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10-04-2007, 02:02 PM
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 Screw it, Let's Get Rich Denial is a bunch of crap. Buy another delay.......... Ingest another blog post/book/article/DVD/seminar/course.......while all the authors make money to show you how, but all they do is show you how they got rich off you. These people, gurus, teachers, all have two things in common.... 1. Lisen to me, for I love the sound of my own voice. 2. When you do that I make money. They all do the same thing. Information is a wonderful thing, but not at the expense of the informed one...............you. I love money, money is awesome, people think money is shame, money should be hard and troublesome, but money can save a childs life.............and buy beer, lots of beer. Get Rich Quick Get Rich Quick Get Rich Quick Get Rich Quick Get Rich Quick Get Rich Quick Get Rich Quick Get Rich Quick Screw being spiritual, you're god, you can be spiritual when you're dead. The moment you think you can't be rich quick..........is the moment you believe something or someone is outside of you saying......NO.......... You're here for a good time.......not a long itme. Max Power      |
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10-04-2007, 11:39 PM
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 The only diff is that I'm already making a lot of money without my blog so I'm not really making money "off people" who read my blog. But when I do, that will be cool too. And there's nothing wrong with it. Let's all get rich.
__________________ Paul Piotrowski InspiredAffiliate.com - Me vs. Richard Bonner Competition & Contest How to Make Money Doing What You Love |
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10-06-2007, 07:25 PM
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| I believe that getting rich quick is the ONLY way to get rich and be young enough to enjoy it. If you earn 100 grand a year, it will take 10 years to earn a million (and most earn less, so 50 grand will take 20 years, and a million isn't what it used to be by a long shot), but most of that will most likely be spent along the way, especially when you have a family. You can get rich slow through investing and retire rich, and then spend the money on nursing homes and medical bills because you're too old to do what you used to do. The wealthiest people I know were all wealthy before they were 35, and I'm talking about millionaires and multimillionaires; one in particular. So, don't ever throw away the idea of getting rich quick. It's really the only way, and quick doesn't mean instantly. 5 or 10 years is relatively quick to be debt free with enough positive cash flow to live on. |
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10-06-2007, 07:35 PM
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 2-5 years is totally doable. Anytime I've made money it's been pretty fast. I think the whole "become a millionaire" while making $30k/year and saving every penny you make by being super cheap is such a crappy ass, slow way to build wealth and I don't know anyone who it's actually worked for.
__________________ Paul Piotrowski InspiredAffiliate.com - Me vs. Richard Bonner Competition & Contest How to Make Money Doing What You Love |
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10-06-2007, 08:53 PM
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It got better and better, and within a year, I had WAY more than doubled my income, and worked when I chose (which sometimes meant pulling 30 hour shifts, but who wouldn't for 4 or 5 grand??). The only bosses I had were my customers, and I treated them like gold, which made the whole thing enjoyable I had to go back to work for someone (long story, but let's just say I needed better insurance than I could get being self employed at the time), but I definitely want to go self employed again when I'm able. I'm just not sure what I want to do. Once you work for yourself, it's tough to go back to work for someone else. |
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10-06-2007, 09:55 PM
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| I am wealth. I create everything, including all the wealth in this world. I simply need to accept that, and allow it into my perception/awareness. |
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10-06-2007, 10:17 PM
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| Why either work for a long time or work hard for a short time? Check out 4 Hour Workweek: The 4-Hour Workweek and Timothy Ferriss 30 minute speech by author giving overview of the book at south by southwest: http://audio.sxsw.com/podcast/intera...urWorkweek.mp3
__________________ Mind-Manual "Pure hell forces action, but anything less can be endured with enough clever rationalization." - Tim Ferriss |
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10-07-2007, 03:57 AM
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__________________ Paul Piotrowski InspiredAffiliate.com - Me vs. Richard Bonner Competition & Contest How to Make Money Doing What You Love |
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10-07-2007, 04:30 AM
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| The wealthy have introduced religions to all societies to tame the masses (you) into thinking money is the root of evil. So you stay in your mediocre job that make the rich richer and never become a challenge or a threat to them. Think of all the tons of poisonous fuel it is spent everyday to move people to their mediocre, underpaid jobs. Is it REALLY worthy? RELIGIONS are government tools whose primary duty it is to prevent you achieving your dreams, there are not invented to make you happier but to make you obedient. Now you might understand why you are not rich. Undo the proccess.
__________________ The Only Way To Get Rich From A Get-Rich Book Is To Write One. |
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10-07-2007, 06:39 AM
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That's not true. I've built wealth and I can attribute a very large part of it to the books I've read, and I didn't build wealth by selling books.
__________________ Paul Piotrowski InspiredAffiliate.com - Me vs. Richard Bonner Competition & Contest How to Make Money Doing What You Love |
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10-07-2007, 07:56 AM
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Look, as long as you carry this kind of anger at wealthy people and blame others who have more for perceived lack in your reality, you are enslaved, but not by anyone else. Nobody keeps anything from you except you. As long as you believe this theory is truth, you will be required to live under the laws of your own beliefs. |
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10-09-2007, 02:14 PM
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| [quote=torilink;118463As long as you believe this theory is truth, you will be required to live under the laws of your own beliefs.[/QUOTE] I asked the universe to let me know everything there is to know, and my post is one of the answers I received regarding wealth. Itīs great to think that we create our reality but letīs not get too delusional... .
__________________ The Only Way To Get Rich From A Get-Rich Book Is To Write One. |
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10-09-2007, 03:10 PM
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| Making money and getting rich (the honest way) happens when you contribute to society, in a big big way. It is about giving and then getting. You are right, the gurus are making money off your book or video purchase. Why don't they just hire secretaries to do what they are asking you to do and make the money themselves? They may tell us that they want to help you or mankind, which is a load of bull. Also this whole crap about you only spending 3 hours a week and getting rich is a load as well. The only way you can do this, is if you have the money in the first place. Your investments and assets would be doing the work for you. |
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10-09-2007, 03:17 PM
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| I think the lines seem to be drawn between those who believe in more of an outside god, and those who believe they are god. Those who believe God is outside them, speak in terms of karma, or doing good deeds to get a reward, like they are being judged and will be rewarded properly if it's in the service of others. I guess it depends on what you mean by "contribute to society". Many people who may not appear to contribute to society, make plenty of money. |
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10-09-2007, 04:50 PM
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is it more delusional to think wealthy people are out to get you and enslave you or to believe the outside world is a reflection of your inner world? Yours is a fear based projection of your beliefs. Mine is the acceptance of responsiblity for everything I believe. |
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10-09-2007, 05:17 PM
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| Begging the universe for money seems so crazy to me. When I saw the secret movie with the jewels in the window - I didn't see any sparkles I saw pure greed and need with most of the profits going to the authors / producers / DVD people / wealth creation scammers / LOA teachers. I have seen people being psychologically coached to overcome 'manifestation issues' where the guru has total control over the problem and the solution and you will always be thankful with an atitude of gratitude. It's the perfect marketing mix for exploitation. |
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10-10-2007, 12:29 AM
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| [quote=Amadeus;119069]Making money and getting rich (the honest way) happens when you contribute to society, in a big big way. QUOTE] I don't buy that, it's a victim fear based enslaving ideal. On a spiritual level you are in a constant state of giving, you are bestowal. Giving loads of worth to attract a reward is the most self limiting delusion I can think of and entirely fear based and brought about by the brainwashing of a society obsessed with denial of self creative power. If it were true then every person who worked their butts off their entire lives would be millionaires, but most die with unfulfilled dreams and goals because of the lack of money. You should extremely wealthy right now from working very little with minimum effort, anything is fear, denial and brainwashing. Max |
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10-10-2007, 01:07 AM
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10-10-2007, 01:42 AM
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| Ha!!! This is the second time today a billion dollars has been mentioned in my awareness... Thanks, jdiddy
__________________ Mungham Development - Web Design, Multimedia & I.T. Solutions Intelligent Substance - The stuff that everything is made of... |
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10-10-2007, 05:03 AM
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I agree that there should be no asking or begging the "Universe" for anything, that is the same as begging "God" or casting a "Spell" to get something you desire. It is projecting your manifesting power onto something outside yourself instead of taking responsibility for it. I believe that I don't exist IN the "Universe" - the Universe exists within me, I give to myself or sometimes withold, depending upon my beliefs and desires, but I believe it is always a direct result of my desire, thoughts, and beliefs. |
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10-27-2007, 03:48 AM
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| Max Weakness No offense Max, but you are still a child, and have a lot of living and life to learn. You can't give enough without getting back much more in return. The more you take the more that will be taken from you. It's a univeral law in my opinion. I liken The Earth and the people who live on it like cells in a human body. Every cell has different functions (brain, liver, skin, etc. etc.). They all serve a purpose for the overall health of the human body. Each human being serves a different function on the overall health of the Earth. If a person starts being more of a taker than a giver I liken them to cancer. Eventually the cancer will die off by self destruction (every human body has dormant cancer cells), be removed by healthy cells, or eventually destroy the entire organism. A cell that continues to contribute to the entire body will not destroy itself by giving more. Again, it is a universal law. |
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10-27-2007, 06:15 AM
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| A lot of our 'modern life' hails back to the days when the serfs and plebs were slogging their guts out, providing the wealthy with food and entertainment and sex. Have a read of the lingo and antiquity in constitutions and law. My town, Port Lincoln, has more millionaires per capita than any where in Australia. I know heaps of them. A lot of them would die before giving a cent to anyone, let alone charity. Not a cent, sorry, not even a scrap. They would throw it away first. One of the most wealthy guy's is one of the most ruthless people I have ever met. Even is own family is a resource, used, discarded, and shattered at will. And his belief is honed from years of dealing with a corrupt communist regime. He escaped from a concentration camp, from the firing squad, like many of his friends there, and he believes dog eat dog, so be the biggest, meanest dog. And he's left a trail of eaten, chewed dogs in his path, as he gets richer, and richer, and richer. I have my beliefs, I think that there is plenty to go round, that abundance is only limited by our imagination. Before money was invented, what...no abundance? We are so trapped by the idea, the invention of money, its like it is more powerfull than say, the sun, a freebie. I notice what it is in that ruthless guy, that seperates him from his rivals, some who have identical dog eat dog beliefs, but who aren't anywhere near as rich. Also I notice what it is that seperates the wealthy millionaires that are really good people, thoughtfull, caring people, and some of who escaped the identical situation along with the ruthless guy. You hear it over and over, but they are genuinely fearless. They don't hesitate to borrow to the hilt to back themselves, to chuck it all on the line. The interest they pay in a year is more than most people will ever earn. And they seek out wisdom. Many people won't take advice, or can't stand anyone more successfull. These guys seek them out. Hunt them down. But, what stands out most to me is absolutely, unbelievably deluxe imaginations. Ideas that other people think are crazy. You've probably heard of Makybe Diva. The owner was a tuna fisherman, a really nice guy, and like his mates, loved a punt. One day he realised he loved horse racing, and was sick of giving other people his money, so decided he would get his own horse. The other guys thought he was crazy. He bought some super expensive duds, and was the joke of the tuna boys. Then he sought out the real gun, the best trainer, and went looking for the ultimate horse. When they came across Diva, no one else wanted her...no one wanted her, but the gun urged him to grab her, cheap, that there was something special there. So he did, amidst the howls of laughter. She is Australia's most legendary race horse, shattering records. He now earns so much money through her, that his unbelievable tuna earnings are like pocket money. To take a punt, and mate a stallion with her costs more than most people can ima |