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Old 11-09-2006, 02:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Something that seasoned sungazers say is possible, harnessing the power of the sun so that you might not have to eat solid food again! As well as many other health related benefits.

I won't go into much detail, I will let the website explain itself. I also suggest doing your own research into the subject. You can look up many other sources on google as well as people's experiences with it.

If you do decide to try this out, ONLY perform the sungazing process during the safe period! If you do a search on google for more information on just 'sungazing' itself, you will come across some stories of people developing blindness etc. These people have sungazed during the un-safe periods, DO NOT DO THIS! The safe period is 1/2 hour after sunrise and 1/2 hour before sunrise when enough of the earth's atmosphere is diluting the sun's UV ray's allowing for a UV index of 0, which has no harmful effects on your eyes; however, if you suffer medical conditions you may have problems - consult a physician.

It is something that I plan to try out after a few conditions have been met in my life:

1. live somewhere warmer
2. not working a job


I've always thought about all the extra time I would have if I did not have to eat...


Here it is: Solar Healing Center

More information: Sungazing, aka Sun Gazing, Solar Gazing, Sun Staring, Solar Yoga - Some Notes

Detailed scientific hypothesis: Sungazing: Dr. Sudhir Shah on Hira Manek - Sungazing and Fasting

Here is also a sungazing survey, of 56 people who have come forward to participate in the survey who sungaze. The First Sungazing List Group Sungazer’s Survey

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Old 11-09-2006, 03:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Humans do not possess clorophyll.
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you for that. Truely something that can not happen.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thank you for that. Truely something that can not happen.
Just not in your reality.
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Old 11-09-2006, 02:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you take a step back and think about it.. I think it could be possible to sustain oneself through the method of sungazing. I mean essentially when we eat vegetables, we are indirectly taking in energy that was provided by the sun. If you eat animals, that's even one level further away (as you are eating the animals that have eaten the plants that have gotten it's nutrients/energy from the sun).

So my point is that if humans have found a way to get energy from the sun directly, then you're skipping any indirect method of obtaining energy.. Which would be ideal..

Nevertheless, I've heard that NASA has found this topic of interest and are testing it's success to apply it to when astronauts go to space. Essentially it would save them $$ every time they send people into space, as food and shuttle weight would be reduced...

Interesting subject...
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It would certainly be interesting. As a photographer and sungazer, I'd technically be 'eating' light, so I'd feel that much closer to my medium. ("Painting with light" is the latin basis for 'photographer')
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Old 11-15-2006, 07:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have been interested in Sun Gazing and other forms of inedia (breatharianism, fasting etc.) since I first read about it a few years ago.
Unfortunately, I think that the quality of the sun where I live (northern Sweden, not too far from the polar circle), would make Sun Gazing difficult.
Maybe I'll start with it if I move abroad.
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Old 11-15-2006, 08:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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never eat again?
wow, that doesn't seem like very much fun at all...
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Old 11-15-2006, 07:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I once had someone tell me that sunlight is "rich in nutrients... like vit. D."
I didn't know whether to be astonished or start laughing. (Your skin converts pre-D compounds into D when sunlight hits it. The vitamin is in your skin... not the sun.)

I seriously doubt that anyone could sustain themselves on light alone... there is a reason plants are on the bottom of the food chain: they are capable of harnessing solar energy and using it to fuel metabolism. Vitamin D is about the closest we get to harnessing the sun directly. But as far as sugar conversion goes... we can't. We lack the chemicals. As GreatnessBlog said, we don't have chorlophyll.

Sorry. I'm beyond skeptical. The "hypothesis" is very poorly written, let me give you an example:

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It’s just fantastic, and absolutely amazing, but this is not a myth.
Oh, well, if you say so. I'm totally converted. Sign me up.
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Old 11-15-2006, 07:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If eating was just a way to keep my body working as efficiently as possible, this might all be interesting. To me it is much more than that. I *enjoy* my food. I especially like sharing this enjoyment with my friends by going out to diner. Actually one of my goals is to learn to cook better, so I can just invite them at my place. I can make edible things that sometimes actually taste good, but this is really an area where I can improve.

I sometimes wonder why people feel guilty about just enjoy eating. Is this some sort of symptom of Lightworker syndrome that steve talked about in his blog? After all eating reminds you that you are a human of flesh and blood grounded on this earth.
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Old 01-15-2007, 06:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Chlorophyll is just a tool, an energy converter. Maybe human body can develop its own sunlight converter or already has it.
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The main reason to get into this would be (well to test it out but) if the food crisis erupts. Which is looking more and more likely every year... I have posted another link containing a video of GM food and I advise you to watch it.
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I have been interested in Sun Gazing and other forms of inedia (breatharianism, fasting etc.) since I first read about it a few years ago.
Same here. I came across it about 8 years ago and practiced for a while. Some of my taoist books had specific exercises that I tried out, as did some of my uber eccentric diet sources, such as this: Sungazing, aka Sun Gazing, Solar Gazing, Sun Staring, Solar Yoga - Some Notes

The idea of being able to only eat when I wanted to was very interesting. It would have liberated me to walk wherever I wanted and not worry about making money to buy food. I'd simply be a happy Taoist wandering the Earth realm for a while. It's still kind of romantic to me, but for a while I've been trying to stay somewhat grounded (one of the main reasons I eat meat).
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Just not in your reality.
"Reality" has to be my least favorite word. Anytime somebody says something isn't possible, there's always another person who has to say this.....
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Something that seasoned sungazers say is possible, harnessing the power of the sun so that you might not have to eat solid food again! As well as many other health related benefits.
So sayeth those who have been staring at the sun too long!!!!

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I won't go into much detail, I will let the website explain itself. You can look up many other sources on google as well as people's experiences with it.
Good grief, are you honestly so gullable to believe everything you read on the web?

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If you do decide to try this out, ONLY perform the sungazing process during the safe period! If you do a search on google for more information on just 'sungazing' itself, you will come across some stories of people developing blindness etc. These people have sungazed during the un-safe periods, DO NOT DO THIS! The safe period is 1/2 hour after sunrise and 1/2 hour before sunrise when enough of the earth's atmosphere is diluting the sun's UV ray's allowing for a UV index of 0, which has no harmful effects on your eyes; however, if you suffer medical conditions you may have problems - consult a physician.
Do not seek a a physician, GO GET COUNSELLING!!!

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It is something that I plan to try out after a few conditions have been met in my life:

1. live somewhere warmer
2. not working a job
Well yes, you cerntainly won't need a job to pay for the food anymore!!!

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I've always thought about all the extra time I would have if I did not have to EAT...
Honestly what a pile of poo (I'll bet there are people out there who eat that as well....JEEZ!!)....I have never heard such nonsense being quoted in a long time. I think you have already stopped eating food by the sounds of it.

Well you know my views on this topic.

I am going for my breakfast, and will a) enjoy it and get b) get proper benefits from it.

I hope there is no one who is easily led by this sort of stuff

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Gordon, It is close-minded people like you that keep this world living the way it is... Why do you take my word above that of a doctor, politician, or seemingly even your own parents. Who said you have to believe everything I say? Do your own research into the topic as I have, I am only here to bring the message of this to the this board. Do a search for "sungazing" and start doing your own research, do not shoot the messenger.

Instead of merely dismissing something as ludicrous. Do you not realize what that has done in the past? Hell we would still be living on a flat earth in the center of the universe with only 7 planets in our solar system and have no form of technology if people like you were allowed to keep the reins of society.

I am not trying to be harsh, but you cannot dismiss something so easily without first putting it into practice for yourself. If 50 years ago I were to tell you that this little tiny device in my hand could talk to someone on the other side of the planet you'd call me crazy. Do you not see the flaw in your so called "logic"?

Until you personally put this technique into practice you are not in any way an authority on the subject. You are speaking merely from your own limited experience, and worse than simply taking no stance on the subject, you're indicating that you won't even experiment on it yourself, and so prevent others from further research and possibly attempting this themselves. Until you actually put it into practice and conduct the experiment, and find out one way or another, it's my opinion that you should just keep your mouth closed, rather than trying to repel others from something you know absolutely nothing of yourself.

This is also a practice that has many other benefits other than the possibility of never eating again. See the survery for some of them: The First Sungazing List Group Sungazer’s Survey

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interesting concept. it definetily makes sense, since people who live in countries with lots of sunlight are generally happier and more open to life. i am thinking it is on the same lines as healing, only that this way you are taking energy from the sun. both ways are basically filling yourself up with life force energy. i do think it has a definite possiblity but i also think the human body would have to become much lighter for us to completely abandon food and feed on light, which would probably take some years of evolution to achieve. perhaps our body has more potential than we think.
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Nevertheless, I've heard that NASA has found this topic of interest and are testing it's success to apply it to when astronauts go to space. Essentially it would save them $$ every time they send people into space, as food and shuttle weight would be reduced...
Could you substantiate that rumour? There's nothing on NASA's site about it, nor about the guy who is rumoured to have been studied by NASA. There is a sun-gazing mission, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

I think it would be fantastic if this were possible, but I also think it's ludicrous to ignore the vast amount of evidence that shows that not eating is fatal for we mere mortals. We're restricted by our lack of chlorophyll (as has already been pointed out), and by the simple (and as yet unsuccessfully challenged, despite many attempts) law of conservation of energy. We use more energy than we could absorb from the sun.

tropicality: You mention logic, research and experimentation. These are all components of science, yet so far there has been no substantiated scientific analysis of this phenomenon. That detailed scientific hypothesis you linked to was apparently published in a medical journal the website of which no longer exists (that of course doesn't mean the article nor the journal no longer exist). There is no mention of the publication of an analysis of the data gathered when Hira Ratan Manek was observed. The author of the hypothesis even stated that "he does not claim that things presented here are all the way scientific".

Unless there is clear, non-anecdotal substantiation of this phenomenon, from multiple reliable sources, I think you will encounter much resistance. But good luck in over-coming that resistance

All that said, I'm still happy to watch the sun rise or set, because its beauty gives me emotional sustenance, not physical.
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My name is SueB and I am new to this forum.

Sungazing: This is my story

Before sungazing I was 50lbs overweight, I could not sleep, low energy levels I could not walk down my driveway with out breathing heavy, my blood work showed me with high levels in just about everything, especially sugar and cholesterol. I was negative about my work, my husband and his family, and life in general. Never said nice things about anyone or anything.

Sungazing changed that. I was up to 14 minutes, my energy levels went sky high I could work all day, come home at night and work in the evening in my garden, still cook a good meal, and was staying up to midnight. I was sleeping through the night and waking up at 5 or 6 and feeling refreshed. It was amazing. I was eating only fruits, veggies, chicken and fish, and that is all I wanted. Cravings for sugar, red meat and bread had left me.....I did not want them anymore, I felt inside, that I did not need them. During this time I had gone for blood work and a phyiscal......my cholesterol was done to 197 from 256 and my sugar levels were down also. This was only at 14 minutes (3 months of sungazing) I was truely amazed at what sungazing had done for me. As far as my attitude it went from bad to good. The world and the people in it were rose colored. Everyone was nice (including my in-laws) I wanted to help my fellow co-workers and especially my family. There is only one questions I have with my attitude change?
Only my husband and my parents noticed no one else. WHY? Is it because they (the people in my life) don't want to see the change or are they unwilling to change themselves when presented with acts of kindness?

However.....I fell under the pressure of family and friends that this was not healthy for me and I quit. Since then I am back to eating Crap, my craving have returned and I have gained 35 ilbs back. My blood work shows my cholesterol at 300 now and my sugar is borderline diabetic. I am not sleeping again, up and down all night long and that negative attitude is back in full bloom.

It took me months to realize what was happening to me after I stopped sungazing but now that it is in front of my face, I am going to back to sungazing....I will be starting up again this week on Monday morning.

I will keep you informed of my progress and experiences.

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An amazing thing just happened. I was feeling hungry, so I made some food and ate it. Then my energy level raised and I no longer felt hungry for like 3 hours. Then I made some more food and ate it. Then I got enlightened.
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Maybe it *is* possible to harness the energy of the sun and live on it. And then, you 'll be pretty much like a plant (although plants do actually get nutrients from the soil but never mind that). You 'll be very happy and at peace, all right.
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You can get vitamin D from the sun. Lack of sunlight can lead to vitamin D deficiency.

But replacing actual, solid food with sunlight is just downright rediculous.

Where will you get carbohydrates, protein, calcium, fibre, fats and other nutrients from?
If you try to replace food with sunlight, you'll end up:
Anorexic
Mal-nourished
Destroyed eyes from "gazing" at excessively bright light for extended periods of time
Mentally ill?

"Hey look, theres that crazy person who eats the sun!", they'll say.

This isn't a healthy lifestyle at all, its silly.
Plants need sunlight to survive.
We are not plants.
We are animals
We eat plants and other animals.
We do not eat sunlight.
Sunlight does not eat animals and plants.

This morning for breakfast, i had a banana, a bowl of cereal with whole cows milk, and i just finishised a cup of coffee a little while ago.
I feel energized, wide awake and ready to work.
Whats so wrong about that?
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Sungazing seems like a really risky behavior. If you don't do it exactly at the right time, you could go blind. I would only recommend this to people who know exactly what it is they're doing. Someone with amazing self-discipline and knowhow.
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Agreed!

I guess this trend will be short-lived though. Either the sungazers will die-off through starvation or get bored and hit subway.
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Either the sungazers will die-off through starvation or get bored and hit subway.
Actually, the point is not to force yourself to stop eating. You only eat what your body needs, and if it doesn't need anything, well... then you don't need to eat anything.

By the way, I'd think the sea would be the ideal place for sungazing. Then you know exactly how long it's been up and such.
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Tropicality I have been researching into solar gazing and noticed that Steve started it around the same time I did. I feel pretty good, but it is early days. Hindu scriptures describe people doing yoga for a long time in the forest and eating very little or nothing at all. I think solar gazing may have been part of the yogic process but it was kept secret as it is probably dangerous in the wrong hands.

To the cynics, go to Hiran Ratan Manek and tell him what you think. he man went for over a year without food, so please share your thoughts with him as he actually has some experience in the field.

I am keeping my mind open, I will go as far as I feel comfortable. Right now I am within the first 7 days of gazing so I report no obvious benefits. My stress levels are pretty non existent which is nice

Good luck to anyone who tries solar gazing, and please make sure you read HRM's process first. You must not look at the sun outside of the 'safe period'.

Be happy!
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I think a lot of people seem to be a bit confused here. Let's ignore the main argument and just assume that it is possible to absorb energy from sunlight and that we can exsist just like plants can. Let's even ignore the fact that plants rely on absorbing nutrients and minerals through the soil and that, as previously stated on this thread, we don't possess chlorophyll. What would you say is one of the biggest attributes of a plant?

They don't really move around much. Sitting around all day, growing at an amazingly slow rate tends to allow for a rather small intake of energy. In fact, if you look at plants that do move more than others, such as the venus fly trap, you'll find that they need to find additional sources of energy, (In this case, flies). Even if it was safe to sun gaze outside of the safe times with no ill effects, we couldn't possibly take in enough energy to sustain ourselves even if we were just so sit down all day. Let alone if we were to wander the earth as we are accustomed. The simple act of breathing and keeping our hearts beating requires much more energy than any plant uses and, personally, I've become rather attached to the use of my energy-guzzling muscles.

I can almost see the attraction of not having to work to pay for food, but even if this were possible, you couldn't make me want to give up eating if your life depended on it. I rather like sleeping with a roof over my head as well, so I'd still have to work. I'm not debating the usefulness of sun gazing. I don't know enough about it to argue and sunlight is good for you (in moderation, mind. There's still the added risk of cancer). But I think it's safe to say that attempting to replace food with sunlight would be suicide. Just ask any famine stricken African country. They get loads of sunlight.
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Those of you who are too close minded to accept new ideas. Open your minds. The sun provides energy for ALL life on mother earth and you say it can't energize you?! I just feel bad for all those who arent comfortable with ideas that arnt taught in school
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Those of you who are too close minded to accept new ideas. Open your minds. The sun provides energy for ALL life on mother earth and you say it can't energize you?! I just feel bad for all those who arent comfortable with ideas that arnt taught in school
One Heart is spot on.

Whether or not it works doesn't matter as much as your own reaction to new ideas that could potentially improve your life. Oh wait, I can hear you shouting and hollering that Sungazing is dangerous or that there's a billion biological reasons why it doesn't work. Great, you just proved my point:

Do you approach new things by being close minded and missing what could potentially be a new way of life that improves how you live? Or do have an open mind taht could listen to a full idea without having a need to cynically trash it because of little more than your own personal reasons. Protecting others is not a good enough reason.

This isn't just about sungazing, but about everything in your life. How do you approach your life?

Ps. I tried sungazing, it gave me a source of vitality that I hadn't experienced before. I just wish there was somewhere nearby that wasn't clouded by trees, houses or hills.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:02 PM   #30 (permalink)
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If I started a website "humans-can-really-fly.com" I would dread to see how many people take me seriously.

Nice idea it may be, but reality is reality, regardless of how much mother-earth loves us.
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