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Old 12-10-2011, 12:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Could anyone give me any suggestions on how to overcome severe fatigueness? I am always tired. Overwhelming tired. I never have enough energy to do anything. I am always in the daze, unable to concentrate, and barely able to comprehend basic things. I've been like this for over five years.

I had a physical done and everything looked okay according to my physician. I jog at least three to four times a week. I try to eat as healthy as possible. I take vitamins daily. I try to sleep at least eight hours a night, but to no avail, I still wake up tired.

I am so tired of being tired and fatigue! It is ruining my life!!
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Have you tried detoxing?

can you please describe your "healthy" diet. You may also be getting too much sleep.. If i sleep longer than 6hours i feel like that.

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Have you tried detoxing?

can you please describe your "healthy" diet. You may also be getting too much sleep.. If i sleep longer than 6hours i feel like that.
Yes, I have once about two years ago, I did a six day fast which helped a little but still unable to concentrate and feeling fatigue.

My daily diet normally consist of three to six medium to small size meals per day. I stop eating pork and fast foods because I thought maybe that was the problem, but still no change. I eat at least one to two fruits and/or vegetables per day. The only thing I can think of is maybe my sugar intake. I do eat alot of refined foods such as ice cream, and mainly desserts at least three to four times a week. I no longer eat whites (bread, rice,etc) though. Really not sure what the problem could be.

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your probably due for another detox since you eat all that crap.You may also have a gluten allergy..stay away from ALL grains.

I would suggest switching to a raw whole food diet. Go buy all your fav fruits, veges and nuts & eat the ♥♥♥♥ out of them. Do this for a few weeks and report back lol(the first few days your energy will be kinda low but dont give up)

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your probably due for another detox since you eat all that crap.You may also have a gluten allergy..stay away from ALL grains.

I would suggest switching to a raw whole food diet. Go buy all your fav fruits, veges and nuts & eat the ♥♥♥♥ out of them. Do this for a few weeks and report back lol(the first few days your energy will be kinda low)
Gluten allergy? I will have to look that up. I will try doing the raw diet for a while. And you suggest staying away from grains? Like wheat breads, brown rice?

Thanks for your help. Hopefully this helps.
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yes, exactly that including oats & the like. do raw whole food for 1-2 weeks and then add your meats back in (assuming u still want to eat meat)
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oh and do watch your intake of the raw nuts though. lol its easy to eat a days worth of calories in nuts..
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Investigate hypothyroidism. Don't trust that your physical covered this, or even if it did, it may have been overlooked. Thyroid conditions are tricky to diagnose, but fatigue is the most common symptom of more than 40 possible; do some research. See this previous thread Thyroid
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your probably due for another detox since you eat all that crap.You may also have a gluten allergy..stay away from ALL grains.

I would suggest switching to a raw whole food diet. Go buy all your fav fruits, veges and nuts & eat the ♥♥♥♥ out of them. Do this for a few weeks and report back lol(the first few days your energy will be kinda low but dont give up)
Okay, I will look into this. Thanks
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Did you ever do drugs when you were younger? / Are you doing any of these now?
Even things that are not considered serious..
Alcohol, Nicotine, Caffeine and Prescriptions.
(Please, don't assume its okay, just because it isn't mentioned )

All of these will take their toll on your energy.
Some appear to give it to you, but will eventually fade your natural spirit.

I was experiencing chronic fatigue for a while in my life..
I was sleeping about 12 hours a day and it was still difficult to get up...
It felt like the day was going by so fast and I couldn't keep up with my life.

Well, everything changed when I decided to become as healthy as I could.
I felt a little better at first, but I completely recovered after I took it seriously.

To recover:

I stopped all drugs.
(No Soda, Coffee, Tea, Beer/Wine, Cigarettes, etc.)

I started only eating Organic Raw Food.
(I recommend, you only eat 75% Raw Fruits and 25% Vegetables, I count nuts as fruit!)

I started water fasting regularly, 3 day fasts at least twice a month.
(I recommend, you make water fasting a regular part of your lifestyle)

I started walking 2 to 3 times a week, between 2 - 4 miles at a time.
(I hope you will believe that these simple changes will make a big difference in your life)

Now:

I only need about 6 hours of sleep average and even when I sleep only 4 hours I can jump out of bed full of energy and vitality.

I haven't been sick in over 5 years, not even with a common cold, or soar throat.
As soon as I feel anything coming, it doesn't stand a chance against:
100% Pure Squeezed Orange Juice and Water Fasting...

The day is long.. once again and I have regained control of my life.

Most of all, I feel like myself again.

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Could anyone give me any suggestions on how to overcome severe fatigueness? I am always tired. Overwhelming tired. I never have enough energy to do anything. I am always in the daze, unable to concentrate, and barely able to comprehend basic things. I've been like this for over five years.

I had a physical done and everything looked okay according to my physician. I jog at least three to four times a week. I try to eat as healthy as possible. I take vitamins daily. I try to sleep at least eight hours a night, but to no avail, I still wake up tired.

I am so tired of being tired and fatigue! It is ruining my life!!
Do you drink a lot of caffeine?
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Did you ever do drugs when you were younger? / Are you doing any of these now?
Even things that are not considered serious..
Alcohol, Nicotine, Caffeine and Prescriptions.
(Please, don't assume its okay, just because it isn't mentioned )

All of these will take their toll on your energy.
Some appear to give it to you, but will eventually fade your natural spirit.

I was experiencing chronic fatigue for a while in my life..
I was sleeping about 12 hours a day and it was still difficult to get up...
It felt like the day was going by so fast and I couldn't keep up with my life.

Well, everything changed when I decided to become as healthy as I could.
I felt a little better at first, but I completely recovered after I took it seriously.

To recover:

I stopped all drugs.
(No Soda, Coffee, Tea, Beer/Wine, Cigarettes, etc.)

I started only eating Organic Raw Food.
(I recommend, you only eat 75% Raw Fruits and 25% Vegetables, I count nuts as fruit!)

I started water fasting regularly, 3 day fasts at least twice a month.
(I recommend, you make water fasting a regular part of your lifestyle)

I started walking 2 to 3 times a week, between 2 - 4 miles at a time.
(I hope you will believe that these simple changes will make a big difference in your life)

Now:

I only need about 6 hours of sleep average and even when I sleep only 4 hours I can jump out of bed full of energy and vitality.

I haven't been sick in over 5 years, not even with a common cold, or soar throat.
As soon as I feel anything coming, it doesn't stand a chance against:
100% Pure Squeezed Orange Juice and Water Fasting...

The day is long.. once again and I have regained control of my life.

Most of all, I feel like myself again.
When I was younger I use to smoke a lot of marijuana for about two years straight, but that has been over fourteen years ago.

I guess, I need to get stricker with my diet regimen. I try to eat healthy, but honestly, I still eat alot of sweets. That has been the hardest thing for me to give up. I gave up fastfoods, red meats, pork, but sweets I cannot stay away from. I have a craving for sweets everyday.

I will need to gain the will-power and stop eating junk foods. Thank you for your advice.
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Do you drink a lot of caffeine?
I actually don't drink much caffeine, sometimes in my teas, but I only drink tea about twice a week.
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All things diet considered, which by the way seems to be addressed ok, I would like to suggest looking at your day to day lifestyle outside of nutrition as well.

Do you have a stressful and highly demanding life? Are you overly busy? Are you bombarded by excess noise and stimulation like tv, radio or internet? Do you get any time in the day to stop and just rest? And how are you emotionally?(outside of how you feel about your energy)

There are many ways to manage our energy. That said, I would add that, if you have just made a diet change cutting out refined carbs, meat and now ingesting more fresh foods, your body may have side effects as it is adapting to the new diet. If you are used to relying on the energy source from processed carbs, your body has to adjust. Same thing with meats. Your body is adjusting to relying on less iron. Basically, the diet changes are good but you need to be patient with the adaptation.

Another thing to check for is candida. Though that might have been cleared in you blood test, but i've heard that a candida clearing detox can bring back a lot of energy. Look into it.

I hope you find the right answers.
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I actually don't drink much caffeine, sometimes in my teas, but I only drink tea about twice a week.
Healing takes time and the improvements come in stages.

If you would like a significant improvement, from a 4 stage approach:

1st Stage, stop the intake of Drugs:
Stop drinking your Tea, Coffee and any Soda, withdraw from Caffeine all together.

2nd Stage, cut out the Junk:
Also, immediately stop eating any Junk Food and Fast Food.
And immediately stop eating Salt, White Sugar, Spices, Oil.

3rd Stage, leave out the Saturated-Fat Food:
Then, make an attempt to stop eating any Dairy and Meat, at least for a period of time so you can see how you feel without them, as it will be better, once you get used to staying away from them.


As each of these things is removed from your diet, you will feel better without them individually, and continue to improve until they are all removed.


This what you are left with:
Do some exercise regularly and start eating only Fruits and Veggies.


4th Stage:
At this point, do not congratulate yourself yet, you will need to do a few 3 day water fasts in order to detox from what the junk has put into your body.


After all this is initiated you should feel more energy coming back to you.

Please be patient with this life style as your body needs time to heal, you will need to continue this for at least 3 months in order to be able to look back and understand the difference of who you were and how much better the new you can really be.

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All things diet considered, which by the way seems to be addressed ok, I would like to suggest looking at your day to day lifestyle outside of nutrition as well.

Do you have a stressful and highly demanding life? Are you overly busy? Are you bombarded by excess noise and stimulation like tv, radio or internet? Do you get any time in the day to stop and just rest? And how are you emotionally?(outside of how you feel about your energy)

There are many ways to manage our energy. That said, I would add that, if you have just made a diet change cutting out refined carbs, meat and now ingesting more fresh foods, your body may have side effects as it is adapting to the new diet. If you are used to relying on the energy source from processed carbs, your body has to adjust. Same thing with meats. Your body is adjusting to relying on less iron. Basically, the diet changes are good but you need to be patient with the adaptation.

Another thing to check for is candida. Though that might have been cleared in you blood test, but i've heard that a candida clearing detox can bring back a lot of energy. Look into it.

I hope you find the right answers.
Thanks. Candida very well could be the issue.
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Healing takes time and the improvements come in stages.

If you would like a significant improvement, from a 4 stage approach:

1st Stage, stop the intake of Drugs:
Stop drinking your Tea, Coffee and any Soda, withdraw from Caffeine all together.

2nd Stage, cut out the Junk:
Also, immediately stop eating any Junk Food and Fast Food.
And immediately stop eating Salt, White Sugar, Spices, Oil.

3rd Stage, leave out the Saturated-Fat Food:
Then, make an attempt to stop eating any Dairy and Meat, at least for a period of time so you can see how you feel without them, as it will be better, once you get used to staying away from them.


As each of these things is removed from your diet, you will feel better without them individually, and continue to improve until they are all removed.


This what you are left with:
Do some exercise regularly and start eating only Fruits and Veggies.


4th Stage:
At this point, do not congratulate yourself yet, you will need to do a few 3 day water fasts in order to detox from what the junk has put into your body.


After all this is initiated you should feel more energy coming back to you.

Please be patient with this life style as your body needs time to heal, you will need to continue this for at least 3 months in order to be able to look back and understand the difference of who you were and how much better the new you can really be.
Great advice. I have changed my diet so much within the last two years in hopes of gaining more energy, but I know I still have a long way to go. I crave sweets all the time, so I think letting go of the sweets will be my biggest challenge. The only meat I eat is turkey, chicken, and fish. You mentioned stop eating diary. That is another weakness, cheese. I love cheese! I no longer drink milk, but cheese I cannot resist.

But I guess I will need to change my eating habits if it is the only way I will feel better. Starting tomorrow I will do a water fast for three days. Wish me luck.
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Great advice. I have changed my diet so much within the last two years in hopes of gaining more energy, but I know I still have a long way to go. I crave sweets all the time, so I think letting go of the sweets will be my biggest challenge. The only meat I eat is turkey, chicken, and fish. You mentioned stop eating diary. That is another weakness, cheese. I love cheese! I no longer drink milk, but cheese I cannot resist.

But I guess I will need to change my eating habits if it is the only way I will feel better. Starting tomorrow I will do a water fast for three days. Wish me luck.
for your sweet tooth eat dates they are sweet and delicious! oh yumm dates with some raw cashew butter..

no idea what to do for your cheese craving.. i quit drinking milk when someone informed me it was cow puss 6 years ago.. i ended up quitting dairy altogether because of that...

good luck on your water fast im doing a 30day one and currently going on day 22.

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Great advice. I have changed my diet so much within the last two years in hopes of gaining more energy, but I know I still have a long way to go. I crave sweets all the time, so I think letting go of the sweets will be my biggest challenge. The only meat I eat is turkey, chicken, and fish. You mentioned stop eating diary. That is another weakness, cheese. I love cheese! I no longer drink milk, but cheese I cannot resist.

But I guess I will need to change my eating habits if it is the only way I will feel better. Starting tomorrow I will do a water fast for three days. Wish me luck.
If you are serious about starting a water fast tomorrow, I applaud you.

The best way to go about it that I have found, is to speed up the process of going into ketosis, down to only 24 hours instead of the normal 72 hours.

This will take out the hunger temptations that are associated with this period.
And will allow you to detox more quickly, as the burning of fat will begin right away.

The way you do this is by exercising for a minimum of 2 1/2 hours on the 1st day of the fast.

You just need to go for a walk that lasts this length of time.
It will be between 5 to 6 miles.

This will burn up all your carbohydrate reserves on the 1st day and switch you over to burning fat (ketosis) and begin your detoxification.

I have personally done this more than 12 different times and achieved the results that I am describing to you every time.


You can prove that this is true to yourself, by simply purchasing some keto stix at your local pharmacy store and testing yourself after you have completed the exercise. The latest that you will need to wait in order to be able to detect ketones will be the following morning after waking up. This will be within 24 hours of having started your water fast.

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Might be a good idea to see a doctor so you can test yourself for diabetes, just incase
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This might help a little bit:

Overcome Fatigue with These Natural Remedies - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

Here's a supplement that looks interesting:

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The product has Siberian Ginseng and Gotu Kola which are adaptogens.

It also has Olive Leaf Extract.

These could be useful in promoting some energy balance, but you should first balance yourself through detoxification of water fasting, as you will be surprised how effective your body can be at healing itself when it is purified, and then you will realize what you still need to do.

You should then try and find balance through a natural diet approach. Using food that you have easy access too such as Fruits that are in Season. And eat with the seasons, in this way you are taking a practical approach.

If you are still having energy deficits, this is when it would seem reasonable for you to then consider the exploration of some adaptogenic supplementation.
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The cravings are always a place to look.
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It seems like your fitness and nutrition is spot on. You´ve got your physical health spot on.

Witch leaves the emotional aspect. Have you considered that this might be an emotional state? Because this sounds a lot like depression. The thing about emotional states, is that we´re not always aware of them. When was the last time you were totally enthusiastic? And did you feel more energetic then?

I´ve learnt a few things about emotional stuff from the sedona method. On the lower end of the scale, is apathy. When your in the apathy emotional state, the body is in rest, and you have no energy available.

And now I´m gonna be rectum and raise the question, "mayby it´s a belief issue?". If you felt like this for a time in the past, maby you reinforced how you feel by repeating the lack-of-energy-story like an affirmation?

Or, in the case of affOrmations, you ask questions that forces the subconscious mind to give you an answer, thereby reinforcing the belief. Like "Why am I so tired all the time? Why do I lack energy?". A bit of googling on Noah St. John may help to understand the concept.


Anyways, it´s only food for thought to stimulate some problemsolving. When the physical body is in shape, maby it´s not a fitness/nutrition issue.
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If you are serious about starting a water fast tomorrow, I applaud you.

The best way to go about it that I have found, is to speed up the process of going into ketosis, down to only 24 hours instead of the normal 72 hours.

This will take out the hunger temptations that are associated with this period.
And will allow you to detox more quickly, as the burning of fat will begin right away.

The way you do this is by exercising for a minimum of 2 1/2 hours on the 1st day of the fast.

You just need to go for a walk that lasts this length of time.
It will be between 5 to 6 miles.

This will burn up all your carbohydrate reserves on the 1st day and switch you over to burning fat (ketosis) and begin your detoxification.

I have personally done this more than 12 different times and achieved the results that I am describing to you every time.


You can prove that this is true to yourself, by simply purchasing some keto stix at your local pharmacy store and testing yourself after you have completed the exercise. The latest that you will need to wait in order to be able to detect ketones will be the following morning after waking up. This will be within 24 hours of having started your water fast.
Good information! Today is my first day of fasting. I am trying to work up enough energy to walk or jog, so tired. I will pick up this product at the pharmacy and try testing myself. I hope this helps.
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Might be a good idea to see a doctor so you can test yourself for diabetes, just incase
Yeah, I tested for diabetes eight months ago and it was negative. Though diabetes runs in my family.
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It seems like your fitness and nutrition is spot on. You´ve got your physical health spot on.

Witch leaves the emotional aspect. Have you considered that this might be an emotional state? Because this sounds a lot like depression. The thing about emotional states, is that we´re not always aware of them. When was the last time you were totally enthusiastic? And did you feel more energetic then?

I´ve learnt a few things about emotional stuff from the sedona method. On the lower end of the scale, is apathy. When your in the apathy emotional state, the body is in rest, and you have no energy available.

And now I´m gonna be rectum and raise the question, "mayby it´s a belief issue?". If you felt like this for a time in the past, maby you reinforced how you feel by repeating the lack-of-energy-story like an affirmation?

Or, in the case of affOrmations, you ask questions that forces the subconscious mind to give you an answer, thereby reinforcing the belief. Like "Why am I so tired all the time? Why do I lack energy?". A bit of googling on Noah St. John may help to understand the concept.


Anyways, it´s only food for thought to stimulate some problemsolving. When the physical body is in shape, maby it´s not a fitness/nutrition issue.
You could very well be right. At this point it could be anything. I try not to say that 'I am always tired but even when I try to deny it and trick my subconcious... I still cannot help but to say I am tired because I still feel tired! May be I am depressed because this cycle has been for over five years no matter what health changes I make to help me feel better nothing works. I keep hearing meditation will help my energy level, I may have to start that.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Good information! Today is my first day of fasting. I am trying to work up enough energy to walk or jog, so tired. I will pick up this product at the pharmacy and try testing myself. I hope this helps.
I recommend that you specifically walk and not jog.

It would be difficult to jog for that long, plus jogging for 2 1/2 hours will suck the life out of you and you will not want to do that, especially going into a water fast.

Walking will not tire you in this way. And will instead create an opposite effect.
Walking will strengthen you as you proceed through the activity, rather than drain you of energy. Walking is a transitional exercise. It will burn up the carbos but since it will switch you over to burning fat, you will not feel drained because it does so without the microscopic torn muscle damage to your body, that jogging would cause.

This creates the balance that you are looking for. In otherwords, walking itself is very similar in balancing your body the way water fasting does, so the two go perfectly together hand in hand.

Please walk.
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You could very well be right. At this point it could be anything. I try not to say that 'I am always tired but even when I try to deny it and trick my subconcious... I still cannot help but to say I am tired because I still feel tired! May be I am depressed because this cycle has been for over five years no matter what health changes I make to help me feel better nothing works. I keep hearing meditation will help my energy level, I may have to start that.
Walking is a good meditation exercise.

Try to get to the point where walking for 5+ miles is soothing to your soul
and does not take strength out of your body.

Walking will promote the tranquility you need to allow you to gather your thoughts and put new ideas together.

Allow walking to feel better to you, than jogging or running, and reach for the point where nothing bothers you while you are moving along at your own pace.

It requires patience and discipline because it will take you longer to reach your goal, knowing you could get there sooner, but its reward is peace of mind and a longer life.

Remember that the turtle wins the race.

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The product has Siberian Ginseng and Gotu Kola which are adaptogens.

It also has Olive Leaf Extract.

These could be useful in promoting some energy balance, but you should first balance yourself through detoxification of water fasting, as you will be surprised how effective your body can be at healing itself when it is purified, and then you will realize what you still need to do.

You should then try and find balance through a natural diet approach. Using food that you have easy access too such as Fruits that are in Season. And eat with the seasons, in this way you are taking a practical approach.

If you are still having energy deficits, this is when it would seem reasonable for you to then consider the exploration of some adaptogenic supplementation.
Thank you, this is very good advice!

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