Abraham Hicks: Is Desire the right word?

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by Zukin

My understanding of Ask and It Is Given is that what you want doesn't change the means of getting it. The means are always the same. The answer is just moving up the emotional scale. It doesn't matter what you want, since the methods to get it are the same in every circumstance.

Do you want a new car?
Feel as if you are at the top of the emotional scale.

Do you want a new house?
Feel as if you are at the top of the emotional scale.

Do you want a lover?
Feel as if you are at the top of the emotional scale.

That's my understanding of the book. This summary may also help:
Ask and It Is Given: Overview

It's kind of like the book The Power of Now in that if you read it in a short period of time it may seem confusing. Sometimes it's helpful to step backward for a moment and read a summary.

What if you want a new car to rob a bank?
What if you want a new house to create a crack den?
What if you want a lover to cheat on your wife?

Are those desires in alignment with Source? They may well be fulfilled, but it doesn't quite match up to what Hicks sometimes says, or doesn't say.

As I said in previous posts, Hicks repeatedly says in the first half of the book that every request and desire is answered immediately, regardless. Only in the second half does he begin to add caveats and provisos, like it needs to be in alignment with Source, and that it shouldn't cause harm to anyone else.

What if the vibrational level of your desire does not match the vibrational level of Source? Can anyone please answer that and put me out of my misery!!

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Cantando

What if the vibrational level of your desire does not match the vibrational level of Source? Can anyone please answer that and put me out of my misery!!

Its like this. How you feel -- good or bad -- is an indicator of how much you are resisting "source energy". If you were on the same vibrational level of source, you would be source and have source awareness. You don't have to be aware of BEING god to utilize this "god energy". Source is always radiating well being, and you are like a radio picking that up. You can interact with that source of well being, by offering a complimentary frequency. If you are feeling great, you are tuning in, and the object of your attention is on the way! It doesn't matter what you want. If you desire it, believe you can achieve it, and concentrate on the item of interest, rather than the lack thereof, you WILL attract it.

You can attract wealth, poverty, health, sickness, women, ducks, pogo sticks, bats, crack, cars, and all other manner of things. It doesn't matter if society considers it "evil". A Gazelle might consider a Lion to be evil, but they both manifested each other. There are no true "victims" -- only victims of ignorance. They attract what they attract because they do not know any better.

The only caveat is that you cannot control another and take away their free will. However, some people willingly give up conscious awareness of it. They still have it, they just forget that they do.

[RT Wolf]

Ok. I think your question is the source of evil? It is supposed to be resisting your connection to the source.

Yes, you can use IM for good or for "evil". However, your ability to manifest is highest when you are aligned with source, because then you are allowing the most. There's another caveat, they say that all your requests are answered, but you have to allow them in.

So there's two parts: wanting (or giving thought to something) and allowing (or believing or expecting). Allowing is best when you are in full connection to source, and manifestation is best when you are in a state of full allowing. If however, you are not in connection to source (like at the level of fear or anger), you are not using your thoughts to consciously create someone to harm. They just appear as a result of your negative thinking or thoughts of hurting others or yourself. However, the "other" that is harmed must also be in vibrational alignment with being harmed (which is a bit iffy for me, ie, did the Katrina victims intend the hurricane or the breaking of the levies?). At lower levels of emotion, yuo have to use action or force or willpower to achieve what you want. Now, being in full connection, you are simply too far away from thoughts of harm to others, because you Allow others to be as they are.

So, if your vibe is not aligned with Source and you intend something, you can only actually manifest the things that are within your vibe range (so, if you believe that strangers are to be feared, you'll see fearsome strangers). And intending something will not really work very well, either, it'll be on and off process, and it'll be unconscious.

I'm not sure how much of this I believe, but that seems to be my understanding of it. Does that clarify anything?

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by RT Wolf

I'm not sure how much of this I believe, but that seems to be my understanding of it. Does that clarify anything?

Thanks RT. Yes, that was helpful. Also, thanks Anagogy, Zukin and ALG for your input. I am now re-reading the material to gain a better understanding.

[themaster]

My test for evil is always the "hitler test" (highest source of evil we can proclaim that we know off)

Based on the hicks material.. if hitler felt good about killing, destroying etc. then he did nothing wrong.. even if he felt bad.. he still could have been attracting.. what you think about is, what you get.. so sayeth the main LOA rule..

But yes victims (based on the material) come in two categories.. those attracting and those in default (allowing world rules/world physical reality to put them in their place) That is in theory how you get 7 million victims.. + another 1-2 million soldiers expired.. ?