A Way to eat whatever you wish?

[cheesedip1]

I was thinking about a book I read, called "The Secret Guide to Health", by Wayne Green. He gives credit to the raw food diet for his abundant and excellent health. He does though, eat a little raw meat, although 90 percent of what he eats, isn't meat.

Anyways, I was reading one of his articles on raw food or something and he mentioned a way to eat whatever you want, sort of...

I'll illustrate an example.

Basically, let's say you have a cookie. What you can do is just chew the cookie up in your mouth , but then not swallow it, just spit it out in the trash or somewhere else where the remains can be disposed of properly. This way, you can enjoy the food, without actually putting the crap (sugar etc.) in your body.

Now, granted, you still will probably want to brush your teeth after eating something processed or sugary. Also, you will probably still be hungry so you will have to eat something else. Also, it might not seem as satisfying.



Some methods that I used to use for trying junky foods:

1. Imagine yourself eating the food. You can remember the taste if you try hard enough in your mind. (You probably have to have tried the food at least once before for this to work.) You don't have to eat it if you can just imagine yourself eating it. (Try lucid dream eating also)

2. Once you've tried a food at least once, remind yourself that you don't need it anymore, and just choose to eat to live instead. (instead of live to eat)

3. Every christmas or so, one of my relatives would bake a cake. I told myself that every 3rd time or so, I could have a piece of cake. The next two times i had to skip it though.



--Take from this what you will....

[missbhaven]

Or can take smaller bites and chew it until it is absolutely nothing but saliva.
That way you can make it last as absolutely long as possible.
Most of the digestive enzymes are in your mouth. The longer you chew on an item, the more enzyme you are producing to break it down.
It's one of the major arguments on why you shouldn't just drink your food.

[russianrocket]

that's actually considered an eating disorder. not to mention, it will really screw with your body. The mouth is what tells the body what it's eating. The body will still think it's eating, and act accordingly. The taste of sugar, will cause the same reactions in your body, as actually eating the sugar. Tho, some will also argue, that there is nothing wrong with tricking your body.

Plus, the strongest taste buds are usually in the back. Notice how something tastes a lot better when you swallow, then when you are chewing?


Do you know how I get away with eating what ever I wish? I eat what ever I wish, and get over it.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

that's actually considered an eating disorder. not to mention, it will really screw with your body. The mouth is what tells the body what it's eating. The body will still think it's eating, and act accordingly. The taste of sugar, will cause the same reactions in your body, as actually eating the sugar. Tho, some will also argue, that there is nothing wrong with tricking your body.

I thought Bulimia is when the person swallows their food and then regurgitates it later...if that was the eating disorder you are referring to?

Do you know how I get away with eating what ever I wish? I eat what ever I wish, and get over it.

This is my method as well...but I'm lucky to not put on weight too easily.

[Peterw]

I pretty much eat what I want as well now then go and work out really hard which I do anyway.

I find the trick is programming yourself for what you 'want' to eat. Most of the time I eat well but I don't hold back when I want to indulge. Still making great progress with reversing that gut and flab I accumulated by enjoying my late 20s and early 30s so much... Almost there...

Time for a chocolate I think

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by elucidate

I thought Bulimia is when the person swallows their food and then regurgitates it later...if that was the eating disorder you are referring to?



This is my method as well...but I'm lucky to not put on weight too easily.

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I do put on weight if I eat completely like I want. When I'm happy, and busy, then the way I want to eat, changes to. I think that emotional eating is what causes weight gain, while eating what you want when you are happy, is different. But maybe that's just me.

[elucidate]

Ok...never heard of that before. Thanks.

[Swifthawk]

These really do not seem like ways to eat whatever you wish. Technically, none of them are even "eating."

A man's time would be better spent realizing that if you are going to succeed in one thing, you have to sacrifice other things. If that thing you are trying to succeed in is important and good enough, then that sacrifice will not even seem like one, because you will be giving up something insignificant, like having a cookie.

The only way I can think of to be able to eat whatever you want is to have the lifestyle of an elite-level athlete. Only then will you have a chance to "outrun" the effects of a poor diet by a body that expends a great amount of calories.

During my peak times in track as a thrower I would eat everything I could, from healthy salads to cookies and McDonald's, and my weight would stay the same. My organ health I can't say for sure.

[missbhaven]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

I do put on weight if I eat completely like I want. When I'm happy, and busy, then the way I want to eat, changes to. I think that emotional eating is what causes weight gain, while eating what you want when you are happy, is different. But maybe that's just me.

So, my advice to people to laugh it off IS really the best advice. Laughing the best calorie killer out there!

[James81]

I have a much simpler way that worked REALLY WELL for me for several months when I tried it.

Anytime I wanted to indulge in an unhealthy food, I would load myself up with fruits and vegetables first. Like, for lunch I would pack an apple, an orange, a banana, and a bag of carrots. I would eat those first (and by the time I was done, I was *close* to getting full). Then I would eat the unhealthy thing. In this case, the unhealthy thing wasn't really all THAT unhealthy...usually a turkey sandwich or peanut butter and jelly or something like that.

Basically, it was a way to exercise portion control on the foods that were bad for me while still leaving a meal feeling really fulfilled. The last thing I would taste would be the unhealthy thing, but I'd still be full and satisfied.

[cheesedip1]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

Plus, the strongest taste buds are usually in the back. Notice how something tastes a lot better when you swallow, then when you are chewing?

Yeah, that's why my method isn't always completly satisfying...

[Swifthawk]

Originally Posted by James81

I have a much simpler way that worked REALLY WELL for me for several months when I tried it.

Anytime I wanted to indulge in an unhealthy food, I would load myself up with fruits and vegetables first. Like, for lunch I would pack an apple, an orange, a banana, and a bag of carrots. I would eat those first (and by the time I was done, I was *close* to getting full). Then I would eat the unhealthy thing. In this case, the unhealthy thing wasn't really all THAT unhealthy...usually a turkey sandwich or peanut butter and jelly or something like that.

Basically, it was a way to exercise portion control on the foods that were bad for me while still leaving a meal feeling really fulfilled. The last thing I would taste would be the unhealthy thing, but I'd still be full and satisfied.

I know of a popular strength guru that gives similar advice but his is to have a protein shake before the meal. I've had many protein shakes in my lifetime and they definitely make you think twice as they can be pretty filling.

[Medusa locked]

Ok, I'm gonna be blunt here and say that some these methods of eating what you want are a little neurotic.

Chewing but not swallowing!??

I also disagree with deprivation mindset.

No, really. The most effective way to eat what you want is to train yourself to want more of the wholesome, nutritious food and learn to look at the less palatable qualities of the junk. This may take a while but its worth the discipline.

The way to enjoy good food is basing it on more than just taste and texture.
How clean does your system feel after?
How do you feel after eating clean food vs fatty or excessively sweet food?
How's your energy for several hours later?
Do you feel sluggish or bloated?
Or do you feel nourished and able to focus, function and like you can move and breath easily?
I'm not saying to ignore taste and texture but to use taste and texture only as part of the equation in food appreciation.

I will add that there is something to using food sequencing to your advantage. What I find myself doing is, when I look forward to a particular food, lets its SWEET dark chocolate, I will want to enjoy that as much as possible. So, I will gear myself more towards SAVOURY tastes. Like that, when I get around to the SWEET dark chocolate, I know that usually find myself really savour the taste. I also like to make sure I've had some fresh greens in my system before I have the chocolate so to avoid feeling excessively sluggish afterwards.

Its also about keeping a good balance of fresh,
Clean and lush content over contents that aren't, and instead of using neurotic portion control methods or swallowed mastications, take it easy on yourself. So, you liked that one cookie, maybe you liked ten, your only human. After ten though, your gut might not be feeling so good and it might be in your interest to clean that up. Use that signal to guide you to the type of food that your body might really appreciate.

[cheesedip1]

Originally Posted by Medusa locked

Ok, I'm gonna be blunt here and say that some these methods of eating what you want are a little neurotic.

Chewing but not swallowing!??

I also disagree with deprivation mindset.

I never said anything about depriving oneself. It would take more food for a person to be full, though.

[Medusa locked]

Originally Posted by cheesedip1

I never said anything about depriving oneself. It would take more food for a person to be full, though.

My statement about deprivation mindset was more directed toward the dieters and calorie counters. However, by spitting out the food again each time, does that not induce some sense of deprivation? By not actually swallowing, could you not end up associating a sense of never actually recieving the food you crave?

I guess, if this method had to have any useful application, it would have to be a short term one. By not actually ingesting, you leave room for more nutritious food and as long as you make a commitment to eat those foods, then maybe, swallowed cravings could be a way to gratify the individual psychologically. From that sense of gratification, its possible that the individual might be in a better attitude and therefore more willing to eat well.

[cheesedip1]

Yeah, I think in the long run, if you really think some food isn't good for you, it's best to just avoid it altogether.

[Razia]

Its actually some thing different and not aware of, good suggestion but still its tough to spit food you love the most.