What happens when an "Advanced Manifester" focuses on negativity...

[impaul99]

I don't want to go into details yet, but I'm working on a project. Part of this project, I had to do some role-playing in my head to think from a negative perspective and write certain things down.

THen, I ended up going to 7/11 to grab something. While I was there, the cashier turned super irritated/negative all of a sudden because the man behind me was on a cell phone. She said "One day I'm going to talk to this company and I'm going to make it so that we can refuse to serve customers who are on their cell phones. So rude!"

It totally cought me off guard cuz I was thinking "Isn't saying what you just said really loud rude? Uhhh....anyways."

So I'm in my car in the parking lot and I'm thinking about these "Battles" that people feel they must fight in their lives, always seeing something "Wrong" with the world. She most likely will never do anything about it, but she said it with such negative energy that I could tell it made her blood boil.

Anyways, just for fun, I decided to experiment and try to see the world through the eyes of a person like that, who continuously sees "crap" wherever they go.

OH MY GOD. I couldn't believe it. It was only a 7 or 8 minute drive from there back to my office, but there was SO MUCH CRAP out there. Like I'm talking about people cutting people off in traffic, cutting corners and going into my lane, I saw a woman yank a kid by the arm because he was going to run into traffic, I saw cars parked sideways (illegally), pulling into my parking lot I ran into someone really irritating I haven't seen for 2 years, and when I got back to my seat someone told me my wife has been trying to get a hold of me. When I called her I found out she won't be making dinner tonight because she has to babysit for someone.

I had to stop, cleanse, re-positivetize myself because I was attracting bad mojo WAY TOO QUICKLY. I don't want a meteor to hit our offices next.

Conclusion: Once you get to a level of intention manifestation where you can create stuff pretty quickly, you don't get the privilidge of allowing your mind to be negative anymore. If you do, you'll create bad stuff way too quickly in your life, so you have to be "responsible" with this "power".

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Conclusion: Once you get to a level of intention manifestation where you can create stuff pretty quickly, you don't get the privilidge of allowing your mind to be negative anymore. If you do, you'll create bad stuff way too quickly in your life, so you have to be "responsible" with this "power"

It's funny because we don't think we're doing the instant manifestation thing 24/7, but we are, we just don't notice it because it's.......instantly happening. Time doesn't really exist, because it's just one moment and everything is contained, created and perceived in that moment.

The word moment is probably not the best word because it seems to be fleeting, a better description would be constant perception.

It's amazing what you are capable of when you look around and say "I'm creating this right now" once you start saying it, you realise everything is created by you right now, even the body you are using to observe creation/perception.

Max

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Conclusion: Once you get to a level of intention manifestation where you can create stuff pretty quickly, you don't get the privilidge of allowing your mind to be negative anymore. If you do, you'll create bad stuff way too quickly in your life, so you have to be "responsible" with this "power".

Nobody has this privilege. we're constantly creating stuff pretty quickly, all of us. Getting better at I-M means creating more stuff we want. But we're creating all the time just as quickly as you did. That's why so much crap happens to negative people, reinforcing their negativity as long as they don't take responsibility for it.

[impaul99]

Yup, it's just that I know a LONG time ago I could afford to have negative thoughts and they didn't seem to manifest so quickly. Today, just connecting to that way of thinking even if I just pretend starts to manifest stuff so quickly.

Hmmmm...maybe it's always been like this, it's just that I am more aware of it all now. Meaning, when you're used to "good stuff" happening all the time, it's such a contrast when "crap happens" non stop for even 15 minutes.

Hmmmmmmm... if I'm able to manifest stuff SO QUICKLY just by consciously focusing on the negative, perhaps my "default" state of mind is not as positive as I thought it was, because I should be drawing in much more, much quicker than I am. Time for a mental check up!

[Uplift]

I had radically abusive parents, and got relentlessly hammered, despite totally excelling at school, sports, whatever. In my early teens, when I started to play basketball for the top club in the country, it was supposed to be a big deal, and was, but bingo, my coach is a rampant, expert, paedophile. I finally figured out how to escape. I left school and changed clubs. Bingo, my first boss is a closet paedophile. After he tried his stuff, I finally thought, complain. The result was I was stuck in a ridiculously abusive work situation for ages. I started to think I was the worlds most unlucky person, or that the world was war, so time to stop mucking around and really go to war. Later I learned about thoughts and creation and turned it all around, creating a whole new life. I had to try to learn a lot about the unconscious thoughts too, and still am. And Spirit.

I can see how a trusting, really creative, open, child mind, which I think is probably the ideal state for attracting and creating, can be driven, or conditioned to create negatively, with corresponding results.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

But we're creating all the time just as quickly as you did. That's why so much crap happens to negative people, reinforcing their negativity as long as they don't take responsibility for it.

That doesn't really explain why negative stuff happens.

If you subscribe to the theory to that we are all mainfesting our reality at the same time, then it's a victims mentality and we can never be sure when we have control/responsibility and when we don't.

You have an intention and I have an intention for the same thing, who wins? You because you were more positive, me because I intended better, you because you used more emotion, me because I am better at IM? None of this makes any sense, it's the ultimate cop out.......I can have whatever I want as long as no one blocks it or if I do a better job of using LoA.

I don't buy it.

Max

PS I always right from a collective POV, but I never believe it is that.

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by Max Power

It's funny because we don't think we're doing the instant manifestation thing 24/7, but we are, we just don't notice it because it's.......instantly happening. Time doesn't really exist, because it's just one moment and everything is contained, created and perceived in that moment.

The word moment is probably not the best word because it seems to be fleeting, a better description would be constant perception.

It's amazing what you are capable of when you look around and say "I'm creating this right now" once you start saying it, you realise everything is created by you right now, even the body you are using to observe creation/perception.

Max

I have a question relating to your statement and would like your opinion...

Not to take the thread off topic, it's along the lines of being an advanced manifester (this we know everyone already is), but actually being consciously aware of it...

O.k. so my question is... What do you think of partial notice-ability, meaning partially seeing / noticing what your manifesting (catching a glimpse), as an example about a week or two ago I was out mowing the lawn, and my neighbor two doors down has one of those c-band satellite dishes (the big ones) in her back yard (she's like 80 and probably isn't using it anymore). I got to thinking I'd like one of those to just tinker around on, kind of see what's being broadcast. Anyway, like a week later a friend of mine we're out and about, and he casually mentions (out of the blue) he saw one over by his house with a sign on it that basically said just take it. Now, this happens like all the time (these types of things) my question is, it wasn't necessarily "instant" in the terms of this thread, but the manifestation does happen.

I have seen "instant" manifestation in my life before, at the time it was so overwhelming it kinda scared me (but that is another story).

So, I'm wondering is this a limitation I'm putting on my self...? Or am I just not "awake" to the fact this is happening all the time, well i'm kind of aware but not able to "see" all of it yet...?

Am I making any sense...?

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Lil Chris

I have seen "instant" manifestation in my life before, at the time it was so overwhelming it kinda scared me (but that is another story).

So, I'm wondering is this a limitation I'm putting on my self...? Or am I just not "awake" to the fact this is happening all the time, well i'm kind of aware but not able to "see" all of it yet...?

Am I making any sense...?

Absolutely. You are using the illusion of time to "pad" the manifestations so that they don't overwhelm you. Think of it this way. You're mowing that lawn, you already have the day sorta planned out, imagine that the SECOND you think about the satelite your old neighbour screams out "HEY, YOUNG MAN, COME OVER I WANT TO GIVE YOU THIS SATELLITE DISH!" I mean it would be cool, but you probably wouldn't be so interested in it anymore. You might start thinking...."Hmm...wait a minute... if I just manifested this instantly, why don't I just manifest myself a brand new satellite dish!" and POOF that happens and then you'd be like "Hmmm...screw that, instead of watching Football on the dish I want to be AT the game" POOF "Screw that, I want to be a football player" POOF etc. You get the point.

Instant manifestation like that is definitely possible, however I find that in my life it always arrives in such a way so that it doesn't "break my reality".

Meaning, you got the satellite dish you wanted, but you're still not 100% if it was you who manifested it. This "unsureness", keeps you asleep in this world. If you manifested stuff like POOF and there it is, you'd "wake up".

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Lil Chris

I have a question relating to your statement and would like your opinion...

Not to take the thread off topic, it's along the lines of being an advanced manifester (this we know everyone already is), but actually being consciously aware of it...

O.k. so my question is... What do you think of partial notice-ability, meaning partially seeing / noticing what your manifesting (catching a glimpse), as an example about a week or two ago I was out mowing the lawn, and my neighbor two doors down has one of those c-band satellite dishes (the big ones) in her back yard (she's like 80 and probably isn't using it anymore). I got to thinking I'd like one of those to just tinker around on, kind of see what's being broadcast. Anyway, like a week later a friend of mine we're out and about, and he casually mentions (out of the blue) he saw one over by his house with a sign on it that basically said just take it. Now, this happens like all the time (these types of things) my question is, it wasn't necessarily "instant" in the terms of this thread, but the manifestation does happen.

I have seen "instant" manifestation in my life before, at the time it was so overwhelming it kinda scared me (but that is another story).

So, I'm wondering is this a limitation I'm putting on my self...? Or am I just not "awake" to the fact this is happening all the time, well i'm kind of aware but not able to "see" all of it yet...?

Am I making any sense...?

Paul's right...........there's no fun in being god, so self limitation is the solution.

Sure, you'll build a reality to give yourself something to do during the day, but when you push the IM button purposefully, sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't, it's not broken, it just has a partial lock on it that you installed for self limitation.

It's a frustrating lock, but it can be greased up and manipulated

Max

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Paul's right...........there's no fun in being god, so self limitation is the solution.

Sure, you'll build a reality to give yourself something to do during the day, but when you push the IM button purposefully, sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't, it's not broken, it just has a partial lock on it that you installed for self limitation.

It's a frustrating lock, but it can be greased up and manipulated

Max

You know what would be cool? Creating yourself an IM day where everything manifests spontaneously. So lets say tomorrow morning you wake up and until midnight that day you have full manifestation rights. However at midnight you fall asleep and wake up the next morning and it's that same morning again and you don't remember anything that happened, so your reality didn't actually break. Or you just think it was a crazy dream. Perhaps, just as a tease, you find an object from your IM day at some point in the future.

That'd be fun.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Yup, it's just that I know a LONG time ago I could afford to have negative thoughts and they didn't seem to manifest so quickly. Today, just connecting to that way of thinking even if I just pretend starts to manifest stuff so quickly.

Hmmmm...maybe it's always been like this, it's just that I am more aware of it all now. Meaning, when you're used to "good stuff" happening all the time, it's such a contrast when "crap happens" non stop for even 15 minutes.

Hmmmmmmm... if I'm able to manifest stuff SO QUICKLY just by consciously focusing on the negative, perhaps my "default" state of mind is not as positive as I thought it was, because I should be drawing in much more, much quicker than I am. Time for a mental check up!

Yeah, I think it's your awareness that has increased. Everybody manifests instantly. And we get to see the reflection of what we're not conscious of in others around us. (angry clerk = oh, I guess I got some anger inside I'm not expressing)

I think we get a bigger emotional opening out of 'bad' stuff than 'good' stuff and that's why it's quite easy to downward spiral ourselves so quickly. We create a bigger opening for the 'bad' stuff. I put quotes around those because good/bad is a polarity, and polarities don't exist, except in my mind.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by impaul99

You know what would be cool? Creating yourself an IM day where everything manifests spontaneously.

Hmmm. Everything DOES manifest spontaneously, including hiding your manifestations from yourself. I am a master at hiding that which I create. Think about that. How does that angle change things?

And I think we as people focus on the lack instead of the thing/event we want. The experience of lack (what isn't) is another manifestation and our focus determines what we see in the reflection (the manifested world).

[RT Wolf]

That's an interesting point you're making about negative manifestations seeming to be more powerful than positive ones, cause this is also something that's in The Intention Experiment, which I'm reading right now.

My pet theory on this is that the more we feel oneness with the feeling or what we are trying to create, the better, and negativity has a way of creating a oneness with you that can be hard to resist. You just become negativity, almost become its channel, while I'd imagine unless you're already in that state, getting to a state where you are essentially joy is harder to do.

Our sense of seperateness from everything does seem to limit manifestation ability.

That's a very interesting point Dharma made about hiding our manifestations from ourselves. Sometimes I imagine (this was an image from Ask and It is Given) a doorway, on the other side of which is everything I want. That door is resistance, and I imagine myself opening the door and letting the stuff I want in.

[Boby]

Well I think everything you wrote was right, but here is what my common sense denyes:
If you think about 1 kg gold appearing in front of yourself, that's impossible to happpen. The same thing for standing up and flying.
Or if you you think of an earthquake and it happens...

The idea of LoA is good, but there is no solid evidence.
For example, if create a business, and earn lots of money, what causes them to appear?
Your creativity and actions or the Law of Attraction's manifest?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Boby

If you think about 1 kg gold appearing in front of yourself, that's impossible to happpen.

If you think it's impossible, then of course it's impossible .... for you. That merely goes to show that the Law of Attraction works.



Wikipedia: Yogi Pullavar's Levitation

[cylon]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Conclusion: Once you get to a level of intention manifestation where you can create stuff pretty quickly, you don't get the privilidge of allowing your mind to be negative anymore. If you do, you'll create bad stuff way too quickly in your life, so you have to be "responsible" with this "power".

Yesterday I was at work and the owner had done something in keeping with his character. A couple of my co-workers were complaining about it, but I've had it with giving other people too much significance in my life. People act like they are working for an abusive boss because that's the only option in life they have.

I sort of snapped. I said to them "I am getting really tired of everyone talking about the owner (myself included) all the time like he's some all-powerful being. He has always been like this and he always will be. All complaining about him does is make YOU more miserable. There are other jobs in this world. There are other bosses in this world. He is one person out of billions. He is nothing. He's about this big in the grand scheme of things (I put my hand just above the floor). All of us are still here. He's nothing but a bully. Stop giving him power to make you feel like crap."

They shut up and it was awkward for awhile but towards the end of the day we were all friendly again. I felt fine about it, though I can't believe I did that... but it's like Paul said, I my tolerance for negativity is getting much smaller.

[JMononoetoe]

Originally Posted by Boby

For example, if create a business, and earn lots of money, what causes them to appear?
Your creativity and actions or the Law of Attraction's manifest?

Those two things are not very different. In fact, they go hand in hand. People often put the Law Of Attraction on the same level as actions, creativity and what not, as if it's a tool you can use sometimes and something that is seperate from all other things.

In fact you're saying the same thing twice. The Law Of Attraction doesn't necessarily work primarily with physical things like money. I think the Law Of Attraction is all about intent, and can come to us in any physical or non-physical form.

So you want to have a succesful business. You would say, creativity and actions makes the money appear. But what makes the creativity and actions appear? It is intent, and so you have manifested using the Law Of Attraction.

That's what I think anyway.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

That's why so much crap happens to negative people, reinforcing their negativity as long as they don't take responsibility for it.

Crap happens to innocent people too and sometimes it's caused by positive people, quite innocently of course.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by impaul99

I don't want to go into details yet, but I'm working on a project.
Part of this project, I had to do some role-playing in my head to think from a negative perspective and write certain things down.

Conclusion: Once you get to a level of intention manifestation where you can create stuff pretty quickly, you don't get the privilidge of allowing your mind to be negative anymore. If you do, you'll create bad stuff way too quickly in your life, so you have to be "responsible" with this "power".

Right.

Believing, feeling, thinking, acting negative , let alone manifest-negatively too many in the world are stuck in such traps.
Avoid that at all cost!

You've got better activities to spend your attention on, I'm sure!

[bluedragon]

In time I started getting the feeling that there is more involved in the manifestation process. For me, thinking negatively doesn't produce negative results, as long as I am clear at a deeper level as to what I really want. I am very conscious of what I want, and I can feel the connection between how I think and how things are turning up. Sometimes I can't decide myself that I want things to go well and smooth, so they don't. The moment I "open the door" for them, they work out magically. But sometimes I think I've become conscious that we also need to manifest some suffering to grow. Or maybe we don't.. I'm still working on that one. However, I could never manifest negativity around me, since I only wish the best for others (except if somebody were to really annoy me momentarily : )

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Wikipedia: Yogi Pullavar's Levitation

Secret Behind Indian Guru Levitation Revealed | Weird Asia News

I'd like to see him do it without the stick and tents.

[pyrogen]

impaul99,

The best thing I ever heard was what this one Sikh cab driver did. He was my regular cab driver in the town I lived in, and I took the cab a lot - I got to know his family. He looked like Santa Claus with a turban. very, very, nice guy.

Whenever someone irritated him or cut him off in traffic he'd say "God bless you!". Mind you, sometimes, he'd wave his hand and sound like he really meant "F___ you". But it was the greatest response to anything I ever heard.

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by Boby

If you think about 1 kg gold appearing in front of yourself, that's impossible to happpen.

You've obviously never found a 20 dollar bill on the street.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

You've obviously never found a 20 dollar bill on the street.

That happened to me on by birthday, last year. I was in an amazing mood before hand though.

[SuavePlaya]

It makes me laugh when people call themselves an advance manifester. I don't know if you know that everyone is manifesting something every second, which makes us all advanced manifesters.

[justinf77]

Originally Posted by SuavePlaya

It makes me laugh when people call themselves an advance manifester. I don't know if you know that everyone is manifesting something every second, which makes us all advanced manifesters.

I assume an advanced IMer would be someone who has greater control over their mind than the average Joe.

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by pyrogen

You've obviously never found a 20 dollar bill on the street.

What are you saying? Do you think finding a 20 dollar bill on the street the same thing as manifesting a gold bar instantly on your desk?

Boby, next time someone tells you that nothing is impossible if you believe, ask them to fly away. None of them will (at least not yet in my experience), and many will make up some great excuse why they won't. It boils down to the fact that they don't really believe what they are saying.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Secret Behind Indian Guru Levitation Revealed | Weird Asia News

I'd like to see him do it without the stick and tents.

Oh, there are a few others who reportedly did it without the stick and tents. Daniel Dunglas Home, Jesus Christ, Gautama Buddha, Catherine of Siena, St Joseph of Cupertino, Shirdi Sai Baba etc.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

What are you saying? Do you think finding a 20 dollar bill on the street the same thing as manifesting a gold bar instantly on your desk?

Closest example I can think of is Sathya Sai Baba. He manifests instant stuff regularly.

There used to be an Australia poster around here (his nick was Uplift) who had travelled all the way to India to see Sai Baba. Uplift reported witnessing several miracles personally. You might want to use the search engine to look for those posts.

Sai Baba also cured a relative of mine of schizophrenia, by touching his forehead. This relative had been suffering for more than a decade but was certified normal by a psychiatrist, following check-ups after his return from India.

My mother (a retired nurse) knows a doctor who travelled to India to see Sai Baba too. Sai Baba gave him a present. Sai Baba manifested a watch that the doctor had lost, several weeks before the doctor had travelled to India. Sai Baba returned the watch to the doctor right then.

But these are stories for another time. I can sense some people's skeptometers hitting bursting point already.

By the way, you too can travel to India to meet Sai Baba. Tens of thousands of people from different countries all over the world do that every year. Sai Baba is fond of performing little miracles which have meaning for you, and you alone, which no one else in the audience will understand. Like, when he returned that watch to the doctor, no one in the audience except the doctor would have known that the watch that the doctor had previously lost. When he touched my uncle's head and cured him, no one in the audience except my uncle would have known about my uncle's history of mental illness.

Uplift has more stories. As mentioned, do use the search engine if you're interested.

Truth is that the world is very strange. There are many things happening in it that are waaay behind the conventional understanding of us little humans.

[Daffy Duck]

It's interesting that most reports of levitation are from the past where we can not witness them. It's also interesting that Sai Baba will not let himself be observed in a controlled experiment. Also, the fact that Sai Baba "has repeatedly belittled the internet and discouraged its use" alone makes me question him!

Many of his miracles mentioned could easily be performed by Penn & Teller, two famous illusionists who are also well-known skeptics.

The story of your uncle is interesting, but I do wonder if schizophrenia can be cured by a strong belief in a miracle. In other words, the placebo effect. Now before anyone criticizes my knowledge of psychology -- please note that even many psychologists could think the same thing.

However, it's entirely possible that Sai Baba is performing true miracles. I wouldn't say for sure either way. I'm Agnostic about most mysteries in life, although I do tend to lean more on the "Realist" side of things. There is no doubt many mysteries to life, so much so that I don't think all of the theories we have (including New Age We Are All One and so on) even come close to the ultimate truth. But being the agnostic-minded guy that I am -- who knows for sure! I'm just here to have a good time, that's all I know for sure.

I'll search for Uplift. Sounds interesting. Thanks.

I wonder why it says he was banned... seems like an interesting poster.