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Old 12-03-2011, 06:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Longer life - Anti Age Fight !

Would you like to live longer and healthier ?

I am really excited about breakthroughs in the fields of medicine, genetics, physiology and food science (Bromatology).

Maybe you have heard about SENS and Aubrey de Grey.

Maybe are his claims far fetched and over the top but I believe that one should at least try to live healthier and longer.

How do you fight with the ageing process and when did you start ?

Let's start a discussion here.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am really excited about breakthroughs in the fields of medicine, genetics, physiology and food science (Bromatology).
So am I. Despite various claims, calorie restriction is still the only proven way to delay aging and increase life span.
And even that is so little understood; it might not actually be restriction of calories that causes the effect.



The results from animal experiments are dramatic, and I'm quite surprised that people aren't any more interested in this subject.

My favourite book on calorie restriction is "The CR Way". It has lots of practical advice.
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You shouldn't forget about the genetic heritage here. Not all people tolerate calorie restriction the same way.

On the other hand I agree, too much food kills!
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Would you like to live longer and healthier ?

I am really excited about breakthroughs in the fields of medicine, genetics, physiology and food science (Bromatology).

How do you fight with the ageing process and when did you start ?
To me, advances in science are a mixed blessing - they hurt as much or more than they help. I think we would all live longer and healthier by adapting a more primitive lifestyle - old fashioned unprocessed foods, regular physical activity, slower, less stressful lifestyle with less emphasis on possessions, and avoidance of modern technology and the health hazards associated with it.

The other half is to eat as nutrient-dense a diet as possible. Between smoothies, fresh juices and salads, I eat the equivalent of 15 servings of raw fruits and vegetables a day. I eat some wild Alaskan salmon or sardines regularly. I don't generally eat any food that has a list of ingredients, or little nutritional value. I add things like chlorella, spirulina, maca powder, bee pollen, lots of herbs and spices, probiotics, aloe juice, etc. to my daily routine. I take 15-20 different supplements. I ground my body 12-15 hours a day. I meditate every day. I have a positive and enthusiastic outlook on life. I laugh alot. I help others.

If you do these things, you probably won't have to rely on breakthroughs in modern science to live a long time. In fact, the more you avoid modern science, the better off you'll be. I'm talking about all the harmful things that come along with modern science: toxic chemicals in the environment, fake food, genetically-modified organisms, massive amounts of radiation exposure from all our electronic devices, medical treatments and procedures that do as much harm as good, vaccines that cause neurological damage, drugs that poison you at the same time as they're relieving your symptoms, etc.

Don't be so easily seduced by the glamour of modern science. It might come back to bite you.

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Don't be so easily seduced by the glamour of modern science. It might come back to bite you.
Statistics suggest human beings have been living longer as technology as increased, Cave men who lived naturally had a life expectancy at about 20-30 years old , In the middle ages it was 40-50, a couple hundred years ago it increased to 60-70 and now it's starting to reach 80.


It's also really weird your insulting modern science by using a computer , which was invented using modern science.

More on topic I'm really interested in increasing human lifespans, especially through trans humanistic means (which is way far off from now but still) Essentially you age because your DNA in your cells decay over time(every time they split ) , this increases the chance of cancer and all kinds of diseases and disorders.

If there was a way to repair the damage to your cells theoretically you could live forever (baring no deathly accidents/injury)


I'm not sure how the calorie restriction works, but I can only speculate it causes your sells to split less often sue to energy concerns and thus your DNA dose not become as damaged over time.
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Statistics suggest human beings have been living longer as technology as increased, Cave men who lived naturally had a life expectancy at about 20-30 years old , In the middle ages it was 40-50, a couple hundred years ago it increased to 60-70 and now it's starting to reach 80.
People live longer today (on average) because science has virtually conquered infectious diseases, infant mortality is way down, and drugs keep people alive well after they should be dead. Average life span statistics are misleading; they're not a good indicator of the quality of health.

In western cultures, fully 95% of doctor visits are now due to "stress-related" diseases, caused by modern lifestyles, which include scientific "advances". Prior to 1950, they accounted for only 5%. I stand by my assertion that modern technology causes as much harm as it helps.
While the computer is certainly a valuable tool, computers (and other high-tech appliances) pump out generous amounts of electromagnetic radiation that will cause you health problems eventually - problems that didn't exist 100 years ago.

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I'm 22 at the moment.

I'm giving a lot of thought to my long-term life plans (long term meaning until the day I die) and remaining young was one the stunts I'd like to pull. My ways to remain young and look hot even when I'm a granny:

1. Getting a sufficient amount of sleep. According to sleep research, the vast majority of our society is sleep deprived. Most people need between 8-10 hours of sleep.

2. Eating healthy food. Obviously, eating crap with tons of chemicals is not that good. Healthy and balanced diet made from organic foods should make a real difference over 10-20 years.

3. Exercising. I think that most people who are over 35 don't look that hot simply because they don't exercise enough. I'm not even talking about health benefits here.

4. Dropping ♥♥♥♥♥♥ habits. I don't drink alcohol and I don't smoke. I have plenty of things to work on, though.

5. Meditation. There was a study done where people who meditated were 5 years or more younger than their physical age. To lazy to post a link, google it.

6. Peace of mind. I think inner peace definitely makes you stay young longer, because people waste so much energy on unnecessary stress, worries, anger, grudges and other crap like that. I bet you save up quite a lot energy if you drop all that non-sense.

I'm nowhere near good in any of these points, but I assume if I'd work on all of them, I could really improve until the age I'm 30, and then I'd have good habits for life.

We'll see how it goes

P.S. I'm also interested in biokinesis, but that's probably more for IM forums
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