Will You Be Getting A Flu Shot?

[Clint Cora]

I see the promotion campaigns for flu shots (which are free) around here in Ontario, Canada have started.

If you live in a flu region, will you be getting a flu shot this season?

[russianrocket]

Never gotten a flu shot, never gotten a flu, will never get a flu shot.

[momo3bur]

Until this year, I never got a flu shot, but I followed the advice of my doctor and went ahead with it.

I've never had the flu, but my husband seems to get it every year regardless of whether he has the flu shot or not. I also have three children who get a flu vaccine every year, so I thought I would get one to better protect my family. It sucks to try to take care of sick children while you are also sick.

Anyway, I got it, then for almost a week afterward I felt HORRIBLE. They assured me before the shot that there were no side effects; however, I woke the next morning with an incredibly stiff neck and aching joints. I couldn't even turn my head. I felt nauseous and off balance for about two days also.

So, although I got it this year, I don't plan on getting it next year. I suppose if I get the flu, I get the flu, and I'll just have to deal with it. My children don't seem to have any side effects from the vaccine, though, and since they are around other children so often, I will continue to get them vaccinated for their safety. They are always given the nasal vaccine, which is apparently more effective and much easier to take.

[stanmrak]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Flu shots are worse than worthless. Contrary to what they tell you, flu vaccines are not thoroughly tested for safety - or efficacy. The trials are not thorough, and are rigged to produce favorable results. The people who do the vaccine studies are paid by the people who sell the vaccines! Many of the people in the FDA who approve the vaccines are also paid by the pharmaceutical industry. These are the same people who promoted Vioxx. Remember Vioxx? FDA analysts estimated that Vioxx (a pain reliever) caused between 88,000 and 139,000 heart attacks, 30 to 40 percent of which were probably fatal, in the five years the drug was on the market. (Wikipedia) Court records showed that Merck knew that Vioxx was killing people, but Merck didn't care - it was their best-selling drug. The fines they ended up paying were chump change compared to the profits they raked in. These are the same people who are making the flu shots.

The flu shot is a scam promoted by the pharmaceutical industry. They love vaccines... they're a drug salesman's "Dream" product. They can be marketed to healthy people (which increases your customer base significantly), there's no long FDA approval process, they're protected from lawsuits, courtesy of Uncle Sam, who also acts as their sales rep/drug pusher. The woman who was the head of the CDC recently was given a cushy, multimillion dollar position at the Merck vaccine division - as a reward for her help in promoting flu vaccines, no doubt.

Does the Vaccine Matter? - Magazine - The Atlantic

Do Drug Companies Secretly Favor a World Flu Pandemic?

ALERT: Special Swine Flu Update

Gary Null Speaking Out at the NYS Assembly Hearing | 10-13-2009 | (part 1 of 3) - YouTube

If you're prone to getting the flu, take more vitamin D - at least 5,000IU a day during the winter. Get a blood test to see if you're deficient; the majority of people are. Vitamin D is far more effective at preventing colds than any vaccine, is cheap and completely safe. The reason why flu is more common in winter is that you aren't getting vitamin D from the sun for 6 months in most latitudes.

Did you know that megadoses of Vitamin D are also a great way to wipe out colds and flu? Health Benefits of Vitamin D

[stanmrak]

Originally Posted by momo3bur

Anyway, I got it, then for almost a week afterward I felt HORRIBLE. They assured me before the shot that there were no side effects; however, I woke the next morning with an incredibly stiff neck and aching joints. I couldn't even turn my head. I felt nauseous and off balance for about two days also.

I hope this was a revelation... "They" can't be trusted.

"Oh, it's just a coincidence. It's all in your head. These vaccines are thoroughly tested. It must have been from something else."

I'm NOT blaming your doctor for misleading you, but for being a pawn in the game being played by the drug companies. Doctors too often trust what they're told by the drug reps, but maybe they shouldn't.

[superfoodist]

ABSOLUTELY NOT!


Those vaccines contain toxic mercury, aluminum, and TONS of other things that DON'T belong in the human body, let alone near the human brain once circulated in the blood!!

These are NOT to be trusted. Don't get a flu shot. Don't get your children a flu shot.. Tell everyone you know NOT TO GET A FLU SHOT.

Don't you find it strange that they're pushing it down everyones throats SO hard? I mean, its simple really.. If YOU'RE vaccinated, and I'M NOT, what's the worse that can happen? In a worse case scenario, the person without the flu shot would get sick, and the people that are vaccinated wouldn't... SO WHY ARE PEOPLE PUSHING IT SO HARD and taking it out of the realms of free choice?

They even went so far a few days ago to let kids in California get a flu shot WITHOUT their parents consent.. Can you imagine? They're most likely fearmongering the kids to death (quite literally, if they get the flu shot) to accept the needle.


In short, DON'T BUY INTO THIS. The flu shot is bad news.

[firenexx]

I eat my veggies, I don't get the flu.

[scorpio1980]

I would never, ever, ever, ever get a flu shot. You have no idea how safe these are. Not to mention the mercury exposure.

[Chill of Eons]

This one should be seen by all, even those who would never consider getting a flu shot (and I'm rather amazed this was aired on mainstream media back in the day):

Dr. David Senser (sp?), head of the CDC's 1976 H1N1 vaccine campaign, when questioned by CBS, nervously plays dumb and claims that he doesn't even know whether 'X53A', the actual jab given to the public rather than the one that he advertised to the nation, was even safety tested! Even better, he claims that none of the CDC's scientists expressed concerns of possible neurological damage, then is proven wrong immediately after by one such scientist! But that's not all - he is proven by a celebrity to have falsely used her name on a list of 'famous people who took the shot (so you should trust us)'; she didn't take the shot.

Flu Vaccines Kill! Hundreds dead - H1N1 - YouTube

Needless to say, the situation is hardly any better today.

[garentee]

No.. I keep myself outside as much as possible in the winter and that keeps me healthy...

[maxinatlanta]

My friend doctor told me not to take flu shot since they are largely ineffective. he never takes them. He is one of a few honest doctors that does not scare his customers in taking flu shots. He explained to me that flu is virus and it mutates all the time. They can never predict teh virus 100 % so he explained to me it's not worth to do it, however, it is a major revenue for vaccine companies.

By the way the former head of the CDC (2002-2009), Julie Gerberding - who was also one of the top disease mongers pushing vaccines over the last few years - now works for Merck - the largest drug company in the world.

And what is her job? She is the president of the global vaccine division for Merck. $5 billion vaccine division sells cervical cancer vaccines, chickenpox and of course your favourite H1N1 swine flu vaccine.

Here they teach doctors on how to brainwash you into accepting vaccination. After all, it's business.

[Benton]

The simple fact is that the flu vaccine only covers a few versions of the flu, last I heard, at best, about 10% of the strains out there.

I haven't gotten the flu in 20+ years, so I don't worry much.

The whole "VACCINES R BAD" crew here should reevaluate how much vaccines have helped humanity in the past fifty years. And don't go into the flat-earth "ZOMG VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM" BS either, because that's just what it is.

Flu vaccine is a fine one to skip. Things like tetanus, MMR and chickenpox/shingles are well worth getting.

[maxinatlanta]

Benton, thanks for the comment.

I agree with you 100 %. Vaccines are poisonous. The connection between vaccines and autism spectrum disorders is clear. The figures of vaccinated children having 120% more asthma, 317% more ADHD, 185% more neurological disorders and 146% more autism than those not vaccinated really should grab your attention.

One of the strange pages on CDC's website is "Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) and Vaccines".

I'll be short here...

Center for Disease Control Sates :

"From 2 to 4 months old, babies begin their primary course of vaccinations. This is also the peak age for sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). The timing of these two events has led some people to believe they might be related ( you decide ) However, studies have concluded that vaccinations are not a risk factor for SIDS."

Someone who can think for themselves and understand how CDC operates would conclude that studies financed by vaccine manufacturers concluded that vaccines produced by same manufacturers are not at risk factor. OK.

Do you start to see how it all works ?

[firenexx]

Benton, explain to me why a chickenpox/shingles vaccine is a good idea.

When I was a kid (this was only 20 years ago) and when my parents were kids, you got chicken pox oh say about kindergarten-age. Everyone did. That's the way it was. And guess what, if you went too long without getting it, mommy would hear that Krissy down the street just got chickenpox, and she would call Krissy's mom, and arrange a playdate. And you would get chickenpox. So when you are an adult, you wouldn't get shingles.

Sure, there are rare cases where people get chickenpox as a child, and still get shingles as an adult and need medication and/or hospitalization. There are also rare cases where vaccines kill or paralyze people, not to mention that mercury is used as a preservative and there are countless other health concerns. Chickenpox, really? This is a slippery slope down the road to "a vaccine for everything." Someday I bet they will have a vaccine to cure life, except it will be spread out over many doses of many different drugs.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by firenexx

Benton, explain to me why a chickenpox/shingles vaccine is a good idea.

When I was a kid (this was only 20 years ago) and when my parents were kids, you got chicken pox oh say about kindergarten-age. Everyone did. That's the way it was. And guess what, if you went too long without getting it, mommy would hear that Krissy down the street just got chickenpox, and she would call Krissy's mom, and arrange a playdate. And you would get chickenpox. So when you are an adult, you wouldn't get shingles.

Sure, there are rare cases where people get chickenpox as a child, and still get shingles as an adult and need medication and/or hospitalization. There are also rare cases where vaccines kill or paralyze people, not to mention that mercury is used as a preservative and there are countless other health concerns. Chickenpox, really? This is a slippery slope down the road to "a vaccine for everything." Someday I bet they will have a vaccine to cure life, except it will be spread out over many doses of many different drugs.

Parents wanted their kids to get chickenpox so they wouldn't get chickenpox as an adult, which can be very severe as an adult. People don't get shingles unless they've had chickenpox, as the virus usually remains in the body in a dormant stage. Shingles isn't catching, but the virus is . . . only it causes chickenpox, not shingles.

[momo3bur]

Now, obviously the flu shot has some "iffy" areas. I've also often wondered about the chicken pox/pneumonia vaccine.

HOWEVER, there ARE vaccines that have made a very positive impact on society. Mumps, measles, rubella? How many cases of infant death do you see anymore from these viruses. How did we get rid of them?

Polio? That was before our time so we forget, but it was almost completely eliminated with vaccines.

Tuberculosis? Surely we all have heard about how devastating that disease was for so many years. How did we finally kill it? We stopped the possibility of transmission with vaccinations.

There are also MANY that are very effective in dogs, cats, horses, etc., that I've seen work within a herd of horses with my own eyes. Seen them work between two puppies with my own eyes.

There are some that are beneficial and we'd be fools if we thought taking all of the vaccines away would be a good thing.

If not, we may as well get ready to start losing children measles and mumps. Tuberculosis is on the rise again, too, so those vaccines may be helpful and completely NEEDED in order to keep half the population from dying of TB.

All medical science is not negative. Sometimes I wonder how people forget that on a whole we live many, MANY years longer now. We're cleaner. We don't contract things like small pox (oh yeah, there is a vaccination for that, too) anymore in these first world countries. We can live through things that would have easily killed us before we had the benefit of modern medical science.

Sure some are out to jip you. That is a given. But if it keeps my family from contracting something horrible like TB, then I don't mind paying the money when it may be needed.

[FreedomJoyAdventure]

make your own flu vaccine

No more vaccines of any kind for me, thank you.

[ZephyrusX]

No. I got it once and was warned that it may cause mild symptoms, but I'm like a dying swan people. Mild or not, those symptoms made me miserable. I don't really get the flu very often either, with or without the vaccine.

My mother does have lung disease though so I sometimes wonder whether I should get it for her sake. Its my understanding that the vaccines cover the major strains of influenza that are around this year, but not all, so I don't expect it to make me completely resilient. But I suppose that is something...

Seriously though... dying swan here... if only I could be guaranteed no 'suffering'

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by ZephyrusX

No. I got it once and was warned that it may cause mild symptoms, but I'm like a dying swan people. Mild or not, those symptoms made me miserable. I don't really get the flu very often either, with or without the vaccine.

My mother does have lung disease though so I sometimes wonder whether I should get it for her sake. Its my understanding that the vaccines cover the major strains of influenza that are around this year, but not all, so I don't expect it to make me completely resilient. But I suppose that is something...

Seriously though... dying swan here... if only I could be guaranteed no 'suffering'

As far as I remember hearing, I thought that they only cover ONE strain of flu. They just give you a different vaccine depending on what area of the country your in.

[Chill of Eons]

Originally Posted by Benton

And don't go into the flat-earth "ZOMG VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM" BS either, because that's just what it is.

This sounds like evidence of otherwise to me:
Documents emerge proving Dr Andrew Wakefield innocent; BMJ and Brian Deer caught misrepresenting the facts

[AlwaysBeMe]

Originally Posted by momo3bur

Polio? That was before our time so we forget, but it was almost completely eliminated with vaccines.

Google -- polio scam, or polio Aseptic Meningitis,

e.g. The Polio Scam

[stanmrak]

Originally Posted by Chill of Eons

This sounds like evidence of otherwise to me:
Documents emerge proving Dr Andrew Wakefield innocent; BMJ and Brian Deer caught misrepresenting the facts

Yeah, we've seen this kind of thing before. The vaccine industry does not want to debate the evidence so they smear anyone who questions their authority. I don't know if Dr. Wakefield is right or not, but I seriously doubt he's the "fraud" they make him out to be. The tactics being used against him raise some serious red flags for me.

Much of the credit that is given to vaccines for eradicating diseases, including polio, is actually more attributable to improved sanitation and refrigeration.

[SireneB]

Nope.

I work in a health clinic (although I do IT and work in a different building), but as health center staff we are required to have flu shots, Hep B immunizations, etc. I've been filling out the "opt out" paperwork for the entire 22 years I've been working there. In that 22 years, I've only gotten sick 3 times. My coworkers who do get the shots are out sick much more frequently.

[codenamesmiley]

OMG MOMO3!! I will not get a flu shot! I will never get a flu shot!

I did just take a 6 week series of vaccines to travel to Africa.
I had little to no side effects with most of them (2nd rabies kicked my a$$ for a day) and I am not sure what is in them or if any testing has been done with intuitive psychic or medium types, but my abilities/sensitivities cranked up a notch or six after I had them. Yes, my "sight" is more intense since.

I can not say whether or not vaccines are good or bad, there is plenty of research for either side of the agenda out there. All I can do is share my personal experience. (and I am not saying for sure that the vaccines were the catalyst for the more intense ability, maybe it is coincidence)

I do have very painful issues in my wrists as of lately tho that I didn't have before. can't say whether that is connected to the shots or my hours of typing at lightning speed here at the computer every day.

So what I am saying is that I have absolutely nothing conclusive to offer beyond "I will not" at the beginning, but if you have read this far you may realize that I totally feel as if I am contributing here.

Happy flu season everybody. Good luck!
Rebecca

[momo3bur]

Originally Posted by codenamesmiley

OMG MOMO3!! I will not get a flu shot! I will never get a flu shot!

I did just take a 6 week series of vaccines to travel to Africa.
I had little to no side effects with most of them (2nd rabies kicked my a$$ for a day) and I am not sure what is in them or if any testing has been done with intuitive psychic or medium types, but my abilities/sensitivities cranked up a notch or six after I had them. Yes, my "sight" is more intense since.

I can not say whether or not vaccines are good or bad, there is plenty of research for either side of the agenda out there. All I can do is share my personal experience. (and I am not saying for sure that the vaccines were the catalyst for the more intense ability, maybe it is coincidence)

I do have very painful issues in my wrists as of lately tho that I didn't have before. can't say whether that is connected to the shots or my hours of typing at lightning speed here at the computer every day.

So what I am saying is that I have absolutely nothing conclusive to offer beyond "I will not" at the beginning, but if you have read this far you may realize that I totally feel as if I am contributing here.

Happy flu season everybody. Good luck!
Rebecca

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

ROTFLMFAO...yes I done went and used ALLL them letters (that's how Waxy would quote me, anyway).

Posts like this one are why I love you soooooo much!

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by firenexx

When I was a kid (this was only 20 years ago) and when my parents were kids, you got chicken pox oh say about kindergarten-age. Everyone did.

I didn't. And I was a kid in the seventies.

What happened was, I went until the age of nearly 47 before I got chicken pox. In fact, my husband (then age 37) also got it, one of his brothers (age 39) got it, and both our kids did, as well. I had it the worst, and although I had it months ago, I'm still experiencing complications from it. Kids missed 3 weeks from school, husband missed about two weeks of work (but fortunately has paid sick leave).

For what it's worth, my husband's younger brother had chicken pox as a child, but apparently neither my husband nor his elder brother got it, because both of them caught it from my daughter, as did I.

Now, I'm not saying "everyone should get a chicken pox vaccine", but, honestly, if I'd known how serious the illness can be for an adult (and most deaths attributed to chicken pox are in adults) and how long the complications can last, I would have gotten myself vaccinated (and my husband, had we known he wasn't naturally immune already).

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Parents wanted their kids to get chickenpox so they wouldn't get chickenpox as an adult, which can be very severe as an adult.

Yes. My kids got through it more or less okay (the youngest was barely fussed by it, other than a slight fever for a day and, of course, the itching), but my experience of the virus was quite the opposite.

Originally Posted by moonrambler

People don't get shingles unless they've had chickenpox, as the virus usually remains in the body in a dormant stage.

Yeah, it's a retrovirus. IIRC, it hides in nerve tissue, but when/if it erupts again, it does so from the nerves, which causes deep, painful itching that can't be scratched (because it's below the skin surface), and possible greater complications.

People regard it as mild (I certainly did!) and as diseases go, it's not the worst I've seen, but getting it as an adult utterly SUCKS, and has potentially fatal complications (it's not particularly fatal, but it can be in some cases).

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by SireneB

Nope.

I work in a health clinic (although I do IT and work in a different building), but as health center staff we are required to have flu shots, Hep B immunizations, etc. I've been filling out the "opt out" paperwork for the entire 22 years I've been working there. In that 22 years, I've only gotten sick 3 times. My coworkers who do get the shots are out sick much more frequently.

Yep, the people I work with in the clinic are the same. Most will opt out for free vaccinations. I never took the flu vaccine, and never will, but the rubella and Hep B I allowed them to give me.

I liked what you said momo. We can't just turn our backs on all science because of certain dodginess that goes on. Without some vaccines, many children would never have made it past their 5 birthdays.

I had a terrible time with the chicken pox when I was 17, and if I'd known about a vaccine I'd probably have taken it...and it would have saved me a WORLD of pain which led on from that bout of pox.

[ChrisGinsburg]

No, I will not be getting the flu vaccine. Yes, I've had other vaccines for more serious diseases in the past. Some were mandatory for various things. I've witnessed people getting flu vaccines still getting sick for years. Combine that with my irrational problem with needles and I don't even need to hear about weird ingredients to persuade me not to get one.

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by momo3bur

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

ROTFLMFAO...yes I done went and used ALLL them letters (that's how Waxy would quote me, anyway).

Posts like this one are why I love you soooooo much!

I love you soooooo much, too.

You know me, happy to help.

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Yep, the people I work with in the clinic are the same. Most will opt out for free vaccinations. I never took the flu vaccine, and never will, but the rubella and Hep B I allowed them to give me.

I liked what you said momo. We can't just turn our backs on all science because of certain dodginess that goes on. Without some vaccines, many children would never have made it past their 5 birthdays.

I had a terrible time with the chicken pox when I was 17, and if I'd known about a vaccine I'd probably have taken it...and it would have saved me a WORLD of pain which led on from that bout of pox.

I was 15. HORRIBLE . Didn't even understand that it was chicken pox for awhile. Started with sweats, chills, and vomiting. Considering that was pretty much the first time I've ever thrown up, it really threw me off. Lasted for almost a month. The itching THE ITCHING!! OMG!! I had them everywhere. Even places that sholdn't be mentioned on here. Just not right, not right at all lol. I wish my parents knew more people, so that we could have had a chicken pox party.