How to maintain high vibrations despite of toxic environment?

[Rose of Cairo]

Hi all, my new question is how to keep on vibrating high when the persons around you vibrate low?

For some reasons I'm forced to stay with my family a few weeks. They're vibrating very low all of them. They're very very nice people and I love them very much. Unfortunately they're focusing on negative things a lot, ranting and complaining all day long, they're full of fear and anger and have a scarcity mindset. I tried to talk with them about it but it was useless, they laugh at esoteric things like vibrations. They're also angry that I refuse to listen to the news every day or to talk about negative things. For them it's a duty to aknowledge reality as it is and being a coward not to do so. I also tried to talk about positive topics, but no matter what I talk about, they'll find a way to get angry about something, point out some injustice or complain...

I know why I put a thousand km between them and me... but now I have to deal with them and I feel I'm not strong enough. I'm totally exhausted, I need more and more sleep, and I gained LOTS OF weight. I feel a very strong need to eat all the time, as if I had not enough energy I meditate, clean my chakras, deliberately focus on positive things and choose positive thougths, use the methods of Ask and it is Given and EFT... but I have to do all that for 24 hours a day to stay in a just acceptable state. I feel that it's getting worse and worse every day.

Help!!!

Do you know a way to get more energy? Or to keep my vibrations high?

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Hi all, my new question is how to keep on vibrating high when the persons around you vibrate low?

For some reasons I'm forced to stay with my family a few weeks. They're vibrating very low all of them. They're very very nice people and I love them very much. Unfortunately they're focusing on negative things a lot, ranting and complaining all day long, they're full of fear and anger and have a scarcity mindset. I tried to talk with them about it but it was useless, they laugh at esoteric things like vibrations. They're also angry that I refuse to listen to the news every day or to talk about negative things. For them it's a duty to aknowledge reality as it is and being a coward not to do so. I also tried to talk about positive topics, but no matter what I talk about, they'll find a way to get angry about something, point out some injustice or complain...

I know why I put a thousand km between them and me... but now I have to deal with them and I feel I'm not strong enough. I'm totally exhausted, I need more and more sleep, and I gained LOTS OF weight. I feel a very strong need to eat all the time, as if I had not enough energy I meditate, clean my chakras, deliberately focus on positive things and choose positive thougths, use the methods of Ask and it is Given and EFT... but I have to do all that for 24 hours a day to stay in a just acceptable state. I feel that it's getting worse and worse every day.

Help!!!

Do you know a way to get more energy? Or to keep my vibrations high?

Some things that have worked for me in the past:

(1) Realise your source of energy comes from "Source", whatever name it goes by for you. Visualize your stream of energy coming to you as a stream from the ground, from the positive energy channeled by mother earth. As long as your feet are touching the ground, you have access to the source of infinite energy. Don't think the energy comes from any specific activity like reading a book or doing meditation or EFT only. Those are great, but become aware that the source of the energy is always available to you 24hours a day. Think of it this way. If you were cut off from the source of the energy, your heart would stop beating. So, if you're alive, you have access to the energy.

(2) Don't try to teach or convert people to this way of positive thinking you are just learning. You are probably not strong enough to take on a whole group of people. Perhaps one person, alone, in the right environment, you may be able to shower them with positive energy for long enough for them to want to pursue this path. A whole group at this point for you, highly unlikely.

You do not owe anyone any explanation why you don't watch the news, or why you are being positive. It's none of their business. If they say "What do you mean I don't watch the news?" Just say "I don't watch it.", and if they say "Why not?" just say "I just don't wach it." and if they say "Yeah, but why?" , just say "I don't know, I just prefer not to watch it?" and if they say "Yeah, but why don't you prefer to watch it?" just say "I don't know, I'm crazy like that I guess." and if they say "Why are you crazy like that?" just say "Anyone for milk a cookies?"

I sense that the root of your problem is trying to explain your new behaviour in a way your family and friends will understand. It's too early for that right now. Just focus on becoming a positive person, not on converting everyone to "Positivity" at this time.

(3) VIsualize a protective bubble around you in your mind. Then have saying where you can put the bubble up. For me, I visualize it and say "Shields UP!", kind of like in Star Trek. I tell my mind that when my shield is UP it doesn't eminate positive energy past the shield which surrounds my body, and it also doesn't allow negative energy to come inside.

This way, when you have your shield up, the "Negatrons" can't sense your positive energy and it doesn't make them want to attack you. See, the more positive you are, and the more negative they are, the greater the difference in energy between you two, and energy wants to from from negative to positive. Kind of like lightning. It's like the energy wants to discharge itself. People can feel this and it pisses them off at this stage of their development. They feel tension and they want to release it. If you put up your shield, it will allow you to stay positive, while not eminating positive energy out by default. Of course you can still say positive things and send positive energy at specific times whenever you want, but it simply wont' be eminating by default just by being in the same room as people.

I used to not be able to walk into a starbucks with my wife when she got her coffee. It seems like all the Ego's gather in that place. I learned this technique, put up my shield and went in. IT was so bizarre, it was almost like I was invisible. Nobody wanted to discharge their negative energy off me, they just basically ignored me. It's almost like a Romulan cloaking device.

(4) When the time is right, when you are strong enough and you have evolved to the point in your journey where your example is the best teaching lesson, they MAY begin to listen to you a bit. For now, forget about it. They'll just bring you down.

For example, just after I almost went bankrupt I got into personal development very heavily and began transforming myself. I would tell people about all this great positive stuff I was learning and all I would get bak was "Uhuh, go get a job." and negative crap like that. Then I stopped trying to convince anyone. I just went out and became successful for myself. Then all of a sudden, people wanted to listen.

Hope these help!

[Angela]

Hey, Rose! Good for you for taking steps (hard ones!) towards being in love with your life. I really acknowledge you for doing what you know is right in getting where you want to be.

Have you read the newest Abraham/Hicks book, The Astonishing Power of Emotions? It contains a lot of stuff about feeling good regardless of what other people are doing. Maybe it would be helpful to you now.

Lots of love,
Angela

[cylon]

Originally Posted by impaul99

I used to not be able to walk into a starbucks with my wife when she got her coffee. It seems like all the Ego's gather in that place. I learned this technique, put up my shield and went in. IT was so bizarre, it was almost like I was invisible. Nobody wanted to discharge their negative energy off me, they just basically ignored me. It's almost like a Romulan cloaking device.

Lol. I get the same vibe sometimes. Next time I'm in a situation where I am concerned about a vibe, I will say "sheilds up, engage".

But aren't we ATTRACTING those people into our lives? Even the ego pod people?

[4Mind4Life]

It is nice that you tried to explain this to them, but don't make it seem like you are pushing it on them. Let them find their own path. Keep being yourself, stay strong and be assertive. I think it is awesome that you refuse to talk negative. Don't let your family dictate your reality. I think that dealing with and turning negativity to positivity is a character building experience. Don't dread the experience, view it as a challenge. BTW, no one is "forced" to stay with their family for a few weeks. You have other options.

GOOD LUCK, KEEP LOVING, & STAY STRONG.

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Hi all, my new question is how to keep on vibrating high when the persons around you vibrate low?

For some reasons I'm forced to stay with my family a few weeks. They're vibrating very low all of them. They're very very nice people and I love them very much. Unfortunately they're focusing on negative things a lot, ranting and complaining all day long, they're full of fear and anger and have a scarcity mindset. I tried to talk with them about it but it was useless, they laugh at esoteric things like vibrations. They're also angry that I refuse to listen to the news every day or to talk about negative things. For them it's a duty to aknowledge reality as it is and being a coward not to do so. I also tried to talk about positive topics, but no matter what I talk about, they'll find a way to get angry about something, point out some injustice or complain...

I know why I put a thousand km between them and me... but now I have to deal with them and I feel I'm not strong enough. I'm totally exhausted, I need more and more sleep, and I gained LOTS OF weight. I feel a very strong need to eat all the time, as if I had not enough energy I meditate, clean my chakras, deliberately focus on positive things and choose positive thougths, use the methods of Ask and it is Given and EFT... but I have to do all that for 24 hours a day to stay in a just acceptable state. I feel that it's getting worse and worse every day.

Help!!!

Do you know a way to get more energy? Or to keep my vibrations high?

[mej023]

Do u Avoid Negative People??

[uberinquisitive]

Right now, you're not ready to deal with them. Why force yourself? Try to stay out as much as possible. Avoid them, politely of course. Hang out at the local bookstore or coffeeshop. Hang out with new friends. Just make sure you're not home.

[cylon]

This thread resonates with me. Of course I will be at the point that I won't have any social life at all (at least in this moment that's all I can see). But negative people are negative people. I just want to attract postive, outgoing, confident, warm people into my life. But I look around me and I have attracted psychic vampires into my life instead, because like ALG said in the referenced thread, at one point that's how I was "vibratin'".

I'm changing so much right now, everything is falling away. I hope I can get to the point where I am just allowing, because if I just cut these people out of my life I will literally have nothing to do but sit around by myself.

But lately, that hasn't really bothered me. I'm enjoying my own company more.

And I'm not even that shy, I just don't know "how" to meet new people.... my life has been a routine. Have to break out of it. The desire is very strong though. I'm already sending out new vibrations. They can't not be met in some fashion.

So I can relate to the OP.

[NotesMaeve]

Rose, would it pick you up to get nice email or cards where you're staying? I'd love to be your pen pal just so you have something fun to look forward to each day!

[Rose of Cairo]

Thanks all for your kind words

The reason I'm "forced" to stay here is that like I explained in another thread, one of the cats is ill. He had a renal failure and was dying. I came especially to help him. He's better now, I think (hope) he's saved, but I want to stay till he's completely ok. Of course I could go away, but I don't want to let the cat alone. That's why avoiding to be at home wouldn't make sense. I intentionally spend a lot of time at home, taking care of the cat a lot and doing some energy work with him.

I don't try to "teach" or "convert" my family, good lord, not at all. I did not tell them "look, folks, you're too negative!" It's just that I had to explain things sometimes. Like every evening they listen to the news on the radio while eating. So I had to explain that I would not eat with them in the evenings. They asked why and I told the truth, which is that I don't want to hear about war and murder and listen to them getting angry at some politician every day while eating. That's just more than I can bear. But yeah, you're right. I won't explain anything anymore.

The problem is not their opinion, it's that I get dragged down by their mood. The problem is me. I'm very empathic and feel other people's emotions. That's always the case, not only with my family. So when I have people around me who are stressed, fearful, angry, and upset, I feel their anger, fear, and distress. I know it's not mine, but I really, physically feel it. And it's not pleasant either to hear them talking about corruption, war, torture and rape, pollution, injustice and stupid people twenty times a day. I know some techniques to get rid of negative emotions, but nonetheless, they're in such a mood all the time, and that's draining, really. I have to isolate myself and do these techniques, then I'm fine again, come back, and get dragged down again...

I'll read the newest Abraham Hicks book and also visualize infinite Source energy, and a big protective shield. Great ideas

[Bene]

Have you tried closing your chakras and shielding? Those can maybe stop negative vibes from getting into your body/aura in the first place.

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by Bene

Have you tried closing your chakras and shielding?

No, I haven't. I clean them, but don't close them. The reason is the cat. I thought they need to be open if I want to communicate with him and give him some energy.

But you're right, I'll do that, if there's no other way.

thanks Bene

[impaul99]

This may help. It's a summary of 5 things I do to deal with Negative people when I'm "forced" to be in their presence.

How to Stay Positive Around Negative People | Inspired Money Maker - How To Make Money Doing What You Love

[cylon]

Thanks Paul, I was reading your blog earlier today and the part where you mentioned changing your routine, I'm trying. I took a different route home today, and ate at a different time. I think I'm going to do as many things differently as I can every day and just make a game out of it. I feel like I need to disorient myself a little. Seems like the right thing to do.

[jeff3]

Maybe the negative people are still there because you still resonate with them. One of the most obvious signs of personal change is that people move into and out of your life to match you and when you do encounter oppositional people they are hardly noticed. Also, if you continue to put yourself in places with people who do not match you, you will be uncomfortable. A prime example is a support group I was a member of for several years, at first I felt right at home but as I expanded my spiritual pursuits and practices beyond what they embraced as "correct" I felt less and less a part of the group. Finally, I went to a new years eve party and all the same people I had previously felt connected to seemed so distant and different that I walked out and have never been back, I knew that it was over. The real interesting (but understandable) thing that happened after that is, these same people that I previously ran into almost daily just disappeared out of my life. There are 2 out of probably 45-50 people that I still talk to out of that group and it is because we have other similar interest + I think they are interested in severing ties with that support group too.


Sorry so long, just trying to make the point that people are in our lives for a reason, if you are uncomfortable with someone who is a constant in your life a little 'discovery' may help point out why. Sometimes I feel the doubters in my life are there as a reflection of my own doubts.

[Mags]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Like every evening they listen to the news on the radio while eating. So I had to explain that I would not eat with them in the evenings. They asked why and I told the truth, which is that I don't want to hear about war and murder and listen to them getting angry at some politician every day while eating. That's just more than I can bear.

I also don't watch/listen to the news very much when I'm in my own home and have control over what I allow into my experience.

But, when I'm in a place where the news is on (e.g. someone else's home), what I've found works for me is to simply say to myself "gosh, how interesting - let's see what experiences others have created for themselves". In that way, I am allowing (a la Abe-Hicks) others' creations to exist, while not taking them on board myself. I stay detached rather than getting sucked in.

[Spiritual]

This is a very common problem with people just getting into manifestation.

Let's all first drop the idea of "high vibrating and low vibrating", it's an ego thing and isn't helping you. Everyone is vibrating high (so that would make it "normal"). But everyone is vibrating "high" on diffirent subjects, believes, ideas, etc etc.

So you are trying to get yourself vibrate "high" on wealth, they are vibrating "high" on lack. Makes sense? So when you as a wealth vibration want to connect to someone who is on the lack vibration, you have to "travel" all the way to the other side of the spectrum to be able to interact. For some this transition is easy, some lose themselves while doing it, and some just can't be bothered to try.

You talk about cleaning chakra's and such, I don't really find these things profound or anything special for me personally, but if you really feel the change after a cleansing, I'm even a bit jealous. So these people are getting "into" you. Well I wonder, why do you allow them? The only way others can get "into" you is by allowing their believes and ways of being to affect your way of being.

Ofcourse it's very human to be affected by others, don't get me wrong. But like others before me said, don't focus your energy on making them understand what you're doing. It's like trying to move an elephant who doesn't want to be moved, makes no sense whatsoever.

EVERYTHING of allowing or the letting go of your attachment to manifestation, Hicks/The Secret/Etc. talk about means, letting EVERYONE be as they want to be. There is no need for change, just let everyone be and enjoy yourself while you decide what YOU want.

What I like to do (but believe me it's harder than it seems) is to use every "bad" situation as "contrast". Everything in life is dualistic, the good/bad. So what you don't like right now is people being ignorant and whiny, focused on the lack. So most importantly what DO you want? You want happy, shiny people with major wealth in your life!

So focus on that, "I have all these amazing, happy and wealthy people in my life!".

Don't be so bothered by "energylevels" or "vibrations", that's just the novice stuff of Hicks and The Secret (which is all cool). But focus on feeling good first, start to know for yourself what you DO want and how YOU want to live your life. And when you feel good you aren't bothered by low energy or vibrations, you are just to busy having fun!

Good luck, you're the best and you know it!

[dancer]

No advice, but I send you lots of SUPPORT. Very glad your cat is recoving.

Love

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by cylon

Thanks Paul, I was reading your blog earlier today and the part where you mentioned changing your routine, I'm trying. I took a different route home today, and ate at a different time. I think I'm going to do as many things differently as I can every day and just make a game out of it. I feel like I need to disorient myself a little. Seems like the right thing to do.

While you're doing things differently, recognize that while your behaviour has changed, or your pattern of behaviour has changed, you remain the same. Changing your behaviour doesn't make you any less you.

Once you play around with that for a bit, try it out internally by changing around some of your beliefs. For example, if you defend a meat-eating diet, try looking into the benefits of a vegetarian diet. Or, if you believe that baseball is the best sport in the world, and despise basketball, try changing your beliefs on that and start watching basketball for a while.

The concept will expand your awareness if you start to play with the maleable nature of our Ego selves. Think of it almost like you're an actor playing a part. Once you internally experience that you are not your beliefs, things will be much easier for you to change.

To start with, changing your route home is a good starting point

[cylon]

Cool, I had the thought "the point of this is that no matter what I'm doing, where I am, or who I'm with, I am the same person.... who I am is not identified by any outward circumstance". Before I thought I was defined by my job or friends/etc.

Which is what you're saying, so I must have attracted the right game/method to try.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by jeff3

Sorry so long, just trying to make the point that people are in our lives for a reason, if you are uncomfortable with someone who is a constant in your life a little 'discovery' may help point out why. Sometimes I feel the doubters in my life are there as a reflection of my own doubts.

Jeff3, I totally agree with you that it's valuable to look at what we're reflecting when we find yourself bugged by someone! And that sometimes it takes a little detective work to figure out what those people are being, and showing us that we're being, too. You can't see it if you don't have it.

Sometimes they make it easy for us: "You're being defensive." "I am not!" But more often it takes some attention; when it's family, the habitual ways of being can be so deeply ingrained you need a truffle pig to find 'em. Plus, when someone bugs us, we're so adamant that the person is irritating us because they're so different from us, that we completely overlook the real reason: that person is our mirror.

Rose, do you think that may be true in this case? That what irritates you most about how your family is being is something that you would like to address in your own self?

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Angela

...when someone bugs us, we're so adamant that the person is irritating us because they're so different from us, that we completely overlook the real reason: that person is our mirror.

That is a tough thing to do but it is true. You are only bothered in others by that which drives you crazy about yourself. And of course no one wants to claim those traits in themselves. But if you can't face them you can't change them. So in a way being irritated is a blessing in disguise, if you choose to look at it that way. But first you have to get over the ego that says "I am better than that".

[torilink]

projection, i love this subject.

I find the things that bug me out about others are those things I reject about myself and try to get rid of by projecting it onto others in my reality.

You don't want to be that type of person and you are trying so much to reject that part of yourself it is being projected into others.

??

another thing is that we always get what we expect and if you arrived with the expectation they were going to drive you crazy, it's little wonder its happening.

[alexinspire]

I think avoid it or defend from it really won't work. It's because when you avoid it, you are already resist or fear about it. That resistance and fear will be sent to the universe and make it even further!

Defending is also the same because you won't defend something if you are not scared and worry about that thing happening.

So, the best way is....

Accept it and let it go.

You can control your thoughts. I can care for you and ask you clean up your room. But it's up to you to think "He is complaining my room is not clean and want me to clean it up. He is so negative." No one can control your thoughts.

You family can be saying something bad about things and people around them, but it's up to you to think they are positive or negative. If you can positive think what they are saying, just listen and let it go. The more you try not to listen, the more hard they will try to tell you.

Practice "Listen and let go". That's a good practice my father do every night before sleep or else he can't sleep (I think he have lots of complain from his business too).

I think this will be helpful!

[Rose of Cairo]

Wow, so much to answer to! ok, let's go...

Originally Posted by jeff3

Maybe the negative people are still there because you still resonate with them.

I absolutely agree with you. When you're not a match for someone anymore, they just disappear. The problem here is that they are my family. If it were some friends of mine, they already would have been kicked out of my life. But I don't want to let my family behind.

Originally Posted by Spiritual

Let's all first drop the idea of "high vibrating and low vibrating", it's an ego thing and isn't helping you.

really? Well I really feel some vibrations, sorry. I don't know if they are vibrations in a physical sense, but it feels like something is vibrating. Of course just saying "high" and "low" is too much of a simplification, I used these words so that everyone would understand what I mean. I know it's a bit more complicated, for instance when someone is scared, I feel very high vibrations around them. But they're not harmonious, they're more like needles or prickles. In this case I would have said "they vibrate low" although they're not vibrating low at all... But you understand what I mean with high and low, that's the most important.

Originally Posted by Spiritual

You talk about cleaning chakra's and such, I don't really find these things profound or anything special for me personally, but if you really feel the change after a cleansing, I'm even a bit jealous.

Please be jealous, I feel a huge change after a cleansing

Originally Posted by Spiritual

So these people are getting "into" you. Well I wonder, why do you allow them? The only way others can get "into" you is by allowing their believes and ways of being to affect your way of being.

Hmmm... I don't know. One reason is that they resonate with a part of me. Another reason is my empathy. I'm not sure whether emotions are only a result of your thoughts. You propagate them around you too, and also can feel them from someone else.

It's not only the bad things that I let into me, the good ones too. When I'm near positive people I can feel that very well too, and feel wonderful. Once I met someone new, and first thing I asked him was which meditation technique he used. He was puzzled and asked me how I did know that?? Well I could feel it, he was so harmonious, I was sure he meditated regularly. His presence alone was enough to lift me up.

On the other hand, I can feel other people's negative emotions too, and they drag me down. I can't watch most movies because of the violence in them. When I go to the vet with my cat, and she's scared, I feel panic and begin to sweat myself. And no, I'm not afraid of the vet When someone is angry, I feel this anger too, a little bit outside of my body. I'm not thinking anything angry, but I get shaking hands and heat in my stomach.

Originally Posted by Spiritual

Don't be so bothered by "energylevels" or "vibrations", that's just the novice stuff of Hicks and The Secret (which is all cool). But focus on feeling good first, start to know for yourself what you DO want and how YOU want to live your life.

I know what I want.
You seem to see "energylevels" or "vibrations" from a very intellectual point of view, without this stuff playing any concrete role in your life. For me however, it's something very concrete and real.

Imagine: when I listen to music that's too loud, I begin to cry, have a nervous breakdown and end up falling on the floor. I guess the bass waves hit me too hard or something like that. I went to a concert three times in my life (with earplugs), and got knocked out every time. Well, emotions are the same for me. It's just as real and concrete as sound. I can feel fear and anger like I feel sound. So living with my family now is like listening to damn loud music all day long, or something like that.

In my childhood I often had nightmares about invisible waves hitting me. That hurts. It's not a physical pain, but it really hurts. When my mother just sits down near me, I feel like a wall of very chaotic waves hitting me. And when they're ranting, I literally feel physically attacked, although they don't even talk to me. Yeah I know all that sounds very weird and strange and esoteric, but I can't explain it better.

Originally Posted by Angela

Rose, do you think that may be true in this case? That what irritates you most about how your family is being is something that you would like to address in your own self?

Yes of course Angela, mirror-lady Their negativity is exactly what I'm working on inside of me. I think if I were totally sovereign, positive, stable and impermeable, their negativity couldn't affect me. I wouldn't mind them being as negative as they want to be then. But I haven't reached that point yet. I was like them and was very unhappy, depressed and ill in the past. I know what I want (be happy, healthy, have healthy relationships and so on), so I've been working very hard on that to become more positive.

I try to forget about all the not-so-useful things they taught me, to develop a positive abundance mindset, to choose empowering thoughts, and so on. I read books, learn and practice a lot. That's my #1 time investment. But all that is still quite unstable and (mostly because of empathy) still hugely depends on my environment, that's why it's difficult for me to stay positive while surrounded by negative people. And of course it bugs me to see what I try so hard to kick out of my life suddenly everywhere around me, and even influencing me and making me negative again! Does this make any sense?

Originally Posted by torilink

another thing is that we always get what we expect and if you arrived with the expectation they were going to drive you crazy, it's little wonder its happening.

yeah, that's also true... Last time I stayed for four weeks it got worse and worse and I had a complete breakdown after the third week. I admit that this time I thought "oh god that's going to be horrible again..." No wonder that it happened, indeed Thanks for reminding me!

Originally Posted by alexinspire

Practice "Listen and let go".

Thanks Alex, yes, you're right, absolutely. I have a very hard time doing it though. When I get some strong emotions thrown at my face and at the same time are told about some horrible things, listening and letting go is difficult. How to hear in all details about some politic prisonners being tortured or what happened to a young girl who was raped during a war or similar things, and keep enough distance? Even one of Angela's posts about circumcision made me feel like vomiting, screaming and crying. And dear Angela is not a negative person

dancer, thanks for your support

Mags and Paul, thanks for your advice. Now that's a way to keep some distance. I tried it today, it worked I just imagine that it's a costume party, and we're all playing roles. The news are fake, and I'm curious to see what the others will invent. We're just playing some games, like the "judge the neighbours" game, the "rant against politicians" game, the "worry about depressed family members" game, the "repeat once more how horrible the world is" game, the "get angry at some injustice" game, the "curse money and rich people" game... and so on. Requires some creativity to participate.

Something else I became aware of today is that when confronted with negativity, I get tense and stop breathing deeply and regularly. I guess this is an important reason why I'm losing so much energy. I'll watch my breathing.

Thanks all. I hope this thread is useful for someone else too

[Lola]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

You seem to see "energylevels" or "vibrations" from a very intellectual point of view, without this stuff playing any concrete role in your life. For me however, it's something very concrete and real.

Imagine: when I listen to music that's too loud, I begin to cry, have a nervous breakdown and end up falling on the floor. I guess the bass waves hit me too hard or something like that. I went to a concert three times in my life (with earplugs), and got knocked out every time. Well, emotions are the same for me. It's just as real and concrete as sound. I can feel fear and anger like I feel sound. So living with my family now is like listening to damn loud music all day long, or something like that.

Hey Rose - I'm curious - do you feel lightening? Like when it's somewhat close? Not close enough to zap you but during a thunderstorm do you feel the energy of the lightening in your chest? I do. Everyone thinks I'm crazy when I say that. But I can feel it. It makes it hard to swallow for a minute.

And about family - I like your role playing idea! When my mom was here at Thanksgiving (the sweetest criticizer on earth) I kept telling myself, "My real mom will be here soon. This is the stand-in."

[Rose of Cairo]

Lola, I haven't seen any close thunderstorm for ages, so I don't know. But I feel earthquakes You're not crazy

About the role playing, it's not my idea, but impaul99's. I read it on his blog, look here: How To Stay Positive Around Negative People. Very funny idea!

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Lola, I haven't seen any close thunderstorm for ages, so I don't know. But I feel earthquakes You're not crazy

About the role playing, it's not my idea, but impaul99's. I read it on his blog, look here: How To Stay Positive Around Negative People. Very funny idea!

As with almost everything in my brain nowadays, it was all given to me from the +500 books I've read, conversations I've had with coaches and mentors, or from meditation with my guides and such, so it's not really my personal idea either. It's just something I've learned that I wanted to share.

If I remember correctly, I read a similar technique in a book written by Jewel's mom (Jewel the singer). I can't remember the title right now, but it's something to do with Abundance.

[Spiritual]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

really? Well I really feel some vibrations, sorry. I don't know if they are vibrations in a physical sense, but it feels like something is vibrating. Of course just saying "high" and "low" is too much of a simplification, I used these words so that everyone would understand what I mean. I know it's a bit more complicated, for instance when someone is scared, I feel very high vibrations around them. But they're not harmonious, they're more like needles or prickles. In this case I would have said "they vibrate low" although they're not vibrating low at all... But you understand what I mean with high and low, that's the most important.

I never said vibrations don't exist, ofcourse they do, I can see and feel them. Plus it's something physics talks supports aswell. But I was talking about the current trend of "I'm an high vibration person, cause I am spiritual and I can see ghosts, but you are low vibrating cause you don't". If you don't mean this with high/low vibration you talked about, than that's wonderful and my comment wasn't for you.

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Hmmm... I don't know. One reason is that they resonate with a part of me. Another reason is my empathy. I'm not sure whether emotions are only a result of your thoughts. You propagate them around you too, and also can feel them from someone else.

It's not only the bad things that I let into me, the good ones too. When I'm near positive people I can feel that very well too, and feel wonderful. Once I met someone new, and first thing I asked him was which meditation technique he used. He was puzzled and asked me how I did know that?? Well I could feel it, he was so harmonious, I was sure he meditated regularly. His presence alone was enough to lift me up.

On the other hand, I can feel other people's negative emotions too, and they drag me down. I can't watch most movies because of the violence in them. When I go to the vet with my cat, and she's scared, I feel panic and begin to sweat myself. And no, I'm not afraid of the vet When someone is angry, I feel this anger too, a little bit outside of my body. I'm not thinking anything angry, but I get shaking hands and heat in my stomach.

I know what I want.
You seem to see "energylevels" or "vibrations" from a very intellectual point of view, without this stuff playing any concrete role in your life. For me however, it's something very concrete and real.

Not true, I am just as you, sensitive for vibrations, energies and moods of others. Yet I was fortunate enough to get an automated buffer which kept me from getting everyones feelings and physical senses every time.

Imagine: chatting with someone who is at the other side of the world. I'm in a warm summer, he is in the cold winter. I get cold because he is chatting with me, while having his window open...

I can understand it's very concrete and real, like I said I was fortunate enough that I now have a buffer.
But what seems so obvious for me about your story is that you're so focused on your chakra's and opening/cleansing them. I never worry about them, and my way, doesn't have to be your way. But if the work you do on your chakra's influence you that much, don't open them and cleanse them all the time.

I read the advice to close them earlier in this topic, and it makes all the sense of the world to me. If you have such a big sensitivy, chances are high that when you close your chakra's you still keep your sensitivy, but then at a way that gives you an advantage, not pain or grief.

Btw closing doesn't have to mean, shutting them down, it can also be a protection with whatever color you prefer, or maybe another symbol that means protection for you.

[Mags]

Originally Posted by Lola

Hey Rose - I'm curious - do you feel lightening? Like when it's somewhat close? Not close enough to zap you but during a thunderstorm do you feel the energy of the lightening in your chest? I do. Everyone thinks I'm crazy when I say that. But I can feel it. It makes it hard to swallow for a minute.

Oh my word... thunderstorms! Like Rose and you Lola, I'm quite sensitive to the energies of others and also to noise. So thunderstorms really get me - it's a combination of the thunder and lightning for me.