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i need to take break from masterbtion myself...i'm the same exact way i find it wiefd after i'm done tossing off.....i have to take a 10 minute nap afterwards and then i'm back to normal... but yea i need to join ya in this 30 day fast..hahah |
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I'm full of admiration for you guys going whole-hog and doing the full 30 days!! I'm just sticking to the 7 for now, once I get that small success under by belt (ha), I can move on to bigger and better things! |
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Okay...so I've read through this WHOLE thread and basically it has been frustrating, so many loonggg posts. It was so long to read I had to jack off twice before I found the mental inuition to keep reading (ironic huh?)Really does everyone love this topic? Anyways I'm real confused. Is the 30-day challenge bad or not? Someone said it reduces sperm count , I really don't want that to happen. But you guys keep talking about sexual energy and someone said something about it helping in biphasic sleeping- something I've really been craving for. Yet the common ground which most of you have is that to orgasm is healthy but to ejaculate MAY not be the best way to go. Still I don't want to pursue the Taoist ways of orgasm. So how should I go about this? jack off once a week? Cause I'm real confused by your opinions and frankly I'm going to admit I'm not an expert on the subject of 'sexual energy', in fact this is the first time I've ever read about it (I'm talking about steve pavlina's article not this thread) For the record I've tried abstinence for fun some while ago, twice actually and only managed to hold it in for 4 days before my mind found some excuse to masturbate and then afterwards i'd masturbate 4+ times a day lol. |
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For me, I'd caution not trying to force things. Going against nature (what your body wants to do) isn't always wise. So don't force things too much. You could try setting your own target (like for me, I've chose 7 days), and guage the results, how do you feel after etc? Also, things will be very different dependent on your age (and health). If you're 18-20 ish, you'll be like the fountain of youth, and that stuff will really want to come out, once you're past like 25 or something, mother nature progressively, more and more, loses interest in you (booo booo). Consequently, you're fountain of youth, more and more, resembles the trickle of lost hope ... No, seriously, I'd just say be careful not force things too much; and be aware of what's happening for you, in your own body. Hope that helps. Jamie. |
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breaking the habit is hard......my girflriend challenged me to stop for a week..i said...hahaha okay thats easy......i was begging her to let me maturbate after the second day. we coudl't have sex becuase..ya know, it was that time of month....so she picked a good week to try and challenge me.....god bless that women |
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I never really thought about it...I would just simply do it as a habit. I usually pop some out right before a shower since it's real nice and relaxing. Again not thinking about it...I haven't even done it in over 8 days, ever since I started my fast...not on purpose...just didn't think about it. I've never really had that big a sexual urge anyway, I haven't even had sex in almost over 6 months...and could care less. I have a friend who literally FREAKS out if he goes a week without banging some random girl. I just don't get it. I don't see any point in craving sex so badly unless it's with someone who you actually love. I'm not even a "sex until marriage" fanatic but..*shrug* I don't know. Interesting topic, but too long for me to read all of it. |
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I've been kind of doing the same for the past few years....13+years I guess. I'm taking up the challenge too. -I'll just start out with 7 days. I haven't read all the posts so I dont know if anyone has posted this before- 1. Napoleon Hill spoke of the Sex Transmutation energy in his book. 2.Check out this thread: TMAGNUM FORUMS - Watching Porn & Not Beating Off |
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You have plenty of sperm, if you need it for something. I'm 51 so I'm beyond procreation and have been rigged to fire blanks for well over a decade now. If your objective is to maximize your ability to impregnate women then sure, frequent ejaculation by masturbation or otherwise will reduce your sperm count, but you will still have billions on tap. Women have very limited eggs and men have essentially unlimited sperm ... I don't see what you're worried about unless you've (a) been diagnosed with an actual fertility problem and (b) are at a point in life where you care. Refraining from masturbation as an exercise in self discovery is fine, but I doubt it's really worthy of THIS much discussion. Maybe it just reflects the average age of the participants and their youthful obsession with all things sexual. I've heard it crudely but sagely put: "There's nothing so over-rated as a good f__k and nothing so under-rated as a good s__t." I'm not to the point in life yet where it's a victory not to mess my pants so I'm not particularly pre-occupied with either function. I enjoy both. Relax -- life is meant to be enjoyed. Both the transcendent and the mundane. And let's face it, life consists mostly of the mundane, so pay at LEAST as much attention to that ;-) --Bob | |
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six weeks is my longest...the first two weeks are very hard but then it becomes easier, i was experimenting with "Sexual Transmutation" (got some suggested reading below!) and you really notice differences in your energy and creative ability after a few weeks Sexual Transmutation - Think and Grow Rich Think and Grow Rich: Chapter 11. The Mystery of Sex Transmutation (The Tenth Step toward Riches) Sex Transmutation: Sexual Energy into Genius |
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Masturbation certainly can lead to problems of addiction and it certainly can affect people's lives. Once a day maybe not but think about the sex addict who is doing it ten times a day, can't hold down a job or gets fired for masturbating at work, can't hold down a relationship because his partner can't bear to know that masturbation is over taking their sexual relationship. And yes I have personally worked with clients who experience this. When masturbation or sex for that matter becomes addictive, it is just like using drugs, alcohol, food or whatever. Behind it is someone who can't bear to feel their feelings and is using their addiction to numb their pain / emotions. This also affects women too There is a whole fellowship devoted to sex addicts called Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous Here's a link Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous | You are not alone. Alison |
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Personally I can't urinate at all when I'm aroused to any significant degree, and that is in fact my understanding of how it's supposed to work. You know, so you don't pee inside a woman. Not a popular thing to do. If peeing helps at all I assume it does so by reducing bladder pressure on your prostate. In other words your urine bladder doesn't press on your semen bladder ;-) Personally i don't miss the annoyance of youthful desire. At 51 I can go at times for days without remembering to think of sex. I frankly don't miss the daily torment. I used to think marriage would help and it does -- twice a week for 30 minutes. See, you have something to look forward too ;-) My, but I'm a naughty boy today. I should be cheering you on. Sorry. Carry on. As penance I shall increase my daily dose of testosterone, and reminisce. --Bob | |
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I think I'm doing this all wrong somehow. And the specualtion of being married AND peeing inside a woman is not somthing I'm going to look forward to | |
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Yes it's very normal for married guys. Often their partners lose interest so it's a way to relieve frustration rather than have an affair to meet their physical needs. That applies to men of all ages too not just the younger ones. Alison |
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Alison...are you married? Have you caught him shaking hands with the bishop? My wife admits to pleasuring herself only after she has had a couple drinks. As for myself. I try not to as much as possible. I find that when I'm in public and haven't taken the matter into my own hands for a while, women are more attracted to me. I get hit on all of the time. But when my sexual energy is down, they won't even look at me. I don't know if this could be proven or not, it's what I seem to attract. But I'll go through stages where I need to release even when my wife and I have been intimate. Imaginary partners help prevent extra players when your married....G
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woww lol! good luck to all you guys trying this.. reminds me of that movie 40 days and 40 nights. i kinda think of sex like food in that your body needs it, and its what you need to do in order to survive. but sometimes we lose touch with what our body really needs and can no longer recognise when we actually need it. for example people that are overweight, will continue to eat even when they are not hungry, as they cant tell the difference between their body's need for food and their psychological need to eat for pleasure. so i think its all about balance and listening to what your body needs. i feel sorry for you men though!! this sounds like a real challenge. i masturbate probably about once a week now that i don’t have a boyfriend and i love it!! easiest and most fun way to exercise |
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As a Taekwondo A-class international athlete, I am really attracted to the possibility of a heightened level of energy for training, and also the aggressive edge from increased testosterone. When I don't masturbate, I can see a surge in energy... But its often hard to point out as I could masturbate maybe a few hours before training and feel as normal. But what I really want is to redirect that sexual energy into my fighting and training - namely, I want to be as addicted to training as I am masturbating and seeking pornography...:/ Which is why I am trying to abstain. And I believe in its possibility, not merely suppressing your sexual desire but sort of redirecting that whole energy; the energy that makes you want to take your penis out, hunt for porn, etc into the things I love doing in life. Imagine doing what you love doing, like playing sport, working out, playing games but with the same sort of tenacity and passion as sexual desire!!! I know that sounds 'out there', but thats just me, I want to be different and also the best in what I do, so I believe I have to go against the grain of nature and daily human habits to achieve such. Make no mistake, the richest people on the planet/top, specialized athletes are different beings from the norm. The time I can remember just simply not having a desire to masturbate was when I met my first girlfriend and love - I just couldn't masturbate about her because I was so in love with her and felt crude visualizing her in such a grossly sexual manner. I went for over a week, and the odd thing was I wasn;t really suppressing it. |
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I tried going a few weeks without masturbating, but it seemed like nothing more than an exercise in self-denial. We make tons and tons of sperm each day and it is actually good for us to masturbate, according to scientific research. Even if you do it as often as once a day, I don't see any problem with it, except your sperm may get depleted, but not by much. It is a great way to relieve stress or enjoy yourself for a short period of time. And it's good for your heart. It's the ultimate motivation for exercise. It's a short workout, but a workout nonetheless.
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Maybe the couple should be focusing on how to bring Passion back into their marriage, instead of "surviving" through it. I remember a very good book called His Needs, Her Needs, which addresses this issue. If you are married and want the SPARK back in your marriage, give it a read. | |
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I think it's impossible to stop masturbating completely but it is very easy to only do it once it week. All you have to do is just make it habitual it is quit hard at first by soon becomes effortless. If you guys are interested check out the link below its a discussion on a PUA forum about this topic. I must warn you though it is very lengthly there are over 2000 replies and 50 pages The masturbation discussion (merged threads) |
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so... I'm just curious... is there any reason for the 108 days thing? Would more days mean better results? You know, if I'm gonna do something like this I'm doing it to the fullest, and if the fullest means 33 weeks, sign me in and wish me luck | |
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I really do think there's much more to who we are than how much sperm we have in our balls anyway. I think it's best to see it as no big deal. Last edited by brendannz; 11-29-2009 at 11:32 AM. | |
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