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Old 10-17-2007, 05:09 AM
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Do you like the concept of SR? Let's bake that noodle of yours some more........Steve's got an excellent SR Q&A SR Q&Abut I thought I'd try to clarify some stuff There could be some overlap, so maybe read Steve's Q&A first. Also these are my interpretations about SR, your's could be different

How can SR help me?
Nothing outside of your present moment awareness matters because it does not exist, so nothing can hurt you or worry you unless you bring it into your awareness.

But there's war, death, pain and suffering in the world?
No, there isn't. There is only all that stuff when you place it in your awareness.

So nothing really matters at all?
That's right, but you make it matter when you place it in your awareness, because you choose it to be there.

So people aren't real?
The people in your awareness are real, just as your physical body is real.

Are people conscious?
The word conscious and consciousness are a little confusing as is the word god, for they imply a big something or a singular something or a something outside of you. A better description would be that you are energy being.

So my true identity is energy?
Yes.

But energy has no form and everything in my awareness is formed?
Exactly. Thought, the only thing that is always present, is the only thing that is not physical, thought is energy, that is your true identity. Even when you're don't seem to be thinking, you are, because you're still creating.

So I'm the energy and everything formed from that energy?
Yes, but only inside present moment awareness.

That's crazy! How can I be a car or a bird or another person?
Because you're an energy being forming 24/7 into stuff (including your physical body) that you choose to have in your awareness.

What is awareness?
Everything you perceive within your present moment.

So nothing exists outside awareness?
That is correct.

If I'm an awesome energy being creating everything, why bother doing anything?
Doing things, working, moving, running are things to do, because you can't do them in your pure natural state, hence the need to create a physical being, they are enjoyable because they are experiences.

Don't other people matter?
The people in your awareness matter to you because you put them there and the people you're closest too matter more, because they are the most enjoyable parts of you that you created to experience.

But I thought nothing mattered?
That's true, things, people, matter to you as much as you require them to. Love is a very wonderful emotion because it's very pure, just like you're true state, that's why you identify greatly with it.

Why do I need to think like this?
You don't, but shifting your true identity to one of an energy being is very empowering because it means you are totally responsible for everything and that means you're creating everything and that means you can create anything. Also as the creator, nothing can hurt you, yes you will create challenging events, but they are experiences you desire.

Why would I want to experience continuing poverty of struggle?
All joy, pain, love, suffering are experiences and mostly become comfort zones, you get used to them and acccept them as unchangable because you don't believe you're creating them, it's always someone elses fault, so you give up control.

How do I get rich if I follow SR?
In the SR model you take formless energy (yourself) and create the physical manifestation of the material desire. No one gives you money, you create money and then create a believable process of that material possession.

So why don't I just win millions of dollars on the lottery?
Because you do not believe that is a believable process to obtain money.

But SR means people aren't real and that makes me feel sad and alone?
People in your awareness are as real as your body is, so there is this sense of connection with every person, because they are created (by you) to know yourself better. Even when your physical body is by itself, there's never lonliness, because everything in your awareness is you, so it's supportive and enjoyable of the experience.

If it's all me, then why bother interacting with others?
Because as you learn more about how it works, more of the puzzle is revealed, more things change to reflect the truth, people and events start changing and moving you through the expereince and as that happens, you creative power increases, plus interacting with others means you get to experience different versions of yourself as you desire.

If I'm in a room, does the outside world exist?
Without the energy being present, there is no creation, nothing exists without you being present.

Why is objective reality not as good as SR?
There is no good or bad, right or wrong, but in the OR model, everything exists wether you're there or not and that places creation outside of you and means you are at the mercy of outside forces and people you cannot control, so no matter how good you are at LoA and IM, then sometimes you won't get what you want or want to experience.

Does SR mean I'm the center of the universe?
Yes.

That's a lot of responsibility, how can I accept that?
It's not as much as you believe, because you're only ever creating in the present moment, there is no outside, nothing to be concerned about, because it doesn't exist, so it doesn't matter. It only matters when you place it inside awareness.

This is nuts! There is a whole world out there, billions of people, planets an entire solar system, how can this really help me?
Can you observe all the people, planet, galaxies, everything that is supposed to exsit all at once? No, because you only ever place a certain amount of stuff inside your awareness. You may have knowledge of all this stuff that is supposed to exist, but that is to provide a rich existance full of potential to bring some of it into awareness to experience.

Where is this energy being I'm supposed be?
It's always present 24/7 within your present moment awareness. You are everything in your awareness, but on a fundamental level, your true self in it's purest state is thought, which is the constant presence.

But when I stop thinking, I'm still creating?
Wherever you are right now, just stop and just observe your immediate surroundings. You are still actively creating seemingly without thought, but thought is a word to describe non physical energy and that non formed energy is always constant and present, rendering into form. In truth the energy always exists even in a non physical state as that is your true self, but it is malleable, changeable and controllable.

What happens if I give thought to something I don't want?
It will render into physical reality.

Why can't I just think of something and it immediately appears?
It does, but you don't notice it, because you think that's just stuff happening in your daily life. The trick is to render more purposefully.

How do I create all this stuff without really seemingly to think about?
You're desire to experience a rich full physical reality requires a set of rules to govern it and keep it stable. In your pure natural state, there are no rules, nothing, just formless energy, so to make it accepting and stable you've created some fundamental beliefs that stablise the reality.

Can I break the rules?
Yes, you made them up, so you can change them, but you're always aware of the boundries to maintain stabilty. The best thing to do is push the self imposed boundries to see how far you can go before they bend or break.

If you believe all this SR stuff, why bother writing about it?
Because it's the desire to know self to the point of better control and creativity and just as people are created to know self better, so is the search for a better understanding of the way things work.

So you are talking to yourself?
Yes

So if you're with someone having a conversation, you're talking to yourself?
Yes.

So other people have no free will?
They have as much will as you give them.

Why do I have to give to receive?
You don't, that is a perception. While giving and creating for the joy of others and self (same thing) is wonderful, it's not a requirement. SR is about being selfish, but not human selfish, energy being selfish. You natural state is self and bestowal. You are at your core a being of self and gift, by creating everything in your present moment awareness you are constantly providing a reality for all your creations to exist for your sole self experience.

SR is nuts, you're not god and I am a real individual person who exists outside of your awareness even when you're not around, the earth exists, planets, galaxies, billions of people, everything is real everywhere right now, what do you say to that?

I knew you were going to say that but I don't believe it's true.

Max
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So if something bad happens to someone I care about... it means it's really me doing it.

I think you'd say "guilt" isn't the right thing to feel. So I don't deny what happened, but I just act as if the problem has already been solved?
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So if something bad happens to someone I care about... it means it's really me doing it.

I think you'd say "guilt" isn't the right thing to feel. So I don't deny what happened, but I just act as if the problem has already been solved?
We're always putting out fires that we created. In SR you create everything, so if someone you love gets hurt even dies, it's painful becuase you're changing a fundamental part of you for a reason.

But ultimately it's a growth experience. That's why something good can always come from something painful, it's supposed to be like that because you created for a purpose.

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So if something bad happens to someone I care about... it means it's really me doing it.
Isn't it actually me doing it to myself??
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Well hopefully for a good purpose, since I have been positive and intending good things for this person all along.
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Isn't it actually me doing it to myself??
I guess so. I just hope the fire is being put out, or better yet that it's not really a fire but just appears to be one.
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I used to think "oh that sucks, what a shame for such and such" but now I take it personally (literally) so I freak out trying to find out why I DID that to someone I care for. Again, hopefully for a good purpose.
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I used to think "oh that sucks, what a shame for such and such" but now I take it personally (literally) so I freak out trying to find out why I DID that to someone I care for. Again, hopefully for a good purpose.
Freaking out means you react as a any good human bean would and while valid from that perspective, it's still buying into the victim status.

Victim status means being powerless and nobody wants that.

To quote the Matrix.........You've already made the choice, you're here to understand it.

That means your reaction is a defense and overload mechanism to something that you created purposefully, but haven't figured it out yet why, but there's no need to freak out or even worry, for you would never create something that didn't have meaning and purpose.

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Freaking out means you react as a any good human bean would and while valid from that perspective, it's still buying into the victim status.

Victim status means being powerless and nobody wants that.

Max
No I'm not powerless. It's just that what happened seems negative, and I didn't intend anything negative. No one died or anything. Maybe it's actually a really good thing. On the one hand it has POTENTIAL to bring me much closer to what I want, but on the other hand it was in a really shocking, sudden way.

Maybe cylon likes drama.
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I have imagined it's as if we're in a virtual laboratory and we're conducting experiments. As we create situations in which things go well, we think "Aha!" As our experiments go awry we think "Drat!" But it's virtual so no real damage is done
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Egoism is destructive, and ultimately self limiting.

Man can influence conditions in order to potentiate the manifestation of desired eventualities. Through choices human consciousness can influence outcomes, but the power of creation is the province of God. - David Hawkins in "The Eye of the I".
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Man can influence conditions in order to potentiate the manifestation of desired eventualities. Through choices human consciousness can influence outcomes, but the power of creation is the province of God.
I agree 100%! and that's what Max is saying
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Egoism is destructive, and ultimately self limiting.

Man can influence conditions in order to potentiate the manifestation of desired eventualities. Through choices human consciousness can influence outcomes, but the power of creation is the province of God. - David Hawkins in "The Eye of the I".
I cannot accept that a being outside of (my)self has any control. It makes the whole thing pointless, always a victim, always a puppet whenever something else chooses it to be so.

It's like believing you have all the power, but only when god says it's okay, that makes no sense on any level. Believing in a god outside of self is the ultimate victim/fear mentality.

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That means your reaction is a defense and overload mechanism to something that you created purposefully, but haven't figured it out yet why, but there's no need to freak out or even worry, for you would never create something that didn't have meaning and purpose.

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Thanks Max, I had missed this part.
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I cannot accept that a being outside of (my)self has any control. It makes the whole thing pointless, always a victim, always a puppet whenever something else chooses it to be so.

It's like believing you have all the power, but only when god says it's okay, that makes no sense on any level. Believing in a god outside of self is the ultimate victim/fear mentality.

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Manifesting of intent without an accompanied level of spiritual understanding is ultimately self destructive. Everything works on balance.
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Manifesting of intent without an accompanied level of spiritual understanding is ultimately self destructive. Everything works on balance.
The ultimate spiritual understanding is to accept that you're god, everything else is fear, denial, sacrifice and guilt.

People want to be closer to god, love like god, feel god's presence and power and make sure god is always on their side.

No one wants to be god...............why?

Fear

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Please, diverge from your current studies long enough to read this book:

Amazon.com: The Eye of the I, by David R. Hawkins Phd. M.D.: Books: David R. Hawkins

The ultimate spiritual understanding is enlightenment, and with enlightenment comes an understanding of the source energy.
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Please, diverge from your current studies long enough to read this book:

Amazon.com: The Eye of the I, by David R. Hawkins Phd. M.D.: Books: David R. Hawkins

The ultimate spiritual understanding is enlightenment, and with enlightenment comes an understanding of the source energy.
Read it and it's boring, ancient mystics, gurus and people who consider their way is the highway are always looking for disciples.

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