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Old 11-18-2007, 05:18 AM
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Default Why The Law of Attraction is a hoax and your children is gonna suffer

It’s a smart marketing gimmick so they can church out a $34.99 DVD set.

I’m sure the starving people of Africa can use the Law of Attraction to get some food in their stomach. How about people who die from car accidents? I’m sure they wake up in the morning, do a couple of “I will attract a drunk driver today, where he’ll ram his SUV into the driver’s side, killing me instantly”.

Law of Attraction? More like the Law Of Wishful Thinking.

Now … don’t get me wrong. I actually use the Law of Attraction to get some stuff that was too specific to be a mere coincidence.

Law of Attraction does work … even ought it’s somewhat over exaggerated. Remember, visualization and affirmation without action is merely wishful thinking. Kinda like day dreaming. Fantasizing.

To me, success comes from just DOING it WITHOUT DOUBTING IF SUCCESS IS POSSIBLE. So I skip the unnecessary affirmations, prayers and visualizations.

I admit, I do fail at a lot of things. But who doesn’t? But I also notice that once I plow through the failures, success is inevitable.

But I guess it’s up to the individual, use whatever works.
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Leave my kids out of this.
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It’s a smart marketing gimmick so they can church out a $34.99 DVD set.

I’m sure the starving people of Africa can use the Law of Attraction to get some food in their stomach. How about people who die from car accidents? I’m sure they wake up in the morning, do a couple of “I will attract a drunk driver today, where he’ll ram his SUV into the driver’s side, killing me instantly”.

Law of Attraction? More like the Law Of Wishful Thinking.

Now … don’t get me wrong. I actually use the Law of Attraction to get some stuff that was too specific to be a mere coincidence.

Law of Attraction does work … even ought it’s somewhat over exaggerated. Remember, visualization and affirmation without action is merely wishful thinking. Kinda like day dreaming. Fantasizing.

To me, success comes from just DOING it WITHOUT DOUBTING IF SUCCESS IS POSSIBLE. So I skip the unnecessary affirmations, prayers and visualizations.

I admit, I do fail at a lot of things. But who doesn’t? But I also notice that once I plow through the failures, success is inevitable.

But I guess it’s up to the individual, use whatever works.
your site hawks gambling in many forms, talk about the suffering children. I haven't heard of anybody filing bankruptcy because of their LOA habit.

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Dear Ken Nubo,

I think you might get a small part of "the Secret" but not all. "the Secret" is a very wide topic which people study for more than 30 years. There's no way me and you can understand it in 2 hour video.

Not saying that "You screw up the point and stop putting opinion on the people who are more success than you."

Can you be generous to read what I want to write...

One thing you are hell right is all results come from doing or action. That I'm with you. If someone just thinking to be rich everyday and sit at home, he's going to fail. (almost 100% sure)

So, what is the "thoughts" mentioned in "the Secret"?

If you agree to me on the action generate results, I wish you can agree this with me also:

"Thoughts form action"

Creating successful thoughts will form successful action and finally create successful results. So, full of thoughts without action will definitely generate no results. You will learn all this in the missing part of the Secret. “The Secret” is Awesome! But… How To Start Using It? » Secrets Of Unlimited Wealth

That's the reason why most people misunderstood or don't know how to use.

Thank you for bring this out to clarify it to more people.

About accident and hunger:

They didn't focus their thoughts purposely. They did it subconsciously. Do you think people who have no food are born to think they have abundance of food?

No.

They think only what is in front of them right now- "No Food". So everyday they think they have no food and finally make no food a serious reality to them.

I'm not quite sure about the accident part. This is what I speculate:

Lots of people dying in accident everyday. It's all over newspaper. This create fear of accident to all people in the world. The more you fear, the more you will think about it. Finally, it turns out real to some people.

It's not their fault because most of us are born in this world like that. Using the secret will generate positive thoughts around the world. If everyone have positive thoughts, this world will definitely have less accident and less starvation.

I'm not here to blame the starving people having negative thoughts. I'm here to say we can create a positive world that is powerful enough to end starvation and world disasters.
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Funniest skeptic post I've ever seen. Starts out hard and calling everyone who thinks LoA is real gullible (to which the best response I've seen is this:
You have a choice)

And then says, no wait, I use LoA, too. And then says its cool to use it. Lol.
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My children is gonna suffer eh?
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I don't think they is.
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I’m sure the starving people of Africa can use the Law of Attraction to get some food in their stomach. How about people who die from car accidents? I’m sure they wake up in the morning, do a couple of “I will attract a drunk driver today, where he’ll ram his SUV into the driver’s side, killing me instantly”.
About Africa and hunger... How long are people in Africa hungry? 10,50,100,200,500 years? They can't be hungry forever... People die if they don't eat, so there has to be a period when they weren't hungry? Why do hungry people in Africa that don't have anything to eat make children when they know that their children also won't have anything to eat. If they didn't make so many children maybe they wouldn't be so hungry, nor their children, so they are attracting it in some way.

And traffic accidents? For example, a lot more people die from cancer then in traffic. Maybe because it's so instant death, maybe that's why it's hard to attract it and it depends more on probability of some kind... I don't really have an answer for this.
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About Africa and hunger... How long are people in Africa hungry? 10,50,100,200,500 years? They can't be hungry forever... People die if they don't eat, so there has to be a period when they weren't hungry? Why do hungry people in Africa that don't have anything to eat make children when they know that their children also won't have anything to eat. If they didn't make so many children maybe they wouldn't be so hungry, nor their children, so they are attracting it in some way.

And traffic accidents? For example, a lot more people die from cancer then in traffic. Maybe because it's so instant death, maybe that's why it's hard to attract it and it depends more on probability of some kind... I don't really have an answer for this.
But you do make an interesting point... We can put a man in space, but can't get Africans to grow some corn or wheat or something...? Can we not pipe some water to those folks and teach them to garden...?

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About Africa and hunger... How long are people in Africa hungry? 10,50,100,200,500 years? They can't be hungry forever... People die if they don't eat, so there has to be a period when they weren't hungry?
This made me chuckle... Maybe because it makes sense...
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*Yawn* Yup.......
Whlst I agree with your sentiments, your not really contributing to the post and its annoying having to flick past posts that aren't useful, so please for everyones sanity, don't do it.

Now Ken Nubo your obviously confused about this.

I can't go into detail about why because i have school now, when i get a chance I will give a full explanation.

But so I don't seem like a hypocrit I will leave you with this...

Do not think of it as creating, think of it as pathfinding.
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Whlst I agree with your sentiments, your not really contributing to the post and its annoying having to flick past posts that aren't useful, so please for everyones sanity, don't do it.
You're right,
Thank you for your guidance on forum educate, sorry to have to make you spin the mouse wheel 3 times... Based on the title and the content of the original post It seemed appropriate... My apologies.
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Hi everyone,

My intention here is that I will be understood correctly.

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Whlst I agree with your sentiments, your not really contributing to the post and its annoying having to flick past posts that aren't useful, so please for everyones sanity, don't do it.
I wish to assert here that there are no useless posts. Even saying 'yawn' says volumes!!! I laughed when I read it, even though it was a bit condescending.

To be honest I can PARTLY understand the tension that Ken Nubo expresses in such an unfortunate and angry manner (not to mention using it as a marketing gimmick...groan...). So the stress is on partly here.

I am a new student of LOA and this forum accelerates my learning, so thanks everyone.

But as junior apprentice, I do go through times when various horrendous atrocities perpetrated on people around the world make me want to scream that LoA is just an excuse for people to turn their heads away. Even though I intellectually understand why we indeed may need to turn our heads away until we learn to ‘allow’.

For my entire life I have had great respect to people who work with disadvantaged. Especially with seriously disadvantaged. Once again, intellectually, I understand that it is possible to be helping people without necessarily re-producing the pain by loving and not pitying them. Yet, there are times when the ‘contrast’ seem unnecessarily severe and then emotions kick in. Then selfishness doesn't seem right.

I think this is a sphere of greatest tension for me. (well, one of them at least)

But it is all an exciting learning adventure. I am loving it!!!

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When even the biggest skeptics admit that the Law of Attraction is real to them, i can't help but feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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Whlst I agree with your sentiments, your not really contributing to the post and its annoying having to flick past posts that aren't useful, so please for everyones sanity, don't do it.

Now Ken Nubo your obviously confused about this.

I can't go into detail about why because i have school now, when i get a chance I will give a full explanation.

But so I don't seem like a hypocrit I will leave you with this...

Do not think of it as creating, think of it as pathfinding.
my "yawn" post was contributing, just as much as his initial post was.

He doesn't give two cents about LOA or learning anything about it, his site is a gambling site, he is interested in getting links into his blog & page rank. First lesson in getting traffic: Write something controversial - bingo, sorry it makes me yawn.

he hasn't come back to debate his points, because he probably is forum & blog hopping posting his controversial rants all over the web, to promote his gambling blog.

of course, I could be wrong - and if that is the case and it was a serious post, double yawn.
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When even the biggest skeptics admit that the Law of Attraction is real to them, i can't help but feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

When Richard Dawkins endorses LoA, then you can feel warm and fuzzy.
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Hey guys,

I just did a google search and found this, thought it could be interesting:

The Lie Of Attraction


I just checked out the page and signed up, it looks pretty promising and should stir things up.

What do you think?
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<coming in late, referring to the OP>

And your point is??? Have you ever bothered to read, do any research, look beyond the superficial aspects of Law Of Attraction to the varying philosophies behind it?

You're coming off sounding like some kid that watched the dvd & this is the first time you've ever heard of it and then decide to spout nonsense. On the Very surface it could appear a little like what you spewed but that's where the similarity ends if you bother to educate yourself.

Looks like you've received the attention you're seeking w/that silly thread title LOL. Oh, by the way, my kids are becoming quite adept at LOA and are far from suffering.

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One thing you are hell right is all results come from doing or action. That I'm with you. If someone just thinking to be rich everyday and sit at home, he's going to fail. (almost 100% sure)
That kind of thinking will attract those kinds of results to you, that's LOA basic truth.

If you don't believe in it, that's what LOA will bring to you - "your wish is my command". You tell yourself that it doesn't work that way and LOA will make that your reality. Seeing isn't believing - Believing is seeing.

Make the request, place yourself in alignment with the end result, keep your emotions in line with the request and just believe it will happen. LOA will give you some type of feedback if the request has been taken and place the required events in your life that will bring you to your end goal. It isn't your job to determine the details about how this will be achieved, let LOA & the Universe worry about that - as soon as you worry about how it's going to be achieved you set up the roadblocks that will bring conflict & obstacles to what it is you want achieved.

As far as people using LOA to will car crashes & other disasters in your life. Obviously that's not what happens. But I bet you those same people have thought something along the way with enough negative emotion & intensity that brings them into alignment with some type of disaster. I'm sure that mostly everyone has been stressed enough to wish that all their problems would end somehow but unfortunately their thoughts are on stress, problems, negative things happening in their life, etc. LOA just brings you more of what you're thinking about.

That's a basic definition of LOA.

And if you've led a negative unhappy life, you can see how your unconscious thoughts & actions which have been fueled by negative, hurtful, painful emotions have attracted more of the same into your reality.

What becomes hard for people to think about is how to turn it around, most if not all of us having been using LOA unconsciously forever. Now that you have to be deliberate and think about it and keep focus & positive & happy, it feels like a bit of chore. And when things don't manifest as intended you begin to doubt LOA and it's ability. The universe doesn't care about how big something is that you're wishing for, size is a human based concept, the universe isn't limited by it, the universe has no limits, the only limits that exist are the ones you place on your own reality. Work on removing those limits, and achieve what you want. As long as you believe there are limits, as long as you believe things only work a certain way, that's what LOA will bring into your life. The universe & LOA have no limits, if things aren't happening in your life the way you want them to, examine your habits, your beliefs, your emotions & mindset and your recent actions and how they contributed to your present status - those are your limits and LOA is just bringing more of that into your life.

When you plant those seeds of intention, don't worry about how they will manifest, how long it will take, if it will happen, etc. Your job is to ask for what you want and be in alignment with what you want. Don't question how it will happen and what actions are needed to make it happen, just ask & assume it will happen, even visualize what it's like in your life when you've achieved what you've asked for, be in that mindset and it will happen in your life. LOA will place the necessary things in your life to get you what you want to achieve.

If you doubt any of this, think about your mindset that enables this doubt, and then know that LOA will bring you exactly that, more things for you to doubt about and question how any of this works.

Believe that it works and LOA will manifest things in your life to maintain those beliefs and keep reaching for more. Believe that it doesn't work or requires extra action as part of the requirement and you just limit yourself and LOA will manifest that belief in some form in your reality.

FYI - LOA is real, I know it to be real - I can't explain my current life in any other way. What I'm working on now is removing the barriers & limits in my life that I have placed on myself which keep me from getting what I want. If you want LOA to work for you, you should do the same, otherwise keep doing what you're doing and LOA will bring more of what that is to you.

The difficulty is it's simplicity if that makes sense (and it does for me).

Have a good day & great weekend!!!

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and mine too... hmm.. wait I don't have any kids Now who's going to suffer because I certainly am not.
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