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Old 11-15-2011, 08:08 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Awesome! I would love to join, but I think I'll do the 7 day!

I've had some really good habits for about a year now. I'm very particular about what I eat, making sure to balance most of everything. The only thing I should probably cut down on is meat simply because I want to. SO HOPEFULLY!!! I won't have trouble not gaining more weight back. I have no problems with gaining the weight BACK, I just don't want to put on extra.

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Awesome!!! you sound committed to your health so you should be fine as far as weight is concerned. =)
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Truthfully today sucks! This is the most naseous I have felt and can't even drink much water because of it. I am hoping this is just a hurdle and not a steady pace of what's ahead
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Truthfully today sucks! This is the most naseous I have felt and can't even drink much water because of it. I am hoping this is just a hurdle and not a steady pace of what's ahead

not looking forward to those days, i hope you are able to rest from here on.. put on some movies to take ur mind off of it.
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Awesome!!! you sound committed to your health so you should be fine as far as weight is concerned. =)
That's good! Yay! I can't wait. Of course, I won't be unhappy if the weight does stay off.

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Truthfully today sucks! This is the most naseous I have felt and can't even drink much water because of it. I am hoping this is just a hurdle and not a steady pace of what's ahead
Oh wow. I'm so sorry. You're a tough cookie!
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Thank you both. I am not in the slightest bit tempted for food so that is a lifesaver considering I am at a low point. It actually is making me depressed because all I can think about is how crappy I feel. I will post again tomorrow I am taking the advice and am going to watch a much needed movie.
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Fasting can be difficult because of the removal of stimulation. Take away the stimulation of food and exercise and the mind can crave it.

I actually broke my latest waterfast on the evening of Day 2 just because I was looking for entertainment in the form of eating and lifting weights.

Fasters out there...lets keep fasting

Day 1 again for me today.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:24 AM   #97 (permalink)
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i'm easily bored. Im currently stocking up on differn't shows im going to watch while fasting.. lets see so far i have king of queens,frasier,big bang theory,everybody loves raymond,leverage, & bones.

as far as being "active" i have two dogs and will be going on walks, i will also be cleaning, doing laundry etc. other than that not a damn thing. it will be one long month.
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Oh, wow! LoL i hope to reach true hunger by 30 if not sooner.. i don't think ill want to go any longer than 35 days.
I hope the same for you and this is always what i had hoped for myself as well. It is certainly possible, just not very common. More than likely it would arise in the form of running low on some nutrient as it did for me in my first long fast of 30 days and largely because in that fast i was brisk walking 2 hours per day, depleting my nutritional reserves at an accelerated pace.

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I think we both like it when you comment, considering the experience you have with fasting. When i start my fast I will be reading through your beautiful water fast daily.
Awesome to here, thank you Ivy. I really enjoyed sharing my experience and i'm happy that you feel you can benefit from it.

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This is the most naseous I have felt and can't even drink much water because of it.

I am hoping this is just a hurdle and not a steady pace of what's ahead
Most commonly any nausea that might arise in a fast if at all should only last a (relatively) short time. It is possible but very unlikely to have to endure nausea in long stretches. In the few times i experienced it (3 times total over 3 long fasts, zero, once and twice respectively), the duration was 2-4 days.

Also, if you are not thirsty i strongly recommend not drinking. It's all in the realm of listening to your body. If your body needs water it will signal you with thirst. If you feel repulsed by water, your body has what it needs within its ample reserves and would welcome a break from processing more.

Contrary to wildly popular belief, there is no benefit whatsoever in forcing water upon ourselves when our body is not asking for it in the form of thirst and as an extension of this axiom, we definitely don't want to be drinking when our body is repulsed by it... in the same way we don't want to be eating when we are repulsed by food (as for example during nausea).

As an interesting side note, our body actually produces water when we fast, about a liter per day, so even if it seems we are at risk of dehydrating ourselves by not drinking for a day or two, the likelihood of this happening is not nearly what we might have thought. When we burn fat a hydrogen by-product is released and when we breath we introduce oxygen. These two elements combine within our body and form h2o, commonly known as water and specifically metabolic water.

For anybody interested in the perhaps surprising therapeutic benefits of actual dry fasting, (surprising because the idea goes against everything we have been conditioned to believe in regards to the essential nature of drinking 8 cups of water each day) this is a post i made a few months back linking several sources:

3.5 days into a Dry/Water-only Cascade Fast
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Old 11-16-2011, 04:58 AM   #99 (permalink)
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Is there any legit proof about it actually improving/curing the disease glomerulonephritis? I would really try anything at this point since all doctors have said I'll have kidney failure eventually and need dialysis/transplant one day. My nephrologist said a water fast for me would be too straining on my kidneys and do further damage but I question him saying this as he can't just give me the okay to do something like that without a lawsuit if I wasn't monitored.
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There is plenty of testimonials of people that had a variety of kidney diseases and are now either completely fine or almost there. I think that the important factor is how.long you fast and what you so after. In my case for instance, I need a longer fast (30 days) because of my asthma and food allergies. If you have read this thread you will see the highs and lows of this fast but most importantly is how drastically my asthma is improving. Obviously I can't test my FOOD allergies! My asthma was my main concern anyways. I would say to do a 3 day fast so you can see what to expect at the beginning and whatever you do don't quit during those.3 days. You will be fine and yes.it will suck. Then plan some time where you can.set aside for a longer fast. For me its an easy decision...30 days.for my body to reset to an almost birth-like state and live free of these toxins causing my issues. After the fast you need to remember that your body.needs.clean food in order to stay clean so while you're fasting and read up.
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I hope your feeling a little better today.
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You have been so amazing through this for me. Today is such a better day. I will say that I went off on the cashier at walmart today cause she was rude...normally I wouldn't give it a second thought or waste my time....well while fasting I will warn that your tolerance and patience is minimal. So after that episode, I immediately got really sick to my stomach from my heart rate being too high. I sat down (felt stupid) of course no where in sight for her to see....let my heart rate regulate and then I felt back to the norm again. So stupid!

Other than that episode I felt pretty typically weak nothing new. Oh by the way, i have had the worst upper back pain for the last week and I think I figures it out today. When I would get an asthma attack the only relief my husband could offer me was rubbing my back cause it was so painful. So I think that my lungs are.releases all the toxins in there and the back pain is a clear result of that process and finally makes so much sense. Besides the fact that I.rarely use my breathing machine anymore it is another great sign that my body is doing its job. I could be wrong but I never have chronic back pain and this is all as a result of fasting cause I'm doing nothing different physically.

Are you water fasting yet? I think you are soooo ready...lol. I am excited to do this together....I can help you through the rough patches as you can help me. You know what I am looking forward to more than juice which is what I initially thought I would want....I can't wait for vegetable broth homemade of course.
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You have been so amazing through this for me. Today is such a better day. I will say that I went off on the cashier at walmart today cause she was rude...normally I wouldn't give it a second thought or waste my time....well while fasting I will warn that your tolerance and patience is minimal. So after that episode, I immediately got really sick to my stomach from my heart rate being too high. I sat down (felt stupid) of course no where in sight for her to see....let my heart rate regulate and then I felt back to the norm again. So stupid!

Other than that episode I felt pretty typically weak nothing new. Oh by the way, i have had the worst upper back pain for the last week and I think I figures it out today. When I would get an asthma attack the only relief my husband could offer me was rubbing my back cause it was so painful. So I think that my lungs are.releases all the toxins in there and the back pain is a clear result of that process and finally makes so much sense. Besides the fact that I.rarely use my breathing machine anymore it is another great sign that my body is doing its job. I could be wrong but I never have chronic back pain and this is all as a result of fasting cause I'm doing nothing different physically.

Are you water fasting yet? I think you are soooo ready...lol. I am excited to do this together....I can help you through the rough patches as you can help me. You know what I am looking forward to more than juice which is what I initially thought I would want....I can't wait for vegetable broth homemade of course.
I am still juicing.. i feel ready for the water fast. Im going to finish this week with juicing & start the water fast on sunday! december is too far away & im feeling anxious lol. Im definitely going to succeed this time.

LoL i plan to avoid most of the outside world during this fast, just to prevent myself from ruining someone else's day, haha. I know during the last short fast i was actually friendlier than i usually am.. im sure that will change with this longer one.

ugh, chronic back pain is awful, but im glad your body is taking care of itself.

I love vegetable broth. yum!
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I'm excited for you to start Sunday. Today seems.to have started off pretty good so cross my fingers it stays this way. What have you been drinking all this time on the juice fast Ivyw? Do you enjoy those green drinks? I can't even think about those without my stomach turning....lol. I would be stuck with vegetable broth....fruit juice and smoothies. I actually plan on doing that to maintain my health when im done every other day. Crap after this water fast juicing every other day seems like a royal treat! I really hope your body heals itself on the water fast like mine is. I can't imagine why it wouldn't. If anything you have a healthier advantage from juicing this long. My body probably struggled from going from my normal eating and straight in to fasting....probably not advised
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this morning i had an apple-carrot juice. its was "blah" ive just been looking online at different recipes. Im actually tired of juicing lol. last night i juiced kale, spinach, romaine, & blue berries which was actually kinda good.
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Are you vegan primarily? I couldn't juice like that.....I love veggies but not a liquid mixture of a combination. I will be sipping homemade vegetable broth and fresh orange juice on those days. You sound more daring than I am...lol
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no lol i love meat. however i did cut back quite a bit. When I was put on dexpak a few months ago it caused problems with my pancreas. now, for some reason, steak causes it to swell some. I can handle it if its like a very small piece but a typical regular 3-4oz portion is too much. I think the water fast will help with that too. Chicken was irritating it for awhile but now no longer does. Before I started juicing though i was only eating seafood & eggs outside of my fruits & veges.

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Ya u think I'm going to start eating seared ahi tuna again. That's the only fish i like but i haven't had it in a few years and miss it. No other meat appeals to me anymore...or eggs...or cows milk. I can't stop thinking about how excited I am to finish this fast and eat some asparagus....i know its weird but I love those things.

So what did you juice today? Have you at least lost weight with all this juicing?
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cows milk...*barf* i stopped drinking milk 6 years ago. I love ahi tuna! this evening I did the same as last night, i didnt feel like shopping today. I have lost 3pounds.

how much have you lost while water fasting? i was losing 1pound a day on that short one i did.
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Well I can't wait for seared ahi tuna and some edamame! I havent even eaten cheese since I gave up milk and I used to absolutely love cheese. Now it grosses me out. I use some good cream cheese substitutes on my toast and shredded vegan cheese that melts just the same and tastes so good to me. Even my husband will eat it when I can't finish my dinners or if he tries a bite of mine and he doesn't think it tastes even slightly bad and he is the furthest from a vegan.

Well I lost 2 pounds the first 2 days and then 1 pound or close enough to 1 pound a day since. I can't believe with all that juicing you only lost 3 pounds. I wouldn't have had the motivation to keep that up. I have 2 motivating factors that keep me going through this....my asthma is improving significantly and am losing weight along the way
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whats keeping me motivated is the upcoming water fast. im actually tired of juicing. looking forward to water fasting & looking forward to the end of water fasting!
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Do your days feel as long as mine do? These have been the longest days ever. Yesterday I felt fine but could barely move most of the day. I noticed that every time I moved my heart rate would spike and I would have to sit back down. Does your breathe kick butt yet? This is crazy that my breathe has been so disgusting this whole time its embarassing so thankfully I'm not feeling social. Today I am going to do all of my thanksgiving food shopping and it doesn't even remotely bother me to think I am missing out this year. I have mentally prepared myself this whole time that on Christmas I can enjoy some dishes with my family. Luckily I don't speak to anyone in my family except my brother and he lives out of state. So my holidays are gladly spent with my husband and kids who all know what I'm doing and understand and support me. if you are not married this will be so much easier for you mentally hopefully cause you will be slightly short fused at times and have to watch everyone else eat. Only in the beginning did that bother me....now food is irrelevant. I am so excited you are starting Sunday! The sooner you start the faster it will be over. I will still be blogging with you while you finish your fast. The most disappointing thing for me will be if my asthma comes back a couple months after I'm done. The weight I'm not worried about cause I eat healthy so it shouldn't come back...of course a couple pounds will but it better not be more than 3 or 4.... Lol
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I am married
he doesnt support water fasting at all but he did agree to leave me alone about it lol. our families are in a different state as well so its just him, me, my 2dogs, & cat.

nope, not kicking butt yet! im sure it will during the water fast.
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Well at least he will leave you alone about it. Is he concerned about it leading to anorexia? My husband was but then I just filled him up with all the benefits of my asthma. I personally dont think my husband thought I would have made it this far. He knows I'm strong willed but this is the toughest one with food. I have given up many foods and never thought twice but giving up all food and beverages except water....pretty proud of myself. I am glad that it didn't take forever for my body to start healing my lungs cause now he totally believes in this fasting. The breathe is killing him and my lack of energy cause of my sex drive. Plus we are forced to lay around a lot. He never bothers me about any of it though.

I replied to your friend request but don't know if it went through. Did you get it? I saw your other posting where you made that person mad for calling cows milk puss....I was laughing. Pretty sensitive folks. At least they will have heard the truth one time about milk....lol
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yes, he is concerned with it leading to anorexia. He also doesn't believe it will heal anything, and keeps telling just to go back to the doctor.. i hope to prove him wrong I refuse to go back to the docs!

I might make a trip to the store & buy him porn. I don't think after the second week ill be in the mood again until the fast is over. I haven't decided if i wanted to spend money on that though especially when you can get it free from this wonderful thing called the internet lol

the friend request did go through Yeah, i honestly didn't think that comment would really get to anyone! I never meant to sound rude.. oh, well!
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Im sure he knows all the right sites to look at....no need to purchase those anymore. Just make him promise not to get mad and to just understand that it will be over soon and you can get back to normal. If he sees any medical benefit then hopefully that will help. Otherwise you make have to fake it that you are in the mood....not an easy task during this. How tall are you now and how much do you weigh? Will he notice every pound or can you just say you only lost a few ounces?
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5'8, 144lbs, lol just checked
I doubt he will notice, unless i take pics and compare it. i dont plan on doing that though. After the water fast i plan to bring my weight up to 150, with low body fat.
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Why are you wanting to bring your weight up to 150? Are you a bodybuilder? I'm 5'9 and at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if I dropped below 120 on this fast....I won't let my body gain back more than 5 pounds without taking it off immediately. I think that if I didn't have a level head a broad knowledge of nutrition I would probably be a good candidate for an eating disorder. I have weird thoughts about food. For instance I can't look at someone eating....even on tv..I cannot hear someone eat or drink anything...I actually get tense. The lunch table in grade school was torture for me. If I see overweight people eating I actually get full if I'm eating. If I learn about a food that I didn't know was bad for you and believe it I will get completely repulsed by that item.....the list goes on trust me!

So do you eat cheese or as far as dairy goes you just avoid the actual milk drink?
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well for one i don't look good super skinny, some people do im just not one of them. I would like to compete in a figure competition by the end of 2012. Im also looking into the women's physique division. I love muscle=)

I do not eat cheese.

i would have a reeses cup once in a great while but my stomach has always been sensitive & i would get sick. If i want to feel good at all lol my diet has to be strict.
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That's so awesome my girlfriend has competed for the last 5 years....tell your husband to be aware.when you are in season cause she gets soooooo Moody! She looks her beat though when she's on her quick breaks. She has to work out for about 4 hours 2 times a day when she is in season and it is really hard on her body. There is no money in it even though she takes first place and has her pro card. The only money is from print work doing photos. But....she's addicted and loves it to death!

I am so rooting for you to follow that dream if its something you want to do....its competitve as hell and pushes you to the limit which is why I thought I would love it but I couldn't dedicate that much time for workouts.
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