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| Stop the Walgreens flu shot harassment! Employees rewarded with iPads for meeting vaccination recruitment goals? Being someone who works for a subcontractor maintenance company for Walgreens', I can attest first hand that the harassment at these stores is unbelievable. I'm sure many of you who have shopped there in the past months have noticed their brand new bright red and light blue shirts encouraging people to get vaccines. Employees don't wear Walgreens' shirts anymore!! They wear VACCINE shirts!! This is absolutely insane.. Anyways, read the article below from Mike Adams at NaturalNews.com Mod note: I have removed the text of this article due to copyright issues. -- Criseyde |
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I suspect the vaccines do work. I think what makes me wary is we don't really know the effects of getting a different flu vaccine (sometimes more than one) every single year on a long-term basis. | |
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The propaganda machines go crazy this time of year. Go read some of the articles on flu shots in the media. They practically insist that you get one. Fluoride in drinking water is another fraud. Of course they call you a crazy John Bircher if you're against it. There's honestly no scientific basis for it, and the evidence that it's harmful is significant. Besides, fluoride only works topically. Ingesting it does nothing to prevent cavities. That's why your dentist applies it to your teeth, and then you spit it out. |
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| Nobody should be rewarded with goodies for pushing pills. Flu shots are a medical treatment, and patients should consider whether it's right for them (probably not). They should not be treated like this week's special on Corn Flakes.
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The dangers of Vaccines out-weight the benefits. 70 percent of doctors and nurses, and 62 percent of other health care workers do NOT get the yearly flu shot... Can you guess why ? It starts with swine flu propaganda and then you can download pdf acrobat file where Doctors are warning not to vaccinate. Truth about flu shots. |
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Vaccination, on the whole, has saved many more lives than it has damaged, and has done immeasurable good for the human race. That doesn't mean one should go out and shoot up every vaccine produced, anymore than one should take 50 aspirin to get better results than taking 2. With any vaccine, a very small number of people will have a negative immune reaction, so weigh the benefits against the risks. Getting the flu sucks, but if you are young and healthy, why take the risk of a flu vaccine that has a good chance of not preventing the flu? (Flu vaccines are prepared in advance of flu season, so manufacturers bet that one particular strain will be dominant that season and prepare the vaccine to protect against that strain of flu; they don't always choose the right strain.) There is also the issue of thimerosal (mercury based preservative in vaccines); mercury ingestion is never safe, regardless of what the manufacturers may tell you. As for other vaccines (against childhood diseases), I think children should receive these, but not necessarily as infants, and not all at once -- the vaccines should be spaced out a bit rather than grouped together, in order to reduce the risk of overstimulating the immune system and causing an adverse reaction. Also, get that mercury out of the vaccines! |
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I've never understood the part about the mercury. Sure, it's cheaper to use mercury than a less harmful preservative. But if most of the fuss is about mercury, why haven't they changed it by now. Then again, dentists still swear by mercury amalgams. |
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Did you know that many of the diseases that vaccines are given total credit for 'eradicating' were almost completely gone before the vaccine came along — due to better hygiene and sanitation? In ways like this, the efficacy of vaccines may be way overstated. | |
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The worldwide benefits of the smallpox vaccine alone outweigh all of the negative side effects of vaccination. That being said, just because vaccination can be effective and beneficial doesn't mean an individual manufactured vaccine will be beneficial and harmless; don't go out and get the latest vaccine being pushed by whichever company is manufacturing it without doing some research first, and make sure you are aware of possible negative reactions. Quote:
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Stanmrak is touching on an important point. It would be unwise and naiive, rather than paranoid, to simply dismiss the uncertainty regarding compilations of vaccine safety data. One needs only delve into the controversies of safety testing, reporting and confirmation of alleged side effects, regulatory oversight, etc, to discover that this is not a cut-and-dry set of numbers. Of course if I look at WHO data I will see that the smallpox vaccine killed less people than would have died had it not been administered. Should I trust that data is a completely different issue. Look at how many agencies and NGOs have data that shows that sodium fluoride is safe and reduces cavities, yet that issue is almost a mainstream controversy at this point as more and more people are becoming aware. |
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I thought it was really interesting that the parents of Hannah Poling (the girl who got autism-"like" symptoms from vaccines) didn't know about the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System), and weren't told anything about it by their pediatrician. Dr. Jon Poling got his medical degree from Georgetown University and his wife Terry is a registered nurse with specialized training in critical care. This is what she said in a CNN press conference after they received a landmark settlement from the federal vaccine court for Hannah's injuries: "One other thing I just wanted to mention that I think is important is that more people need to be aware of VAERS, which is a reporting system. When you think your child has a vaccine injury, that you can communicate if your pediatrician does not communicate to the VAERS. This VAERS reporting system is not -- they don't do anything other than record incidences of autism. | |
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| As I said in the other post, I've got no problems with any of the vaccines I've ever taken -- and I'm not unhealthy. Having said that, yes my dogs have had a neg reaction to one of their vaccines which was for lyme disease. So my vet is evaluating and recommending only what should be bare minimum. But just because my beloved dogs both had a neg reaction from one type of vaccine, I'm certainly not about to stop them from ALL vaccinations for the rest of their lives. |
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1.) The negative effects of the vaccines that you've took haven't kicked in yet. or 2.) The vaccines you took in the past weren't as severe as the ones that have started to get massive advertising during these past 2-3 years. I believe, and hope, that it's the latter. I'm 19, and I'm sure I've been vaccinated when I was a child. Now, either there was mercury in the vaccine, and it has messed with my brain to the point that I don't even notice it has done so, or the effects of the vaccines back then weren't as threatening. | |
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Any folks up here in Canada worried about vaccine effects (short or long term) should be more concerned about breathing in all that Toronto smog and eating all that fast food crap instead! | |
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