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Hi, I've just been wondering what has been wrong with me. I'm 20 years old. The past 2-3 years now I'd sleep anywhere from 15-48 hours. it is almost always hard for me to get up, and if i'm lucky to feel refreshed, then a few hours later I'm overly drowsy. I've slept in and even slept way past my scheduled time for work on many occassions. They'd even come to my house to see if I'm ok because I've had many incidenses at work where I'd pass out. I'd get real hot, ears ring, narrow view, numbness in hands and feet til they feel crampy, and everything goes pitch black sometimes my stomache aches really bad like a cramp and I've thrown up. I woke up either in a stretcher or on my work floor.That has happened approx. 8-10 times now and went to the emergency room by ambulance from work. all the tests each time came out perfect my vitamins minerals etc where in the normal ranges. They couldn't find nothing wrong. I've been diagnosed with brady-cardia, tachy-cardia, apro?-depressor syncope, sinus arrhythmia, and some kind of flutter. I was diagnosed these not all at once, but from each visit. I was the only 19-20 yr old in the cardiac unit and now I see a cardiologogist, and was given medication to try to regulate my heart rate which that hadn't helped at all and I stopped taking it after 3-4 months because all it did was give me really bas stomache pains, nauseasness, constipation, headaches, etc . There Ive had ekg's that came back normal etc. but one test I had was slightly off. I was told hypothyroidism because my t3 and t4 were a little higher than normal. but 3 days later I passed out again at work and got retested for everything, everything again was normal including my thyroid. Well for a month and a half now I hadn't had my passing out spells. I recently got on birth control to control my menstruation since I have it 8-9 days long, and I was also thinking maybe that its helping hormone wise, if it was my thyroid, since I hadn't been passing out. Well I also went to my obgyn yesterday and was told i have a bicornuate uterus (heart shaped) and today I had my kidneys looked at with a renal ultrasound. I heard the lady say something like horseshoe kidney because she had problems seeing it on the screen and I asked about it afterwards and she said shes sworn to secrecy and can't tell me. I don't know if all this is connected somehow. and i can't say much now about my tests that were done today with my kidney's but I was told the kidneys control blood pressure etc that they control alot. I'm still trying to figure out why I'm constantly tired 24/7, why i sleep so much etc. My job is in jeopardy over this tho they have been very leniant because of my conditions, my job has no set hours. I could work 3pm-11pm on day 7am-3pm the next, any hours between 7am-11pm any day of the week including weekends. I work in customer service and been there 2 years now. I really don't think that information really has no correlation with my problem because my heart and this tiredness has been around about a year. and only once back in my senior year gym glass I passed out playing ultimate frisby, and that was 3 years ago tho I wasn't the least bit as tired then as I am now. I guess what I'm asking for is advice on my constant tiredness and what my passing out is from. Could they be linked with all this?
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Did they test for anemia since your period is so long? Since they can't seem to find what the problem is - here are a few suggestions. I've had experience being extremely tired all the time due to adrenal fatigue. Your adrenal glands start shutting down because of constant stress. Dietary changes can help with that. I wouldn't place too much faith in the medical community ( and I'm a nurse) Try anything alternative to try to resolve your condition on your own. You have to take your health into your own hands. Try this book Amazon.com: Recovery of Your Inner Child: The Highly Acclaimed Method for Liberating Your Inner Self (9780671701352): Lucia Capacchione: Books Sometimes a part of your inner self is trying to get your attention and the only way to get your attention is by making you sick. I was in the hospital three times last year for various illnesses. Since reading this book and doing the exercises I haven't had any serious illnesses. |
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Thank you Rawxtasy, Yes they have checked me for anemia each time I was sent to hospital. They basically ran almost every test possible with my blood samples. The anemia testing came back negative. Even when I was seen during my period. It is possible I've been highly stressed lately, I had moved out from my parents and lived on my own for 2 years now and just have a lot of pressure on me living alone. So basically yes, I had to grow up fast and sacrificed alot but I was always told thats just life. Diet wise I have a balanced diet and also taking a daily vitamin. Tho my height weight and age people whouldn't think I do. I'm 5'7" weighing at 106 lbs being at 20 years old (21 this nov). But thats just hereditary from my dad. Thank you, I will try that book. I did give up all my interests and I have lost alot of time for myself from working and of course sleeping alot. I read thru the first page as the summary and I already fine it suprisingly tear-jerking because it sounds like where I'm placed, forcing my urges my once enjoyed hobbies basically all the fun out of my life and just been focusing on work and taking care of my home etc. I acknowledge my urges but I constantly shove them away. I will read that book, anything to help me feel and be normal again. Thank you so much for recommending it to me! |
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I perhaps don't have very good advice to give, I also have no clue about the condition you mentioned. But I've been having a similar problem, for the past 2-3 years I've experienced such debilitating exhaustion on top of other health problems. It's hard when your young and you experience this, It came as a shock to me anyway how much my life broke down. I opted to rest for a while, and I think its both helped as in this was what my body was asking for , its slowed me down practically though I do feel much better and have so much more energy these days. I might give that book a go! sounds interesting, I wouldn't rule out that this may be an emotional thing for both of us. Sometimes I feel a really big storage of emotion in my body |
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Here's something you can try that requires no effort and minimal cost — you can do it while you sleep. It's called Earthing: The Most Important Health Discovery Ever? |
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You mentioned thyroid issues that you had been tested for a couple times. Someone on these forums recommends a book about thyroid testing and why the results may be hard to interpret. Because of the issues surrounding testing, you may actually have a thyroid problem and not be able to tell from the tests. I would recommend the book, but I don't know what it's called. Perhaps the person who recommends it often (I don't remember who) will come along and recommend it for you. Until that happens, my advice (only one piece of the puzzle) would be to increase the amount of raw fruits and veggies in your diet. The body can heal or at least improve most problems given the proper fuel. On top of that, try meditating, yoga, regular exercise (even running for 10 minutes every other day will help you.) I know that this is very general advice, but it works for nearly everything. |
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Usually being really tired has to do with stress, poor diet, and no exercise. However, it seems like your condition is different. I don't have much good advice to give, to make sure that you take care of the three things I mentioned. You don't want to make it any worse |
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Without wanting to sound like an armchair doctor, it really does sound like you have some type of sleep disorder. Most people need around 6 - 8 hours worth of sleep per night. Needing over 9 hours of sleep indicates a problem. Do you suffer from sleep paralysis, vivid dreams or hallucinations? |
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Thank you Stanmrak, so it's like meditating outside or like sun-bathing etc? I have never heard of "earthing" before. I will give that a try. Maybe sit out and read the book Rawxstasy recommended. Firenexx, hhm I could try to see if I could find what book you are talking about. As for raw veggies and fruits, I have a well balanced diet and have a salad everyday with each meal, though I only eat twice a day, with clementines and the such. I take a "one a day" multivitamin also everyday when I wake up. I also was to see a thyroid specialist reffered by my pcp, but I couldn't afford to take the day off from work the day I was scheduled. So I've been needing to schedule again but since my passing out subsided for a month or so now I hadn't found it that troublesome. but if it whats causing my excessive sleep I won't hesitate to fix the problem. Fred Tracy, I have many stresssors yes. But the main one I find is the pressure of living on my own being at 20 years old with a medium wage job. Most other stressors I try to avoid or work through. Exercise wise- honestly I'm less active than I was in high school etc. The only exercise I get is walking to and from work and that's just 10mins away plus running around at work from the office to assist customers and cashiers. Though my diet is almost fool proof besides only eatting twice a day. |
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PaulDJ, I have had an instance of sleep paralysis when I was younger but only experienced that once. Vivid dreaming- yes, I experience them alot especially when I am sleeping as much as I do. Everything feels and seems real though I no I'm sleeping, but when I think I'm awake though I'm still dreaming, everything feels real etc, and it turns out like that I could swear I got dressed or clean around the house etc even though I really hadn't, so i wind up mixing reality with my dreams at times. But I didn't know that lucid dreaming would make you that tired.
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I can't comment on your individual case, but I know of changes that have positive health effects for pretty much everyone. 1. Fasting (find some online resources or an expert to help you out) 2. Going vegan Possibly 2a. giving up gluten 3. Going raw vegan For some people being vegan is radical but I find it easy. For me being raw vegan is more hard to keep up. But I know that if it cured such a serious illness I'd find a way of making it work. In my case I only needed to go gluten-free vegan for my long term illness to clear up so this is my point of equilibrium. (I also made a couple other changes, like giving up coffee, eating much less of certain foods like onions, garlic, sugar, oil, etc, and eating more fruit and vegetables, particularly raw ones). In your situation, if I didn't have any other option to try, I'd do raw just to see what the result was. I recommend "12 steps to raw" (something like that) by Boutenko. You can find it on Amazon. Tell me if I've got the title wrong and you need more help. It tells the story of how a family of four, who were each seriously, even mortally sick with different things, turned their fortunes around by going raw. It's very inspiring and isn't a moralistic or theoretical book - it just tells you the experience of four people, what worked for them. |
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You should add some spirulina to your diet, it's done wonders for some people with CFS, and even if it doesn't help you much, it's a wonderful addition to a more heathly diet since it's considered a super food. You can read about the benefits here: Spirulina - Spirulina Health Benefits and Nutrition Facts |
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Narcolepsy Symptoms, Causes and Treatment - An article from my own website providing a quick overview of narcolepsy What is narcolepsy? - A whole website dedicated to narcolepsy for a more in depth view. I'm not a doctor or anything so I could be completely wrong. | |
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PaulDJ: This was in that article u sent: "It’s important to note that while all of these are linked to narcolepsy, it’s perfectly normal for them to occur completely naturally on their own. It only becomes a sign of narcolepsy if the symptom is combined with one of the others." I've only had the vivid dreams but they are more frequent probably because I sleep so much. and I've only experienced the sleep paralysis once when I was little, but never had it since. I have never had sleeping spells standing up etc though I am really tired throughout the day, and staring at the computer screen at work, dependant on how tired I am the screen gets blurry. I have 20/20 vision. But its only if I'm really that tired, that happened when I'm scheduled real early in the morning. AngelPsychic: hmm, that does sound interesting enough to try. I've never heard of spirulina and it does have alot of benefits. I'll give that a try with my regular diet and you stated it has helped with alot of people with CFS. I could probably get that at walmart next time I go, we may even carry the tablets too where I work. Andrew Gubb: I appreciate your advice. Yes, that is the title of the book "12 steps to raw foods." Yes, I had heard gluten free does help alot too. My grandmother from her diabetes, and something else, was told by her doctor to not eat anything gluten. Which eliminated alot of her diet and she has lost alot of weight from avoiding those foods, along with other health benefitting effects. But I'm trying not to lose any weight, trying to gain a little more. I'm at 106 lbs. (I never go below 105 or above 110.) But that's hereditary from my dad. So I am way under weight for my age and height on the BMI scale. I'd need to be at 120. I know with most meat, poutry, and dairy they add alot of things that are not needed etc, like steroids or antibiotics in milk and the such, which when we do need antibiotics they won't work because our body is accustomed/immune to the certain kind. I would try that too for a while if I could approach that without losing any weight. i have friends that are vegans and they have no health problems or the such that I know of so I know it must have beneficial properties too. |
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How is your weight? I see that you gave a weight but you didn't give a height. Will 120 put you at a BMI of 18.5? I have vasovagal episodes, complete with fainting (syncope), when I'm underweight. They sound exactly like what you've described. They can be triggered by wounds, especially puncture wounds, and abdominal bloating/cramping (pressure on the vagus nerve). |
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Thank you Criseyde. Oh yes, my cardiologist did mention something with a vagus nerve. That was when I first seen him in the cardiac unit about 7 months ago.My height is 5'7". Yes, a weight of 120 would put me at 18.6 on the BMI scale. But no matter what I do I can't gain weight. I have a balanced diet and all (which also includes junk food every now and then) I have been taken to the hospital during my menstrual cycle which does make sense with the cramping etc. But the majority of the time i was seen I had nothing of the sort hapen (ie, cramping, injury, wounds) I also forgot to mention that when I was in school in gym class, we had to wear a heart monitor on the exercise machines. It was for a log for the fat burning stage the toning stage etc. Well, during the fat burning section we had to get our heart rate to 100-130 or something like that, well I was walking on the treadmill and it was already over 100. Meanwhile everyone else was running. I brought that up to my cardiologist and he has me scheduled this November 3rd for a monitor test on the treadmill. I have also worn a 48 hour holter monitor for the hospital and had to log what I was doing. ( I was off work those 2 days and didnt do anything stressful) my report back was that I had many occasions of a high heart rates above 110. and many occasions that I had really low heart rates below 50. Does the vagus nerve mess with your heart rates? and what did they do to help you? My cardiologist put me on Hyomax, its not for the heart at all but he was hoping its side effects would raise my lower heart rate so I wouldn't pass out, but it didn't help me at all. I suffered from all its side effects plus me passing out so I stopped taking it. |
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Oops, sorry, you did give a height, I just didn't see it. Yes -- 106 at 5'7 is very low, BMI 16.6. I've been working on gaining weight recently and when I started I weighed 92 lbs at 5'2, which is a BMI of 16.8, so it seems like we started from similar places. I do not actually have the excessive tiredness, just all the fainting stuff ("just", ha). I think you probably have something going on besides just being underweight. However, I think that getting to a healthy weight would help you. How many calories do you take in per day? I have a friend who can't gain unless she's consuming 3000+. I've never been treated by a doctor for the vasovagal episodes. The first time I fainted from one, I was actually at a clinic, getting shots -- that's what triggered it -- and they gave me a juice box when I came around, which actually helped a LOT (like, I started drinking it and felt normal within about a minute). That makes me suspect that it's related to blood glucose somehow. Now, when I have one, I try to eat something right away. You would probably benefit from trying to maintain stable blood sugar levels, and of course increase your weight. My aforementioned friend was seriously underweight her whole life until she eliminated gluten grains from her diet -- she was gluten intolerant and the intolerance was causing her difficulty in absorbing nutrients from her food (as well as bloating etc which made it difficult to eat much), which led to being underweight. She now eats primally (kind of like paleo except less restrictive). What the vagus nerve actually does, when it triggers one of these episodes, is cause your heart rate to drop and/or your blood vessels to dilate, which lowers your blood pressure dramatically and causes the blood to basically drain out of your brain -- that's why you lose consciousness. Being seriously underweight can also cause heart problems. Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing whether your heart problems are a symptom of being underweight or whether you have an underlying medical issue that's causing the weight problems, the sleep problems, and the heart problems. I guess that's what your doctors are trying to figure out... sorry I couldn't be more helpful. |
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What you posted was very informative. I think I use to have vasovagal episodes when I was younger too, though I didn't know that that was what they were. It sounds very similar to what I experienced. All I knew was that it was linked to losing too much blood. Now that I think about it, I had problems with my blood pressure and heart rate as well at the time. Thank you! At least I have a name for it now. Quote:
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Thank you Criseyde, I honestly have no clue how many calories I consume a day, I've never kept track. I eat two big meals a day and alot of in-between meals/junk food. ha. But the majority of them are healthy. Oh I see. When I passed out, after the first time the ambulance told my boss not to give me anything to drink or eat. Probably because I couldn't talk or move etc my whole body was numb and paralyzed when I was able to keep concious. At the hospital they would give me an IV but my blood pressure and heart rate were still abnormal for about a half hour. I think a few times I felt better after a few minutes on IV. Usually I just fell asleep at the hospital after all that. They've checked my blood sugar etc everything was normal each time I was at hospital. That was one of the 1st things they checked since diabetes runs in my family on my moms side. I know nothing of my dads side. um, they did do a tilt-table test on me tho. I failed that with 8mins left out of 40mins. I forget what that meant but it made me re-experience passing out so they could look at my BP, heart rate, etc. Both dropped dramatically within seconds and the nurse put the table down almost right away. How does one know if they are gluten-intolerant? I'll see how that works with me going gluten free and start adding up my calorie intake per day. 3000 seems like alot tho but thats from me who's never added up my calories before :P No, I really appreciate you responding etc. You were helpful, because I never knew any of this stuff and you had the same experience. I'll try the gluten free, Andrew Gubb previously said the same. So if two people say it, it is also worth doing. Thank you! |
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RE: vasovagal episodes Its just another word for fainting! I never actually lost consciousness when I had these 'episodes' so I never really made the connection. I guess it is the same principle though. Zephy doesn't have any oxygen in her brain. |
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Too many big words. That makes more sense, but I'm no longer certain that this actually applies to me. I'll just revert to 'Zephy had no oxygen in her head'. So much simpler. Quote:
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Criseyde , One of my customers at work overheard me talking one day about my condition and said her father is in Presby hospital with the same thing. Coincidentally, she said she had a call that he passed out minutes prior to talking with me about it. She said that he passed out right b4 he was about to eat sitting in the hospital bed and that they caught the whole thing. I haven't seen that lady since, (about 4 months ago) to ask what they diagnosed him with to see if that would apply to me. I have another appointment coming up and I could ask to have the ELISA test done. That would spare me just going gluten free right away. Also, is a gluten intolerance hereditary? As I've stated before, my grandmother has to eliminate all gluten from her diet, but I'm not sure if that was linked to her being diabetic or something else. Actually, the doctor said when he tested me, my T3 & T4 were a bit low and I had a higher level of TSH. But 3 days later I went back and was tested again because I brought that up, everything was normal. But I later looked online and I actually have symptoms of both. I found that impossible and researched more and found hashimoto's thyroiditis and chrones disease at once or Dysautonomia or a Thyroiditis Flare. I found that info here. Can You Be Both Hypothyroid and Hyperthyroid? |
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Assuming no thyroid damage, Seem, like you suffering from over exhausting causing functional impairment of the renal which explain the cycle,, heart palpation, no energy , thyroid irregularity . Take cordycep -renal energy (daytime only) alot of energy -but expensive, -stop taking after ovulation until start of cycle. can use shorterm then use cheaper substitute. -cheaper substitute would be rhodiola, wild yam. -shisandra berry Take Reishi - (regulate heart rate, some energy, regulate lung to Oxygenate the blood) -more oxygen more energy. Take royal Jelly -walmart is the cheapest. This should take care nearly all your health complaint. Even if you have thyroid problem. Order from iherb.com goodluck |
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