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Old 10-30-2007, 07:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default OK, so I'm officially cranky at LoA

Did all the steps. Did it right. Visualized. Created images in my head. Wrote it all down. Took the steps necessary, in the right order, then... let the universe handle the rest. Detached from the outcome.

Allow me to back up a little bit.

One of the things I've worked on manifesting is a new position in a much more successful firm. So, using the principles of LoA, the tips on this board as well as some picked up in books (most notably the books by Napoleon Hill and others) I've done what I can to manifest an offer to work at this particular firm. Made contacts inside the firm, found of an opening, did everything right, detached form the outcome...

got rejected. Just found out a few moments ago.

Never even got an interview. Didn't even make the short-list.

So I'm officially pi$$ed off.

I don't get it. I manifested a pizza lunch one day and a small bit of money a month or so ago. But when it comes to big stuff, stuff that matters, I get nada.

WTF is that all about??

yea, I'm venting. Oddly, it's not making me feel any better
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So this wasn't the firm. You had some self-doubt probably, something holding you back. That I can't figure out for you. Get back on that horse and keep towards manifestation. You'll get it. You're obviously getting closer if you got a rejection. Think it over. Try again.
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yea, I'm venting. Oddly, it's not making me feel any better
It made me smile though...

I feel you on this, for me it seems to have something to do with the resistance level... Don't fret my friend, you'll get the hang of it...
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You don't believe a pizza lunch matters?????
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So this wasn't the firm. You had some self-doubt probably, something holding you back.

Hehehe always the same talk. Just like when religious people don't get what they want after praying to god they say "Ah it was God's will, i'm sure this is part of something better that He got for me in the long term".

And when they rarely get something from "god", they find all the proofs they'll ever need and tell others "how can't you see god acting in our lives!?? Just the other day god blessed me with X. How could it have not been God??". Hehe...
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Big stuff takes longer and tends to come about in unexpected ways.

Give it a while..
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I don't know... you get all cranky about a stupid little thing like a job, and you forget to be grateful for something as great as a pizza lunch.... I'd stiff you, too!
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Hehehe always the same talk. Just like when religious people don't get what they want after praying to god they say "Ah it was God's will, i'm sure this is part of something better that He got for me in the long term".

And when they rarely get something from "god", they find all the proofs they'll ever need and tell others "how can't you see god acting in our lives!?? Just the other day god blessed me with X. How could it have not been God??". Hehe...
I can only speak from my OWN life experience. And frankly, yeah, the whole positive change of perspective works. My life is great keeping a positive attitude. I don't wait on God or Mumbly Joe or whoever the hell acts as the Great Ranger in the Sky to give me stuff. I do what I can to make the best life possible and I KNOW things will pan out because they always have. Am I making good money? Check. Great fiance? Check. Wonderful friends? Check. So, I do what works. I also recommend it because why not also have people benefit from the stuff it took me decades to figure out?

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I don't know... you get all cranky about a stupid little thing like a job, and you forget to be grateful for something as great as a pizza lunch.... I'd stiff you, too!
True. I'd rather have pizza than another job right now.
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Hehehe always the same talk. Just like when religious people don't get what they want after praying to god they say "Ah it was God's will, i'm sure this is part of something better that He got for me in the long term".

And when they rarely get something from "god", they find all the proofs they'll ever need and tell others "how can't you see god acting in our lives!?? Just the other day god blessed me with X. How could it have not been God??". Hehe...
Alright, So I see you here in this forum... But, more times than not you're not contributing much (maybe sarcasm)... So, W.T.F dude... Did you have some useful contribution to make... I have yet to see any stories of your experiences that goes beyond what you already supposedly comprehend.

Perhaps one day you'll experience something different...
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Hehehe always the same talk. Just like when religious people don't get what they want after praying to god they say "Ah it was God's will, i'm sure this is part of something better that He got for me in the long term".

And when they rarely get something from "god", they find all the proofs they'll ever need and tell others "how can't you see god acting in our lives!?? Just the other day god blessed me with X. How could it have not been God??". Hehe...
Just like when people are genuinely seeking feedback and support from like-minded people, there are always people who love to crash the party and make it all about them.

Sam, when something does not go your way, and you are hurting, be kind to the person who revels in your pain.

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Old 10-30-2007, 08:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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cd--there could be a firm even BETTER than the one you wanted. Is it the experience of being in a better position that makes you happy that you're seeking, or does it HAVE to be this one, specific, geographic company?
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Believe it or not, I value Sam988's input. He may or may not be right, I can't comment on that, but I do appreciate his comments on this and other forums (fora?). Certainly, having like-minded people is valuable, but those who introduce something different can open up areas that like-minders may not consider. It makes things a bit spicier, and I for one like that.

I'm still grumpy though

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cd--there could be a firm even BETTER than the one you wanted. Is it the experience of being in a better position that makes you happy that you're seeking, or does it HAVE to be this one, specific, geographic company?
No, there's nothing specific about this particular organization other than it's massively successful, a multi-bazillion dollar international organization. I grow weary of working for two-bit players which is where I am now. Could there be another one? Yes, there are a few in my geographic area and I'm not opposed to moving if the offer is right.

Still... it's the fact that I thought I did everything right, and it still wasn't enough... bah...

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cd--there could be a firm even BETTER than the one you wanted. Is it the experience of being in a better position that makes you happy that you're seeking, or does it HAVE to be this one, specific, geographic company?
Yeah -- an independent cuss like you? Maybe you are being prevented from having a mere job because you're meant to start your own business. Has that crossed your pizza-eating mind?
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Dammit, Angela. I have to go across town to drop off some work... And you KNOW I'm going to have to get pizza now. *Shakes fist.* I'll calm down when I have spinach and mushroom from the local parlor in my stomach.

But your point is great. Our psyches are great at guiding as toward what we want, aren't they?
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Did all the steps. Did it right. Visualized. Created images in my head. Wrote it all down. Took the steps necessary, in the right order, then... let the universe handle the rest. Detached from the outcome.

Allow me to back up a little bit.

One of the things I've worked on manifesting is a new position in a much more successful firm. So, using the principles of LoA, the tips on this board as well as some picked up in books (most notably the books by Napoleon Hill and others) I've done what I can to manifest an offer to work at this particular firm. Made contacts inside the firm, found of an opening, did everything right, detached form the outcome...

got rejected. Just found out a few moments ago.

Never even got an interview. Didn't even make the short-list.

So I'm officially pi$$ed off.

I don't get it. I manifested a pizza lunch one day and a small bit of money a month or so ago. But when it comes to big stuff, stuff that matters, I get nada.

WTF is that all about??

yea, I'm venting. Oddly, it's not making me feel any better
your true beliefs are showing.

read your post - what do you believe?

you believe it doesn't work. Unfortunately, in order to perceive and experience a desire, it must fit through our belief filter.

don't say - " I did believe, I did everything I was supposed to do...."
If you believed you would still believe, and know that it is coming - unless you plan on dying right this moment, then tomorrow, the next minute - anything can happen.

belief.
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don't say - " I did believe, I did everything I was supposed to do...."
If you believed you would still believe, and know that it is coming - unless you plan on dying right this moment, then tomorrow, the next minute - anything can happen.

belief.
But at what point do you say "I guess I was wrong". Relationships for example. Everything is going great, you are intending this SPECIFIC relationship to work out, but things change. At what point do you say "I thought I had it, but it appears that I didn't."

Maybe it was the step towards a better one?
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I'm sorry for you. That's damn frustrating. I'm going to piss you off even more now

How do you know it didn't work? You took action, great, the first attempt didn't work directly, well ok, so what? ♥♥♥♥♥ happens. It doesn't have to be this firm. Maybe you'll get a job in another firm. Maybe for some incredibly complicated reasons this firm will contact you to a later point in time. Maybe you'll start your own business and be much more successful with it than your current firm is now. You never know

You're funny you, still looking for a proof for the LoA and as soon as something doesn't seem to work, you don't believe in it anymore.

To get this great job, you need to be on a level to be a vibrational match for your dream. Now you're demanding exactly this job exactly the way you wanted it. You think the Universe ows you something just because you did everything right. You're raging around like a little boy just because the world doesn't spin your way. Well that's a sign that you're not on such a level.

The point is not what happens, it's how you react to it. So, man, calm down, breathe, and stay confident and positive no matter what happens to you. Because now, in this state, you're not allowing at all!

And don't tell me "I was allowing and did everything right and was a vibrational match for this job! ... until I heard I got rejected" Well your reaction now shows that you weren't that harmonious inside, or else you wouldn't get pissed off so easily.

Get rejected three times and learn to remain happy while rejected first, then you'll be ready for your dream job
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Try this. Put your LoA believer glasses on for just a second. While wearing these glasses, you believe in LoA 100%. Meaning, EVERYTHING in your life this moment you attracted yourself and you're 100% responsible for. That includes everything from the clothing you're wearing right this moment to the weather in the sky.

I'm not saying these glasses are correct. Think of them as "funny glasses" if you have to.

Now...while wearing these glasses, open up a journal, grab a pen and paper and answer this question:

"Why did I manifest this particular experience in this moment in time?"

When you answer, think about THIS particular experience in it's entirety. That means also why did you manifest me writing this to you. Why does your keyboard start with a Q and end with a P on the top bar when you know that's inefficiant. Why are you here in 2007?

Answer as best as you can. Take off your glasses. Close your journal. Go back to living your life with whatever glasses you want. Repeat the process nitely for 30 days. See where it takes you.
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Points taken, all. Thanks.

Still cranky, but not so much now.
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But when it comes to big stuff, stuff that matters, I get nada.

WTF is that all about??
The moment you treat material outcome as different......it is.

If everything is made of energy, then everything is the same.

I don't get money or love or success or anything, I just make the energy something I desire to see, to experience.

What does love, money and success all have in common?

It's all made of the same thing..........energy.

If you could flick a switch on your senses (especialy your eyes) and switch to energy mode, you'd see a field of energy projecting outward to your limits and you'd also see that the energy loosely resembles faint physical form, flick the switch back and you get sharp rendered reality.

There is no pray, LoA or IM.

There is energy.

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From the Matrix........

When Neo finally sees the Matrix, it's the code (energy) he sees, with some faint oulines of the reality. I'm guessing he can switch the view on and off.
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Got it, cdn? Just make the energy something you desire to experience!

no anchovy energy on my half, please.
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Got it, cdn? Just make the energy something you desire to experience!

no anchovy energy on my half, please.
Hehe But you want the energy to be fries though right????

When we use the LoA/IM/vibrational harmony or whatever we call it, we use the visualisation of the desired goal to place it in our subconscious/consciousness/gods hands, so it will render out into reality.

So rather than thinking we are placing an image in a process to output into reality, we are simply chaning the way abundant energy is perceived.

If we are simply energy, then everything else must be too.

I think even Einstein thought like that.

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Since i received many answers to my post, i'll answer them all in just this one post without any quotes i'm too lazy now to do that.


NotesMaeve, if this works for you, then great. Keep on believing it, seriously. It's that i found that for me i think that being more objective works better.

cdn2wheeler, thanks for the support

cylon, my arguments get misinterpreted as if i'm trying to hurt people, when i'm actually trying to convince them of my point of view. Appearently, it's useless to try. But i keep trying, maybe sometimes someone listens to me. Maybe there are guests (from the average 500 ppl online here, only around 50 are members, and 450 are guests) here who need other points of view than the one most members here preach, so i give it to them. As a board director once said "If there are 10 executives in a room all agreeing with each other, there's no need for 9 of them".

Lil Chris, i could make a very long text to answer you post because i did experience amazing things, probably more amazing than the ones you did, but i don't believe i had ever controlled them, so there's no need to say "how i attracted this or that". On this IM forum i'm appearently just the one who always goes against the herd (but i don't do it just to "steal the show", i really believe in my ideas and convictions"). Gives people who don't know much about SR and IM another point of view, as i've written in the response to cylon. If you go to my public profile and see my track of posts, you'll find that most of my posts are very informative and not in this IM forum.
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NotesMaeve, if this works for you, then great. Keep on believing it, seriously. It's that i found that for me i think that being more objective works better.
As long as you're happy and successful, perfect.
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Did all the steps. Did it right. Visualized. Created images in my head. Wrote it all down. Took the steps necessary, in the right order, then... let the universe handle the rest. Detached from the outcome.

Allow me to back up a little bit.

One of the things I've worked on manifesting is a new position in a much more successful firm. So, using the principles of LoA, the tips on this board as well as some picked up in books (most notably the books by Napoleon Hill and others) I've done what I can to manifest an offer to work at this particular firm. Made contacts inside the firm, found of an opening, did everything right, detached form the outcome...

got rejected. Just found out a few moments ago.

Never even got an interview. Didn't even make the short-list.

So I'm officially pi$$ed off.

I don't get it. I manifested a pizza lunch one day and a small bit of money a month or so ago. But when it comes to big stuff, stuff that matters, I get nada.

WTF is that all about??

yea, I'm venting. Oddly, it's not making me feel any better
Having read your beliefs expressed in many posts, I'm not really buying it. I reckon deep down you got your true beliefs verified, you got what you really wanted. Look how quickly and easily you resonate with similar beliefs posted here.

Your pizza/big stuff situation reminds me of business or the stock market. Everyone is relaxed, positive, sure, believes in themselves, and is in a good place, when its on paper, when they think it doesn't really matter, or when its not their money or butt on the line. Watch the same people make an actual trade, or walk into the bank and sign up for a million.

Lots of times I have things crop up in my manifestations. People on the mobile panicking and screeching about disasters. I get down there, and have a look, and focus on the solution. Its automatic to me, I truly believe anything is possible. At the end of the day, it inspires me more, to see the impossible finished.

Honestly, if I wanted that job so much, if it meant so, so much, my first reaction would be to be back there, talking to them. It wouldn't even occur to me to post something like this. And if I was again and again booted out the door, I would know that they weren't for me, and visa versa. That's the point I try to make about mindsets, true beliefs. You cant fool yourself in the crunch.

Again, overall, I see much, much more opposition from you, and seeking opposition, than support for what you claim you gave your all when you tried.
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There you go, cdn, now don't you feel better?
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There you go, cdn, now don't you feel better?
Enough with the examples already! You might overwhelm him!
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:37 AM   #28 (permalink)
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CDN, I really relate to where you are, just now. I'm was/kind of there, too! But, with a difference, I didn't just get cranky - I cried rivers. But, I'm no longer cranky and have stopped crying when I get a job rejection. Why? Cause, I've changed my perspective and am no longer putting my eggs in one basket and believe that the fantastic, challenging, stimulating and well paid job is coming.

My perspective change is partly due to some of the advice you give to others who have their hearts set on one specific person. Yes, I've been reading and thinking how great your advice is and applying it to other areas of my life. What would you tell yourself if this career move was a relationship issue?
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:02 PM   #29 (permalink)
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What would you tell yourself if this career move was a relationship issue?
Wow... first, I'm flattered, Dancer, that my words have had such a positive impact on you. (this is me blushing... see?)

And this perspective about paralleling a career move and a relationship is more appropriate than you know. That puts a whole different light on it, and for that I thank you.
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Oh, I love little IM technicalities.
I think you are being too strict with the universe, try to outsmart it.
You are not asking for the outcome. You are asking for the way how you want the universe to present you the outcome. It doesn't like that. Why do you want this job. Is it money, shorter commute, better work satisfaction? In my experience, people are not very likely to want certain things written on their business card just for the sake of it. It may be the desired result, but it is desired only because of its outcome.
Suppose, it is money. There are millions of ways you can get more money and getting a particular job in a particular company is just one of them. Why on Earth are you so sure that it is the best way to ask for it?! If you want money ask for a certain amount of money and let the world do the rest. If you want something else ask for something else.

The last time I was "ordering" myself a job, I was in the middle of the interviews and it was almost decided that I will get this job.
So I drew myself an order not for the job but the future salary on this surething job. Withing the next couple of weeks the process stopped. There was no advancement. Then I was rejected. In another week I've got a handful of offers one of them I've finally accepted. It carried the same amount of money I've ordered (which by the way was double my previous earnings) plus much better working conditions. A little later, I've found out that the previous position that I was rejected from had a budget limitation that would not allow me to get the money I've ordered. Go figure.

So, cdn, I guess you will be able to make some conclusions from this example.
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