The perfect book for taking massive action

[Zukin]

For everyone who always talks about "massive action" and "hard work" here's a good book to read:



Personally, I like this one better:

[Max Power]

It's a mindset rather than a rule or law. People fear doing very little as unworthy. Society teaches us to work hard, have less time and fill our lives with shiney stuff that we never use. Until we change our mindset about what level of work we want to do, then we'll always be slaves.

People always look to their skill set to decide what work to do and that usually means working hard, because skill sets are usually about manual labor. Manual labor is fine if you can create and levearge that creation, like writing a book or creating something once and sellig it multiple times.

I wonder if the authors of the books got rich doing something or writing about doing something.

Max

[Dan.Linehan]

They're called yellow cowboy boots for a reason.

[impaul99]

I didn't know Shamou wore yellow cowboy boots. Neato.



j/k

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by impaul99

I didn't know Shamou wore yellow cowboy boots. Neato.



j/k

That's why he got banned, he was working to hard

Max

[Sam988]

I just read this on Forbes... interviews on many subjects with 20 self-made billionaires. I didn't count, but most of them said that hard work played a big role on their success.

Secrets Of The Self-Made 2007 - Forbes.com


Of course, you guys must know better than those dumb billionaires who know nothing about life who worked so hard to get it instead of just sitting and waiting for the money to come through their window, right?

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Sam988

I just read this on Forbes... interviews on many subjects with 20 self-made billionaires. I didn't count, but most of them said that hard work played a big role on their success.

Secrets Of The Self-Made 2007 - Forbes.com


Of course, you guys must know better than those dumb billionaires who know nothing about life who worked so hard to get it instead of just sitting and waiting for the money to come through their window, right?

I don't believe their version of hard work is the same as the average person. Board meetings, flying around the country and raising VC money is hardly digging holes in the road.

No one is saying that work is not a requirement on some level, but the point is effort versus reward. Get rich quick is want everyone truly wants, but it's frowned upon as wrong.

Get rich quick or get rich slow.....give me get rich quick everytime.

Max

[Zukin]

I really enjoy the Forbes rich list every year, but it has a really bad case of survivorship bias and it doesn't control for independent variables very well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_variable

I'm sure there are lots of people who work very hard but don't have very much to show for it, so there must be a set of variables that are positively correlated with success. It's hard to know which things have a greater than average chance of improving a person's chances of getting rich without comparing them to an equal set of people who are poor and seeing what the differences are.

Even if you believe in an objective reality where thoughts don't affect outcomes, successful people are measurably more positive and optimistic and spend more time thinking about what they want.

(and yes, I know it's ironic that I'm discussing statistical biases after talking about wacky ideas like thoughts creating reality)

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by Max Power

I don't believe their version of hard work is the same as the average person. Board meetings, flying around the country and raising VC money is hardly digging holes in the road.

Yes, but you forget that they didn't start this way; they worked very hard to get to the point they are now.

Originally Posted by Max Power

No one is saying that work is not a requirement on some level, but the point is effort versus reward. Get rich quick is want everyone truly wants, but it's frowned upon as wrong.

Get rich quick or get rich slow.....give me get rich quick everytime.

Max

I agree with you Max, if we believe we can get rich quick we have more chances of getting it, and i'm glad you recognize that action is required, even if only to some extent. But sometimes to get rich quicker we have to work as hard as we can.

And i now came to the conclusion that hard work can be thought of in two ways; smart hard work, when you're working with a purpose to actually make money (like owning a business, investing,...) and dumb hard work, when you just work to "pay the bills, not starve to death, maybe even afford the luxury to own a good house and a nice car, even if it means drowning in debt". Maybe that's why we aren't reaching an agreement, because you see hard work as my last example, of a person working, working, and not accumulating wealth, while i see it as working very hard/intensively in your business/investing.

[impaul99]

How about this. Instead of saying building wealth requires working hard, say building wealther requires lots of energy.



I'll agree to that.

Different people expend energy in different ways. Physical action is not the only way that works.

[Acting Like Godot]

Well, it's almost 6 pm in my time zone, folks. I shall be leaving at 6 pm, get home, go jogging, shower, play with the kids, have dinner, maybe play my guitar or read a nice book, make love with my wife before we both fall asleep.

Seven years ago, when I was a lawyer, 8:30 pm is about the time I'd pop out of office for a quick dinner. After dinner, it's straight back to the office, and work till 11:30 pm or even later. Get home after midnight, feeling zonked and very stressed out over work, and with no time for anything except fall asleep. Wake up the next morning, and it's the same drill again.

My monthly salary today is 6.5 times what it was, seven years ago.

I do not prefer hard work.

[Uplift]

The story of the California gold rush is interesting. Most people slogged their guts out and made next to nothing. The guy that ended up with most of the combined miners gold, came up with the idea to sell all the mining gear to them for their gold...after hyping up and promoting the frenzy.

[Phil Parkinson]

The guy on the first cover looks ridiculous... the title of the second book is ridiculous x

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Well, it's almost 6 pm in my time zone, folks. I shall be leaving at 6 pm, get home, go jogging, shower, play with the kids, have dinner, maybe play my guitar or read a nice book, make love with my wife before we both fall asleep.

Seven years ago, when I was a lawyer, 8:30 pm is about the time I'd pop out of office for a quick dinner. After dinner, it's straight back to the office, and work till 11:30 pm or even later. Get home after midnight, feeling zonked and very stressed out over work, and with no time for anything except fall asleep. Wake up the next morning, and it's the same drill again.

My monthly salary today is 6.5 times what it was, seven years ago.

I do not prefer hard work.

You too? My schedule at one point was - 9am-5pm, meet wife for dinner at a restaurant, back to work at 7pm, work till midnight, run to corner store with co-workers to get some coffee and sugar/snacks, back to work till around 5am or 6am, go home, sleep till noon, work at 1pm, 5pm go for dinner, back at 7am ..." I worked Mon-Sat for a long time. Sunday was my day off where I spent most of it working anyways.

Never did make any money, until I read The Science of Getting Rich and totally changed everything.

**Edit: People who believe that hard work is the secret to success - have you ever tried working 100+hours/week for an extended period of time?

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by impaul99

**Edit: People who believe that hard work is the secret to success - have you ever tried working 100+hours/week for an extended period of time?

As i said before, hard work alone won't do it, the person must have a goal and a strategy to build wealth. I won't explain my concept of hard work again since i already explained it in my previous post.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Sam988

As i said before, hard work alone won't do it, the person must have a goal and a strategy to build wealth. I won't explain my concept of hard work again since i already explained it in my previous post.

No that's what I mean. Have you built wealth by having a goal and a strategy to build wealth and then working hard?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Sam988

As i said before, hard work alone won't do it, the person must have a goal and a strategy to build wealth.

Sure. The standard strategy for a junior lawyer to earn more wealth is to work very, very, very hard so that he can become a senior partner in the law firm one day.

And the senior partner's strategy to earn more wealth is to work just as hard as he did when he was a junior lawyer.

I do not prefer hard work. Heheheh.

[ZHereford]

@ Acting Like Godit

What do you do for a living now?

@ max

What do you do for a living Max?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by ZHereford

@ Acting Like Godot

What do you do for a living now?

I work in investment banking. Investment banking hours can also be horrid - however I manifested a nice little niche area in investment banking where the hours are very reasonable. More importantly, because I now understand the Law of Attraction, I regularly hold my thoughts in positive ways, and over time consistently generate positive working conditions and situations at work for myself.

In fact, if you click on the link below, go to my blog and search for the word "park", you'll see that during the working week, I often take long lunches to go off to a little park near my office, to sit down by myself and manifest intentions .....

Imagine the right people with the right skills and knowledge, appearing at the right time and place to help you, when you need help.

Imagine the non-existence of difficult bosses, colleagues or clients in your working life, because you refuse to think about them and therefore they cannot appear in your reality.

Imagine instead that you always get a nice, appreciative, understanding boss ... friendly, cooperative colleagues .... and so on.

Imagine that the resources you need at work will spontaneously show up when needed, either in your inbox, or in your in-tray, or on your desk, without you having to hunt for them or make half a dozen phone calls for help or go hunting through electronic databases ....

Imagine that you're working on a complex project, and there are 12 possible ways for it to go wrong, and only 1 seemingly impossible way for it to go right ... but the universe twists and turns and manoeuvres sharply .... to make sure that the 12 possible ways to go wrong become impossible, and the seemingly impossible way to go right becomes the only possible way for the project to go at all .....

Imagine that when you want to do a certain kind of work (because you find it interesting or exciting), an opportunity will spontaneously appear for you to do it ...... and when you don't want to do a certain kind of work, your boss or someone else will appear and take it away from you.

Imagine that you'd like to be paid more, and get promoted ..... and so, you do.

Ahhh ...... Now you understand how LOA can help you in your career.

[Alex2007]

Originally Posted by Sam988

As i said before, hard work alone won't do it, ....

Sam you forgot that you have just said :

Originally Posted by Sam988

...............
...........they worked very hard to get to the point they are now. ....

So?

[ZHereford]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

In fact, if you click on the link below, go to my blog and search for the word "park", you'll see that during the working week, I often take long lunches to go off to a little park near my office, to sit down by myself and manifest intentions .....

Thanks Godot!

It sounds like the park is somewhat of a creative sanctuary for you.
It's also apparent that you have made LOA work for you in your work and personal life. Can't beat that!