What are you getting from not manifesting?

[dancer]

When I asked myself what I am getting from not manifesting my desire, I was shocked by what came up.

Is not getting what you intend an opportunity to finally deal with limiting beliefs, not to mention self discovery?

[Sam988]

Maybe it's an opportunity to come to terms with reality.

[dancer]

Originally Posted by Sam988

Maybe it's an opportunity to come to terms with reality.

I must admit, I enjoy your comments, Sam. They are full of humour. You were being humorous, weren't you? Or am I [U]judgemental/U]?

BTW, how do you mitigate risks to your success? And, while I have your attention, have you always had beliefs that support you in your success? If not, how did you deal with them?

[LawofAttractionHandbook]

I've had the same thing happen to me. Sometimes things aren't meant to be. Try to remember why you wanted to manifest that in the first place? And, can you live without it? Most of the things we want we don't need; maybe its time to move on and manifest something of greater intrinsic value.

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by dancer

I must admit, I enjoy your comments, Sam. They are full of humour. You were being humorous, weren't you? Or am I [U]judgemental/U]?

Yes there was some sarcasm there . It's the best way i have of expressing myself in this IM forum without being too harsh to people.

Originally Posted by dancer

BTW, how do you mitigate risks to your success? And, while I have your attention, have you always had beliefs that support you in your success? If not, how did you deal with them?

The way i mitigate risks to my success is to consider what could go wrong in my plans, and to consider if i can live with it, should what i expect of going right but has risks of going wrong does end up failing. Of course i'm always optimistic about everything, but i do not fail to consider that things might go wrong. If i don't consider the risks, i would end up doing stupid decisions.
That's the problem i have with the belief that some people have in this forum.
They believe in the SR and believe that if they just believe strongly enough in something, it will happen. They believe, e.g., they can manipulate the stock market, the economy, or whatever, because it is inside "their world", "their creation". This approach fails to consider risks, or doesn't put the importance on analyzing risks as someone more down to earth would.

By the way, consider all that i said above to be more about the financial world (investing and business world), so you can think of examples about what i said.


The believes in SR will come up with arguments saying that i said this all with the belief that "the world is objective" and that since i believe that the world is so, so it will be for me. It's impossible to discuss with this argument, since it can't be proven nor unproven. Like discussing religion. Religions are as true (false) as SR, neither can be proven nor unproven. That's why i gave up discussing things here on the IM forum and will drop some humorous lines now and then

[Rose of Cairo]

Most of the time when I don't get what I want, I realize that I wasn't a vibrational match for my intention, I was vibrating too low. So I work on my vibrations for now.

I like Sam's comments too

[dancer]

Originally Posted by 128951

Sam988;Yes there was some sarcasm there . It's the best way i have of expressing myself in this IM forum without being too harsh to people.

I admit you got my back up, but I was honest when I said I enjoy your comments.

Originally Posted by 128951

Sam988;By the way, consider all that i said above to be more about the financial world (investing and business world), so you can think of examples about what i said.

Risk mitigation can be applied to much of life, even IM.

[dancer]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Most of the time when I don't get what I want, I realize that I wasn't a vibrational match for my intention, I was vibrating too low. So I work on my vibrations for now.

I like Sam's comments too

I don't think I was clear in my first post. I do not think I have totally failed with my intention. It's taking its time coming and I asked myself what do I feel when it is not manifesting. The things I feel revealed what I consider limiting beliefs. Now, I have something to work on and this will lead to raising my vibrations.

If my answer to this question had been, 'it's on its way' or if I felt a sense of peace, then I would know that I'm on track.

Does this make sense? Any thoughts?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Sam988

The way i mitigate risks to my success is to consider what could go wrong in my plans, and to consider if i can live with it, should what i expect of going right but has risks of going wrong does end up failing.

Gasp ... So we have similarities, after all.

Of course i'm always optimistic about everything,

Which is more than I can say for myself.

but i do not fail to consider that things might go wrong. If i don't consider the risks, i would end up doing stupid decisions.
That's the problem i have with the belief that some people have in this forum.
They believe in the SR and believe that if they just believe strongly enough in something, it will happen. They believe, e.g., they can manipulate the stock market, the economy, or whatever, because it is inside "their world", "their creation".

It all depends on where you are, in your personal development with LOA. For example, I do not currently believe that I can use LOA to manipulate the stock market - however, I do believe that I can use LOA to be guided to make excellent investing decisions.

If, however, I were Bernanke or Greenspan or Buffett, I may well genuinely believe that I can manipulate the stock market. One way to do it would be as simple as to make loud predictions about the stock market and announce them to the media, triggering a mass response among public investors. Another way to do it would be (in Buffet's case) to suddenly sell or buy large amounts of particular stocks, especially in the smaller financial markets.

How abut a non-financial example? Eg I believe that I cannot run the 100m under 10 seconds. This limiting belief doesn't bother me, since I have zero aspirations to be a world-class athlete.

However in the world, there are people who do have such aspirations, and there are people who do believe that they can do it. And well, so they have. What were you thinking - that people unintentionally win Olympic gold medals?

So this is the crucial point that you don't see, Sam. There are limits and constraints, for LOA users and everyone else, as to what you can actually get yourself to think or believe. The challenge is to push or bypass those limits and constraints, where they are an obstacle to your desired goals and intentions. It doesn't mean that you need to push or bypass those limits and constraints on everything, and certainly it does not mean that you need to push or bypass those limits and constraints on things which currently appear bizarre or theoretically impossible to you.

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

So this is the crucial point that you don't see, Sam. There are limits and constraints, for LOA users and everyone else, as to what you can actually get yourself to think or believe. The challenge is to push or bypass those limits and constraints, where they are an obstacle to your desired goals and intentions. It doesn't mean that you need to push or bypass those limits and constraints on everything, and certainly it does not mean that you need to push or bypass those limits and constraints on things which currently appear bizarre or theoretically impossible to you.

I agree a 100% with you, and i do see the point. We must always be pushing our limits and believe that we can achieve what we want. But what i wanted to say in my earlier posts is that some people here who believe in the SR and believe that they can manipulate everything in their reality just don't see those limits. They think there are no limits as to what they can manipulate and change, like thinking that they can change the stock market just with their thoughts.

[Audiovisual]

Hey Dancer you might want to read the book "The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane Roberts. Its a Seth book and in it Seth talks about how we shape our lives through our believes and he gives some exercises about how to change limiting believes. One of them, self hypnosis, I have been using and have had some success with.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Sam988

But what i wanted to say in my earlier posts is that some people here who believe in the SR and believe that they can manipulate everything in their reality just don't see those limits. They think there are no limits as to what they can manipulate and change, like thinking that they can change the stock market just with their thoughts.

Except possibly for Max Power, I don't think that there are any people like that around here. What we do have are:

(1) people who believe that reality in its entirety, as perceived by them, is created by them (but note: this is not the same as believing that everything in reality can be consciously controlled, manipulated or changed by them);

and

(2) people who, believing (1) above, further believe that theoretically they should be able to consciously manipulate and change virtually any aspect of reality (but note: this is not the same as believing that currently, they are already able to do it).

The people who have caught your attention are probably a subset of Category 2. They are the ones who are trying to manifest something which you view as completely impossible,and which they view as theoretically possible, if practically extraordinary.

Either way, these people will eventually realise where the practical limits of their ability to apply LOA currently lie, and then they will adjust downwards, and then once again revert to the (important) process of attempting to break those (lower) limits.

The point is that even if you only subscribe to a much watered-down version of LOA (eg that it is based on the reticular activating cortex, it is just positive thinking etc), even in such a case, the theoretical limits of that watered-down version will probably lie far beyond the practical limits of what you are currently able to do (and that's simply because human potential is so vast). So everyone is always faced with the same practical challenge - of testing and breaking their current limits to apply LOA, wherever those limits may currently lie.

[uberinquisitive]

Wow...I just asked myself:

"I am totally broke. I am now looking for a job, but I am having massive difficulties, despite a pretty decent resume. What is the pay-off for not manifesting a job?"

I. I am afraid I'm not a good employee.

1. I am bipolar and borderline, and when I'm down, I can't get out of bed. I miss a lot of days. I feel unreliable.
2. I have poor self-discipline. If I don't feel like going on, I sometimes just call in and stay in bed.

II. Most of my past corporate jobs have been extremely boring and stifling.
III. I dread waking up early - for some reason, I associate it with deep anxiety.
IV. I feel conflicted about being financially independent

1. I feel incompetent - I was raised to feel this way
2. I love the freedom of being an adult, but not the responsibility. Can't I have it both ways?
3. My family will always bail me out. I have an overly secure safety net.
4. I'm a girl - a man is supposed to take care of me.

Thanks so much for starting this thread. Now I know why I've been dragging my feet - no wonder I don't have a job yet.

[Dbarker]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

... the theoretical limits of that watered-down version will probably lie far beyond the practical limits of what you are currently able to do (and that's simply because human potential is so vast). So everyone is always faced with the same practical challenge - of testing and breaking their current limits to apply LOA, wherever those limits may currently lie.

Good point Godot. I would guess that a lot of social conditioning went into one's Ego creating those limits.

[dancer]

Originally Posted by Audiovisual

Hey Dancer you might want to read the book "The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane Roberts. Its a Seth book and in it Seth talks about how we shape our lives through our believes and he gives some exercises about how to change limiting believes. One of them, self hypnosis, I have been using and have had some success with.

TI'll check it out. Thanks, Audiovisual.

Originally Posted by uberinquisitive

Wow...


Thanks so much for starting this thread. Now I know why I've been dragging my feet - no wonder I don't have a job yet.

I was wowed, too, empowered even, as I saw potential for turning it around.
Totally relate to dreading waking up in the mornings, I'm a night owl. But, you know, mornings have a special energy and I wish I could have both. Of course, I can stay up and wait in dawn, but it is not the same as waking refreshed and relishing the peace of the morning.

Uberinquisitive, I wish you luck. Oh, you may have hit some roadblocks, but remember your wonderful qualities and recent sucesses. For lack of an applicable icon, I'm stealing something I've seen in other posts - ((((LOVE))))