetween two intentions?

i can guess answer - you just dont believe. thats all?

(breath of relief ) I'm glad that was rhetorical...

A lot on this board addresses just that question and it's a great one.

I'd just say that there is so much around us that a particular person might wish they could experience themselves...a loving relationship, peace/forgiveness/healing in an existing relationship, good health habits, wealth, creativity, and so on, you know what I mean...and this process of intention-manifestation can help put a person's mind, heart, psyche into a perspective from which such things may well become part of their life. Hard work, attention to the process or some similar process which feels right to the person, sharing and learning from others--all this seems important.

We can get off into spaghetti monsters (previous post on another thread), flying from rooftops and other such things but I think it's important to remember that for many people, or for people in general at many times in life, the less dramatic wishes I mentioned in the paragraph above might well seem "just as impossible".... and that's where this practice can be most helpful, methinks

[epetro]

Originally Posted by Ati

and that's where this practice can be most helpful, methinks

so you can agree that I-M approach to living has some practical borders? if so do you agree with existance of obective reality?

[Sadhana]

Originally Posted by epetro

thanks ati you are very kind person
i'm sorry i didnt stated that it is a theoretical question.

for me it is a rethorical question - you cannot manifest lost hand - thats it. but i can imagine that you can manifest a wealth. so what is the difference beetween two intentions?

i can guess answer - you just dont believe. thats all?

IMHO: yes.

[Richard_Todd]

Originally Posted by epetro

so you can agree that I-M approach to living has some practical borders? if so do you agree with existance of obective reality?

The border is your beliefs, whatever they may be. This is because, if your intentions sidestep your beliefs, you will still unconsciously and subconsciously put out out intentions that contradict your conscious intentions. They will cancel each other out, or worse.

So, the fact that you think there are probably practical borders to I-M is the very reason those borders will exist for you. :-) The borders manifest because of your thoughts on them--it is an example of I-M at work in and of itself.

So, like in Steve's recent article, if I am inwardly afraid of what wealth will do to my life, then I will have trouble manifesting wealth until I deal with that. If I don't believe that there's a way to get my hand back, I will not be able to manifest it. If I don't believe I deserve a soulmate, she's not going to manifest. Your beliefs have to be in alignment with your intentions, and after that I don't know of any borders or boundaries.

[epetro]

Originally Posted by Richard_Todd

if I am inwardly afraid of what wealth will do to my life, then I will have trouble manifesting wealth until I deal with that. If I don't believe that there's a way to get my hand back, I will not be able to manifest it. If I don't believe I deserve a soulmate, she's not going to manifest.

in quotation are presented three intention objects: wealth, soulmate and lost hand. imho they are not the same, and unlike first two the third couldnot be achieved with intentions, affirmations and other stuff like this. some strong belief divides third from others.

do you really tell someone who lost loved one not to accept reality and find purpose to live further but to change beliefs and prepare to meet that person in good health few days later?

[Pagoda]

Originally Posted by epetro

for me it is a rethorical question - you cannot manifest lost hand - thats it.

I would ask why you don't believe a body can regrow a hand. The body grew the hand in the first place. The body is constantly regrowing its skin, its hair, all its cells are being replaced constantly.

Where is the dividing line between what the body can regrow and what it can't? And what is the reason for this dividing line?

Science certainly hasn't found a physical reason why we can't regrow a hand. So perhaps the reason isn't physical, perhaps the reason is mental. We don't believe we can.

[Richard_Todd]

Originally Posted by epetro

do you really tell someone who lost loved one not to accept reality and find purpose to live further but to change beliefs and prepare to meet that person in good health few days later?

I don't think it's realistic to expect someone to be able to change their beliefs in such a fundamental way. They can say they've accepted the notion that dead people often return to health, but they can't fool the universe, so to speak.

(but, according to my understanding of I-M/LoA and subjective reality, that is all it would theoretically take)

A person that could successfully do that, and then actually manifest such an intention, does not exist in my world, because my beliefs about what is possible would prevent me from seeing it that way (or possibly seeing it at all).

[Frans]

Who dares to answer epetro's question:

Originally Posted by epetro

do you really tell someone who lost loved one not to accept reality and find purpose to live further but to change beliefs and prepare to meet that person in good health few days later?

[SamBeaven]

The way I reconcile this problem is in the belief that the universe gives you want you need, which isn't necessarily what you want.

For example, in Jay Abraham's book Getting everything you can out of all you've got, he talks about how when a man goes into a hardware store looking for a drill, he doesn't really want a drill - he wants holes. Likewise, when a person wants to regrow a lost limb, he doesn't really want the limb back - he wants any number of things, maybe to be able to hold, to feel, to touch, to recover from the trauma of losing a limb. He might not get the hand back, but instead he might get a prosthetic limb that lets him pick stuff up, he might get some sort of experimental force feedback device that allows him to feel the sensation of touch again, etc etc.

I believe that the desire for flight is the same thing - you desire to fly, so you get on a plane, or a hanglider, or one of those awesome wingsuit thingies (yes, I know those last two aren't technically forms of flight, but they're close enough). It's not exactly how you imagined it, but you get what you asked for all the same.

Personally I think one of the main barriers to I-M is the concern with the how. It really doesn't matter how it happens, it doesn't matter if my soulmate looks or acts exactly how I imagine her - as long as she ticks all the right boxes it's fine by me.

[eternomi]

Who manifested the hand before it was cut off in the accident? If you didn't do it, I doubt you can do it again. Talk to the one who did it in the first place.

[billthomas]

This question was put to Abraham/Hicks in a workshop and this is what was said:

Someone asked us recently, "Is thre any limitation to the body's ability to heal?"

And we said, "None, other than the belief you hold."

And he said, "Then why aren't people growing new limbs?"

And we said, "Because no one believes that they can."

[Kristoffer]

Originally Posted by SamBeaven

Likewise, when a person wants to regrow a lost limb, he doesn't really want the limb back - he wants any number of things, maybe to be able to hold, to feel, to touch, to recover from the trauma of losing a limb. He might not get the hand back, but instead he might get a prosthetic limb that lets him pick stuff up, he might get some sort of experimental force feedback device that allows him to feel the sensation of touch again.

Very true! And I am sure in the future there will be possible with combinations of artificial hands and "grown" parts. Not likely the full hand just "grows" back. But that is just my lack of faith.


I can manifest small things. Easy now to make my wife do the dishes. Or what kind of food will be served when we go away for dinner. Larger things are still harder. I have had a few "alpha" manifestations (Steves word). The day after watching the movie "The secret" I got a check in my mail! Just like that guy in the film! Still trying to get som real money from my websites and winning in the next karate tournament. I know those things can be done too. After that I am on to bending space and time. Anybody tried that? Like the character Hiro in the TV series "Heroes"?

[Lonewolf]

You are basically asking if a miracle is possible. I think it is, becasue I have seen miracles like thousands of people walking across fire, actually take place before my very eyes. Maybe what you need to do is to observe some miracles take place in order to foster belief and have confidence that the seemingly impossible is in fact possible.

[Ati]

Originally Posted by epetro

so you can agree that I-M approach to living has some practical borders? if so do you agree with existance of obective reality?

Originally Posted by epetro

in quotation are presented three intention objects: wealth, soulmate and lost hand. imho they are not the same, and unlike first two the third couldnot be achieved with intentions, affirmations and other stuff like this. some strong belief divides third from others.

do you really tell someone who lost loved one not to accept reality and find purpose to live further but to change beliefs and prepare to meet that person in good health few days later?

Originally Posted by Frans

Who dares to answer epetro's question:

I somehow lost the message I was just typing.

I'm thinking that there may be a real question about whether to think about something from a theoretical or a practical perspective, or what mixture of the two.

Certainly there have been many things which are possible now, which would have been unheard of at some time earlier (flying or forums, for instance) Before the Wright Bros touched the sky, people thought we couldn't fly, and they thought that throughout many trials when W & O kept hitting the ground. Ten years ago, could we be doing this? Yes, I believe there's little reason to think we won't be able to "regrow" limbs one day, with the technological research going on now.

However, for someone who loses a hand on November 23, 2006, this is not immediately encouraging. That person, I believe, needs something else. Enter SamBeaven and others' thinking about the impact of insisting on a particular "how". Perhaps for the person who lost a hand, getting over a feeling of shock and hopelessness is one of the very first thing needed. Perhaps a plan for, say a marriage or a career looks in danger.

When you think about how people handle various things, it's really amazing. I know someone who lost both arms above the shoulder when he was a kid, in an explosion. This fellow, now in his 40's, has two mechanical arms and he does everything. On hot days he just wears the metal. On cooler days he has the whole gear on with a jacket, etc. I take care of his dad and on at least one occasion, without a moment's hesitation, I just reached out to shake his hand at the end of a visit and, well we shook hands, with sort of a lopsided grin on both our faces as we both realized what had just happened. So, how would we even know what an individual person would need after such a life altering event? Some of what they'd want or need would probably have to wait for advances in technology. Some, possibly, unbelievably more important things may well be possible, but take a huge amount of intention-manifestation practice to accomplish.

Does this make sense to anyone?

PS I'm not clear on subjective vs. objective reality. I think of that much more metaphorically than it is often talked about. That is, I think everyone has their own inner world, perceptions of themselves, others and the world they live in. That seems a good description of subjective reality. If everyone has a subjective reality like that, then I can't say that they don't exist except in my own mind. I guess, in answer to one question posted here, I'd have to believe in both and without either reality cancelling out any other reality. That makes the most sense to me. That can be challenging enough, no?

All best,

Ati

[Valeria]

Why not manifest a new left hand?

After all, a woman in France manifested a new face.

Or does it only "count" when it happens outside of the technology we have available right now?

What I'm really getting at here is that miracles can and do happen daily. And, as previous posters have mentioned, it has to do with the level of your belief.

The thing about it, though, is that only a rare individual would be able to completely grow a new hand, with no technological help...but such an individual, one with consciousness that elevated, would not likely have lost the hand to begin with. His intuitive senses would have been strong enough to keep him out of dangerous situations.

Unless of course, he wanted to lose it to serve some purpose. To demonstrate to the masses, for example.

Anyway, I digress. The point I wanted to make is that the LOA works. Every time. Without fail. But it operates through the path of least resistance.

The biggest problems occur, I think, when we try to manifest beyond our beliefs...in such cases, I think we do that to try to prove that the law doesn't work, or to sabotage ourselves, or perhaps we're masochistic.

Now, I'm not talking about deliberating learning to stretch beyond our boundaries...I'm referring more to people who insist on principle, rather than practice. Those people who insist on avoiding medical treatment for their children because their children "should" be able to heal themselves by prayer alone. I think it's wiser to face reality -- look it square in the face and work from there. And if prayer alone isn't working, then it may not be the best time to insist on prayer alone.

You know, go ahead and take the Tylenol for the headache when it doesn't seem to be going away by other means. Then figure out how to avoid the headache in the first place.

- v

[Acting Like Godot]

I'll share a story with you, about a little boy. He was about eight years old when he manifested a powerful intention to travel to the moon. He even told his parents about it. Of course this was utterly ridiculous because this was way back in the 1930s and the word "astronaut" didn't even exist yet.

Because of those kinds of difficulties, the little boy's intention took a long time to manifest into reality. In fact, it took about 30 years. Neil Armstrong was almost 40 years when he finally stepped on the moon.

The universe must have had a really tough time organising this one, for little Neil.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Valeria

Anyway, I digress. The point I wanted to make is that the LOA works. Every time. Without fail. But it operates through the path of least resistance.

The biggest problems occur, I think, when we try to manifest beyond our beliefs...in such cases, I think we do that to try to prove that the law doesn't work, or to sabotage ourselves, or perhaps we're masochistic.

Now, I'm not talking about deliberating learning to stretch beyond our boundaries...I'm referring more to people who insist on principle, rather than practice. Those people who insist on avoiding medical treatment for their children because their children "should" be able to heal themselves by prayer alone. I think it's wiser to face reality -- look it square in the face and work from there. And if prayer alone isn't working, then it may not be the best time to insist on prayer alone.

That is a very important point. It also reminds me of an old joke.

A man lives in a house in a valley. It starts to rain heavily. He turns on the radio and hears a weather warning that people must evacuate the valley immediately. But he refuses to leave, saying, "God will protect me."

His neighbours drive past his house and they say, "Come along in our car, we need to leave the valley now." But he refuses to leave, saying, "God will protect me." Meanwhile the flood starts to rise.

Later the flood gets really bad and his furniture starts floating around. A police boat comes along and the policeman says, "Hurry, we need to get you out of this place." But he refuses to leave, saying, "God will protect me." The policeman is unable to persuade him.

Later the flood gets so bad that the man is forced to climb onto his roof. A rescue helicopter comes along to rescue him, but once again the man refuses to leave, saying "God will protect me."

He drowns. He goes to Heaven and asks, "God, why didn't You protect me?"

God sighs and replies, "I sent a radio message, your neighbours, a police boat and a rescue helicopter - and you still wouldn't leave. I ran out of further ideas to save you."

===

If your children are sick, your intention is probably for them to be cured. That is why the universe has manifested doctors, hospitals and medicines into your reality. Please do the sensible thing.

[wolfgang]

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein

It seems that taken to the extreme IM could allow one to create anything, that it is only what we believe that makes it impossible to regenerate a hand, for example. That what our senses are attached to is all an illusion but somehow a very stable illusion based on that we are constantly reminding ourselves to believe in this Maya by being attached to what we see, feel, etc... To be so completely enlightened would be to not believe anything, it seems, that way nothing would hinder creating more of this illusion. But, to be completely enlightened I wonder if there would be a identity like we know it.

[Valeria]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

That is a very important point. It also reminds me of an old joke.

A man lives in a house in a valley. It starts to rain heavily. He turns on the radio and hears a weather warning that people must evacuate the valley immediately. But he refuses to leave, saying, "God will protect me."

His neighbours drive past his house and they say, "Come along in our car, we need to leave the valley now." But he refuses to leave, saying, "God will protect me." Meanwhile the flood starts to rise.

Later the flood gets really bad and his furniture starts floating around. A police boat comes along and the policeman says, "Hurry, we need to get you out of this place." But he refuses to leave, saying, "God will protect me." The policeman is unable to persuade him.

Later the flood gets so bad that the man is forced to climb onto his roof. A rescue helicopter comes along to rescue him, but once again the man refuses to leave, saying "God will protect me."

He drowns. He goes to Heaven and asks, "God, why didn't You protect me?"

God sighs and replies, "I sent a radio message, your neighbours, a police boat and a rescue helicopter - and you still wouldn't leave. I ran out of further ideas to save you."

===

If your children are sick, your intention is probably for them to be cured. That is why the universe has manifested doctors, hospitals and medicines into your reality. Please do the sensible thing.

Thanks for telling that joke -- I love that joke and I've often used it to illustrate a couple of points:

first, that God works through people;

second, that we need to take action on what we want (not just think about it or meditate on it..although those are very good things);

and third, that we should be very wary of limiting God. Who are we to say that God has to manifest in a certain, narrow way? Maybe God (or the Universe, or the Universal Designer, or...or...or) wants to give us the thing we've asked for in a slightly different form, one that better suits our needs at the time.

And often God gives us a temporary, placeholder situation to let us know that he/It is working on our case...sort of like when the waiter brings you an appetizer while you're waiting for your main course. The Universe is saying, I haven't forgotten you, your desired thing is on its way, have some bruschetta while you wait.

In this case, it could be a prosthetic hand.

Just one way of looking at it.

- v

[stormpsyche]

Ever heard of mirror therapy?

It is where you put a mirror where your left hand should be. Face the mirror towards your right hand. Look in the mirror while you move your right hand. You will see what looks like your left hand in the mirror. It is supposed to be good for people who have lost limbs. Try it.

Then do some research and try to find someone who makes prosthetic hands.

[moonrambler]

Please note this is a very old thread

[ChrisGinsburg]

I would have to say that yes, you will almost certainly not regrow a limb. First because you will never be able to reach a point where you 100% believe you can. Secondly, you can not use manifestation to turn back time. Your true intention in the matter would be to reverse something that has happened to you in the past instead of moving on with the future. It would be born out of doubt and inadequacy in your current situation which only breeds more doubt and inadequacy.