Mi frien Mike is in a hospital after a manifesting cabin in NC.....

[Floridagal]

I got involved in LOA around 2005 or so and have launched my first manifestation project about 1 year go…The majority of my friends have never interested in this subject. Guess what Mike my established friend from college with whom I was in touch on a regular basis suddenly became off radar…..His spouse (I met her briefly while they were just dating) said that they always wanted to have that cabin in Smoky mountains. And they couldn’t afford the second mortgage. Mike has never mentioned it to me and I am not sure about the cabin…

Jan was crying on the phone he is in a mental hospital. He attended a seminar in March 2007 in OH they have moved there when I moved to FL on manifesting. He practiced their dreams. He wanted to manifest the cabin. He was clear with his intend he loves Jan, he trusted her and just was manifesting it.

Jan was crying on the phone. Apparently, he got the clear idea that some folks manifest by a specific date e.g. birthday, end of a year he did 5 year anniversary with Jan.. It was like he has learnt that he whatever can manifest you can get it. (it must be specific and no harm to others) He believed it after the seminar and they both wanted that cabin in NC by the anniversary. I personnaly have heard it as well...

Litearly the days after the anniversary He didn’t get it and was hospitalized to a mental unit. HE WAS RUNING on POSITIVE And Jan is way too upset…

I LOVE MIKE AS A FRIEND, I HAVE MET HIM ON 11TH YEAR OF COLLEGE. HE WAS DERMINED TO BECOME A DOC AND HE DID IT A YEAR LATER.

Mia Culpa mia maxima culpa (lat.) is not the case.....

I DO NOT WRTE GOOD ENGLISH BECAUSE I AM EUROPEAN AS LONG AS I KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH A SCALPEL AND READ LATIN IT IS O.K.




Yes a came to depression becaue LOA and in my case it was NOt a cabin in NC. If I were off with LOA MIke became a strong similar example....

I will keep you posted on his progerss...

[Acting Like Godot]

I take it back. You ARE very powerful at using the LOA.

Look at me, I use the LOA all the time and never meet anybody who got themselves mentally ill / depressed etc, through using it. But you, you seem to be manifesting them all around you quite effortlessl.

[Floridagal]

To Mr. Acting like god. I do appreciate your perspective...
I would giuess that the majority of people do NOT practice it. I also have a very limited knowledge of them. It is a personal matter and some folks may not feel o.k. to share it...



Mike is a friend from my Doctoral progarm . He is in OH. He is NOT my close friend. I am NOT thinking about him much. I know he loves Jan and he is a Doc and he manifested a cabin in NC......


Mike has protected my butt because I was NOT aware how to do forced ranking analysys for SPSS 12.0 program. Now we have 15.o on the market but anythings in tems of force ranking here please forgive me for my ignorance. He had proved his knowledge.It is a smallworld. I work with Dr. C. in next office, He has moved to OH to FL in august and has been working with MIke for a while...

Good news I was off depression back on summer... I had to do intensive therapy and meds. I still see my therapist 2 times a month. But we are doing so much better.

I wish it for Mike he was so funny and actually really smater than I am. I have neve told him about manifestation as I never did with most of friends, The knowledge on his troublels cam from his spouse.......

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

I take it back. You ARE very powerful at using the LOA.

Look at me, I use the LOA all the time and never meet anybody who got themselves mentally ill / depressed etc, through using it. But you, you seem to be manifesting them all around you quite effortlessl.

It seems to me the hardest thing to see is ourselves, and what we continuously are doing... don't you think?


Floridagal,
I have an idea for you to try... I want you to post a new thread and tell me about all the good things that are going on in your life. Take some time to think about it, explain to me in detail the things that are uplifting to you...

Remove your attention from mental illness and all your other drama and tell me 20 of the greatest things or moments in your life... Can you do that for me...?

[sunj]

Originally Posted by Floridagal

To Mr. Acting like god. I do appreciate your perspective...

Hahahhahahaha, I couldn't resist. Read the first 5 words. LOL.

[RT Wolf]

You know, she does have a point. Perhaps we should all just accept her as she is instead of trying to change her or convince her to do things differently or what have you. Stop resisting.

[cylon]

Good point RT. WE attract everything.

[Acting Like Godot]

It's true. In very recent days, I've had two quite negative events occur in my life (as those who read my blog will know). I think I may have attracted Floridagal as a reminder to myself, on how NOT to respond to these two negative events.

Like, "DON'T go crazy over these things. Take them in your stride."

[Lil Chris]

I mostly agree with everyone... But, my point was how or what is the mechanism for this attraction. Is it where the focus is, the attention is, perhaps what we talk about, what we imagine, what we feel, what we think etc... maybe it's everything combined or bits and peices.

RT,
To stop resisting to me would be letting go of the attention/focus on the situation (instead focus on something else) you're not necessarily resisting by shifting your focus to something more interesting, as one slowly lets the undesirable escape from their focus to the point it doesn't bother you anymore, is something really an issue if it doesn't bother you... Does something exist if your not thinking about it...? Is there a threshold on the amount of attention/focus/interest required for something to manifest or to evaporate from your reality...?

[Lil Chris]

Perhaps I'm wrong by thinking floridagal needs or even wants my assistance or my thoughts on the matter...

Personally, I keep coming back to LOA is always working... The key is to see/understand how I'm working it...

[cylon]

I think we should see Florida as getting a grip on what is happening in her life and finding joy and growing from her experience. I have had severe depression in the past, I have been afraid of the LOA and I have had the feeling I'm going insane from this new worldview--but it passes. Hopefully it will pass for her.

The fact that she's posting shows she is wanting to feel better and looking for ways to feel better.

[Bliss Sage]

Originally Posted by Floridagal

I would giuess that the majority of people do NOT practice it.

Floridagal, I don't think you have understood the LoA properly either. If you understand it and believe it, you know that one cannot "practice" the LoA, you can work with it. According to what I have understood, and I haven't gotten it to work for me yet either, the LoA works all the time, as a matter of its existence, like the law of gravity never stops "working." So, the LoA will bring misery or a mental hospital instead of a cabin...or a messy, miserable painful relationship...it's the LoA too, LoA does not just bring good stuff, like Santa Claus.

I haven't read all of your posts, but I can feel a lot of desperation and despair in you and in your friend Mike, as you write about him. Additionally, both his and your responses to not getting what you wanted are proof positive, to me, that you have not been detached and they say you must be detached in order for the LoA to work for you and not against you.

Lil Chris provided an excellent excerpt from a book that describes the Law of Detachment in clear detail and if you want, you can read it and work on applying it so that you can get the LoA to work for you, which is what I am doing, because I have this problem also, or you can stay stuck in your rut and keep posting threads like this.

Here is the link to Lil Chris' post about the Law of Detachment:

hopeless....

The last thing I want to say is that, in my opinion, people who are allegedly teaching others how to use the LoA seem to be awfully irresponsible in it, because even if I reflect on The Secret, nobody ever said anything about detachment in that movie, but quite the contrary, it is always emphasized how much you have to focus and dwell on what you want and the feelings of having it now - nobody explains the Law of Detachment and "Oh yeah, by the way, while desperately wanting what you want, you also have to be detached from it" ... or else you might end up in a mental hospital... In the end, when you ask many different people for help, you have what looks like a load of contradicting and conflicting instructions on how to use the LoA.

[Floridagal]

The post is about Mike. I was not aware of his LOA agenda and dreams about the cabin. It is a personal info. I am sure he will be fine. But not sure how long will it take.

It is a part of human nature share comfortably positive experiences. It is like new diet pill. If it works people say great stories and exited but there are those for whom it fails and no commercials or ads are going to include those negative testomonies. That is why you may not really see people who were not successful in LOA because they simly not willing to share it.

I totally agree with detachment and someone on here asked how to detach and I know I have posted my answer. And yes I ahve read the copy of the article that was posted here. It is the same concept as you are suppose to utilize in psychic readings No dwelling basically.


With Mike I do NOT the details at this point.


My 2 cents in here are

Yes you must believe in a positive outcome and have faith when you do LOA
Yes the detachment is important and the Secret is not prividing enough info on this concept but there are some other sources of reference and in my case a concept of letting it go was presented to me long before LOA
Yes you must be postive while you are doing it
Yes ego may be a factor but I would guess all those people who manifested money, cars and etc definitely has manifested things that were for their ego but still got it.
Yes the action should be taken
Yes you can't be sceptical

The above menitioned reasons are usually used by individuals to explain the failure of a specific manifesting project by another individual. I can NOT attribute those reasons to my manifesting process. It would be easy if I could. I would correct an error and will do it again. I NEED to understand why it was not working for me when everyone around are so exited about it (except a small percentage of people)

LOA can say that you manifest a bunch of different stuff and it will come in your life. The Secter never has told you if you want a new car you may manifest it or not, if you want a boat it can be here or by the way may not. There is NO a failure option, so to speak. I am confident that the cabin in NC can be manifested by an anniversary!!!!!!!!! It what the Secret is pretty much about.

Some people do apply LOA to things are VERY important for them. As a result when they fail they can get all posiible side effects. I know many can not care about a cabin in NC and do not understand why it so upsetting for someone. But I guess when you feel it is already here and visualize and it is an issue of a personal importance you may get very upset at the end.

If it were all about ego what about individuals who get extra cash, cars, big houses. And someone on here attribute it to the fact that if it is about ego it is not good and will NOT work. But again there a bunch of examples on here.

THis is a theoretical example...

E.G. you have a child in high school and you love him dearly. The kid is very bright and does very well in school and wants to go to Ivy league college. You do all reasearch, correspondance and than manifest the admission letter. You feel very positive and visualize a little family celebration and happiness of your kid when the admission letter hits a mail box. You feel calm and peacful. There are deadlines of course but you know LOA is working. Well and let's say you get rejection letters. Will you be upset, dissapointed? Very much possible. Rejection letters will make you upset anyway but after a prolonged time of manifesting and feeling that it is already here your degree of dissapointment may be much more severe...

You can't do the whole proccess with an attitude may it will work. You know it will work!!!!!!!!!


The more research you initially have done, the more you have learnt to detach (it is actually a very difficult process), the more you worked on raising your vibes (the easiest way to do so it find a person who will do an energy work on you), the more you have looked guidance from LOA experts the beginning of your LOA journey and etc the stronger your degree of dissapointment maybe if the project not going to work.

[Bliss Sage]

Originally Posted by Floridagal

The post is about Mike.


I totally agree with detachment and someone on here asked how to detach and I know I have posted my answer. And yes I ahve read the copy of the article that was posted here. It is the same concept as you are suppose to utilize in psychic readings No dwelling basically.



My 2 cents in here are

Yes you must believe in a positive outcome and have faith when you do LOA
Yes the detachment is important and the Secret is not prividing enough info on this concept but there are some other sources of reference and in my case a concept of letting it go was presented to me long before LOA
Yes you must be postive while you are doing it
Yes ego may be a factor but I would guess all those people who manifested money, cars and etc definitely has manifested things that were for their ego but still got it.
Yes the action should be taken
Yes you can't be sceptical

The above menitioned reasons are usually used by individuals to explain the failure of a specific manifesting project by another individual. I can NOT attribute those reasons to my manifesting process.

Well, I am offering the reason I believe that the LoA did not work for Mike, you or yet for me. I think you are saying you were detached, but I feel certain that if a person falls into severe depression and even ends up in a mental hospital when they haven't gotten what they were intending, it would be true to say they were not detached from what they were intending.

I was not able to grasp the idea of wanting something and then not caring about getting it/being detached from it, but I think I get it better now since yesterday when I read what Lil Chris posted. Now I am just trying to apply it so that I can manifest things like Acting Like Godot and impaul99 do.

There are obviously people who get this and then a lot who just don't. I'm just trying to get it. And I know what it's like to try to intend and manifest something and have it not come - but I specifically had not put a deadline on what I wanted before, as that way I had all the freedom and time and not that lingering deadline and fear that it won't come by that time. I have put deadlines recently and am right now...

I am trying to manifest something before January and I am trying to do it with the Law of Detachment, because in October I had a miserable experience of manifesting something I wanted by a specific date - I did manifest it by that date, but the process I had to go through to get it nearly killed me - I guess because I was not detached and I had an idea of how it had to happen and I forced it - I forced a solution to my problem, which I'm not supposed to do according to the Law of Detachment.

Btw, Lil Chris, if you are reading this: thanks for posting that

[Floridagal]

I actually do believe in a Law of detachment. Wike Mike I am not about the details I can talk only for myself here. In a simple way as far as I was taught is that you believe in an outcome and know the Universe is working on that. You do not need to question HER actions and check on progress all the time. If you manifest something by a specific date and start the process let's say 3 months before the date. It doesn't matter taht you do not see a clear physical progress. You may already have beta reflection and most likely definitely aplha, strong sinchronicities. You basically know that the Universe os working on that.

The catch here is that of course you have faith.

On other words when you bring your car for an oil change. You do not watch every move they do. But you know they are going to change the oil let's say in 20 min. So in this example your objective is clear, you are worring about an outcome because those guys know how to change oil. You know it is in 20 min. You took action by bringing your car to a station, You do not sceptical and doubt that they will change the oil. You feel relaxed about the process. I would say definitely in this case you would detached.

I am not sure Mike I haven't talked to him yet but in my case I was pretty much was following this oil-change example. Of course if they fail to change the oil you may go to another shop may be a little upset, frustrated and etc.


But when you manifest for a prolonged time something it may not always bring just to a simple degree of dissapointment.
But I do absolutely believe that the detachment is very important.