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Old 12-09-2011, 12:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I ve been researching cures for cancer for some time now because most of my family have died because of it im no doctor this is just what i have red and searched online ive only tried the apricot seeds thats it all of the other stuff is research and this is what i found out this is what the mainstream media do not show is that cancer is cured everyday by people who dont take drugs from doctors or have kimothearpy or radiation the FDA have control of the pharmacy companies cancer is a multi million £ or $ profit project did you know..most drugs given to cancer patients were designed in 1974 and do nothing to cure cancer..

what is the true cause of cancer
everybody has 75.000 cancer cells in their body and your immune system fights it everyday but one day it will get to much and the immune system cannot cope with it all cancer cells start to grow into a tumor

what is a tumor
a tumor is when the immune system cannot fight the cancer cells so it makes a wall of cells around the cancer cells creating a tumor the immune system thinks that its got it under control but the cancer tumor starts to grow kimo and radiation treatment may shrink cancer but it hardens the cell walls around it so cancer is protected it may shrink it and the docs will tell you your cured nope it will come back kimo and radiation treatment kills all good cells in the body which we need so instead of helping its killing you

how to beat cancer
when the body ph levels drop below 7 it goes acidic then the immune system goes into a firmitative state (low oxygen state) all the cells can do is grow and split thats cancer. it need oxygen so you need to get your body above 7 ph into alkaline where oxygen energy is transported to do this you need to drink alkaline water or eat loads of raw veg and fruits people with cancer have a ph of below 7 cancer cannot grow if its above 7.5 at 8.5 cancer dies
cancer loves sugar cancer cells have 96 sugar receptors a normal cell has 4 sugar receptors eat sugar and you feed cancer it goes so big it then pops out another cancer cell thats how quick cancer can grow white blood cells(these fight infection) feed off oxygen, cancer eats white blood cells so no oxygen this is how bad cancer is you cannot have toxins going into your body like whats in our food preservatives, msg's, colouring and all the other chemicals they put into food your immune system is fighting these chemicals and because its busy with that cancer grows. NOTE this makes me think is there a hidden agenda with the food we eat fast food pop chocolate chips sweets(candy) fats oils salts ARE THEY ARE KILLING US WITH FOOD.
use only organic fruit and veg it has more energy than conventional food(whats in your supermarkets)conventional food is sprayed with chemicals to kill insects if you have to use conventional food WASH IT

Eat all raw veg and fruit get a juicer and juice them into a drink you need 13 8oz glasses a day and a detox from coffee this in more explained if you goto google and search THE GERSON THERAPY this has cured more than just cancer aids heart problems drug and alcohol addiction and more check it out

no matter what stage cancer you have or what type of cancer you have some people have had a month to live and cured themselves

get loads of sunshine this give natural energy to the body

a british doctor in 1912 found a tribe called the hunza tribe they have never had 1 case of cancer EVER there diet is mostly apricots and peaches they live till they are 85 years old some have lived till 120 years old the tribe look years younger than they are eat the flesh of the apricot and you are left with a kernel(nut) crack this open to find a almond like seed this is the best source of vitamin B17 oh B17 kills cancer like flies this tribe eat 200 times more fruit than the west note all seed contain CYANIDE so be careful because we are not use to eating so much fruit this can make you ill or worse i know people who eat 10 to 17 of these kernels a day with no problem but take it easy and build it up slowly but eaten with the flesh of the fruit with the kernel will counteract the cyanide in the body ive eaten 5 kernals a day with the fruit with no problem and i eat little fruit but its building up NOTE if you give a monkey a apricot or peach it will (naturally not told to do it) take all the flesh away crack the kernel and eat the seed FACT. I got this info from a book is called WORLD WITHOUT CANCER by G. Edward Griffin

more recent also check out DR Bursynski documentary he cured all kinds of cancer and fought the FDA over it this is an amazing doucumentary here is the link hope it works if not google it VideoWeed - Get high on VideoWeed | Flash Video Hosting

ok please comment or correct me if im wrong with any of this infomation or continue it like i said im no doctor but this subject is so interesting wow thats a long text for a first post ive just joined this site

And God said: Behold I have given you every herb-bearing seed
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Hello thematrix.
You make very valid points, and you certainly have the medical industry pegged. The only thing I would add to your study is the curitive properties of light.

Have you done any reading on the Royal Rife Light Machine? The premice for light-cures is there. There are some extremely interesting facts regarding the affects of specific color spectrums and their influence on cancer, as well as specific frequencies that promote cancer.

You are absolutely correct about sunlight, and this includes hanging our bed sheets and blankets out in the sun sometimes. Hanging our laundry out to dry in the sun helps, too.

I have written essays about my own research regarding cancer, but you have given me much to ponder. Thank you for your contribution, and I hope to see (and share) more with you.

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Thanks for reading my post and ive just added you to my friends list this subject is amazing that simple things can change your health and life i am aware of dr rife and his cure for cancer i did not know about the spectrum of light that can cure illness but dr rife i know of worked with vibration to destroy infections and the FDA called him a quack yet his study proved otherwise i also found out that dandilions have a cancer curing agent within the stem of the plant it goes something like this collect a few dandilions cut the stem below the leaves under the head of the flower try to get the roots as much as u can dont wash any soil off let it dry out and crush it to a powder and have a teaspoon full everyday this has been proven to cure lung cancer in 2 paitents but not tested on any other cancer as far as the study of natural food agents we know very little doctors when training only get taught stage 1 in nutrition thats it the goverment should put more money into the study of alternative medicine

as for sunliight well life would die without it

the more i find out about cancer the more i will share

i have to say im impressed with your work and what you have wrote i didnt get chance to read them all but i glanced at a few your understanding of space and particals is cool i always wondered this... visually zoom out of your country now you can see earth ok zoom out of earth now u see the universe ok zoom out of the universe what r u in now a void ok lets call it a void zoom out of the void what r u in now and keep zooming out where will u end up sat with god????

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Hmm, I don't know much about the specifics so I can't really comment, but I think cancerous forms through some other method.

It isn't so much of an overload your immune system as it is a mutation of a certain cell, or group of cells, right?
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thanks for the reply but the way cancer forms is how i wrote it, the mutating of cells you say is correct it is the process of the immune system not handling the cancer cells so it trys to protect the body from them by putting a protective wall of cells around the cancer now thats the mutation bit of the cells this is when a tumor starts but you are correct my post just explaines it in detail you have to look after you immune system to the max because it will destroy any toxins in your body its when your immune system cant beat the toxins you get health problems
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Raw Fruits and Vegetables are the best daily defense against Cancer.

However, when things get out of control, one of the things that may be able to cure/reverse cancer is Water Fasting.

The reason is because Cancer is the manifestation of Serious DNA Damage to the Cells.

Every time our cells multiply, they make less perfect copies of themselves.
This is what we know as Aging.

Our body becomes weaker in the process, but our immune system and bodies DNA Repair mechanisms can usually still keep the DNA Damage/Mutations from going out of control.

When some of these cells mutate beyond the ability of our body to repair them, they can become dangerous, if their mutation leads them to multiply out of control and they overwhelm the rest of the bodies cells.

This is when Water Fasting can be the answer, because of its ability to increase the bodies natural regenerative properties and allow you to consume the dead/mutated/unnatural cells within your body.

The length of Water Fast that it would take to achieve this is usually said to be greater than 21 days.
After the completion of this kind of Water Fast.
What is left will be the closest copies of perfect cells, such as which you were born with.

In short, a cancer free and younger you.

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very interseting reply thanks the more knowledge we have the more power we gain and water fasting ive never heard of im interested what does water fasting consist of like what food can you eat (if any) how much water, at what temp should the water be at what type of water and how much strain will your kindeys and liver be under with vasts amounts of water can you please give me some more details of water fasting because this post could 1 day save someones life im so interested in this subject of cancer and you have just put me on another path thanks
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Great OP matrix.

To elaborate on your original post and to explain for other readers the fascinating way in which Vitamin B17/Amygdaline/laetrile/cyanide (as from apricot kernels or other sources) works in the prevention and treatment of cancer, the following are quotes from Dr. Jim Howenstein, MD:

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Amygdaline(laetrile) contains 2 molecules of sugar, one molecule of benzaldehyde and a cyanide radical.. This is quite stable in normal cells but can be broken apart in cancer cells which are the only site of the enzyme beta-glucosidase. The quantity of beta-glucosidase in cancer cells is 3000 times the quantity found in normal cells. When laetrile is lysed by beta-glucosidase HCN (hydrogen cyanide) forms in the cancer cell and promptly destroys the cell. This limited method of release of HCN ensures that laetrile therapy is completely safe.

The quantity of the enzyme rhodanese is high in normal cells and absent in cancer cells. This enzyme is able to prevent the release of cyanide in healthy cells. Because rhodanese is absent in cancer cells there is nothing to stop the release of cyanide from amygdaline and the cancer cell is immediately destroyed. In this remarkable way the Creator of the Universe was able to design a mechanism to destroy cancer cells while protecting healthy cells from the cyanide radical found in Vitamin B-17.
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Standard pharmacology textbooks for more than a 100 years have always given laetrile a perfect safety approval. Reputable scientist Dr. Dean Burk, head of the Cytochemistry Department at the National Cancer Institute reported that when laetrile was added to a culture of cancer cells[4] “The cancer cells died like flies until none were left.”
from: Dr. James Howenstine -- Can cancer be avoided or cured with vitamin B-17?

Throughout my life, i for one have been indocrinated to believe that anything containing cyanide is a horrible poison only to be avoided. Seems the Hunza never got that memo.

Along with apricot seeds (and other b17 sources) and gerson therapy (juicing, coffee enema among other aspects), also interesting to me in the treatment of cancer are Budwig protocol (flaxseed oil/cottage cheese) and Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda). I also strongly believe that periodic fasting, excellent nutrition and exercise can help prevent a lot of issues which would otherwise have arisen.
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what does water fasting consist of like what food can you eat (if any)
Water fasting consists of drinking only water for a period of time, and consuming nothing else. The length of the fast will depend on what your goals for each particular fast.



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Remember the saying, drink 8 glasses of water a day, but hardly anyone does?

This is a good place to start. So, during a water fast, drink at least 8 glasses of water a day.

There are x3 types of water you can drink.
Distilled, Mineral and Reverse Osmosis/Filtered Water.

I have seen fellow water fasters each express different preferences for all.

My personal preference is of Reverse Osmosis / Filtered Water.

The reasons for choosing each are:

Distilled water may help draw out additional toxins from the body, since it has not formed any ionic bonds yet, such as with salt or other molecules.

Mineral water may help maintain the body's mineral/electrolyte levels during a fast.

Reverse Osmosis / Filtered is neutral and shouldn't cause complications since it will neither provide additional substances such as minerals, or draw out electrolytes too fast such as with distilled.


As for water temperature, I like Room Temperature to Slightly Cold.


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A beginner water faster, will usually have a higher than normal amount of toxins in their body, most of which will be in the body fat.

As water fasting switches your body over from burning carbohydrates into burning fat for fuel, the toxins will be released into your blood stream.

This will cause a few temporary symptoms such as headache, weakness and fatigue. These symptoms will only last for a few days 2 or 3 and would represent the most difficult period of time for your kidneys and liver.

However, compared to drinking alcohol on a regular basis, the process of expelling these toxins from your body will be a benefit and not a punishment to your kidneys and liver.

You will know you are on the right track when, you repeat another 3 day fast at a later point in time, such later in the same month and notice that you are not experiencing the negative symptoms the 2nd or 3rd time around.

This is a sign that you have successfully rid your body of most of the toxins and have not reintroduced them into yourself.

For this purpose fasting of 3 - 5 days at a time will be sufficient.

For the purpose of healing more serious issues such as high blood pressure from cholesterol build up in arteries or reversing chronic fatigue, longer fasts will be required such as between 14 - 21 days.

And for healing damaged organs or curing cancer, a fast of between 21 - 40 days at a time would be called for.

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I ve been researching cures for cancer for some time now because most of my family have died because of it im no doctor this is just what i have red and searched online ive only tried the apricot seeds thats it all of the other stuff is research and this is what i found out this is what the mainstream media do not show is that cancer is cured everyday by people who dont take drugs from doctors or have kimothearpy or radiation the FDA have control of the pharmacy companies cancer is a multi million £ or $ profit project did you know..most drugs given to cancer patients were designed in 1974 and do nothing to cure cancer..
I'm sorry to hear about your family.

On the contrary, though, the mainstream media (and celebrities such as Oprah) all too often claim that various ineffective 'cures' for cancer works, and more people die unnecessarily.

It's true that conventional medicine is nowhere near as good at curing cancer as I, you, or people working with it would like - but for some types of cancer, it can do a lot.

There's some exciting contemporary research, like 17-year-old wins 100k for creating cancer-killing nanoparticle | Geek.com and Twelve immunotherapy drugs that could cure cancers. [Immunol Rev. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI

In the meanwhile, for some cancers, conventional treatment helps a higher percentage of people live than anything else humanity has found so far.

Also, it's spelled chemotherapy/chemo, not 'kimo'.

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when the body ph levels drop below 7 it goes acidic then the immune system goes into a firmitative state (low oxygen state) all the cells can do is grow and split thats cancer. it need oxygen so you need to get your body above 7 ph into alkaline where oxygen energy is transported to do this you need to drink alkaline water or eat loads of raw veg and fruits people with cancer have a ph of below 7 cancer cannot grow if its above 7.5 at 8.5 cancer dies
Your body tries very hard to keep your blood's pH in a narrow range around 7.35 to 7.45. Outside of this range, you're in acidosis or alkalosis; too far outside of this range, and you're dead. Having your blood pH below 6.8 or above 7.8 can be lethal - see Why Are the PH Levels So Important? | eHow.com

Your diet can change the pH of your urine fairly drastically, but not the pH of your blood.

Changing the pH of your body in an attempt to stop cancer won't work: and if you managed to change your blood's pH to anywhere near the numbers you mentioned, you'd be dead (again, you can change your urine pH - but that won't help you).

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cancer loves sugar cancer cells have 96 sugar receptors a normal cell has 4 sugar receptors eat sugar and you feed cancer it goes so big it then pops out another cancer cell thats how quick cancer can grow white blood cells(these fight infection) feed off oxygen, cancer eats white blood cells so no oxygen this is how bad cancer is you cannot have toxins going into your body like whats in our food preservatives, msg's, colouring and all the other chemicals they put into food your immune system is fighting these chemicals and because its busy with that cancer grows. NOTE this makes me think is there a hidden agenda with the food we eat fast food pop chocolate chips sweets(candy) fats oils salts ARE THEY ARE KILLING US WITH FOOD.
use only organic fruit and veg it has more energy than conventional food(whats in your supermarkets)conventional food is sprayed with chemicals to kill insects if you have to use conventional food WASH IT

That's a mixture of accurate and false information.

Sugar intake does appear correlated with cancer risk (see Sugar consumption and human cancer in site... [Eur J Cancer Prev. 1998] - PubMed - NCBI , for example). And, in general, it appears that diet has some preventative effect against cancer - for some kinds of cancer, really major preventative effects.

I don't think there's a hidden agenda, though, just lots of short-term profit-driven thinking: it's very cheap and profitable for people to make very poor-quality foods that many people consider tasty/convenient.

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Eat all raw veg and fruit get a juicer and juice them into a drink you need 13 8oz glasses a day and a detox from coffee this in more explained if you goto google and search THE GERSON THERAPY this has cured more than just cancer aids heart problems drug and alcohol addiction and more check it out
Gerson regimen. [Oncology (Williston Park). 2010] - PubMed - NCBI suggests that it may have a small effect occasionally, but it's nowhere near as effective as often claimed.

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a british doctor in 1912 found a tribe called the hunza tribe they have never had 1 case of cancer EVER there diet is mostly apricots and peaches they live till they are 85 years old some have lived till 120 years old the tribe look years younger than they are eat the flesh of the apricot and you are left with a kernel(nut) crack this open to find a almond like seed this is the best source of vitamin B17 oh B17 kills cancer like flies this tribe eat 200 times more fruit than the west note all seed contain CYANIDE so be careful because we are not use to eating so much fruit this can make you ill or worse i know people who eat 10 to 17 of these kernels a day with no problem but take it easy and build it up slowly but eaten with the flesh of the fruit with the kernel will counteract the cyanide in the body ive eaten 5 kernals a day with the fruit with no problem and i eat little fruit but its building up NOTE if you give a monkey a apricot or peach it will (naturally not told to do it) take all the flesh away crack the kernel and eat the seed FACT. I got this info from a book is called WORLD WITHOUT CANCER by G. Edward Griffin
Very dubious. See GREAT HUNZA: The Hunza Longevity Myth and Vitamin B17 for Cancer | eHow.com

Laetrile is not a vitamin; calling it B17 is marketing, and incorrect.

In general, prevention works a lot better than cure when it comes to cancer. Eat well, take care of yourself, and good luck.
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Cells, whether cancerous or normal can only live and reproduce (undergo mitosis) in a pH range of between 6.5 and 7.5. A healthy cell has a pH of 7.35 while a cancer cell is more acidic. Cesium when taken orally will raise the pH of cancer cells, but not that of normal cells. When the pH of a Cancer cell goes above 7.5 it dies and if it goes above 8.0 it will die in a matter of hours. Here we are talking about the pH level of cells not your blood

testing your ph levels and keeping your body at a safe ph level see this page
The Biamonte Center for Clinical Nutrition | Health-Truth.com

Cesium
Cesium has no natural radioactive form, and should not be confused with Cesium 137 which is artificially produced.
Cesium *, a crystalline salt has been used successfully for cancer for many years now. Cesium Chloride and Cesium Carbonate work by raising the cancer cell's Ph to a highly alkaline state. Although many anti-cancer diets also produce an alkaline state, they simply cannot do so as quickly or as fully as Cesium can.

Understanding Cancer

Cancer cells are known to be anaerobic, meaning they ferment oxygen rather than burn oxygen. When the level of oxygen that gets into a normal cell becomes too low, or the ATP molecule count gets too low, a normal cell will convert into becoming anaerobic.

A Nobel Prize was awarded for proving that cancer cells are anaerobic, meaning they do not burn glucose, but rather they ferment glucose in order to get their ATP energy.

"Over seventy-five years ago Dr. Otto Warburg published a Nobel Prize winning paper describing the environment of the cancer cell. A normal cell undergoes an adverse change when it can no longer take up oxygen to convert glucose into energy by oxidation. In the absence of oxygen the cell reverts to a primitive nutritional program to sustain itself, converting glucose, by fermentation. The lactic acid produced by fermentation lowers the cell pH (acid/alkaline balance) and destroys the ability of DNA and RNA to control cell division… the cancer cells begin to multiply unchecked. The lactic acid simultaneously causes intense local pain and destroys cell enzymes."
Cancer Cover-Up (Cesium Science): Cesium - A High Ph Therapy For Cancer

In the absence of oxygen, glucose undergoes fermentation to create lactic acid. This causes the cell pH to drop from between 7.3 to 7.2 down to 7 and later to 6.5; in more advanced stages of cancer and in metastases the pH may drop to 6.0 and even 5.7.

CESIUM CHLORIDE
The nature of cancer cells, acidity, is the very thing which cesium chloride addresses!! In terms of pure theory, especially with regards to stopping the spread of cancer, cesium chloride is one of the best cancer treatments.

The History of Cesium Used in Cancer Treatments

The theory behind the cesium treatment for cancer is largely the result of Dr. A. Keith Brewer, PhD. However, it should be noted that during his time a powdered form of cesium was being used, not a liquid ionic form.

The cesium used back then (probably cesium carbonate) was not as powerful, gram for gram, as today's more potent liquid ionic cesium chloride. Thus, do not use any treatment doses which were designed for powdered cesium. use the doses only by a person who has a great deal of experience setting doses. This is especially true if inflammation or swelling is a potential problem.

The key issue is how big the clusters of cesium atoms are. If the cluster is too big, as it frequently is with the powdered versions, virtually none of the cesium gets inside the cancer cells. Cesium simply doesn't work unless it does get inside the cancer cells.

Cesium has been proven to get into cancer cells, when other nutrients cannot. The cesium:
1) Makes the cancer cells alkaline (Note: the BLOOD is NOT made alkaline, only the inside of the cancer cells),
2) Limits the intake of glucose into the cell (thus starving the cell and making the cell "sick" from lack of food),
3) Neutralizes the lactic acid (which is actually what causes the cell to multiply uncontrollably), and
4) Stops the fermentation process, which is a second affect of limiting the glucose.

A practitioner of cesium chloride was Hans A. Nieper, M.D., (1928-1998), who practiced in Hannover, Germany. Many celebrities and executives from America went to Germany to be treated by Dr. Nieper, including one President of the United States.

Liquid ionic cesium chloride works by making cancer cells highly alkaline, typically 8.0 and above, thus making them so "sick" the immune system may attack and kill them.

Cesium chloride not only kills cancer cells indirectly, it immediately stops the metastasis of the cancer; can start shrinking tumor masses within weeks; and almost always stops the pain of cancer within 24 to 48 hours, depending on what is causing the pain.

Technically, the cesium chloride does not directly kill the cancer cells. What is does is allow the immune system to kill the cancer cells. When you see a statement that cesium chloride does not kill cancer cells, that is at least partially correct.

However, it is also probable that cesium chloride reverts cancer cells into normal cells. This can happen if the cesium chloride kills the microbes inside the cancer cells (by its high alkalinity) and the cancer cells are thus able to revert into normal cells. This is actually the ideal way to cure cancer because there is far less debris for the body to get rid of. Note that it is the CANCER CELLS, not the blood serum, that rises to 8.0 pH or above. The body keeps the blood serum within a small range of pH, around 7.4.

The Cesium Chloride Protocol directly targets cancer cells. Normal cells do not ingest the cesium chloride.
In some ways, the situation with cesium chloride seems somewhat similar to that of the apricot-pit extract Laetrile
cesium chloride for cancer therapy should not be confused with the use of radioactive cesium 137 an artificial isotope produced in nuclear reactors

thanks to mightysuntzu for your clear explanation of B17 and to waterfast and kat also to kat when i talk about pH levels 8 i am talking about the pH of the cell not the blood but thank you for pointing out my errors this will help people interested in this to look out for effects to your health.

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I had brain cancer when I was 16 and I had radiation treatments and I've been cancer free for 8.5 years. I know there are cures for cancer, and David Icke talks about a doctor who could cure cancer, and he found out cancer was a fungus. Also, Dr. Mercola had a documentary about sodium bicarbonate and something else to cure cancer. The problem is that the cures are really cheap, and the medical industry shuts down the cures and sticks with the expensive treatments, thus serving the medical industrial complex.

There are at least 10 cures for cancer out there, and definitely raw foods, and I saw you mention something about coffee, which I happen to drink every day. Also, green tea/black tea is chock full of antioxidants, as is really dark chocolate (85% cacao or more is best). There are more than enough ways to cure and prevent cancer, and it all starts by having a great immune system, and having an excellent diet. Also, exercising regularly...it's a lot easier to do that than to get sick with cancer, or any other disease.
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i have to say well done you are what i call a cancer warrior a survivor and with conventional treatment can i add about coffee in the gerson therapy is not taken by drinking it it is use as a detox i dont remember to correct way of doing it but it goes something like this take a certain amount of water and 3 teaspoons of organic coffee to it boil it let it cool to room temp. put it in a bucket with a thin tube coming out of the bucket raise the bucket above your head lie on the floor on your side insert the thin tube into ur rectum and let the coffee go inside your body hold it for 15 min then release it this is the best form of detox so ive been told, the coffee has different effects on the body this way it cleans the colon of toxins and helps the liver clean itself but drinking coffee is bad for the body thanks for your post i am trying to narrow down all the cures for cancer to a roundabout way of 1 or 2 that can work going off how cancer works in the body and the effects of nutrition vitamins minerals have on cancer because the field of nutrition needs more study god we know more about the moon than what we eat
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my uncle was told 8 weeks ago he has lymphoid cancer copd at stage 4 (fast spreading cancer) he has a oxygen tank and mask to breath occasionaly so i asked him to try a raw fruit and veg diet so he did we juiced all the food and i used apricot kernels and crushed them into the juice and he could only drink 3-5 cups of juice a day the cancer was in both his lungs.
After 3 weeks of this diet the left lung cancer was shrinking and the right lung cancer went doormant so it was working so i left this diet with his wife to continue which she did i went back to see him and i was shocked to see him sat there smoking i asked why are you still smoking he said what have i got left nothing i said this is a chance for you to try to save yourself nothing else out there is working and while you was having the juice things were getting better he told me in the 3 weeks of the juice taking he never smoked then under stress of his situation he started to smoke again he told me he was smoking 30 to 40 a day he also said when he was having the juice the pain was less and started to gain weight he was very thin he could not walk up the stairs without stopping 4 times to breath when he was having the juice he walked up the stairs and stopped once to breath this shows something was right i dont know if it was the kernels or the juice or both but it showed good signs but he never drank the juice after i seen him smoking he went back to a diet of fats salts sugars a western diet now i got a phone call today he has been rush to hospital getting pumped with so much drugs for the pain the doctors said get all your family here right now its important i got there and a priest is sat in the room blessing him he is struggling to breath the cancer has spread into his liver its started to grow again in his lungs and has spread up to his neck the doctor said there is nothing that can be done just stay with him he also said when he dies we will not resuscitate him i asked how many days will he live the doctor said im sorry but were talking hours here not days just spend time with him i had to leave i didnt want to see another family member die this way i would love to tell you a miracle story that all went well but i cant if he stayed on the juice diet maybe i could who knows but the signs when he was on the juice diet where very good which gives me hope.
My theory on it is this from other studies the B17 in the apricot kernel kills cancer which i think it was the juice was giving all the antioxidants, vitamins, and minerals to the body which boosted the immune system which in turn was fighting and winning the fight with cancer cells NOW IF WE CAN SPEED THIS UP NATURALLY CANCER WONT EVEN HAVE A CHANCE BUT HOW CAN WE SPEED IT UP...i dont know yet
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Well, you uncle should have stayed on your juicing regimen. It's a shame that most people, even when faced with mortal danger, will still do the very things that caused that mortal danger in the first place. My grandfather has had a heart attack and a quadruple bypass surgery, and still eats a SAD diet, going out to eat at least once a day. I figure he is enjoying the foods he eats, so that has to count for something, but his heart is not enjoying them. Good health is a choice, and if you're really committed, it can happen for you. If you're not committed enough, it is bound to fail.
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I had brain cancer when I was 16 and I had radiation treatments and I've been cancer free for 8.5 years. I know there are cures for cancer, and David Icke talks about a doctor who could cure cancer, and he found out cancer was a fungus. Also, Dr. Mercola had a documentary about sodium bicarbonate and something else to cure cancer. The problem is that the cures are really cheap, and the medical industry shuts down the cures and sticks with the expensive treatments, thus serving the medical industrial complex.

There are at least 10 cures for cancer out there, and definitely raw foods, and I saw you mention something about coffee, which I happen to drink every day. Also, green tea/black tea is chock full of antioxidants, as is really dark chocolate (85% cacao or more is best). There are more than enough ways to cure and prevent cancer, and it all starts by having a great immune system, and having an excellent diet. Also, exercising regularly...it's a lot easier to do that than to get sick with cancer, or any other disease.

If you believe in anti-oxidants, why would you choose the most compromised forms of them?

Coffee/Tea vs Fruit/Vegetable Juice ?

Chocolate vs Whole Fruit ?


Please do not tell me that they have more anti-oxidants than fruit, because that is not true.

Coffee is not good for you, it is a drug delivery system and so is tea.

People that drink the stuff just like getting high off of the caffeine and are so unhealthy from it, by the time they realize its bad for them, they would feel like zombies if they stopped drinking it...

Well its never too late to stop making up excusing for these addictions.

If you are serious about getting healthier and combating things like cancer, you need to be willing to start off with the right foot forward.

This means a Raw Fruit/Veggie Diet with plenty of Water and Exercise every day.
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i back 1 million % what waterfast says the right food, exercise water and sunshine. This is what man did and ate at the start of human creation they didnt go to kfc mcdonalds and supermarkets they hunted for food = exercise and sunshine and ate fruit and veg because weapons for killing were not around then so meat was not in the diet also coke-a-cola came millions of years later so water (the drink of champions) was all there was they must have been superfit and healthy but going back to what you said about people doing things that are deadly to them i agree with you just like your grandfather the addiction to food drink or smokes is a fatal one so it has to be a total lifestyle change to survive but because we are programed that way its very hard to change it takes some inspiration or told you are going to die if you do not or some energy force changing your way but some people dont get this option some do and ignore it... me i would do whatever it took to survive a life threatening illness i would try any means to beat it but prevention is better than cure

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my uncle passed away today at 11:30am the whole family is in bits right now they are praising me for what i did even 2 doctors told me i had the answer 1 of the doctors could not belive at one point the fast spreading cancer went dormant and one of them was shrinking when he tested it to see how bad it was speading but because he smoked again and stopped the juice diet it got the better of him. So there is another family member i have just lost to cancer why is this happening to people we can travel to other planets yet we cant save our people from cancer i have no words to explain how i feel numb and disblief someone who was here is now gone forever i write this with tears in my eyes sorry
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So sorry to hear about your loss Matrix.
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Good info related to cancer.
Its being very informative to me as i was not much aware of it.
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Cancer Therapy:
If you do NOT have Cancer
As a preventative Dr. Krebs asserts that 7 to 10 apricot seeds per day will make it impossible to develop cancer in one's lifetime. A easy to remember... Rule of Thumb: Try to eat one apricot kernel for each 20 pound of body weight, daily. Example: 180 lb = 9 apricot seeds daily. One or two Vitamin B17 tablets ( 100 mg ) is an acceptable supplemental dosage per day. Also, if you eat three apples a day, seeds and all, the seeds in the three apples are sufficient Vitamin B17. 3 x 30 = That's about 90 apples per month.
If one is really serious about their health... We suggest: Apricot seeds ( whole food is best ) or Vitamin B17 ( 100 mg ) along with digestive enzymes with at least 3 mg of Chymotrypsin, if these proteolytic enzymes are to be used as a digestive aid the recommended dosage is 1 or 2 tablets just prior to a meal. The proteolytic enzymes should also be taken on an empty stomach, for the benefits are many. Drink plenty of room temperature high pH spring or mineral water. Finally, to maintain health, the diet should consist of 60% alkaline forming foods and 40% acid forming foods.
Balancing the pH is a major step toward well-being and greater health. The body has to have a balanced pH like most living things on earth or it does not function correctly. The alkaline level is very important because research has already proven that disease cannot survive in an alkaline state and yet they thrive in an acidic environment.

If yo have Cancer
Vitamin B17 ( laetrile - amygdalin ) 500 mg: Two ( 2 ) of these tablets taken three ( 3 ) times daily. This is nontoxic, however you may get very nauseous and have gastric upset if you start out with the full amount. The tablet size is 500 mg. If you have difficulty, the tablets may be broken up and added to soft food. You have to decide weather to have an empty stomach or not. After the initial 60 days of this amount of vitamin B17 a maintenance dose of 3 tablets per day for the following six months to a year is recommended according to the severity of the cancer. If the cancer had metastasised, take three tablets a day for life. It is in Dr. Krebs opinion ( the vitamin B17 discoverer ) to take three tablets for life even if the cancer hadn't spread.
For the apricot seeds and/or tablets ( start out with a low dosage and build up ). It is okay if you cannot handle the full dosages that we speak of - use Ginger tea to stop upsets. Some patients ( according to the severity ) take up to eighteen 500 mg tablets per day for the first month.
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Cancer Therapy:
If you do NOT have Cancer
As a preventative Dr. Krebs asserts that 7 to 10 apricot seeds per day will make it impossible to develop cancer in one's lifetime. A easy to remember... Rule of Thumb: Try to eat one apricot kernel for each 20 pound of body weight, daily. Example: 180 lb = 9 apricot seeds daily. One or two Vitamin B17 tablets ( 100 mg ) is an acceptable supplemental dosage per day. Also, if you eat three apples a day, seeds and all, the seeds in the three apples are sufficient Vitamin B17. 3 x 30 = That's about 90 apples per month.
If one is really serious about their health... We suggest: Apricot seeds ( whole food is best ) or Vitamin B17 ( 100 mg ) along with digestive enzymes with at least 3 mg of Chymotrypsin, if these proteolytic enzymes are to be used as a digestive aid the recommended dosage is 1 or 2 tablets just prior to a meal. The proteolytic enzymes should also be taken on an empty stomach, for the benefits are many. Drink plenty of room temperature high pH spring or mineral water. Finally, to maintain health, the diet should consist of 60% alkaline forming foods and 40% acid forming foods.
Balancing the pH is a major step toward well-being and greater health. The body has to have a balanced pH like most living things on earth or it does not function correctly. The alkaline level is very important because research has already proven that disease cannot survive in an alkaline state and yet they thrive in an acidic environment.

If yo have Cancer
Vitamin B17 ( laetrile - amygdalin ) 500 mg: Two ( 2 ) of these tablets taken three ( 3 ) times daily. This is nontoxic, however you may get very nauseous and have gastric upset if you start out with the full amount. The tablet size is 500 mg. If you have difficulty, the tablets may be broken up and added to soft food. You have to decide weather to have an empty stomach or not. After the initial 60 days of this amount of vitamin B17 a maintenance dose of 3 tablets per day for the following six months to a year is recommended according to the severity of the cancer. If the cancer had metastasised, take three tablets a day for life. It is in Dr. Krebs opinion ( the vitamin B17 discoverer ) to take three tablets for life even if the cancer hadn't spread.
For the apricot seeds and/or tablets ( start out with a low dosage and build up ). It is okay if you cannot handle the full dosages that we speak of - use Ginger tea to stop upsets. Some patients ( according to the severity ) take up to eighteen 500 mg tablets per day for the first month.
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I think if one eats a healthy enough diet, and takes care of their body, certain dieases can be prevented.
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That is true about looking after yourself but what if you already have cancer now you have a battle on your hands to fight it with the best means you can and thats what im looking for a cure or therapy to work but thanks for your post it all helps the fight
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I lost my childhood friend to ovarian cancer. She died in a hospice a few months ago. She was my best friend and I had lost touch with her for a few months. Within that short period of time she was diagnosed, treated and the treatments failed.

I knew something was wrong. I heard from a mutual friend that she had been taken to a hospice. By then her cell phone was off, she wasn't taking any calls and she was ready to move on.

We'd lost touch because of my travel. I'd sent her a postcard and never heard back - I didn't think anything of it.

She passed away after being in the hospice for two days.

She found out she had cancer because she was infertile. She died married to a loving man but never had a child of her own in life. She did have nephews and nieces she loved.

Now I have another dear friend who has cancer and he's struggling through chemo. His situation is far more grim in that he doesn't have life insurance and he'll be leaving three little ones to his wife.

He has tried the alkaline approach and nothing got better. The doctors emphasized he needed more protein in his diet and adding the protein back did help.

I would say to you all that when this happens - and sadly it will happen to each and every one of you in your life. Each and every one of you will be losing family members and loved ones to cancer and you need to be prepared. Statistically it is going to happen to you unless you're living in a cave.

Just be prepared to be supportive and to give comfort to those who need it. I think that nutrition, health and a positive mindset are paramount to recovery but you'll need to be level headed and objective.

Don't fall prey to scams but at the same time think out of the box and help your friend or loved one laugh and smile because they'll need it.

I've noticed there are a lot of "cancer cure" scams out there on the 'Net but at the same time I don't fully trust the doctors.

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I actually don't have idea of cancer much, but these post is much creating awareness about cancer and i also being aware of it.Thanks for sharing.
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